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Title: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: sirty143 on April 16, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
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In an online bout on Twitter, Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin and a Bitcoin developer Zack Voel exchanged their arguments for whether Bitcoin’s goal “was, is, and will be” digital gold... See more for yourself here (https://zycrypto.com/bitcoins-original-aim-wasnt-to-be-a-digital-gold-says-ethereum-founder/).

Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Noverteno on April 17, 2020, 06:06:55 AM
I do not think that bitcoin can be called digital gold and that it was created as digital gold. Bitcoin, like other decentralized cryptocurrencies, has very high price volatility. Digital gold cannot rise or fall sharply in value. The concept of "digital gold", in my opinion, should always be associated with constant value. Bitcoin's price swings from six thousand dollars to twenty thousand dollars and back do not allow us to talk about it as a digital gold.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: sirty143 on April 17, 2020, 06:54:50 AM
I do not think that bitcoin can be called digital gold and that it was created as digital gold. Bitcoin, like other decentralized cryptocurrencies, has very high price volatility. Digital gold cannot rise or fall sharply in value. The concept of "digital gold", in my opinion, should always be associated with constant value. Bitcoin's price swings from six thousand dollars to twenty thousand dollars and back do not allow us to talk about it as a digital gold.

Yes, I believe you. That's what I think too. However, in this article (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-as-digital-gold) by Peter Chawaga, a senior editor at Bitcoin Magazine, and was published on November 7, 2019, there were three interpretations of “bitcoin as digital gold”.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: fulled on April 17, 2020, 10:04:02 AM
It doesn't matter what was bitcoin purpose, the things that matter is how bitcoin can be digital money or digital gold, or even both in future, and how bitcoin can still be a decentralized tech, not centralized, bitcoin is wasting their time if in future bitcoin itself will be a centralized tech
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: I-Bit on April 17, 2020, 04:51:41 PM
Yes, Satoshi created Bitcoin for electronic cash, not for digital gold. Vitalik exaggerates about Bitcoin, I think we don't need to call it as gold. Bitcoin is purely digital asset or digital payment tool. We can compare it with gold as they are different.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: zendicator on April 18, 2020, 04:35:49 PM
i beg to disagree. Although the main reason why bitcoin is created because of digital payment( decentralized) as time goes by we can see the value of bitcoin is rising that is why nowadays we consider it as a digital gold or as a store of value because it has a very limited supply.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Lanirex on April 18, 2020, 06:01:51 PM
The first time I knew Bitcoin, the definition of Bitcoin is Digital Gold, that's what my friends say. And I believe that, because Bitcoin and Gold have in common that is Gold and Bitcoin are both in the hunt for people to invest. 
The difference is the value of Gold and Bitcoin is quite different, Bitcoin fluctuates while Gold does not. That is why many people get rich quick when investing in Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Senin on July 16, 2020, 08:01:37 PM
i beg to disagree. Although the main reason why bitcoin is created because of digital payment( decentralized) as time goes by we can see the value of bitcoin is rising that is why nowadays we consider it as a digital gold or as a store of value because it has a very limited supply.
Digital gold, or a store of value, must be distinguished above all by a stable price. Bitcoin not only does not differ in such quality, it is a direct opposite to it. Bitcoin has a very high price volatility and therefore, in practice, it is very difficult to use it even as a means of payment. Therefore, it cannot be considered either digital gold or store of value.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: comer on July 16, 2020, 09:06:37 PM
BTC was called digital gold, I can only think of two main reason.
1. Popularity
2. Value
Just like gold it is very well known of all crytocurrency today. Many people uses Bitcoin and their are many transaction of BTC in the blockchain. Further BTC has a good value today that is why it is called also as gold in the crypto space.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Astra on August 10, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
The term "digital gold" in relation to bitcoin originated mainly because of its high price. However, the high price volatility of bitcoin does not qualify it to be called digital gold.
Of course, bitcoin was created primarily as a means of payment that will exist as an alternative to the current financial system due to its fundamental novelty. Bitcoin as a whole is not yet fulfilling its main task.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Quantum X on August 11, 2020, 04:09:40 PM
Now I find the right term for bitcoin and I think it's the accurate term to use. But sad to say if bitcoin has no aim to be the digital gold then there's still a chance for others to seize that position.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Alcor on December 18, 2021, 03:27:38 PM
I don’t think it would be correct to compare any cryptocurrency with digital gold. Bitcoin came to be called that because of its high price. But gold is not only characterized by a relatively high price. First of all, it is a stable value, and bitcoin with its high price volatility is not comparable to gold. Gold also has excellent physical characteristics and practical application in the production and everyday life of a person, and bitcoin is devoid of all this.
In fact, other than the high price tag, Bitcoin not only has nothing to do with gold, but is the complete opposite of gold.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 18, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
Actually, Bitcoin has been tag Digital gold, or has been compared to Gold, is no a strenge news or statement around the world, this is because of the nature of Bitcoin and it's short term performance since invented. Bitcoin has being refered as digital Gold because, though has no physical state, but has been seen as a hedge against inflation. I think Bitcoin has proven to generate much more profit than gold within the short term it was launched. However, I believe Gold and Bitcoin are two different technology, but its comparison is just to appreciate the profit earned in short term than Gold returns. This is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: mlawson71 on December 20, 2021, 04:21:31 PM
I have never subscribed to that "digital gold" idea when it comes to Bitcoin and cryptos in general. A currency that volatile cannot be a storer of value, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: KaliLinux on December 21, 2021, 01:38:05 PM
Yes, Satoshi created Bitcoin for electronic cash, not for digital gold. Vitalik exaggerates about Bitcoin, I think we don't need to call it as gold. Bitcoin is purely digital asset or digital payment tool. We can compare it with gold as they are different.

