I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.
Everyone surely wants to see higher payment rates but please write anything else as your suggestions except payment.
Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.
I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.
That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.
When they increase the number of paid posts then users who consistently make 30 posts a week will try their best to make 50 posts or week in order to get a little higher payment.
That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.
With that kind of suggestion, budget is needed to take in consideration too. If majority wants improvement, then being active here with 2-4 posts a day is enough to make this forum improve. Forum improvements won't happen 2-3 months. It should be at least 6 months of comparison of the old stats, even in 2 months people see improvements.
Later on i will give stats of forum's activity, karma, posting, etc. with the one i'm developing in connection of the telegram bot.
That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.I also agree with you, increasing paid posts to 50 or 60 per week will lead to complete chaos and everyone will try to write to increase their weekly payment.
With that kind of suggestion, budget is needed to take in consideration too. If majority wants improvement, then being active here with 2-4 posts a day is enough to make this forum improve. Forum improvements won't happen 2-3 months. It should be at least 6 months of comparison of the old stats, even in 2 months people see improvements.
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.This is worst idea ever :P
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.This is worst idea ever :P
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.
The current post counts is playing in between 25-30 as of this moment on which i would say that it would be understandable that those campaigns would be needing upI think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.This is worst idea ever :P
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.
If signature campaigns make the average weekly posts 30, you will find that most members will make 20 to 40 posts. If the same campaign increases it to 50, you will find that the average has shifted to 30 to 60. the higher number of paid posts will force more to post, but it is difficult to do weekly 50 High quality posts, many of your posts will turn into a spam.I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.
Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.This is worst idea ever :P
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.
Yeah, I like the idea of having this new thread, which can enable members to have a general discussion about any paid campaign on the forum, unlike the first topic you created, which to me should just be a thread for any current and latest updates about signatures for running campaigns, ending campaigns, etc.
what about allowing us to use the ref program link?
This is worst idea ever :PIt's not the worst idea trust me, if you remember Mixero campaign on Bitcointalk, then you will understand that this idea was working back then and it was a good one. Though, the amount paid per post on that forum was way high than on this forum for the posts but none of the members were making spam posts, in fact they were putting their best efforts to make those extra posts.
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.
If signature campaigns make the average weekly posts 30, you will find that most members will make 20 to 40 posts. If the same campaign increases it to 50, you will find that the average has shifted to 30 to 60. the higher number of paid posts will force more to post, but it is difficult to do weekly 50 High quality posts, many of your posts will turn into a spam.Even if a manager makes the maximum weekly paid posts to 50 I believe a few members will manage to make that number of posts without spamming. I believe the maximum number of paid posts should get increased but the minimum should remain the same.
25 posts as a maximum is a good limit, and I don’t know why 30 is the average here.
It's not the worst idea trust me, if you remember Mixero campaign on Bitcointalk, then you will understand that this idea was working back then and it was a good one. Though, the amount paid per post on that forum was way high than on this forum for the posts but none of the members were making spam posts, in fact they were putting their best efforts to make those extra posts.
I didn't said that it would be compulsory to make 40, 50, or 60 posts, I just said that maximum paid posts should be increased from current 30 to 40, 50 or possibly 60. The minimum posts still should be around 20 posts or whatever a user can post but the maximum paid posts should be increased.
We can all agree that things can not be the same here as in bitcointalk forum.For sure those amounts could neither be a
I want to see more quality members here but for that you need to have higher payment and better terms, it is as simple as that.
And maybe current campaign services could share information what results they have since they joined altcoinstalks forum.
You have a point it could work well when managers are only taking in trusted posters and are ready to boot out spammersYes, that's what I was trying to say, good posters would never ever make spam posts and even if they get paid for less posts but still they will keep up the quality of the posts. Some users who are good posters would manage to make even 40-50 posts easily by devoting more time on this forum. They don't really have to post spam in order to get paid for that.
Paying for 50 or 60 posts is an introduction to spamfest. And such posts will certainly be of lower quality, so you will then receive a payment rate of $0.5 or even less, per post.It won't be introduction of spamfest if managers accept trusted posters. If someone has to spam then that user doesn't need to make 50-60 posts even 10 posts would be enough to create spam on a forum but the users who who understand the importance of quality posts will not spam even if they make 50, 60, or 80 posts a week.
