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Title: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Cody James on June 26, 2023, 09:49:02 AM
Workers are in danger because of AI?

The introduction of artificial intelligence (AI) systems in the workplace has sparked concerns about job security and potential replacements for human workers. Dean Meadowcroft, a former copywriter in a small marketing department, experienced firsthand the impact of AI on his job. Initially intended to work alongside human copywriters to streamline the process, the AI system fell short in delivering quality content that stood out. Despite its shortcomings, the AI was significantly faster, completing tasks that would take a human copywriter 60 to 90 minutes in just 10 minutes or less.

Approximately four months after implementing the AI system, Meadowcroft's team of four copywriters was laid off, leading him to believe that the AI had replaced them. This scenario reflects a larger trend, as AI technology continues to advance and companies seek to optimize efficiency and productivity. OpenAI's ChatGPT, a human-like response generator, and Google's Bard are just a few examples of AI systems capable of generating essays, speeches, and other content within minutes.

The introduction of AI in the workplace has raised concerns about potential job losses. A report by Goldman Sachs suggested that AI could potentially replace 300 million full-time jobs, although the impact would not be evenly distributed across industries. Administrative and legal professions face higher risks, with 46% and 44% of tasks, respectively, susceptible to automation. In contrast, construction and maintenance occupations face lower risks, with only 6% and 4% of tasks, respectively, vulnerable to automation.

While the adoption of AI technology may result in job displacement, it also has the potential to boost productivity, economic growth, and create new job opportunities. IKEA, for example, has retrained thousands of call center staff as design advisers, with an AI named Billie handling 47% of customer calls. The furniture giant does not foresee job losses due to AI implementation. However, concerns surrounding AI persist, as highlighted by a recent survey by Boston Consulting Group (BCG). The survey revealed that a third of workers polled expressed anxiety about being replaced by AI, particularly among frontline staff.

The fear of the unknown and lack of familiarity with AI contribute to heightened concerns among workers. Managers and leaders, who are more acquainted with AI technology, exhibit lower levels of anxiety compared to frontline staff. The uncertainties surrounding AI are evident in the experiences of professionals like Alejandro Graue, a voiceover artist. Graue discovered that an AI-generated voice had replaced his work on a YouTube channel, leaving him worried about the future of his profession. Although the experiment with AI-generated voiceovers was unsuccessful due to poor quality, Graue remains uncertain about the advancements in AI technology and its potential impact on his career.

While AI may not entirely replace certain job roles, many workers will likely find themselves collaborating with AI systems in some capacity. Dean Meadowcroft, now working for an employee assistance provider that offers mental health and wellbeing advice, has adapted to this changing landscape. He believes the future of AI lies in providing quick access to human-led content rather than completely eliminating the human aspect.

As AI continues to evolve, it is essential to strike a balance between leveraging its capabilities for increased efficiency and preserving the unique qualities that human workers bring to the table. The integration of AI in the workplace calls for reskilling and adapting to new roles that complement AI technology, ensuring a harmonious relationship between humans and machines.

Whats your thought?
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Uzairmoti11 on December 06, 2023, 05:09:21 PM
Whats your thought?
As AI is incorporated more and more, worries about possible risks to labor grow. Some jobs may become out of date as automation and artificial intelligence develop, which could be a threat to employment chances for particular industries. Industry and policymakers must support upskilling and reskilling activities in order to proactively address these issues. Negative effects can also be reduced by promoting a cooperative atmosphere where people and AI complement one another. Maintaining job security and keeping technology advanced must be balanced in order to facilitate a smooth transition to an AI-driven future.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Agbe on December 10, 2023, 11:40:10 AM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Thyplaymaker on December 14, 2023, 11:12:06 PM
Most people are trying to use Ai in everything trying to keep up with human at we all know that's impossible Ai knowledge it's fixed why humans are limitless. There I came across some stuff the other day. About how most film writers using Ai to create are movie in a short notice while taking others years. But fans still complain that the movie was nice but was somehow blank like there where no emotions to it. Like we humans do things with emotions. And we have something Ai can never have which is heart.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 21, 2023, 11:06:57 AM
There's no reason why should be concerned if ever we are replaced by AI on our jobs. AI was created to assist us, humans, and given a program to replicate our abilities. However, AI's abilities are limited to the information programmed into them. Unlike humans, we have no limits to our learning and continuously progress over time.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Tribalchief on December 21, 2023, 03:47:28 PM
Your write up was great. But i think i should share my opinion. I have written this same content on different platforms, with the same message but different topic title. Definitely, AI is going to be a big threat to people's jobs, but there is something that should be noted, and that is 'value'.

AI has a better working rate than humans, i.e it does a task in lesser time, but does it have value ?. People in the world wants a piece of information that was originated from natural/human intelligence. They see this information as something that contains more value than that of the AI.

The popular Mona Lisa painting is something that can be drawn by an AI, but i assure you that 95% of people that loves painting would want to go for the original human painting instead of the one drawn by the ai.

In conclusion, i think value will differentiate human effort from ai.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: gunhell16 on December 22, 2023, 08:28:39 AM
Actually many other workers in other countries are probably worried about AI robots that can replace them, but I have never heard of a company whose employees are all AI robots, I have never heard of anything like this news on any social media platform, and so on.

