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Further Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: bettyhill on October 31, 2018, 04:21:25 PM
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Nowadays, a lot of people no longer see the importance of attending or engaging in formal classroom education. Below are some of the reasons I've noticed or heard about
1. Most people feel formal education is no longer worth the time and stress as they more lucrative opportunities outside the four walls of the classroom.
2. Others believe that formal education don't teach one how to earn cool money, rather it teaches us to serve others.
3. Some see formal education as a waste of time that could be invested in things they term 'more important'
4. Recently, a lot of inspirational articles have openly discouraged formal education, thus influencing the mentality of many.
What's your opinion? Do you think the reasons for shunning formal education are valid? Or are they just lazy excuses to avoid stress?
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It is not overrated. IT is always needed but from the right hands. Because wrong people can direct you to wrong way, even worse, you can believe that the wrong way is actually true.
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I am interested! I was also assigned to write a paper on this topic... This helped: but I also added a lot from myself.
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Education is never overrated, but one needs to be careful what schools they pick and what topics they focus on.
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Yes, I agree, Everything changed in years, but the method of education still the same, we need to change that, schools are creating people to be machines.
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It depends on the country and it depends on the school, I think. But in general, I do agree that standartized test, for example, are not the best approach for all kids.
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Just like the previous commentator said, it all depends on your country of residence .
Having said that, I think formal education is overrated in my country.
You will see a graduate after spending so many years in the university,still roaming the streets for lack of job .
Those doing menial jobs seems to be doing well more than those who spent years in the class rooms.
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I think it also depends on your area of study in university. Some are more practical than others, it's important to pick something that you both enjoy and that has practical applications.
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Formal Education is commonly viewed as overrated especially when you came from third-world countries, poor families, and rural areas.
Although there exists some communities with no "formal" school to begin with (most tribal people really strive to cope with modern society and others are just wanna stay isolated.
Honestly, It depends on how one person views it.
Some would rather choose rather what they have considered more important than formal education.
Some may boast of it. and some views as some sort of privilege like nobility.
Welp, back on the Era of Knights, Bards, Hunters, Mages, Witches..
Education is also viewed this way. but on some sort of dilemma and unrefined
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On the other hand sometimes it's exactly people in such poor communities that fight tooth and nail for their children to get formal higher education because they view it as a way to have a better life in the future. It really depends on the people.
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No knowledge is a waste and as such we can never know it all, we all need knowledge about things we think we know and things we don't so as to build our self in a very unique way and manners.
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There are many ways to acquire knowledge, formal education is an important way, but ultimately it's just one option.
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Formal education serves well for one thing - your socialisation in early young life and maybe your lifetime friends or so. That's something you cannot get everywhere else really. It maybe not always will lead you to something that will require that skills, but I assume it's needed really. A must even;)
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Depending on one's school and degree one can learn more than socialization. But even socialization alone is a pretty important step into adulthood.
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I think the reasons are valid. It is true that formal education brings and teaches you nothing, we need to reform the educational system.
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There are many ways to acquire knowledge, formal education is an important way, but ultimately it's just one option.
Certainly, but I do feel that it requires good research skills in order to educate yourself. My partner is excellent at it... whereas i do better in a structured lesson plan and hands-on classroom style form of education.
It is obviously very dependant on the skill being learned and the individual.
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Education of a person is still very important for the overall formation of a person’s worldview. The ability to earn in this world is not the main thing in our life. We come to this world to enhance our spirituality, and this also comes largely from universal education.
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I think that expanding your horizons, learning more about yourself and about the world at large is never overrated.
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I think one can learn a lot of useful things through formal education.
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I'm a student in this school of thought and very sure that in no distant future, we will experience a revolution in this regard. Not saying formal education will be totally relegated but I see it undergoing much needed changes so as to raise its ultimate use in life
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Yes it is, Alot of people do the formal education and become idiots, don't think by ourselves and more, Schools are made to create machines for our system, and not to be creative and think outside the box.
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I think the reason is because in some place they don't value those that have the formal education because there's no physical things to show that they're really educated but for me formal education is not bad.
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Different places have different values, and unfortunately a lot of people aren't taught to value non-material things.
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I think it's really depends overall, if you do want to take degree in medicine in something like that we should really stop that totally and completely anyway. I hope we can really make it possible from many many matters. Law also, but it also takes some research.
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People can find fulfillment in many times of education, not just medicine and law, I think.
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We'd live in a boring world if that was the case. :D
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Formal education is important but the world is gradually changing to skills orientated such that some courses taught in the universities is becoming irrelevant and obsolete, there are a lot of programmers are self taught who have never been to the university besides crypto traders who makes huge profits most of them are acquire the skills themselves or with mentorship thus acquiring a formal education is just to read and write while you develop yourself with any relevant skill.
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Yes formal education is necessary. But people are not interested in getting this. It also depends upon univerties or schools.