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.It's not about having an increased number of paid posts, is about how quality are the posts made. What campaign managers want are quality posts.
Asking for an increased number of posts from 30-60 per week is not a good idea if am to say, because it will attract spam in the forum. People will post for nothing's sake just to meet up for weekly post counts without being constructive in the posts they make. Remember, the majority of people teleported their account here and also in another forum promoting a signature paid campaign. Asking them to post 60 here, coupled with the post they made in another forum will be way too much for them to take up per week.
How do you see the fact that three campaigns have already been paused? At the moment I don't see it as too catastrophic but if I see another one put on hold I'm going to start thinking that the sponsors are not getting a sufficiently profitable return on investment. If things stay as they are and we hook up with the bull market, I think new campaigns will come to the forum, but one more step in the other direction and it looks black.The best thing would be in meantime is to be more empty slots created for each project ,in that way everything get in faster movement for promotion development and so for people that are long waiting for slot for them to get open.
The best thing would be in meantime is to be more empty slots created for each project ,in that way everything get in faster movement for promotion development and so for people that are long waiting for slot for them to get open.
The best thing would be in meantime is to be more empty slots created for each project ,in that way everything get in faster movement for promotion development and so for people that are long waiting for slot for them to get open.
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How do you see the fact that three campaigns have already been paused? At the moment I don't see it as too catastrophic but if I see another one put on hold I'm going to start thinking that the sponsors are not getting a sufficiently profitable return on investment. If things stay as they are and we hook up with the bull market, I think new campaigns will come to the forum, but one more step in the other direction and it looks black.
These are not bounty campaigns where you pay with worthless tokens but with real money. There is a big difference because, in campaigns with useless tokens, you can promise everything unlimited, while with real money it is coordinated with the budget.
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.The normal post rate is 25 post per week so that the participants can produce quality posts and anything more that, campaign managers should expect low quality posts from the participants because the pressure for them to meet up the quota is high. And the only way to create more traffic in this forum is to keep the post in 25 per week and and increase the pay to $70-80 and above and just like bitcointalk then you will see more people will come here to participate. That your idea is not really good. 50-60 post, my brother that is not easy oh. Assuming you are participating in signature campaign for the both sides. That will be heavy work load for you.
How do you see the fact that three campaigns have already been paused? At the moment I don't see it as too catastrophic but if I see another one put on hold I'm going to start thinking that the sponsors are not getting a sufficiently profitable return on investment. If things stay as they are and we hook up with the bull market, I think new campaigns will come to the forum, but one more step in the other direction and it looks black.
I'm more concerned about all the active campaigns being mixers and no new campaigns, especially for other services are coming in. There are many gambling sites and crypto-casinos that are supporting multiple different cryptos, so this forum would seem like a good place to advertise on, and yet, we don't have a single one.
Maybe it's not just the cost and return on investment, but maybe the audience in this forum is still not big enough for them to even bother.
Mixers had no choice, they got pushed off the btctalk and there aren't that many alternatives for them.These are not bounty campaigns where you pay with worthless tokens but with real money. There is a big difference because, in campaigns with useless tokens, you can promise everything unlimited, while with real money it is coordinated with the budget.
Exactly. They can't just multiply spots. The more people they are willing to take onboard = lower payment per person.
That's unless they're happy with the results and can slowly and gradually increase headcount until they reach the optimal number.
The traffic here is gradually growing and I believe it would get to a point where the publicity of this platform would be very visible and big names would have no option than wanting to identify with the platform.
Lastly for the campaigns paused or put on hold, I had the opportunity to do a little check on them and I noticed they are entirely new to the market which means they would need a strong budget to compete with the already existing ones which means they would have to go extra miles to doing their publicity. It is likely they are out of budget or something else which can not be disclosed.
The traffic here is gradually growing and I believe it would get to a point where the publicity of this platform would be very visible and big names would have no option than wanting to identify with the platform.
I'm sure the traffic will go further up when we have another bull run on Bitcoin and altcoins.Lastly for the campaigns paused or put on hold, I had the opportunity to do a little check on them and I noticed they are entirely new to the market which means they would need a strong budget to compete with the already existing ones which means they would have to go extra miles to doing their publicity. It is likely they are out of budget or something else which can not be disclosed.
Good to know, I didn't even think about checking the history of those businesses.
If that's true, it's possible they paused to evaluate results, re-think their strategies, costs and budget and maybe they'll be back eventually.