But it's still possible in the future, because companies can save money if they actually do it. It's just that there are disadvantages to using them because they don't have emotions, instead what is programmed will be their response for sure.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Agbe on January 02, 2024, 05:09:01 PM
In addition to what I have said and what others behave said. AI cannot learn this from human but human beings can learn things from AI. And that is why human beings create higher technology every year, decades and centuries. And according to history cryptocurrency is not a new technology but it has been in existence on the earth for years but the recent innovation, and technology in advance makes it more superior to the first one which was known in the ecosystem. The most beautiful part of AI is that it makes easy for the human to use and it increases the knowledge of human to manufacture another higher ones. Like before we used Google to asked for answers but now AI will do the job very fast. Everything is from human brain.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Cheema02 on January 03, 2024, 03:31:49 AM
Whats your thought?
As AI is incorporated more and more, worries about possible risks to labor grow. Some jobs may become out of date as automation and artificial intelligence develop, which could be a threat to employment chances for particular industries. Industry and policymakers must support upskilling and reskilling activities in order to proactively address these issues. Negative effects can also be reduced by promoting a cooperative atmosphere where people and AI complement one another. Maintaining job security and keeping technology advanced must be balanced in order to facilitate a smooth transition to an AI-driven future.
In my opinion Ai certainly increases efficiency it also raises questions about job security. In the workplace there is a balance between displacement and enhancement. There is reason to be concerned about jobs being lost to automation, particularly in some industries. But AI can also be used to collaborate and adapt leading to a peaceful coexistence. I think balanced future can be achieved by accepting new occupations that complement AI and reskilling existing ones.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on January 03, 2024, 01:42:07 PM
The world is changing, progress doesn't stand still. I believe that some professions, or more correctly, low-qualified specialists in some professions can be replaced by AI.
the thing is that what we think of as AI is not AI. These are systems with a huge set of data wrapped in a convenient language model, with elements of learning and high speed of information delivery or content generation. Accordingly, they can replace some people by doing their work for them. But this is as natural a process as, for example, the withdrawal from the market of some specialties - stoker, horseman, letter carrier, and some others that have been replaced by more technological solutions....
So, some people really should retrain and try other jobs.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Agbe on January 03, 2024, 04:51:57 PM
The world is changing, progress doesn't stand still. I believe that some professions, or more correctly, low-qualified specialists in some professions can be replaced by AI.
the thing is that what we think of as AI is not AI. These are systems with a huge set of data wrapped in a convenient language model, with elements of learning and high speed of information delivery or content generation. Accordingly, they can replace some people by doing their work for them. But this is as natural a process as, for example, the withdrawal from the market of some specialties - stoker, horseman, letter carrier, and some others that have been replaced by more technological solutions....
So, some people really should retrain and try other jobs.
The way I was thinking about this, if really government wants to employ workers massively, they can employ because AI can only reduce the work force from the professional workers and not the minor field workers. The matter technological innovations is very high in the world, Robots can not over take human beings in anything because even at that they are still manipulated by human. AI can take over the office of Clerical Officers which is base on recording documents and AI can do that work very effectively in the digital storage.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: electronicash on January 03, 2024, 05:09:23 PM

after i saw AI can generate images and the very recent happiest rabbit that its almost godly like, it sure is somewhat going to replace the graphic artist in the future.

there was even a news recently where there was a photo contest and the winner revealed it was actually generated by AI.  i'm sure it was such a disappointment to all the contestant but surprisingly non of them have the idea even the judges.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on January 03, 2024, 10:53:45 PM
The world is changing, progress doesn't stand still. I believe that some professions, or more correctly, low-qualified specialists in some professions can be replaced by AI.
the thing is that what we think of as AI is not AI. These are systems with a huge set of data wrapped in a convenient language model, with elements of learning and high speed of information delivery or content generation. Accordingly, they can replace some people by doing their work for them. But this is as natural a process as, for example, the withdrawal from the market of some specialties - stoker, horseman, letter carrier, and some others that have been replaced by more technological solutions....
So, some people really should retrain and try other jobs.
The way I was thinking about this, if really government wants to employ workers massively, they can employ because AI can only reduce the work force from the professional workers and not the minor field workers. The matter technological innovations is very high in the world, Robots can not over take human beings in anything because even at that they are still manipulated by human. AI can take over the office of Clerical Officers which is base on recording documents and AI can do that work very effectively in the digital storage.

To begin with, we need to accept reality and clarify - what we see now and what we are talking about now is not Artificial Intelligence. It is huge repositories of knowledge plus neural networks capable of learning and it is all "wrapped" in large language models. But there is no INTELLIGENCE there. So these systems MAY be able to generate answers by taking seconds to process a HUGE amount of information, which is really beyond human capacity. So at the moment the system can only generate ANSWERS (texts, pictures, code, ...) to user queries. I will also mention that such a concept (though using AI abbreviation) as "Generative Artificial Intelligence" has been introduced. The description of this concept is a type of AI that can create new content and ideas, including conversations, stories, images, videos and music.

Accordingly, it can only "replace" a small fraction of humans. I put the word "replace" in quotation marks for a reason - because the system works under the CONTROL of a human who can formulate a task, make a description of the statement, accept the answer, and give corrective comments to re-generate the answer. Total - if it replaces only inefficient employees. But it will require effective task setters for "AI" and those who can control their work.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 03, 2024, 11:40:39 PM
Workers are in danger because of AI?

The introduction of artificial intelligence (AI) systems in the workplace has sparked concerns about job security and potential replacements for human workers

Ok, I am going to give you a scenario here: during the olden days, our (my people) people farmed a lot with different manual tools and equipment. Due to the physical strength of some animals, the farmers use them to transport their farm products to the market, while some animals assist in the construction of ridges too. But in the 21st century,we now have buses and trucks that help in the transportation of those farm products to the market. We also have some automatic machines that construct ridges, while there are some that till the soil. We also have machines that harvest the fruits, and other existing automatic machines that have made farm work easier.

With the above scenario being narrated, my question is: did the development of new farm equipment stop farmers from doing the work they are supposed to do? The answer is no. Now that trucks are used to transport goods, there is still a need to employ a human as a driver. All the new farming equipment still requires someone to operate it and also service it. It still needs someone to clean them up and maintain them for efficient work.

In conclusion, even if AI keeps evolving, it will not totally take up all the human work but will still create another opportunity for humans.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on January 06, 2024, 11:41:35 AM

after i saw AI can generate images and the very recent happiest rabbit that its almost godly like, it sure is somewhat going to replace the graphic artist in the future.

there was even a news recently where there was a photo contest and the winner revealed it was actually generated by AI.  i'm sure it was such a disappointment to all the contestant but surprisingly non of them have the idea even the judges.

