What about teleported members from BTT with a bad reputation?

[Jokers]

I think that the best option is to manually tag any tele account who has real negative trust on BTT, but this requires that dealing with it case by case, so creating a topic such as Report people with negative trust on bitcointalk would be good to take each case individually.

And who will do all that work to check if the tag is really bad or not? It requires redoing nearly the same job as the one who left that tag did.

If you see that someone is doing here the same bad things as on BTT, just inform moderators about that.

[yahoo62278]

I'm not making it a point to check every member who might apply in a campaign to see their rep on the other forum. There are some members who will stick out from the other place and those I will ignore or pass over if I run a campaign, but for the most part I think as long as they didn't scam, it shouldn't be an issue.

[notblox1]

I'm not making it a point to check every member who might apply in a campaign to see their rep on the other forum. There are some members who will stick out from the other place and those I will ignore or pass over if I run a campaign, but for the most part I think as long as they didn't scam, it shouldn't be an issue.

Anyone can scam, not just teleported members, but higher chances for that is with red tagged accounts that have shady history in bitcointalk forum.
I think admins are doing all teleportations manually anyway, so they can notice right away who is high risk member.
For safety reasons I would not trade here unless with escrow from trusted members.

[jonathancool220]

For safety reasons I would not trade here unless with escrow from trusted members.

As long as I pay attention to all the members on the alcoinstalks forum, there are no members who have the "Trusted for Escrow" badge.
I have looked at the profiles of the President, Vice President, Senator, Decentralized Team or Moderator and I have not seen them wearing the "Trusted for Escrow" badge.
I mean, in this altcoinstalsk forum, no one has ever traded between members or traded directly with members, or maybe I haven't seen this from all altcoinstals members. So , for bad and good reputations "in the trade" I have never seen it, except for Spammers and Plagiarism, there are many members.

[Jokers]

there are no members who have the "Trusted for Escrow" badge

As far as I know, there's no such badge at the moment.

I mean, in this altcoinstalsk forum, no one has ever traded between members or traded directly with members, or maybe I haven't seen this from all altcoinstals members.

Of course there were different deals between forum users, but how do you expect to find information about that if most deals are made via PM or so?

[BitMaxz]

Anyone can scam, not just teleported members, but higher chances for that is with red tagged accounts that have shady history in bitcointalk forum.
I think admins are doing all teleportations manually anyway, so they can notice right away who is high risk member.
For safety reasons I would not trade here unless with escrow from trusted members.

I don't think the admin checks the reputation manually if he is not one of the BTT members and you are just a visitor to the BTT forum you can able to see the trust button on any profile unless admin also have an account on the BTT forum.

I think it would be better if someone found scammers from other forums those who notice it should be able to give negative karma to that account here on this forum.
High amount of negative karma makes the account looks suspicious and can not be trusted.

[Jokers]

I think it would be better if someone found scammers from other forums those who notice it should be able to give negative karma to that account here on this forum.
High amount of negative karma makes the account looks suspicious and can not be trusted.

Negative tag on the other forum is not an appropriate reason for giving -karma. If you see that someone with a doubtful reputation in some other place is going to start some business here you can share info about his reputation. But we don't know what was the real reason for a negative tag somewhere, so it's a bad idea to give -karma just for some outer reasons.

[Faisal2202]

This question came to my mind when I saw John Abraham applying for a signature campaign on this forum. On BTT he has 4 negative feedbacks but here they are not shown. It occurred to me if this is not going to become a safe haven for BTT people with a bad reputation.

Surely the managers of signature campaigns, as they are in both forums, will take feedback into account, but in the long run I don't know.

You have raised an excellent point, I did not realize this until now I had no need but for campaign managers, it would be a big deal, they might be checking all members manually. I mean till now I don't know what procedures these managers follow to select a participant, but I guess if they are selecting a participant on the basis of this forum (ALTT) activities. Then they should check one more thing at the end, and that is the reputation of that member on BTT if that matters to the managers.

But it will double the time, like after checking the member's reput here on ALTT and selecting him/her and then rejecting him/her on the basis of the last check, which would cause them a huge loss of time. But that's really their problem and they might have come up with some solution as well.

But I don't think the admin of this forum is going to give negative karma on the basis of BTT forum.

[ZAINmalik75]

Feedbacks on users' profile on bitcointalk are mostly personal opinions, feedback or experience, i don't think it is fair to panish someone  here for something he did somewhere else..
Let people build their reputation here. if they do bad thing like they did in BTT then they can be elevated accordingly.
also trust sytem works differently in both forums. so it would be hard for admins to how much minus karma they should give for an account with negatvie feedback.

I agree with you, everyone deserves a second chance, but I don't think this is something hidden from managers, they have a set of rules to follow and they must have taken this factor into consideration and already have a solution as well. Besides the solution, they should create a list of teleported accounts and should create their own database of members, which will help them a lot.

They can also check for any positive or negative trusts directly from bpip by typing the username, but I don't think they really care about members' trust on this forum. As you already said, they might get picked up here but OP is also right, if this forum becomes a safe haven for bad actors then the rate of crime on BTT will increase, as well on alltt also.