As far as we know, if a service is "paused" or "on-hold", that doesn't necessarily mean they opted out of running campaigns for good.
Nobody comments on the new casino campaign that has been launched on the forum? Well, technically speaking it starts tomorrow and is still accepting applications. It's good news, the first casino campaign on the forum, and I just saw yahoo62278 in the chat saying he's going to bring one more casino campaign to the forum, and maybe 2. I think it's logical that with the bull market there will start to be more campaigns.
The main reason on why this forum did get some sudden traffic is because;Nobody comments on the new casino campaign that has been launched on the forum? Well, technically speaking it starts tomorrow and is still accepting applications. It's good news, the first casino campaign on the forum, and I just saw yahoo62278 in the chat saying he's going to bring one more casino campaign to the forum, and maybe 2. I think it's logical that with the bull market there will start to be more campaigns.
Finally! That's a good news indeed.
Nice to see that campaigns are no longer limited only to mixers, that can't advertise on btctalk. I guess credit should be given to managers who pointed their clients to this forum.
This forum seems ideal to all casinos supporting multiple cryptos. The only concern may be that the traffic is not high enough to even bother, but looking at how many teleported members are there and on the number of views topics have, I think it's clear that activity has increased a lot in the recent time.
Link to bons. io campaign for those interested:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318616.0
I'm more concerned about all the active campaigns being mixers and no new campaigns, especially for other services are coming in.Now we have a new casino campaign showing up so you don't have to be concerned anymore ;)
Now we have a new casino campaign showing up so you don't have to be concerned anymore ;)
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The main reason on why this forum did get some sudden traffic is because;
Teleport ranks + signature campaign
Both things are the reason on why this forum is getting some attention now.
I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.This is worst idea ever :P
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.
Looking at their campaign, it seems to be a trial run. They only have 9 participants (excluding manager) which is much fewer than most of other campaigns (i.e. coinomize currently has 55). They also have tracker links, so will be able to monitor traffic coming in from this forum. Interested to see how it'll play out and will they decide to expand the campaign.If I was a manager of some campaign I would choose smaller number of members, but I would make sure they are all quality posters and I would increase payrate.
Nevertheless, it's a good sign.
I also agree we must concentrate on quality rather than quantity, we will eventually get a good rate since the increase in activity happened just at the start of this year and many more members of Bitcointalk are teleporting here I am satisfied with the rate I just hope I can keep up and many more platforms will pick Altcoinstalks fort their promotion.I think standards are a bit higher in bitcointalk forum and there is more quality discussion there, at least for now.
I want to see popular casinos launching campaigns here if they launch a long-term campaign here then we can say that Altcoinstalk really level up
Looking at their campaign, it seems to be a trial run. They only have 9 participants (excluding manager) which is much fewer than most of other campaigns (i.e. coinomize currently has 55). They also have tracker links, so will be able to monitor traffic coming in from this forum. Interested to see how it'll play out and will they decide to expand the campaign.If I was a manager of some campaign I would choose smaller number of members, but I would make sure they are all quality posters and I would increase payrate.
Nevertheless, it's a good sign.
I don't see any point in hiring spammers and people who write low value posts and don't contribute anything to forum conversation.I also agree we must concentrate on quality rather than quantity, we will eventually get a good rate since the increase in activity happened just at the start of this year and many more members of Bitcointalk are teleporting here I am satisfied with the rate I just hope I can keep up and many more platforms will pick Altcoinstalks fort their promotion.I think standards are a bit higher in bitcointalk forum and there is more quality discussion there, at least for now.
I want to see popular casinos launching campaigns here if they launch a long-term campaign here then we can say that Altcoinstalk really level up
Sponsors and managers are probably thinking that if something is working they should not change it and experiment.
While you discuss quality of posters and suggest quality over quantity tactics, you have forgotten about such thing as variety. The most members are in campaign, the more different opinions they could have. What is the point of having only 5-10 members, when half of them discuss one and the same thing, have similar vision of things. They make discussion boring or it will go to a dead end someday. While 20+ members can build a real discussion between each other as minimum. It will attract more attention to topic, search engines, signature and project recognition.I think this is a bunch of bollocks.
You probably know how advertisement work only from one side of the coin. From your point of view, you would better hire one person, who would post wall of text and pay him, then instead hire 3 or 5 members who would make brand more noticeable.