I'll give you another example :)
When movers used to carry loads by hand, there was a huge amount of them, everyone was busy with hard work. But at first primitive technical means - like "blocks" - appeared and it became easier for people.... And then came the rockcars and forklifts :) And if we now hold a competition on the productivity of a human loader and a rockla with an operator, the second solution will win by a huge margin. Yes, humans have many limitations that machinery and technology do not have !
PS Maybe the example is not quite accurate, in relation to the example with photo, but the basic essence conveys well :)
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Bodhi2021 on January 20, 2024, 05:58:05 PM
Yes, workers are in danger because of the coming of Artificial Intelligence, they are all in trauma because they think it will affect there job and will not be able to earn a living without their job but I disagree with that, if you should take a look at Artificial Intelligence (A.I)” did not created itself but rather it was programmed by human, and cannot work without human beings indulgence in it, but rather will just serve as a means of fastening of work and easy. A work that can take a human for about three days an Artificial Intelligence can finish it in just some hours or even minute without being tired like human beings those. Though it is a good thing because now people can also work from there houses without physically present in their offices, example of it is during the COVID-19 pandemic when people are being locked down in there houses, some businesses where totally shot down, while order businesses are there growing and earning, and when you take a look at it then those ones that have been shot down are the one that depends on human physical ability to work and the ones that grows are the ones that embrace the coming of Artificial Intelligence and put it in there day to day Activities. So for me it’s not Danger but rather a means to grow the Economy and also to serve as a means of Assistance to the human on their daily Activities.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Perfect540 on January 22, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Sam Altman says that artificial intelligence will take away 40% of workers' jobs in the future, so it is understood that artificial intelligence will work as a substitute for workers in the future.  If artificial intelligence is used as a substitute for workers, the unemployment rate will surely increase, and the unemployment rate will increase and the unique collateral problems will be created in the world.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitbit97 on January 22, 2024, 02:35:16 PM
Yes, workers are in danger because of the coming of Artificial Intelligence

Dont be silly. Only few people are in danger of loosing jobs because of AI. AI is still isnt as perfect as humans, they are still far from generating perfect solution. Who are endangered of getting fired ? IT guys? They must understood that progress does not stand still and the sector they work in is one of the fastest to develop. If they thought that they will learn few things and will work on one job till retirement, then this is their problems. Quite strange that people are afraid of AI that it will replace them, but they arent afraid that they get old and younger generation replace them.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Perfect540 on January 22, 2024, 03:35:34 PM
Yes, workers are in danger because of the coming of Artificial Intelligence

Dont be silly. Only few people are in danger of loosing jobs because of AI. AI is still isnt as perfect as humans, they are still far from generating perfect solution. Who are endangered of getting fired ? IT guys? They must understood that progress does not stand still and the sector they work in is one of the fastest to develop. If they thought that they will learn few things and will work on one job till retirement, then this is their problems. Quite strange that people are afraid of AI that it will replace them, but they arent afraid that they get old and younger generation replace them.
Yes it is also true that artificial intelligence can do the work that humans can do but it will be very difficult.  But there are some human tasks that artificial intelligence cannot do.  In this case, no matter how much artificial intelligence takes the place of humans, a hundred percent cannot do anything without humans.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitbit97 on January 23, 2024, 05:00:17 PM
True. Powers and possibilities of current AI is very limited. Who can be endangered because of it? Only IT guys, freelancers, designers. Those who were not very creative and did basic stuff, these people would be replaced by AI. But those who are really professionals and skilled should not worry much. There are still to many professions where humans is the only one who could do the tasks. No script can replace so called blue collars or those who "work on the field".

I really dont understand why people create so much hype about danger of AI and jobs. Like they planned to work on one job, from time they graduated from university till retirement, without changing anything? If someone got replaced by AI then life does not stop, go and find another job.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 02, 2024, 01:39:45 PM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
The only thing AI technology takes an advantage over human labour is because of the fact that it is an accurate answer for avoiding human errors. Undoubtedly a threat to unemployment but it makes the operation fast and accurate. Technology is advancing so let us embrace it with caution. Humans will always find solutions to every problem so for me unemployment issue might be solved in the future if we really are into a fully AI world.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 5thFear on February 03, 2024, 11:38:25 AM
The old tech always gets obsolete. Same is the case with people. The one who don't upgrade themselves to the new techs are going to get obsoleted. AI is just doing it at a very high pace. So to remain in the trend and to remain part of the latest AI environment, all the jobs and people needs to embrace AI and integrate it into their work. There is no other way.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: MUGNIA on February 03, 2024, 12:54:20 PM
I believe that humans shouldn't be concerned about being replaced by AI in their jobs. AI was created to assist humans and is programmed to replicate human abilities. However, AI's abilities are limited to the information programmed into them. Unlike humans, we have no limits to our learning and continuously progress over time.
that's the reason why humans must always learn and must accept technological progress, but no matter how perfect an AI program is, it definitely has its shortcomings, so we don't need to be afraid of AI, but
make it a motivation to be better than AI and cannot be replaced by AI
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 04, 2024, 02:15:20 PM
I believe that humans shouldn't be concerned about being replaced by AI in their jobs. AI was created to assist humans and is programmed to replicate human abilities. However, AI's abilities are limited to the information programmed into them. Unlike humans, we have no limits to our learning and continuously progress over time.
that's the reason why humans must always learn and must accept technological progress, but no matter how perfect an AI program is, it definitely has its shortcomings, so we don't need to be afraid of AI, but
make it a motivation to be better than AI and cannot be replaced by AI
Of course as we all know that AI needs humans for upgrades and improvements while humans has it through the evolution of our instincts. We humans created AI therefore we are in control of it. My questions are, do we really think this is the end of human participation especially in the manpower industry? Are we ready to embrace this reality? Do you think you are more capable than AI in a specific field or job?
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on February 05, 2024, 10:32:18 PM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
The only thing AI technology takes an advantage over human labour is because of the fact that it is an accurate answer for avoiding human errors. Undoubtedly a threat to unemployment but it makes the operation fast and accurate. Technology is advancing so let us embrace it with caution. Humans will always find solutions to every problem so for me unemployment issue might be solved in the future if we really are into a fully AI world.

I have to disappoint you a little :)
What they now pass off to us as AI is not AI. This is a large language model with a gigantic set of data and parameters. Those. This is not a THINKING system, but simply one that can do some actions with data. And even “creativity” like drawing pictures is not intelligence, it is a set of data, systematized and presented in some form. Yes, this system allows you to find and provide the necessary information much faster. Yes, this model’s “stock of knowledge” is greater than that of any person. But.. this data is a huge set of varied information, including INCORRECT...