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I do not believe that formal education could be overrated in any way. However its very true that many of the disciplines in which people struggle to acquire knowledge on has to a large extent became obsolete with no real world application of the knowledge. This thus cause some people to believe they just wasted their precious time on going to school. But on the other hand, what can one say about acquiring knowledge in engineering and medical line? Could knowledge in these fields be termed as obsolete?
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It all depends on a person in how to react. But I believe formal education is important because we can learn many things. But there is something more important, namely moral and moral education that we must instill in us and our children from an early age. Because someone without good morals and morals will easily fall into and be damaged.
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I think formal education is overrated in my country. It depends on how one person views it. Some would rather choose rather what they have considered more important than formal education You will see a graduate after spending so many years in the university, still roaming the streets for lack of job Education is commonly viewed as overrated especially when you came from third-world countries, poor families, and rural areas. Although there exists some communities
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it may varies from countries and culture. Others may think that formal education is not a priority but still part of a goal even the billionaires who are college dropouts are pursuing to finish a formal education later in their life like Mark Zuckerberg who finishes his education after he stabilized his company. What most important is that acquiring special skills and being extra ordinary in your field, need not require a formal education as long as you are successful in life and getting formal education is just a plus factor.
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I think formal education is a great thing to have. You don't just learn facts and work skills, you also meet new, different people, you learn to communicate, you learn how to research information and how to ask questions. Those are vital life skills to have, regardless of one's occupation.
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You are right I think that the main thing is that we study to earn. I also do not prefer a more formal education. We study to earn money in the future. But if you have any skill then you can earn money in your child age and that is too good then I think you have to give more importance to the online work, not the formal education.
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In the real world, expertise and skills are the most important thing. But in reality, the entrance still requires the legality of formal education. If both were owned by someone, it would be easier to achieve success.
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I think higher education's best quality is that it teaches critical thinking skills, which are indispensable if one is to be a well-rounded person.
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In my opinion formal higher education can be a great and useful thing, but I do sometimes feel like it is overrated in that so many parents pressure their kids to go to university even if they don't want to or aren't sure about what field they want to work in. Depending on a person's goals and the kind of work they want to do / are good at, a diploma is often not necessary, and some people only realize what they really want to study a little later in life.
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I think it is a prudent thing to figure out what your kid is actually good at and has an affinity too, rather than push them toward a degree that seems prestigious but something the kid enjoys.
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Playing to your child's strengths makes for happy, successful kids, I believe, and even happier, successful adults.
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I don't believe it's overrated. It is a right and a privilege for others especially for those who cannot afford to study. It's important in shaping people's lives and helps develop critical thinking.
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I reckon you need to define first, what exactly you mean by formal education, as many people will interpret many different things. A college degree? Highschool? A standard education compared to homeschooling/alternative school concepts? In my opinion, you don’t need a degree, but education is always invaluable and if you decide to take it into your own hands, you need to be very considerate as humans tend to focus on what they’re good at and what they deem important. This may lead to a lot of blind spots though.
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Nowadays, a lot of people no longer see the importance of attending or engaging in formal classroom education. Below are some of the reasons I've noticed or heard about
1. Most people feel formal education is no longer worth the time and stress as they more lucrative opportunities outside the four walls of the classroom.
2. Others believe that formal education don't teach one how to earn cool money, rather it teaches us to serve others.
3. Some see formal education as a waste of time that could be invested in things they term 'more important'
4. Recently, a lot of inspirational articles have openly discouraged formal education, thus influencing the mentality of many.
What's your opinion? Do you think the reasons for shunning formal education are valid? Or are they just lazy excuses to avoid stress?
Unfortunately, formal education does not teach you how to earn money or pay taxes
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Too many people who would have been happier in the trades go into debt for degrees with few job opportunities. We need to stop treating college like something you're incomplete without
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I’d say it depends. If you want to be a doctor, a formal education is a necessity. If you want to do art or even trade online, then you can learn that on your own and don’t need a degree.
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For me there are several options:
a) you want to extend a relatively carefree time since you have the opportunity to study and got some money
b) you want to get an education because you know exactly what you want to do
c) you understand that such an education will allow you to go up the standard social ladder and you want to learn how to live in a "standard" world.
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Hey there! Education is such a multifaceted journey, isn't it? I've been thinking about it a lot lately, especially with the option of boarding school coming up.
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I think formal education is overrated in my country. It depends on how one person views it. Some would rather choose rather what they have considered more important than formal education You will see a graduate after spending so many years in the university, still roaming the streets for lack of job Education is commonly viewed as overrated especially when you came from third-world countries, poor families, and rural areas. Although there exists some communities
I think In my own country it is the whole system that is messed up and thats why the educated ones are looking like the ones who have waisted their whole fixed years in the higher institution. They are some people who will go and read all the courses and even get a very good results at that but when you come out to the labour market to actually secure a Job, the system fucks you up and corner you or position you like someone who doesn't know what he is doing.