Then maybe it is better to disband all participants, choose only one and pay him $500-1000 per week, just because he most famous poster on the whole forum and grab all the attention?
Then this turns into a bunch of people (those selected quality posters) only talking among each others. How that is going to help project?
Then this turns into a bunch of people (those selected quality posters) only talking among each others. How that is going to help project?
I have the impression that you are contradicting yourself for a moment, but can you give an example of what I quoted above?
Payments were sent to everyone, there are no open spots this week. I did add a new rule that 1 post MUST be in the winz.io announcement thread. I asked if it was allowed before deciding to add the rule, and it is. This isn't bitcointalk. Failure to follow this new rule will result in no payment.
What do you think about this new rule introduced by yahoo62278?I personally believe that users should want to help a service that has hired them. Apparently, users do not care who hired them though, only thing that they care about is getting paid.Payments were sent to everyone, there are no open spots this week. I did add a new rule that 1 post MUST be in the winz.io announcement thread. I asked if it was allowed before deciding to add the rule, and it is. This isn't bitcointalk. Failure to follow this new rule will result in no payment.
I've been hesitating whether to comment in the Altcoinstalks Signature Campaign Observer thread, but I think this one is better suited for that matter.
Now the question I have is whether this will induce a copycat effect in the other campaigns, and whether it will lead to spamming the Anns of the services being advertised. I'm not saying it will but it's certainly a possibility.
I myself have commented on the Ann thead of the service I advertise but if I had to do it compulsorily at least 1 time a week to get paid, I'm not saying I would shitpost but surely what I would say would be more generic. Let's multiply that by all the members of the campaign.
What do you think about this new rule introduced by yahoo62278?Payments were sent to everyone, there are no open spots this week. I did add a new rule that 1 post MUST be in the winz.io announcement thread. I asked if it was allowed before deciding to add the rule, and it is. This isn't bitcointalk. Failure to follow this new rule will result in no payment.
I hear you guys, but need to try something new. If it looks shitty and non organic, then I can always remove the rule.
I hear you guys, but need to try something new. If it looks shitty and non organic, then I can always remove the rule.
I think you may rethink once again before making that rule a compulsory one. I also agree with the users who said that such rule could lead to spamming on an announcement thread and nothing else.
However, instead of making it a rule, you may make it a suggestion to the applicants of the campaign as that won't be a forced thing and users who get paid from a campaign might spend sometime on their announcement thread willingly.
➥ By submitting your application, you agree that once accepted you will test UniJoin and post your review.
I agree with examplens, this could be positive in the sense that it would avoid the situation we had on the other forum in the Sinbad campaign, where a participant asked "what is a BTC mixer" after several months of running campaign..
For example, for participation in Unijoin's signature campaign, icopress added a rule that all participants are expected to test Unijoin's service at least once.
The campaign lasts 3+ months, can you check how many participants of their signature campaign tested the service and wrote a review? I found only 3 out of 18 members.
And there are others who have not explicitly written a review but you can see in comments that they are familiar with the site, such as paid2, who is very involved, but there are also others who although they have not written a review participate in the thread and you can see that they know what they are talking about.
➥ By submitting your application, you agree that once accepted you will test UniJoin and post your review.
If I were to act as a neutral visitor to the forum, I recognized only three reviews that would help me get a clearer picture of what this service offers.
Even if the standards were lowered and this solution accepted as satisfactory, it is still only 6 out of 18 participants even made an effort in 100 days of this campaign.
To be clear, I have nothing against anyone from the campaign, nor is it my business, but if I were the manager, I would not be satisfied with this kind of relationship.
I agree with the idea, a deal is a deal, while at the same time I think that as long as the overall engagement is good, the manager should probably be satisfied.
There are many different things that can impact the success of a campaign. For me the only question should be: when a manager is asking for reviews/mandatory ANN posts, is it for the sake of the reviews/posts or to try to give a maximal engagement in the said campaign?
I see that my comment has sparked an interesting debate, and it has also made me know some curious anecdote like this oneThis was one time post, and I am not going to write there all the time.
Although I would act differently, this is a completely legitimate condition for participating in the campaign. (Unlike Btt, it is not forbidden to set such a condition in the campaign here)I agree that it's not forbidden on this forum and lies under the rights of a campaign manager but what's the benefit of something that could lead to more spamming? If you are active on Bitcointalk reputation board then you might have idea about the thoughts of the members regarding Stake's signature campaign.