Believe me, as a person who has worked with many AI systems. They give errors regularly, the variability of the answer depends on different settings, and a repeated answer can be very different from the previous one to the same question :)

A small picture about “intelligence” - do you think it will replace humans?  ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3jr7KDq/nature-is-so-beautiful-v0-qdj0e9cn2qha1.webp) (https://postimg.cc/RJqN8yc8)
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Agbe on February 05, 2024, 11:15:27 PM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
The only thing AI technology takes an advantage over human labour is because of the fact that it is an accurate answer for avoiding human errors. Undoubtedly a threat to unemployment but it makes the operation fast and accurate. Technology is advancing so let us embrace it with caution. Humans will always find solutions to every problem so for me unemployment issue might be solved in the future if we really are into a fully AI world.
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Exactly, as I said AI cannot takeover human activities because all those pictures people are even producing from AI and AI photo labs are just artificial (not real but computer design). But human can give the real image of the object or the person. And if it is an article human can write it in different ways but AI only give one answer as I said and other have said it too. Not that AI is bad but the way people using using it and appraisal to it is too much. It do as if AI is more intelligent than hum when it is programed by the same human.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on February 06, 2024, 09:26:31 AM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
The only thing AI technology takes an advantage over human labour is because of the fact that it is an accurate answer for avoiding human errors. Undoubtedly a threat to unemployment but it makes the operation fast and accurate. Technology is advancing so let us embrace it with caution. Humans will always find solutions to every problem so for me unemployment issue might be solved in the future if we really are into a fully AI world.
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Exactly, as I said AI cannot takeover human activities because all those pictures people are even producing from AI and AI photo labs are just artificial (not real but computer design). But human can give the real image of the object or the person. And if it is an article human can write it in different ways but AI only give one answer as I said and other have said it too. Not that AI is bad but the way people using using it and appraisal to it is too much. It do as if AI is more intelligent than hum when it is programed by the same human.


That's what I'm getting at:
- today's AI systems cannot fully replace humans. I put the abbreviation AI in quotes for a reason :)
- What can be replaced is systematized labor. From writing banal descriptions and articles to some "salmon in the river". Yes, I know that now systems trained by neural networks can create absolutely realistic pictures, and even "make movies". But ask a question - do you want to see yourself and your family in "synthetic photos" where you will only resemble yourself?
- Today's "AI" systems can REDUCE many processes. For example, modeling of chemical reactions, or calculation of properties of new (physically not created materials), but it will not replace real chemists and engineers.

As a bottom line. I've said before and will continue to say at this point - what we now consider AI is somewhat different. Yes, it is a GREAT aid to humanity, but it is not a replacement for humanity. Who is afraid of a forklift taking his job as a loader - learn new fields, yes, progress does not stand still.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Sokani on February 07, 2024, 02:55:23 PM
We cannot take away the human factor in some jobs, for instance the medical profession, an AI cannot operate on a patient. Also, we cannot lie that AI is not a threat to our jobs. The other day, I met a friend who's a graphic designer, and during our conversation he was complaining bitterly of not getting job offers the way he used to because of AI. According to him, he said people now resort to AI to get their designs done because it's faster and cheaper. Accounting, cleaning, marketing jobs and many more are under threat. With the rapid rise and development of the technology, most of our jobs will be replaced very soon by AI.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitbit97 on February 07, 2024, 04:17:46 PM
We cannot take away the human factor in some jobs, for instance the medical profession, an AI cannot operate on a patient. Also, we cannot lie that AI is not a threat to our jobs. The other day, I met a friend who's a graphic designer, and during our conversation he was complaining bitterly of not getting job offers the way he used to because of AI. According to him, he said people now resort to AI to get their designs done because it's faster and cheaper. Accounting, cleaning, marketing jobs and many more are under threat. With the rapid rise and development of the technology, most of our jobs will be replaced very soon by AI.

AI dont have hands, so there will always be work for humans. Current generations problem is that they are very relaxed. They think that they have found a job, and they will keep it and work in one company, on one position until retirement. If we look at persons "working list" 30-50 years ago, then a person during life has changed 10-20 different job. While nowadays people are used to work 5-30 years on same position in same company. Progress is inevitable. People must understand that. People must also understand, that when some jobs are replaced (with AI in our case), new and other jobs appear.

Ask people whos jobs were doing manual labor, and later they were replaced by machines. They have found new jobs. So why "Accounting, cleaning, marketing jobs, designers and  IP sector" now complain? Human labor was once replaced by machines already > new jobs appeared. Now its the second wave, new jobs are going to appear to.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on February 07, 2024, 08:41:12 PM
True. Powers and possibilities of current AI is very limited. Who can be endangered because of it? Only IT guys, freelancers, designers. Those who were not very creative and did basic stuff, these people would be replaced by AI. But those who are really professionals and skilled should not worry much. There are still to many professions where humans is the only one who could do the tasks. No script can replace so called blue collars or those who "work on the field".

I really dont understand why people create so much hype about danger of AI and jobs. Like they planned to work on one job, from time they graduated from university till retirement, without changing anything? If someone got replaced by AI then life does not stop, go and find another job.

A very controversial thought :)

I am of a different opinion:

1. As I said before - AI does not exist at the moment.
At the moment there is a problem of substituting the value of neural networks and machine learning for AI. This is ERROR !
And this model can replace only those whose work does not require high specialization and whose work product is not unique or extraordinary. And if we return to the topic of programmers - this is definitely not about programmers. I'm not talking about "anicists", I'm talking about programmers. Why ? To explain very simply - the answers generated by the Big Language Model are a "squeeze" of available materials written by programmers of different level and quality ! Accordingly, the answer, or "work", in this case will be a mixture of all other answers, and as we understand - it will be far from ideal solution ! also in many other directions.

2. AI (when it appears) can replace artists, poets, composers, designers, constructors, philosophers, teachers, announcers, .... and similar professions, where there is no "physical" participation in the work process, or where there is a demand for extraordinary, "soulful" solutions.

3. And the stage of humanity's decline will be the appearance of AI, which will have self-consciousness!  Well, maybe someone will be lucky and one of us will become a pet. like a hamster, in a family of Quantum Individuals :))
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitbit97 on February 08, 2024, 03:32:12 PM
A very controversial thought :)

Uncle Jack used to cut wood by hand saw, dragged the tree by hand home, processed wood by hand till finished product. Now he has a chainsaw, manipulator and laser wood cutting machine. Now it takes 1h instead of few days to make a product. Now he is a businessman, works, lets say in the office. Machinery replaced his manual labor. Now we face new helper, AI.