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I think In my own country it is the whole system that is messed up and thats why the educated ones are looking like the ones who have waisted their whole fixed years in the higher institution. They are some people who will go and read all the courses and even get a very good results at that but when you come out to the labour market to actually secure a Job, the system fucks you up and corner you or position you like someone who doesn't know what he is doing.
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Yes I agree with you on this one, some countries due to the rate of high level of corruption and and bad government which has result to poor economic system, and lack of job opportunities for the citizens, many people just look at formal education as a waste of time and resources.
I had a friend who was telling me that he wanted to leave the country for business and he was still in school then, I thought it was after he rand up his education before he would travel out m, but he told me that he would leave everything and travel out to look for the money first before he can continue his education, and he gave me reasons to believe that he was right.
Doe formal education is not bad, but in a country that has poor economic system and bad government, where many graduates are out doing manual labours to make earns, I think making money first is not a bad idea, but you have to acquire your degree as well.
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We are leaving in digital era. Now a days in our country being digital and our Educational system also being digital. After pandemic we saw and we introduced about online class. We saw primary School to University everywhere online class system. Every Student buy or manage smartphone and buying internet package for online Education.
I think it has some positive side. From very earlier a students being familiar with online and digital world. And they are introducing with different people from different countrys. And they knowing about different culture. So i think our education system being Smart day by day.
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I think formal education is overrated in my country. It depends on how one person views it. Some would rather choose rather what they have considered more important than formal education You will see a graduate after spending so many years in the university, still roaming the streets for lack of job Education is commonly viewed as overrated especially when you came from third-world countries, poor families, and rural areas. Although there exists some communities
I think In my own country it is the whole system that is messed up and thats why the educated ones are looking like the ones who have waisted their whole fixed years in the higher institution. They are some people who will go and read all the courses and even get a very good results at that but when you come out to the labour market to actually secure a Job, the system fucks you up and corner you or position you like someone who doesn't know what he is doing.
Former education in the past wasn't overrated because for someone to get a high paying job, the person must have a certain decree in formal education but in recent years a lot of skills that doesn't require much of formal education to get them are more financially beneficial than most of the jobs that formerly educated people can boast of and that's what significantly reduced the importance of formal education.
Despite the recent developments, some people still have the thought that to get formally educated is the best way to progress in their different life endeavors but will still have to run back to those who aren't highly educated for acquisition of skills and that's why people of today now think that formal education is overrated
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It really depends. Generally speaking, Formal education is not overrated at all. For example, the job market in Korea is pretty competitive. The whole thing is a rat race. You literally can't get a job if you're only with a high school degree. To work in a big corporation like Samsung, you normally need to graduate from the top 3 universities in Korea.
Similar situations happen in other Asian countries. A degree is actually an entry ticket for many companies.
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Still we need that useless degree to get job in most of the companies so for someone who is not having stable financial background has to go through the useless things for years to have basic financial security of their future.
But as I said it's useless since it doesn't reach any real world applications/solutions still we need that to get job means it's highly overrated...
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It really depends. Generally speaking, Formal education is not overrated at all. For example, the job market in Korea is pretty competitive. The whole thing is a rat race. You literally can't get a job if you're only with a high school degree. To work in a big corporation like Samsung, you normally need to graduate from the top 3 universities in Korea.
Similar situations happen in other Asian countries. A degree is actually an entry ticket for many companies.
Yeah in so many cultures, formal education is highly valued, most especially in civilized countries. A degree from a reputable university can give a person a sure ticket to companies and can also give a person more advantage in the job market than someone without a degree.
So saying formal education in this sense, is overrated is absolutely wrong.
The fact that the education system has failed in some countries doesn't mean it's like that in other countries, there are still places where the educational structures are still very functional and active.
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Formal education can never be overrated. Just because our government has failed its citizens to provide employment and an enabling environment for them to succeed in life, we will begin to find no need to have a formal education.
How to do think the upcoming generation will look like, if there is no formal education introduced to them? Will they be able to read and write and also have logical reasoning on how to make the world a better place for all? Like producing vaccines or drugs for human beings, being technologically inclined, being calculative, how to rule the country and her economy, and so on.
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Re: Formal education. Overrated?
It isn't overrated, and we all need it as much as possible. It's just that, we can't rely too much on our current education system in terms of knowledge.
What I mean is that, not that many schools in the world are teaching about money. Correct me on this one, but no school is teaching financial literacy to their students. This is why Robert Kiyosaki hate schools that much. They aren't teaching the students how to handle money.
On the other hand, they might not teach you financial literacy, but they are teaching you the fundamentals that will help you in the future. The traits, ethics, things to do when you're doing this one, and this one, etc. At the end of the day, we all need education in order for us to succeed. As for it being termed as overrated? It does not. It's just that, in order for one to be successful, you don't necessarily need to finish college.