I agree with the idea, a deal is a deal, while at the same time I think that as long as the overall engagement is good, the manager should probably be satisfied.
I think so. What would be the other way? Kick 12 to 15 participants out of the campaign? If things go as well as they seem to be going, it would be crazy to do that.
I think the manager values this more that people have made a review on page 6 of a thread that is on page 16 today, and that a supposedly neutral visitor of the forum will try to find it.
Although, the Stake's manager allow the users to make more posts so the platform will have more visibility, and the participants of that campaign are bombarding gambling board with their posts.
Why not? I've seen big purges in the campaign before.
In which one? Not on Unijoin.io one as fas as I can remember in ATT. Not of the order of more than 50% of the members of the campaign. Also, I would say that if icopress was not happy with what you say, before taking action he would issue a reminder/warning in the signature campaign thread.
In 6 days it will be exactly 10 years since I registered on Bitcointalk. I must say that I have seen many different things when we talk about signature campaigns.
If we ignore the size and payment rate, why do you think that all other conditions should be different just because this is an Altt forum and not a Btt? In the end, signature campaigns always have the same goal, building and promoting the brand.
I think so. What would be the other way? Kick 12 to 15 participants out of the campaign? If things go as well as they seem to be going, it would be crazy to do that.
Why not? I've seen big purges in the campaign before.
I hear you guys, but need to try something new. If it looks shitty and non organic, then I can always remove the rule.You have this rule in one or more of your campaigns? :o
I personally believe that users should want to help a service that has hired them. Apparently, users do not care who hired them though, only thing that they care about is getting paid.
Do I want to encourage spam in the announcement threads? No, I want to encourage engagement. I want to encourage users to actually visit the site and look around. I want users to say some negative or positive things about the company to help them improve.
I hear you guys, but need to try something new. If it looks shitty and non organic, then I can always remove the rule.
I would like to open another point of discussion here. How do you think converting karma into tokens can influence campaigns? If it is a metric that has been used so far to evaluate candidates, it should be less taken into account if at all. Because someone has a lot of karma they can convert it to tokens and become 0 karma.
I also see that my campaign manager notes in the spreadsheet the evolution of the karma we are earning weekly. I don't know if this will continue to make sense if people start exchanging their karma for tokens on a massive scale.
In my case, I don't think I'm going to do it, because I think it's going to be pennies.
Not disputing your thoughts 1 bit. Normally I wouldn't even consider making a rule asking for a post in the announcement thread either, but when a campaign has ran for 3 weeks and has a total of 9 posts made in it during that 3 weeks.... It just showed me a I might consider couple different things, A. there is not enough traffic to bring campaigns to this forum and B. people just don't care to support the companies that might be renting their space.I personally believe that users should want to help a service that has hired them. Apparently, users do not care who hired them though, only thing that they care about is getting paid.
Do I want to encourage spam in the announcement threads? No, I want to encourage engagement. I want to encourage users to actually visit the site and look around. I want users to say some negative or positive things about the company to help them improve.
Hired them? Do you consider signature participants to be employees of the business they advertising?
I think the general agreement was that signature spaces were being hired, not participants themselves. But this is crossing into a different territory.
I do understand your logic, but this is effectively paying for bumping ANN threads, which is ethically dubious to say the least.
And we all know that people posting negative things about the service (e.g. pointing out higher house edge than that of competitors or criticising lack of transparency in disclosing house edge) will probably not be welcomed by the service being advertised, so you'll likely end up with astroturfing.I hear you guys, but need to try something new. If it looks shitty and non organic, then I can always remove the rule.
Fair enough. But I think if you have to force participants to post in ANN threads, it'll be non-organic by definition.
I can't find the admin's post, but I read it somewhere and I think that there is no conversion of karma points into ALTT tokens anymore, but only activity points.
Take this with a grain of salt because I can't find a reference (I guess it's not from the chatbox) but I am quite convinced of it.
I don't know if this will continue to make sense if people start exchanging their karma for tokens on a massive scale.
Honestly, when I barely see any activity in the gambling sections period, I wonder how to we keep gambling sites interested in advertising here?
I can't find the admin's post, but I read it somewhere and I think that there is no conversion of karma points into ALTT tokens anymore, but only activity points.