Progress can not be stopped. We live in a world of balance. People got replaced by AI, they will find themselves elsewhere. Artists, poets, composers, designers, constructors, philosophers, teachers afraid to be replaced. I see them being more affordable. People are afraid AI will destroy them. I believe people have calculated such outcome and would be smart enough not to give AI full access everywhere.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on February 08, 2024, 09:26:36 PM
A very controversial thought :)

Uncle Jack used to cut wood by hand saw, dragged the tree by hand home, processed wood by hand till finished product. Now he has a chainsaw, manipulator and laser wood cutting machine. Now it takes 1h instead of few days to make a product. Now he is a businessman, works, lets say in the office. Machinery replaced his manual labor. Now we face new helper, AI.

Progress can not be stopped. We live in a world of balance. People got replaced by AI, they will find themselves elsewhere. Artists, poets, composers, designers, constructors, philosophers, teachers afraid to be replaced. I see them being more affordable. People are afraid AI will destroy them. I believe people have calculated such outcome and would be smart enough not to give AI full access everywhere.

I'm not denying progress - it's a natural process, since the advent of man of reason :)
My point is that the risk of Big Language Models paired with Neural Networks is overestimated now. Yes, I agree that they will replace a part of workers, but it will be 90+% of the most inefficient part of working people. On the other hand, I have doubts that these people create a really useful product. there are a lot of people who have been doing primitive work for decades, which doesn't produce anything but jobs for them. But they have not made a decision to develop their knowledge and skills, and move to a higher and more productive level... Sounds cynical - but "natural selection" works in our world too...  And it's an eternal process.
That's why, for example, I am constantly studying new areas, looking for new ways to earn money, or ideas for additional business, which I strongly recommend to everyone!
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Nwada001 on February 11, 2024, 11:45:07 PM
Progress can not be stopped. We live in a world of balance. People got replaced by AI, they will find themselves elsewhere. Artists, poets, composers, designers, constructors, philosophers, teachers afraid to be replaced. I see them being more affordable. People are afraid AI will destroy them. I believe people have calculated such outcome and would be smart enough not to give AI full access everywhere.

People will definitely find a replacement that they can use if AI takes their job, but that can't be immediately, and besides, it's not all the time that AIs will take charge; there are still areas where human labour will still be needed in every industry.
 
The only set of employees who are going to suffer if AI is to take total control of organisational tasks are those who don't have physical skills, which require human effort aside from what machines can do, like repairs and maintenance of equipment. Those in that field will still be highly needed at some point.
 
Technological advancement has both positive and negative impacts on the economy. To the company, it will cost them less in terms of hiring workers, which will save them money that could have been used to pay workers, and to the workers, a lot of them will be sent back to the street due to their service no longer being needed in the company.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Mrbluntzy on February 12, 2024, 02:07:29 AM
I only agree with you to some extend. How do you picture an AI in the class room lecturing students or pupils? Will AI also be in charge of making food for familie? All these whole AI Sagar can not entirely take over the labour market, it can not also take over the entire industry, people will still need humans to work.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: retreat on February 12, 2024, 07:42:00 AM
Maybe AI will replace some repetitive tasks, such as sorting, administration, etc., and maybe that will make people who work in those fields a little worried that their jobs will be replaced by AI. But let's look at the big picture, how in the future this AI can make the industry more efficient and faster, and it will help servers in many areas and it will be able to improve many things such as efficiency, speed, better service, and many positive things other. And maybe this will open up more jobs such as analysis, integration and planning of AI technology, and several other jobs.
Moreover, it is also impossible for companies to replace all aspects of their company using AI technology, because there are several parts that still require human responsibility. And the government may also set regulations that limit companies from being able to use more AI technology in their companies in the future.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on February 12, 2024, 09:42:56 AM
Maybe AI will replace some repetitive tasks, such as sorting, administration, etc., and maybe that will make people who work in those fields a little worried that their jobs will be replaced by AI. But let's look at the big picture, how in the future this AI can make the industry more efficient and faster, and it will help servers in many areas and it will be able to improve many things such as efficiency, speed, better service, and many positive things other. And maybe this will open up more jobs such as analysis, integration and planning of AI technology, and several other jobs.
Moreover, it is also impossible for companies to replace all aspects of their company using AI technology, because there are several parts that still require human responsibility. And the government may also set regulations that limit companies from being able to use more AI technology in their companies in the future.

The fact is that many people can't understand a simple law, and start making up "scary stories". The law is as follows: man influences progress by inventing new technologies, and these technologies change man!

To illustrate a simple example - the transition from "horse power" to steam engines. This is the simplest and well understood example. When most of our life was tied to the physical strength of people and animals, we had our own set of "in-demand specialists", from, excuse me, slave traders, to blacksmiths shoeing horses. The steam engine appeared, and the same "hysteria" began - infernal inventions, will kill mankind, where to put the stablemen.... And it turned out that at the same moment there was a huge demand for other specialties - from stokers for steam boilers to engineers who develop new steam-powered systems.  And most importantly - it's a natural process !
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitbit97 on February 12, 2024, 11:00:55 AM
Only uninitiative people are afraid of AI and loosing jobs. When persons looses job, it does not mean that his life is over. It does not mean that now that person has to sit and wait for death. Qualified, professional or purposeful person will always find a job, will always be busy.

I will give an illustration of worker vs AI like DrBeer did. Like AI now aims only in several working field, then we have young workers and  senior workers. There are jobs where younger employee make is easier, quicker, cheaper, than lets say +55 years old employee. Now what suppose those elder employees should do? Make hysteria that younger generation are stealing their work, while they still have 5-10 years to work?
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 12, 2024, 03:11:10 PM
The only advantage of AI versus humans is that it never gets tired and old. Though a threat to unemployment but I know we still have choices in another field so much better to explore and embrace new ideas. Technological advancement is inevitable so instead of complaining I think we need to accept the fact that it is what it is.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 17, 2024, 07:12:02 PM
The world is evolving and so should humans, in no distant time, AI tech would dominate the society and doing most works that humans did, thereby replacing humans. But on the other hand this isn't completely a disadvantage because it would have its own advantages, humans wont have to stress themselves in other to carry out a task, instead AIs would do them with ease.