[yahoo62278]

Feedbacks on users' profile on bitcointalk are mostly personal opinions, feedback or experience, i don't think it is fair to panish someone  here for something he did somewhere else..
Let people build their reputation here. if they do bad thing like they did in BTT then they can be elevated accordingly.
also trust sytem works differently in both forums. so it would be hard for admins to how much minus karma they should give for an account with negatvie feedback.

I agree with you, everyone deserves a second chance, but I don't think this is something hidden from managers, they have a set of rules to follow and they must have taken this factor into consideration and already have a solution as well. Besides the solution, they should create a list of teleported accounts and should create their own database of members, which will help them a lot.

They can also check for any positive or negative trusts directly from bpip by typing the username, but I don't think they really care about members' trust on this forum. As you already said, they might get picked up here but OP is also right, if this forum becomes a safe haven for bad actors then the rate of crime on BTT will increase, as well on alltt also.

Everyone does not deserve a second chance honestly man. If you stole let's say $10000 and are a well known scamming POS on bitcointalk, your reputation should follow you. You're actually not too smart if you teleport here and are a big red tagged scammer from elsewhere and likely will just be looking to scam here.

I'd just take precautions if trading here and find an escrow.

[notblox1]

As long as I pay attention to all the members on the alcoinstalks forum, there are no members who have the "Trusted for Escrow" badge.
I have looked at the profiles of the President, Vice President, Senator, Decentralized Team or Moderator and I have not seen them wearing the "Trusted for Escrow" badge.

Trusted members for me are some of the guys I know from bitcointalk forum that teleported here, and maybe admin.
In case this forum needs escrow services they could easily create one, but this is discussion for some different topic.
Reputation is important in some cases, but not always.

[jonathancool220]

there are no members who have the "Trusted for Escrow" badge

As far as I know, there's no such badge at the moment.

Can we apply to the admin for this "Trusted for Escrow" Badge?
This will make it easier for altcoinstalks members if they want to trade with other members and this can be a good and reliable reference.
This is only my opininon because in altcoinstalks every "Badge" has its own meaning.
Because every member with good reputations is always needed for trading , handle project, etc.

I mean, in this altcoinstalsk forum, no one has ever traded between members or traded directly with members, or maybe I haven't seen this from all altcoinstals members.

Of course there were different deals between forum users, but how do you expect to find information about that if most deals are made via PM or so?

Escrow is the meaning Third party , right ?
If every trade via PM and make deal trader member A and member B is the meaning "P2P" , and that's no need for "Escrow" or member C for trading  member A and member B,  this is only my mind and if i'm wrong , im sorry .

[bayu7adi]

If he has a bad reputation in an old forum, he "should" also have a bad reputation in the altcointalks forum because logically his actions will also be done on altcointalks.

Not mandatory. Reputation in the Trust system of BTT is a matter of evaluation of something by some people chosen with some procedure. It works there, but it is not perfect. There are enough doubtful tags, so automated translation of negative tags could be a mistake. I think each case should be considered by itself.

I know there is no reputation or flag here, but at least you also have to give a sign of potential danger to some accounts that teleport. If on the btt forum he is quite dangerous, it could be that here he has the potential to carry out other dangerous actions.

I'm sure, no one agrees to be a victim of digital crime here, therefore, if there are no red or negative flags then applied in altcoin talk, at least there is a special badge for members with a bad reputation when teleporting. That's just my suggestion.

I am not comparing features between forums, but only intend to prevent unwanted bad things from happening here.

[Jokers]

Can we apply to the admin for this "Trusted for Escrow" Badge?

You can ask him directly.

Of course there were different deals between forum users, but how do you expect to find information about that if most deals are made via PM or so?

Escrow is the meaning Third party , right ?
If every trade via PM and make deal trader member A and member B is the meaning "P2P" , and that's no need for "Escrow" or member C for trading  member A and member B,  this is only my mind and if i'm wrong , im sorry .

I didn't follow this too closely so I know just few cases when there were deals between forum users, all cases I remember were without an escrow. But it doesn't mean an escrow was never used. There is even the forum escrow service, so probably there were some deals... or not.

I know there is no reputation or flag here, but at least you also have to give a sign of potential danger to some accounts that teleport. If on the btt forum he is quite dangerous, it could be that here he has the potential to carry out other dangerous actions.

I'm sure, no one agrees to be a victim of digital crime here, therefore, if there are no red or negative flags then applied in altcoin talk, at least there is a special badge for members with a bad reputation when teleporting. That's just my suggestion.

I am not comparing features between forums, but only intend to prevent unwanted bad things from happening here.

What you suggest is to trust blindly some third party. If all tags on BTT were 100% reliable, it could be reasonable, but we all know that there is a bunch of tags based on political disagreement, some strange tags like "I don't know this guy, but he left me a negative tag, so I'm doing the same", many tags with insults without any references, etc. It doesn't look reasonable to take all that mess of good and bad tags and blindly take here, but I don't see anyone who is ready to make a work on rechecking the facts behind those tags to take here reliable ones only.

If you have an exact case of some teleported scammer, which can be proved, please share your info.