I would believe that it was a figure of speech from Vitalik even though I have not seen this conversation between both parties however, we do know that Bitcoin and Gold are two different entities even though they are also always been compared in terms of Profit generation from investment. 
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Bliznec on December 21, 2021, 05:22:33 PM
Actually, Bitcoin has been tag Digital gold, or has been compared to Gold, is no a strenge news or statement around the world, this is because of the nature of Bitcoin and it's short term performance since invented. Bitcoin has being refered as digital Gold because, though has no physical state, but has been seen as a hedge against inflation. I think Bitcoin has proven to generate much more profit than gold within the short term it was launched. However, I believe Gold and Bitcoin are two different technology, but its comparison is just to appreciate the profit earned in short term than Gold returns. This is just my opinion.
Finland has published a research paper titled The Great Cryptocurrency Illusion. This happened in 2018. At that time, some countries followed in the footsteps of reading this document. I think bitcoin should not undergo any checks by the local authorities of the countries. Bitcoin is decentralization. Due to the high transaction costs, Buterin believes that Bitcoin will soon become digital gold. 
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Alcor on December 21, 2021, 06:48:48 PM
i beg to disagree. Although the main reason why bitcoin is created because of digital payment( decentralized) as time goes by we can see the value of bitcoin is rising that is why nowadays we consider it as a digital gold or as a store of value because it has a very limited supply.
The fact that the price of bitcoin is still continuing to rise hardly suggests that it has already become digital gold. The price of a highly volatile cryptocurrency is highly volatile. In almost all other respects, these are completely dissimilar financial assets.
Of course, Satoshi Nakamoto, creating bitcoin, the last thing he thought about its high price. He created a new means of payment that would be an alternative to the current financial payment system. Therefore, Buterin is also right in this case.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Fenix on February 17, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
Of course, Bitcoin was created with the main goal - to be an alternative means of payment to the existing payment system of states. He has not completed this task yet. However, thanks to its large price rise, it has attracted the attention of people and states to cryptocurrency. People began to use it more as a means of accumulating value, although it, like all cryptocurrencies, has a very large price volatility. While the phase of the general price growth of bitcoin is underway, it will be used in this capacity. Contrary to popular belief, I think that this period will also end. Therefore, bitcoin expects further transformation in its use.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: damsix on February 18, 2022, 07:11:54 AM
The purpose of creating Bitcoin is for the development of payments that are very difficult to be separated from third parties such as banks or other financial institutions.
Bitcoin was created without any intermediaries for every transaction, thus making Bitcoin more into our own main asset without any intervention from third parties.
Maybe this is a piece of the story about Bitcoin that I know and there are definitely more meanings to the first creation of Bitcoin from various smart people.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: jonathancool220 on February 19, 2022, 11:51:46 AM
This is also my thoughts about Bitcoin which are not the same as the thoughts of other members on this forum.
Vitalik Butterin understands very well how Bitcoin works and it is only right that Bitcoin when it was first created was not for Digital Gold.
Maybe there are many factors if Bitcoin is Digital Gold as well as in prices that change all the time and this really really gives something so perfect for a Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 23, 2022, 08:18:22 PM
The purpose of creating Bitcoin is for the development of payments that are very difficult to be separated from third parties such as banks or other financial institutions.
Bitcoin was created without any intermediaries for every transaction, thus making Bitcoin more into our own main asset without any intervention from third parties.
Maybe this is a piece of the story about Bitcoin that I know and there are definitely more meanings to the first creation of Bitcoin from various smart people.