There are still so many skills that humans posses which AIs and Robots don't and can never do them, humans can feature in these tasks in other to keep earning a living. Because whether we like it or not, the world will keep evolving.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 11, 2024, 04:06:57 PM
With time these AI will do most of the work that human do and it will cause lack of employment. And that is one major disadvantage of digital world in the society, so I will advise you to acquire some skills and focus on entrepreneurship too.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 12, 2024, 09:32:35 AM
With time these AI will do most of the work that human do and it will cause lack of employment. And that is one major disadvantage of digital world in the society, so I will advise you to acquire some skills and focus on entrepreneurship too.
Yeah skills is important nowadays especially for individuals like me who has no degree. Skilled workers are still in demand nowadays abroad so much better to grab this opportunity so maybe enrolling to vocational schools will make sense in acquiring specific skills that suit you. AI cannot replace skill specific jobs that fast because it still needs much time for development so it is an advantage for us humans. We can get decent or even high salary from that depending on our qualifications.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on March 13, 2024, 10:03:20 PM
Workers are in danger because of AI?
Whats your thought?

As the world goes by day the world is getting full of competition and everyone is creating a competitive environment at work.  Back in the day, robotics or artificial intelligence may not have had as much of an impact on the workplace as it does today.  Workers are currently in the danger zone for artificial intelligence, which is why 40% of their workplaces may fall under artificial intelligence, resulting in unemployment for a large part of the world.  However as the world is moving forward new technology and updates are creating a lot of competition in the field of human work due to which some time it may have a negative impact on the manual workers.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DragonF on March 14, 2024, 12:50:01 AM
The truth is that AI cannot take over jobs that require human strength. Humans will always be needed to do certain jobs.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 14, 2024, 02:04:34 AM
"Whats your thought?
The invention of AI, artificial intelligence has made human beings to lost their job. Because of AI less manpower is needed in so many companies right now,presently so many industry has adopted AI like healthcare,marketing and manufacturing industries. Even a doctorate degree holder, is not  under immunity over AI displacement. Watch out for 2025 how AI will dominate several industries. That's my  opinion.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on March 14, 2024, 10:23:58 PM
The old tech always gets obsolete. Same is the case with people. The one who don't upgrade themselves to the new techs are going to get obsoleted. AI is just doing it at a very high pace. So to remain in the trend and to remain part of the latest AI environment, all the jobs and people needs to embrace AI and integrate it into their work. There is no other way.
It is natural that the old technologies are currently being updated with new technologies and here the amount of labor of the workers will be reduced to a great extent. Whereas in earlier days it took five workers to produce a product, in this era of artificial intelligence it takes two workers to do that work, then three workers have been replaced by artificial intelligence. There is nothing we can do hereThis is happening due to the updating of civilization and regular updating of technology and it is assumed that in the far future a large part of the workers will be replaced by robots or artificial intelligence and then the world will become more updated and the quality of life will improve.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 15, 2024, 01:17:13 PM
The truth is that AI cannot take over jobs that require human strength. Humans will always be needed to do certain jobs.
Yeah just like plumbing, scaffolding and other complicated jobs that requires human intervention so yeah I don't think AI can do that job as well. It will take a lot of time for AI to maybe take over all types of traditional jobs because AI itself needs us humans so we should not be worried for now but still we sould also prepare for this since we all know that technological advancement is inevitable.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 15, 2024, 11:18:20 PM
The truth is that AI cannot take over jobs that require human strength. Humans will always be needed to do certain jobs.
Yeah just like plumbing, scaffolding and other complicated jobs that requires human intervention so yeah I don't think AI can do that job as well. It will take a lot of time for AI to maybe take over all types of traditional jobs because AI itself needs us humans so we should not be worried for now but still we sould also prepare for this since we all know that technological advancement is inevitable.
Not unless they are programmed to do jobs like that. But yes, as you have said, in terms of jobs where human intervention is required, like complicated scenarios where we need to think of the possible next action we should take, it's not for AI to do because compared to humans, they can't think on their own. We should never be worried about this, AI are only invented to help humans do the hard jobs become easier and not to completely replace us to do every job.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 22, 2024, 12:58:28 PM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
Based on my opinion,doesn't matter how technology advance this time, it cannot take away human labor out of the same. There's a place we're technology have a limit, AI cannot become a substitute for human beings, because there are things only humans can do with AI cannot do. For me AI is just an added advantage to humans not a substitute.i align with you.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: EluguHcman on March 22, 2024, 02:56:00 PM
Absolutely true that as AI technology evolves in advances, so human services in need would limited even though as said that there are fields by which the AI won't be needed or fits in to occupy, the truth remains that the technology advancement would always cause redundancies to human resources which is already becoming a threat.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 30, 2024, 11:09:02 PM

AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
[/quote]Based on my opinion,doesn't matter how technology advance this time, it cannot take away human labor out of the same. There's a place we're technology have a limit, AI cannot become a substitute for human beings, because there are things only humans can do with AI cannot do. For me AI is just an added advantage to humans not a substitute.i align with you.
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Are you sure? Because with time AI robots will be built and they will perform most task that humans do. Like in most big companies now heavy duty machines are been operated by human being, but with time, don't you think AI robots can perform those tasks?
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on March 31, 2024, 06:02:03 PM
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Are you sure? Because with time AI robots will be built and they will perform most task that humans do. Like in most big companies now heavy duty machines are been operated by human being, but with time, don't you think AI robots can perform those tasks?

1. No real AI has been created at this time. There is a Big Language Model and a huge knowledge base. And this system works only at the request (command) of a human. It does not set itself tasks, does not search for knowledge on its own. These are still algorithms, but not AI....
2. In the future, it is likely that real AI will be created. And it will be a new stage in the development of mankind. Or its finale - it all depends on how and for what mankind will use this solution, and what limitations it will be able to put in this solution.

But we most likely can't escape from evolution, including such kind of unification of humans and artificial life/ AI. Just as we have not escaped mechanization, promouche revolution, automation, computerization....
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Sim_card on March 31, 2024, 06:09:28 PM
AI cannot take over human labour. AI is already programed and human knowledge is unlimited so to what extent AI becomes a threat to human labour. If a question is asked AI gives the same answer while human gives different answers. And the only thing I can say that AI helps human is, it makes things easy to search. The believe of the new generational approach and ideology, human labour can not be eliminated in any technology.
If it was easy for AI to take over human jobs, then I believe that it would have happened long ago. But the fact is that human are more intelligent that any machine because they are the ones that program these machines. Some jobs like you said can never be done by AI, if not is will be a dumb suggestion. Human brain calculate and think based on the present scenario playing out which AI is incapable o. The only thing is that AI can do the odd jobs.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DragonF on April 01, 2024, 01:04:43 AM
Absolutely true that as AI technology evolves in advances, so human services in need would limited even though as said that there are fields by which AI won't be needed or fits to occupy, the truth remains that technological advancement will always cause redundancies to humans resources which is already becoming a threat.