Take this with a grain of salt because I can't find a reference (I guess it's not from the chatbox) but I am quite convinced of it.
a switch back might be possible , still working on some issues.
but might allow karma to ALTT again
updated, rule valid again
If someone wishes to change their reputation into tokens, why shouldn't it still have sense?
I'll likely remove the rule after this week, but hopefully it opens up some eyes. Hopefully it makes users think about how thery might be of more help not only to their wallets, but to the idea of signature campaigns.That is a move in good direction.
(...) but when a campaign has ran for 3 weeks and has a total of 9 posts made in it during that 3 weeks.... It just showed me a I might consider couple different things, A. there is not enough traffic to bring campaigns to this forum and B. people just don't care to support the companies that might be renting their space.
If someone wishes to change their reputation into tokens, why shouldn't it still have sense?
I meant that it doesn't make sense that in that hypothetical case campaign managers would still use karma as a good metric to decide if you are a good poster or not, because you could be a great poster and have a 0 karma because you have converted.
I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.
Everyone surely wants to see higher payment rates but please write anything else as your suggestions except payment.
Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.
On bitcointalk, theymos has banned Jambler campaign yesterday (effective from April 22nd):Seems waiting will Jmbler moving their campaign to altcoinstalk forum? currently the had 24 active participants there with rate $4 per post, its mean get many participants in altcoinstalk forum has more lower rate than bitcointalk.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.msg63941099#msg63941099
So there's a chance another campaign will be moved to this forum.
I think they had ~24 participants and were the highest-paying campaign.
On bitcointalk, theymos has banned Jambler campaign yesterday (effective from April 22nd):Many people are expecting to see higher payrates in Altcoinstalks forum campaigns and maybe Jambler will make that happen if they continue with their signature campaign here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.msg63941099#msg63941099
So there's a chance another campaign will be moved to this forum.
Many people are expecting to see higher payrates in Altcoinstalks forum campaigns and maybe Jambler will make that happen if they continue with their signature campaign here.
It's more likely that the payrates will depend on activity on the forum and its traffic for long time, more than on which campaign is starting here. Even if they want to get some certain posters purposefully the overall forum activity impacts a lot. So those who are still without a sig and who want to get some in the future still can try to make some positive contributions so that the projects wanted to start more campaigns here. :)
It's more likely that the payrates will depend on activity on the forum and its traffic for long time, more than on which campaign is starting here. Even if they want to get some certain posters purposefully the overall forum activity impacts a lot. So those who are still without a sig and who want to get some in the future still can try to make some positive contributions so that the projects wanted to start more campaigns here. :)
Yes, well, but the way I see it, if that campaign were to come here and some of its members were to teleport too, it could only be positive for the forum, as they are generally members who write of a high quality.I think you have a valid point and I agree with it. The members at the campaign are some of the top quality posters, and if they teleport here to join that campaign then that could be beneficial for the forum.
It's more likely that the payrates will depend on activity on the forum and its traffic for long time, more than on which campaign is starting here. Even if they want to get some certain posters purposefully the overall forum activity impacts a lot. So those who are still without a sig and who want to get some in the future still can try to make some positive contributions so that the projects wanted to start more campaigns here. :)This is all connected with activity.
One quality member is worth more than ten family members with all their altaccounts from uncles, wifes and grandparents. ;D
You forget about separate accounts for goldfish, pet turtle and cat, they also want to say their own words about crypto on the forum! Unfortunately forum staff is cruel and tries to prevent pets from using our forum, it's only for human beings, with enough intelligence! ;DWhen someone think himself too smart and other too stupid then such things take place. That guy could literally prove that even pets in his home have accounts and they know how to write good articles about crypto currencies.
Well, so far we already have the Jambler.io's ANN thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320473.0)on the forum. We would expect a signature campaign to try to capture the best posters and maybe some more to teleport in. Let's hope this will be the case and contribute to further increase the quality and traffic of the forum.Several of their partners are already present here, I honestly don't think they will launch a signature campaign because they are already present here in marketing.
Well, so far we already have the Jambler.io's ANN thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320473.0)on the forum. We would expect a signature campaign to try to capture the best posters and maybe some more to teleport in. Let's hope this will be the case and contribute to further increase the quality and traffic of the forum.
