Don't reply to low-quality topics, report them to moderator

[MrSpasybo]

Recently I've seen the appearance of many new low-quality topics:
+ Include only 1-2 simple sentences.
+ Do not provide any useful information.
+ Do not have any personal opinions.
+ Do not suggest any problems or require discussion from forum members.

I do not list them to protect the topic owner's information.

I think this situation comes from 2 possibilities:
+ New member want to increase the number of Activity (topics + comments) to rank-up quickly.
+ Some members misunderstand that Points are a necessary condition for rank-up, while temporarily only new topics can create Points^[1].

I would like to repeat: Rank does not depend on Points, so members can still rank up normally without being affected by Points.

Moderators can send all low-quality topics to Forum Trash, but when there are high-quality comments from other members in that topic, things get more complicated. At least for me: I don't want to waste the value in other members' comments. When I send combo topic + comments to Trash, Activity and Rank of many members will be affected, even lower their results in the signature campaigns they are participating in.

>> So if you find out a new low-quality topic, please:
+ Do not comment on that topic.
+ Report to Moderator, you can find this button in the lower right corner of the topic. Enter comment: "low-quality topic".
+ I do not recommend giving Negative Karma to topic owners, especially when they are new members with little experience. I don't want to hurt anyone.
[1] Points Only For Topics - For 1 week

[Jokers]

Oh, I understand you so well! Totally pointless topic definitely worth deleting and has much better reply in it... Sometimes it doesn't prevent topic from deletion...

I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+

[Freemind]

@MrSpasybo what you say makes a lot of sense, it has happened to me on several occasions, I have not deleted threads because of the great responses, even though the original thread was pure garbage. In any case, users who open threads with LPQ do not care if other users read or comment on their threads, since all they want is to increase the number of posts.

[yahoo62278]

Even if people reply to a low quality topic or post and prevent the thread from being deleted, users can still report the OP and get the ball rolling on potential consequences if the user keeps making low quality posts.

I don't feel it's bad for users to post on a low quality topic all the time either as the person who replies may be adding missing info or helpful info to make the topic gain some relevance. So those who read the OP may be confused but gain some understanding or clarity when reading replies. Make sense?

[robelneo]

I remember posting on one newbie post that has - karma with a marked watched It's a one-liner thread but it's asking for something that I am compelled to reply to because on Bitcointalk you can reply even to almost everything it replies at your own risk, and just add valuable info or correct what OP posted, but if it's encouraged not to do so, then I stop from replying from those threads.

[Cantsay]

I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+

It is a great suggestion but the issue now is “will users really stop responding to low quality posts?”.

You know it’s more easier for some people to reply to low quality content and complete their signature post quota since all they have to do is make reply that are not that constructive - we faced similar issues in gambling board in Bitcointalk (still on going) and despite all the warnings users still respond to duplicate threads or one that has nothing significant to be discussed.

[examplens]

I agree with everything the OP wrote. Maybe this should be the first article that newbies read before registering.

Oh, I understand you so well! Totally pointless topic definitely worth deleting and has much better reply in it... Sometimes it doesn't prevent topic from deletion...

I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+

What do you suggest on how to deal with useless posts in ANN of a service? Where the user writes a pointless post because he is in the signature campaign of that service. At the same time, the same user has a high rank, a lot of karma points, activity etc...

[PX-Z]

When I send combo topic + comments to Trash, Activity and Rank of many members will be affected...

Is there way to describe how rank and activity are affected, like calculations of points, etc? If this the case the Trash board should be limited to you mods and admin because we can certainly see anything there and you can still reply on the thread that was moved there or even create a new topic there which doesn't make sense.

...even lower their results in the signature campaigns they are participating in.

What does this mean.
And what could be lowered

[Yamane_Keto]

There is no clear definition of low-quality topics, and it is impossible to manage any forum with zero spam, but trying to reduce spam to the minimum possible is best. if these posts are paid, it is better to report them to the campaign manager and Report to Moderator, but if they are form newbie, it is better to take them according to their wording.

Strictness with beginners' posts is a problem. I have stopped participating in many forums because they ban beginners before instructing them on the rules of the service.

[Jokers]

I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+

It is a great suggestion but the issue now is “will users really stop responding to low quality posts?”.

You know it’s more easier for some people to reply to low quality content and complete their signature post quota since all they have to do is make reply that are not that constructive - we faced similar issues in gambling board in Bitcointalk (still on going) and despite all the warnings users still respond to duplicate threads or one that has nothing significant to be discussed.

There is a risk that entire topic will be deleted with all their replies which they made for the campaign, or the topic can be moved to some section where posts are not counted for the campaign. So better for them not to do so.

What do you suggest on how to deal with useless posts in ANN of a service? Where the user writes a pointless post because he is in the signature campaign of that service. At the same time, the same user has a high rank, a lot of karma points, activity etc...

Not an easy question. Usually I rely more on the project representatives who manage their topics and I delete only totally pointless posts or something violating other rules. When there is obviously shilling, sometimes I write a post about that in the topic. In other cases I prefer not to interfere, but... it depends...

[examplens]

Not an easy question. Usually I rely more on the project representatives who manage their topics and I delete only totally pointless posts or something violating other rules. When there is obviously shilling, sometimes I write a post about that in the topic. In other cases I prefer not to interfere, but... it depends...

Yes, that's how I acted. I tried to have a fair discussion, but it kept coming back to writing nonsense, so I gave up.
The problem is that such a user will not recognize his mistake, he will even be rewarded through a signature campaign, so just an additional reason to think that his posts are of high quality. Even when it comes from a higher-ranked user, it is an irreparable situation.

[dkbit98]

Show me one member who never replied to a low-quality post in his life
Reporting posts like this would be best, but some low-quality posts strangely attract lot of attention from other members.
When I notice one member who repeats posting crap than I usually report and ignore him.

[Igebotz]

Show me one member who never replied to a low-quality post in his life
Reporting posts like this would be best, but some low-quality posts strangely attract lot of attention from other members.
When I notice one member who repeats posting crap than I usually report and ignore him.

Personally, I try to lock low quality topics as soon as possible before new replies come up on my local board; this saves me a lot of time watching the topic and deleting low-quality posts. Low-quality posts are heaven for spammers.

Are you going to count a warning comment as a reply? Because most of my responses to low-quality topics are either links to other related topics or warning comments before locking the thread.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is a very good call, and one that I believe should be spread out all through the boards on this forum, since some, or should I rather say, most users, are not active on this forum related board, and as such, they won't get hold of this information.
I would also suggest that the admin place this call as an announcement to the general forum users on the home page of the forum, like he did with the teleporting and the ALTT distribution announcement, this way, this information will reach a greater number of the forum users, much better than just having it limited here alone as not every user comes around here.

[Igebotz]

This is a very good call, and one that I believe should be spread out all through the boards on this forum, since some, or should I rather say, most users, are not active on this forum related board, and as such, they won't get hold of this information.
I would also suggest that the admin place this call as an announcement to the general forum users on the home page of the forum, like he did with the teleporting and the ALTT distribution announcement, this way, this information will reach a greater number of the forum users, much better than just having it limited here alone as not every user comes around here.

There is no default welcome message for new users while signing up like we have on Bitcointalk (when I signed up) , maybe that could be the perfect page to link this post. IMO