This reminds me of the era when it was predicted that robots would take over human jobs and all factory jobs would be handled by robots but today humans are still working and now debates are ongoing that AI will replace human jobs. No matter how we try to push, AI cannot take human jobs. AI is programmed and must act based on how it is programmed but humans have reason which is what makes it superior to robot or AI.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 04, 2024, 05:28:17 PM
Absolutely true that as AI technology evolves in advances, so human services in need would limited even though as said that there are fields by which AI won't be needed or fits to occupy, the truth remains that technological advancement will always cause redundancies to humans resources which is already becoming a threat.

This reminds me of the era when it was predicted that robots would take over human jobs and all factory jobs would be handled by robots but today humans are still working and now debates are ongoing that AI will replace human jobs. No matter how we try to push, AI cannot take human jobs. AI is programmed and must act based on how it is programmed but humans have reason which is what makes it superior to robot or AI.
The only downside if humans will create self consiousness with robots and AI is that it will literally take over humanity whether we like it or not and I think that was what Elon Musk is afraid of.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: EluguHcman on April 08, 2024, 02:09:28 AM
Instead of insighting such fear to the vulnerables, let's just say the world is advancing and the people need to get on skill base and engages on more proefficient entrepreneurship because there is an technology to take over those practical terms of humans in some certain fields.
That would be more courageous to spread the he news that the AI would replace the manpowers or even most certain skill bases.
We just have to technically ease that discouragement of fears
Yes of course the AI is coming to take over most humans services but all hope is not lost and we don't have to be scared or the development.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 08, 2024, 09:45:44 AM
This reminds me of the era when it was predicted that robots would take over human jobs and all factory jobs would be handled by robots but today humans are still working and now debates are ongoing that AI will replace human jobs. No matter how we try to push, AI cannot take human jobs. AI is programmed and must act based on how it is programmed but humans have reason which is what makes it superior to robot or AI.

Better do a reread of that, then. Far fewer human workers are needed today for the same manufacturing processes than 50 years ago. The thing is that over time improvements and new processes have been introduced that have meant that, apart from more and new machines, workers are also needed. But look at the countryside, for example, how many people were needed 100 years ago to work 100 acres of land and how many are needed now.

With AI I think the trend will be the same. Little by little there will be jobs that will be replaced by AI, maybe not totally but in a big part, and others, I think for example a physiotherapist, I see it difficult to be replaced. The question is to try to adapt to the changing times in which we live.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 09, 2024, 09:54:02 AM
This is already happening years ago since this Robotics are being presented and accepted by business owners that made them cheap in expenses and also earning better and faster.
though Now that AI is in the progress then that is more on serving the riches and denying the poorer.
I hate this idea and I hope this will stops in the future.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 12, 2024, 09:21:22 AM
This is already happening years ago since this Robotics are being presented and accepted by business owners that made them cheap in expenses and also earning better and faster.
though Now that AI is in the progress then that is more on serving the riches and denying the poorer.
I hate this idea and I hope this will stops in the future.
I think I can see this happened in China wherein they use maybe AI technology and robotics in manufacturing companies that reduces human errors and workers. That is why I think unemployment rate in that country is high. Compared to a third world country like ours.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 12, 2024, 03:30:17 PM
This is already happening years ago since this Robotics are being presented and accepted by business owners that made them cheap in expenses and also earning better and faster.
though Now that AI is in the progress then that is more on serving the riches and denying the poorer.
I hate this idea and I hope this will stops in the future.
I think I can see this happened in China wherein they use maybe AI technology and robotics in manufacturing companies that reduces human errors and workers. That is why I think unemployment rate in that country is high. Compared to a third world country like ours.
I also heard about that, but you know what, it does happen even in our country, the Philippines, not only in China. If you search Good Taste in Baguio, they use AI or robots to serve the food for their customers. Though, they still require human intervention and a lot of stuff to make sure they are accommodating all of their customers since it is a huge restaurant.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 14, 2024, 12:14:24 PM
This is already happening years ago since this Robotics are being presented and accepted by business owners that made them cheap in expenses and also earning better and faster.
though Now that AI is in the progress then that is more on serving the riches and denying the poorer.
I hate this idea and I hope this will stops in the future.
I think I can see this happened in China wherein they use maybe AI technology and robotics in manufacturing companies that reduces human errors and workers. That is why I think unemployment rate in that country is high. Compared to a third world country like ours.
I also heard about that, but you know what, it does happen even in our country, the Philippines, not only in China. If you search Good Taste in Baguio, they use AI or robots to serve the food for their customers. Though, they still require human intervention and a lot of stuff to make sure they are accommodating all of their customers since it is a huge restaurant.
Yeah true but I think it will still took a long time for our country to be fully dependent on AI technology and based on my observation it won't affect that much for us since we are sending our kababayans abroad for work which I think AI will be having a hard time taking over domestic helper or care giving jobs. But here in my place farmers are now using heavy machineries to cultivate the land before and after harvest and based on what I saw and hear to laborers they are not profitable because machines take over their job.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on April 14, 2024, 02:04:38 PM
I'll give you my opinion. And not a theoretical one, but based on practice :)
1. what we now call AI is not a real artificial intelligence. Whether you like it or not, it is a fact :) Who will be interested - I will explain why it is so.
2.Modern "AI" is just a new technology of information processing. Yes - it speeds up getting answers (close to the correct ones), yes it allows you to work with a huge, previously unavailable volume of SYSTEMATIZED information. Yes - it can even "create" some entities according to given algorithms. And yes - it all affects some part of the labor market, replacing inefficient people with more efficient technology ... Doesn't that remind you of anything?