I think the same as you, for me BTC is synonymous with decentralization and managing our own money without the need for other organizations such as banks and governments to tell us when and how much money we can extract, this is not financial freedom, I consider this as a corralito of the traditional economy where the debt reigns, and that is where the interest of the governments comes to want to have a share of btc and the market.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: masudginanjar on February 24, 2022, 01:51:01 PM
Bitcoin when it was first created was created for simpler and faster transactions in terms of asset acceptance and I believe Bitcoin will become something valuable again in the future as a digital asset.
Bitcoin has undergone a lot of significant changes in terms of the community, but the system of Bitcoin since it was first created is still the same as before, so we don't need to be complicated for Bitcoin because only by being a holder, we are already profitable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: TopT3ns on February 25, 2022, 03:49:07 PM
I don't think that will happen because the types of the two are very different, gold has a physical form that has a high selling value and bitcoin has a digital form whose selling value is very risky because the price movement is very volatile.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Astra on April 23, 2022, 08:59:31 AM
Of course, bitcoin was not created as "digital gold", that is, for its main function as a store of value. This happened later, when many saw that bitcoin was growing in price for a long time. There is no doubt that bitcoin was created as an alternative means of payment outside the existing financial system of the state, and in this regard, Buterin is right. The main task of bitcoin, unfortunately, has not yet been fulfilled.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: wilkine on June 06, 2022, 10:50:47 AM
I think it's better than gold from the long-term point
no matter what its original aim is
It has been evolving after all
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: Senin on June 08, 2022, 08:04:08 AM
I think it's better than gold from the long-term point
no matter what its original aim is
It has been evolving after all
Precisely because bitcoin, in connection with the expectation of its further price growth, has become much less used as a means of payment, and more and more as a means of storing value, its use is gradually coming to a standstill. The growth in the price of bitcoin cannot last too long, and the suspension of its price growth as a whole threatens with great trouble not only for bitcoin, but for the entire cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin is not really fulfilling its original purpose as a means of payment right now. Let's hope that the situation in this regard can still change for the better.
Title: Re: Bitcoin’s original aim wasn’t to be a “digital gold”, says Ethereum founder
Post by: mahadev on June 10, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
Yes, Satoshi created Bitcoin for electronic cash, not for digital gold. Vitalik exaggerates about Bitcoin, I think we don't need to call it as gold. Bitcoin is purely digital asset or digital payment tool. We can compare it with gold as they are different.

I think I'm agree, bitcoin is digital asset, not digital gold.
But maybe several people said bitcoin is digital gold that will replace gold at the future.
Every one have own opinion, that's normal at crypto world.