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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2024, 01:14:27 PM »
My question is, if I can not see who exchanged karma between each others then how would I know there was an abuse. I am sure I am missing something.

If you have some systematic -karma, if your get too much -karma and there's no good reasons for that, it can be an abuse and you can ask admin to check.

If some user gets too much karma too fast with mostly low quality posts, it also can be an abuse. admin can check.

Once caught, the abuser will get different unpleasant penalties, better not to abuse karma system. :)
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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2024, 02:11:09 PM »
My question is, if I can not see who exchanged karma between each others then how would I know there was an abuse. I am sure I am missing something.

If you have some systematic -karma, if your get too much -karma and there's no good reasons for that, it can be an abuse and you can ask admin to check.

If some user gets too much karma too fast with mostly low quality posts, it also can be an abuse. admin can check.

Once caught, the abuser will get different unpleasant penalties, better not to abuse karma system. :)
Sorry to say, but I personally think the karma system is too centralized, and I want to think or believe that we have more than one person behind the admin account, for if actually it's just one person, I am definitely not wishing the admin any evil, but my people have this saying that "when we prepare for good, we should also prepare for the worst just incase", so, in this regard, I wanna ask, what if anything, good or bad happens that made the admin not to come online or have access to internet for some time, maybe 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, or even a year, does it mean the forum operations will be automatically halted?
Like for example, family traval and vacations, business trips, an accident, health issues, retirement (well, should not include retirement since this can be prepared for, and admin can hand over the forum management to another worthy candidate), but what about other possible emergencies I mentioned, and some other possible ones I forgot to?
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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2024, 04:16:59 PM »
Sorry to say, but I personally think the karma system is too centralized, and I want to think or believe that we have more than one person behind the admin account, for if actually it's just one person, I am definitely not wishing the admin any evil, but my people have this saying that "when we prepare for good, we should also prepare for the worst just incase", so, in this regard, I wanna ask, what if anything, good or bad happens that made the admin not to come online or have access to internet for some time, maybe 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, or even a year, does it mean the forum operations will be automatically halted?
Like for example, family traval and vacations, business trips, an accident, health issues, retirement (well, should not include retirement since this can be prepared for, and admin can hand over the forum management to another worthy candidate), but what about other possible emergencies I mentioned, and some other possible ones I forgot to?

The karma system is not centralized, since as I assume you know, any user from Sr. Member onwards can use it, there are 1,260 registered users on this forum who meet the requirements I mentioned, so I think the karma system is quite decentralized. I honestly don't know what makes you think otherwise.

I think that among all the possibilities that you have mentioned, you have forgotten about the meteorite that destroys humanity and that could reach Earth at any moment, or about a possible war between machines and humans, or... What Internet failure can last a year?. Don't you think you're taking things to extremes that don't make any sense?. Relax a little.
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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2024, 09:27:10 PM »
Sorry to say, but I personally think the karma system is too centralized, and I want to think or believe that we have more than one person behind the admin account, for if actually it's just one person, I am definitely not wishing the admin any evil, but my people have this saying that "when we prepare for good, we should also prepare for the worst just incase", so, in this regard, I wanna ask, what if anything, good or bad happens that made the admin not to come online or have access to internet for some time, maybe 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, or even a year, does it mean the forum operations will be automatically halted?
Like for example, family traval and vacations, business trips, an accident, health issues, retirement (well, should not include retirement since this can be prepared for, and admin can hand over the forum management to another worthy candidate), but what about other possible emergencies I mentioned, and some other possible ones I forgot to?

The karma system is not centralized, since as I assume you know, any user from Sr. Member onwards can use it, there are 1,260 registered users on this forum who meet the requirements I mentioned, so I think the karma system is quite decentralized. I honestly don't know what makes you think otherwise.

I think that among all the possibilities that you have mentioned, you have forgotten about the meteorite that destroys humanity and that could reach Earth at any moment, or about a possible war between machines and humans, or... What Internet failure can last a year?. Don't you think you're taking things to extremes that don't make any sense?. Relax a little.
I think in my own understanding why Fivestar4everMVP is saying that the Karma system is centralized is because it is only few people know what is going on in the karma system and the karma system is not transparent. And karma becomes a hide and seek game in the forum. Fivestar4everMVP one thing you have to know domain, if every is set and the storage is bit enough to accommodate enough data then the system can run for a very long time and you can only check the server when the due date to pay or renew the server has come. And another thing is that nobody runs this kind of big project and run it alone. Therefore if emergency comes to the admin, he would inform one of his staff that can check the place very well for the admin. And that is why it a working term.

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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2024, 02:20:44 PM »
Sorry to say, but I personally think the karma system is too centralized, and I want to think or believe that we have more than one person behind the admin account, for if actually it's just one person, I am definitely not wishing the admin any evil, but my people have this saying that "when we prepare for good, we should also prepare for the worst just incase", so, in this regard, I wanna ask, what if anything, good or bad happens that made the admin not to come online or have access to internet for some time, maybe 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, or even a year, does it mean the forum operations will be automatically halted?
Like for example, family traval and vacations, business trips, an accident, health issues, retirement (well, should not include retirement since this can be prepared for, and admin can hand over the forum management to another worthy candidate), but what about other possible emergencies I mentioned, and some other possible ones I forgot to?

Trust me, there is always a backup I am confident that two or three members have access to the domain, and if the present admin is unable to continue with the project, someone else will. the is a forum with a lot of secrets, ( Ranking requirements is hidden too) and things like these are kept private for security reasons.

Months of internet blackout? Come on, the admin doesn't live under a rock  ;D(even someone under a rock can still access the Internet nowadays).

The karma system here is identical to that of Reddit; you can't identify who + or - you, and it works nicely except for the tremendous abuse, which is uncontrollable on Reddit and has been going on for a long time. Several bot accounts are created with the intention of exploiting the karma system and other shits.
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Re: What Happened to this user's Karma?
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2024, 08:32:24 PM »
I think in my own understanding why Fivestar4everMVP is saying that the Karma system is centralized is because it is only few people know what is going on in the karma system and the karma system is not transparent. And karma becomes a hide and seek game in the forum. Fivestar4everMVP one thing you have to know domain, if every is set and the storage is bit enough to accommodate enough data then the system can run for a very long time and you can only check the server when the due date to pay or renew the server has come. And another thing is that nobody runs this kind of big project and run it alone. Therefore if emergency comes to the admin, he would inform one of his staff that can check the place very well for the admin. And that is why it a working term.

You might be right, it's a different way to interpret that post. In any case, the karma system will remain the same as it has been until now, because otherwise, if all information were public, instead of a forum it would become a circus. I know some users are curious or even afraid (something I'll never understand) about karma, but just as the admin is open to new proposals to make the forum more user-friendly, users need to understand that there are things that are best left unchanged.
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