Mankind has already experienced such moments and more than once ! It's called PROGRESS ! Yes, it has a side effect - change of labor market requirements, when the demand for some specialists decreases, but the demand for others increases. It will be the same here... It is just that those whose profession is in the "risk zone" should start preparing for the changes - get new knowledge and start retooling.
About "risk zones" - I think it is very important to discuss this and understand where there are real risks, such a discussion will be more useful!
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Smilez on May 04, 2024, 02:43:13 AM
I Think of AI as a helpful tool, like how inventions helped farmers work better in the past. AI is here to make our tasks easier and more precise, just like those tools did. Instead of worrying if AI will replace us, I believe we'll use it to improve how we work. This will actually create more job opportunities, especially in fields related to AI that are growing rapidly."
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: emmybd on May 04, 2024, 07:06:35 AM
Since the introduction of computer human involvement in the workplace have gradually been declining and it has further aggravated with the introduction of robot and now AI. As the technology is improving day by day people are getting more and more dependent on technology and this trend will continue in the future. In future robots will be a lot more powerful than human beings.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Gurujebs on May 04, 2024, 08:08:28 AM
Since the introduction of computer human involvement in the workplace have gradually been declining and it has further aggravated with the introduction of robot and now AI. As the technology is improving day by day people are getting more and more dependent on technology and this trend will continue in the future. In future robots will be a lot more powerful than human beings.

I thought computer and anything that involves automation are going to make our work easier and faster and everyone is happy doing that. Imagine having to use typewriter to do print a large document in 2024, that is going to be ridiculous even though we still have some institutions that use it for some specific work, the future has to be improved.

My only concern is the abuse of this artificial intelligence that are purposely designed to help the humanity and not the other way round. I could remember how people are using AI image and video to do scams and fraud people by impersonating individuals, this is wrong and need to be put to scrutiny.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on May 07, 2024, 10:08:20 AM
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I thought computer and anything that involves automation are going to make our work easier and faster and everyone is happy doing that. Imagine having to use typewriter to do print a large document in 2024, that is going to be ridiculous even though we still have some institutions that use it for some specific work, the future has to be improved.

My only concern is the abuse of this artificial intelligence that are purposely designed to help the humanity and not the other way round. I could remember how people are using AI image and video to do scams and fraud people by impersonating individuals, this is wrong and need to be put to scrutiny.

In this case, we all have to come to terms with one fact - absolutely all technologies for improving life, invented by man, are also used by man to create problems for man ! It sounds strange, but if you check - it is a fact. Which simply must be recognized and accordingly develop some mechanisms to reduce the risks of possible development of negative scenarios
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: Legion on May 08, 2024, 02:24:04 PM
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I thought computer and anything that involves automation are going to make our work easier and faster and everyone is happy doing that. Imagine having to use typewriter to do print a large document in 2024, that is going to be ridiculous even though we still have some institutions that use it for some specific work, the future has to be improved.

My only concern is the abuse of this artificial intelligence that are purposely designed to help the humanity and not the other way round. I could remember how people are using AI image and video to do scams and fraud people by impersonating individuals, this is wrong and need to be put to scrutiny.

In this case, we all have to come to terms with one fact - absolutely all technologies for improving life, invented by man, are also used by man to create problems for man ! It sounds strange, but if you check - it is a fact. Which simply must be recognized and accordingly develop some mechanisms to reduce the risks of possible development of negative scenarios
Is it possible that it will become waste that will pollute the world? because we know that all human discoveries or creations will definitely have a detrimental impact and it will all probably be covered up so that not many people know about it and they think the amount of supply is very unlimited and will not have any bad effects in the future.
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: DrBeer on May 08, 2024, 10:24:24 PM
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I thought computer and anything that involves automation are going to make our work easier and faster and everyone is happy doing that. Imagine having to use typewriter to do print a large document in 2024, that is going to be ridiculous even though we still have some institutions that use it for some specific work, the future has to be improved.

My only concern is the abuse of this artificial intelligence that are purposely designed to help the humanity and not the other way round. I could remember how people are using AI image and video to do scams and fraud people by impersonating individuals, this is wrong and need to be put to scrutiny.

In this case, we all have to come to terms with one fact - absolutely all technologies for improving life, invented by man, are also used by man to create problems for man ! It sounds strange, but if you check - it is a fact. Which simply must be recognized and accordingly develop some mechanisms to reduce the risks of possible development of negative scenarios
Is it possible that it will become waste that will pollute the world? because we know that all human discoveries or creations will definitely have a detrimental impact and it will all probably be covered up so that not many people know about it and they think the amount of supply is very unlimited and will not have any bad effects in the future.

If I understood the question correctly - most technological processes directly or indirectly pollute the environment.  What is now called "AI" - requires a lot of computing power... Then it's simple - more computing power = more electricity consumption. The only question is how this consumption will grow and how it will be covered? Controlled thermonuclear fusion, in the industrial version, is still far away. The most available sources of electricity are now nuclear power plants and thermal power plants.  You can draw your own conclusions
Title: Re: Workers are in danger because of AI?
Post by: electronicash on May 08, 2024, 10:39:40 PM
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I thought computer and anything that involves automation are going to make our work easier and faster and everyone is happy doing that. Imagine having to use typewriter to do print a large document in 2024, that is going to be ridiculous even though we still have some institutions that use it for some specific work, the future has to be improved.

My only concern is the abuse of this artificial intelligence that are purposely designed to help the humanity and not the other way round. I could remember how people are using AI image and video to do scams and fraud people by impersonating individuals, this is wrong and need to be put to scrutiny.

In this case, we all have to come to terms with one fact - absolutely all technologies for improving life, invented by man, are also used by man to create problems for man ! It sounds strange, but if you check - it is a fact. Which simply must be recognized and accordingly develop some mechanisms to reduce the risks of possible development of negative scenarios
Is it possible that it will become waste that will pollute the world? because we know that all human discoveries or creations will definitely have a detrimental impact and it will all probably be covered up so that not many people know about it and they think the amount of supply is very unlimited and will not have any bad effects in the future.

If I understood the question correctly - most technological processes directly or indirectly pollute the environment.  What is now called "AI" - requires a lot of computing power... Then it's simple - more computing power = more electricity consumption. The only question is how this consumption will grow and how it will be covered? Controlled thermonuclear fusion, in the industrial version, is still far away. The most available sources of electricity are now nuclear power plants and thermal power plants.  You can draw your own conclusions

there were already industrial robots on the assembly lines, all it needs is an AI brain and it can already work on its own. just imagine if these AIs does have a brain on how to repair themselves and produce more of themselves and think of their security and survival. they are going to secure themselves and most probably will want to have their own military robots :)   but this must be too far ahead of time.

so far the chatGPT is already useful for writers and related jobs. i remember there was a protest about the use of chatGPT i think a year ago.