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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2024, 02:29:09 PM »
I don't think it's hostility, more like caution. But I agree with you - bitcoin is already too integrated into the global economy to be stopped,
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2024, 05:38:41 PM »
I don't know what's new that made them repeat the old accusations, I mean these accusations are old and known to everyone but why are they repeating them at this time? A few days ago a research paper from the European Central Bank and now this ECB advisor.
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It's one and the same thing, but I don't understand why anyone reacts to such statements considering that the ECB mostly had negative opinions towards Bitcoin, especially after Christine Lagarde became president in 2019. To me, it is quite logical that people in such positions have exactly such opinions, as if the central bank of England or the American FED think differently.

The only difference is that in the US big capital can influence political decisions, while in the EU there are obviously no such big players lobbying for their interests.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2024, 06:00:29 PM »
It's one and the same thing, but I don't understand why anyone reacts to such statements considering that the ECB mostly had negative opinions towards Bitcoin, especially after Christine Lagarde became president in 2019. To me, it is quite logical that people in such positions have exactly such opinions, as if the central bank of England or the American FED think differently.

The only difference is that in the US big capital can influence political decisions, while in the EU there are obviously no such big players lobbying for their interests.
I've been following ECB reports on BTC since way back in 2012, if I recall correctly, and I'm all too familiar with their stance on this new asset class. The ECB has always been pretty conservative, wanting to protect the EUR at all costs since it's essentially the EU superpower. They couldn't stomach the EUR losing ground to inflation post-Covid, so they started firing shots at BTC, often with convoluted and biased arguments.

I do see a slight shift in their tone though, because at least they're not outright denying BTC potential anymore. They've even admitted that BTC could become so successful it might create societal imbalances, which is a pretty big concession ^^

The ECB opinions usually fly under the radar, but with BTC recent success and the hype around BTC Spot ETFs, any dissenting views are bound to cause a stir. I doubt the ECB can shake BTC fans faith, we're all used to dismissing their reports as easily as we'd dismiss a WSJ article while watching BTC hit $71K.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2024, 08:22:30 PM »
I've been following ECB reports on BTC since way back in 2012, if I recall correctly, and I'm all too familiar with their stance on this new asset class. The ECB has always been pretty conservative, wanting to protect the EUR at all costs since it's essentially the EU superpower. They couldn't stomach the EUR losing ground to inflation post-Covid, so they started firing shots at BTC, often with convoluted and biased arguments.

I do see a slight shift in their tone though, because at least they're not outright denying BTC potential anymore. They've even admitted that BTC could become so successful it might create societal imbalances, which is a pretty big concession ^^

The ECB opinions usually fly under the radar, but with BTC recent success and the hype around BTC Spot ETFs, any dissenting views are bound to cause a stir. I doubt the ECB can shake BTC fans faith, we're all used to dismissing their reports as easily as we'd dismiss a WSJ article while watching BTC hit $71K.
I don't think it can start any controveries now instead it will cause them more distrust and bad reputation people like you who have been following them since 2012 are aware from their every move and why they do it but like me who did not followed would also get the idea that they are convoluting us like BTC is a Bubble which can burst anytime I think I have been listening to this line since I got into crypto haha.

They must change their lines at least if they really want to cause a stir. What good will they get by doing it, though? BTC has outperformed all of our expectations and I think these ECB advisors are nothing but those same old dudes trying to save their jobs by lifting making these statements to make their boss happy lol.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2024, 04:40:15 PM »
~snip~
I do see a slight shift in their tone though, because at least they're not outright denying BTC potential anymore. They've even admitted that BTC could become so successful it might create societal imbalances, which is a pretty big concession ^^


Maybe it's because (allegedly) the son of the head of the ECB is investing in BTC? Joking aside, I think there is a lot of lobbying and interests that are intertwined and collide between EU member states, where some member states do not even want the euro as a common currency in their country.

The ECB opinions usually fly under the radar, but with BTC recent success and the hype around BTC Spot ETFs, any dissenting views are bound to cause a stir. I doubt the ECB can shake BTC fans faith, we're all used to dismissing their reports as easily as we'd dismiss a WSJ article while watching BTC hit $71K.

Maybe for you, who are far from the EU, such statements do not make much sense, but a lot of people take such things seriously in Europe. That's why there are such huge differences in everything that happens around cryptocurrencies in the EU compared to the US. I very rarely see anyone mention BTC at all in my local media, while BTC is a topic on practically every news and business TV program in the US.

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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2024, 10:50:14 PM »
The government would have been the first to eliminate bitcoin assuming they have what it takes, this is the only restriction to how far they can go because we are having into consideration here the use of a decentralized network and not institution that can be controlled by them, except if bitcoin chose to wrongly go by the way of its network cordinations of which the chances are very small, bitcoin will always remain the main target of the people and threat to the governments.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2024, 11:18:43 PM »
I don't think it's hostility, more like caution. But I agree with you - bitcoin is already too integrated into the global economy to be stopped,

Or what we call too big to fall for now, so yeah, most likely it's a warning from them, but then again, we should understand where this guys are coming from to say things like this.

But as you have said, there are already a country that is heavily invested on Bitcoin as they make it legal tender, and then country like Bhutan as well has make it a reserved to mine Bitcoin with their excess electricity.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2024, 11:18:43 PM »


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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2024, 02:40:32 AM »
They can impost bans in their country, but do they think that they can stop other people from investing or even accessing into Bitcoin.
Even those countries that already said that they want to ban Bitcoin can't even stop their countrymen in using it.

I don't know the reason as to why he has this kind of stance when to Bitcoin, but whatever it is, he can't change the sentiment of the masses that are investing into it. Well, those early adopters surely will make the most profit because they entered early, and that's the reward for them because they risked their money into something that they don't know if it will succeed or not. He's rich, so I don't know why he's saying it. Maybe he didn't invest in Bitcoin's early days? :D

This will not happen that's for sure. :)

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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2024, 10:16:59 AM »
We have found the European Buffet.

To be honest, we don't need to give these kind of guys much attention, because they can't actually do anything.

Bitcoin is too big to fail. It is not saved by governments, but by millions of people around the world who hold coins or run nodes or miners in their custody. And governments and anybody else can't do a thing about it.
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Re: ECB Adviser: ‘Let's Eliminate Bitcoin’
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2024, 01:10:59 PM »
We have found the European Buffet.

To be honest, we don't need to give these kind of guys much attention, because they can't actually do anything.

Bitcoin is too big to fail. It is not saved by governments, but by millions of people around the world who hold coins or run nodes or miners in their custody. And governments and anybody else can't do a thing about it.

This is also what I have been seeing, in the last 6-7 years of Bitcoin's growth, and moving forward, it's going beyond failure. And now that we have a US president that is supposedly a pro-Bitcoin, chances of Bitcoin falling is slim to none.

Not sure what other countries mindset though, but for sure with the Trump winning the election, they might change their stance and made a U-turn and accept it just like the most powerful country in US.

 

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