I'm almost sure that the campaign will follow. I don't think they would bother to have presence in this forum with the ANN thread only. They have nothing to lose and no real alternatives.I think the same as you, but there is no need for them to rush things with new campaign, they are going to leave competition sweating a little and thinking about what could happen and when.
Yes, well, but the way I see it, if that campaign were to come here and some of its members were to teleport too, it could only be positive for the forum, as they are generally members who write of a high quality.I think we have seen them here, quality posters and campaign managers teleporting themselves here because of the campaigns that are been host or to be hosted.
Based up on my own observation on which this forum had been up for a while now, it is really just that this time it did really have that spike specially of teleported usersYes, well, but the way I see it, if that campaign were to come here and some of its members were to teleport too, it could only be positive for the forum, as they are generally members who write of a high quality.I think we have seen them here, quality posters and campaign managers teleporting themselves here because of the campaigns that are been host or to be hosted.
I think this forum has made a positive dimension since the arrival of mixer campaigns and the visitors that visits this forum is regularly increasing by day since January that campaigns are being launch here.
Currently, there should be five or more campaigns running in this forum and those campaigns project are getting the audience that needed their services they rendered
I think this forum has made a positive dimension since the arrival of mixer campaigns and the visitors that visits this forum is regularly increasing by day since January that campaigns are being launch here.I think you're right, the forum has made some growth in number of posts/members after the arrival of mixer campaigns, and admin has played his role by allowing teleportation of accounts from Bitcointalk to this forum.
Yeah, over time when the traffic has increased many other mixer campaigns that will be launched as the forum progresses with a lot of traffic. At least this forum has been known as the second most active forum where related topics of crypto are talked about.I think this forum has made a positive dimension since the arrival of mixer campaigns and the visitors that visits this forum is regularly increasing by day since January that campaigns are being launch here.I think you're right, the forum has made some growth in number of posts/members after the arrival of mixer campaigns, and admin has played his role by allowing teleportation of accounts from Bitcointalk to this forum.
This forum is no more a hidden forum in crypto community because it's the 2nd top forum for crypto users after Bitcointalk, and it's only because of the mixer campaigns. I think in those mixer campaigns Icopress has played a very important role by increasing the payrates of the members who are participating in the signature campaigns that are under his management.
I know the forum doesn't have similar kind of traffic like Bitcointalk but the amount he's paying to the participants of the campaigns is appreciate worthy. I hope that overtime other mixer campaigns and campaign managers will thinking about increasing the pay rates of the campaigns to make the rates more competitive.
At least this forum has been known as the second most active forum where related topics of crypto are talked about.Yes, this forum is the 2nd most visited forum for crypto related topics after Bitcointalk, and I believe it could have its own genre because of the mixers. The mixer campaigns and the reputed manager who brought those campaigns on this forum are appreciate worthy.
(...)Nah, let's not get so drastic ;D
Interesting times ahead of us here with signature campaigns, so everyone better improve quality of your posts ;)
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Yes, this forum is the 2nd most visited forum for crypto related topics after Bitcointalk, and I believe it could have its own genre because of the mixers.Yup, mixers simply don't have anywhere else to go. The only other alternatives are ads on crypto-related sites, but I think signatures work better.
If we look deep at that then Jambler.io isn't a mixer technically but now Bitcointalk has banned it as well because it allows others to create mixers.I haven't dived too deep into whether Jambler is or isn't a mixer. From the quick reading I did, I understand they do the mixing themselves but on behalf of their partners rather than individual customers.
Maybe I will disappoint you, but there are other places besides Btt and Altt where crypto users gather. More than half of currently known and active mixers are not present on any mentioned forum, but they still have their users.Yes, this forum is the 2nd most visited forum for crypto related topics after Bitcointalk, and I believe it could have its own genre because of the mixers.Yup, mixers simply don't have anywhere else to go. The only other alternatives are ads on crypto-related sites, but I think signatures work better.
Yup, mixers simply don't have anywhere else to go. The only other alternatives are ads on crypto-related sites, but I think signatures work better.Are you sure there are no other forums or places they can go to advertise their services?
What so you guys think is the best way for managers to pay weekly signature campaigns when bitcoin fees are so high?
If we promote a BTC service, payment should be done in BTC in my opinion. I know some people consider LTC for sig campaigns payments when fees are high,I also agree with your opinion, the payments should be done in BTC instead of any other cryptocurrency because here we are promoting a service which is for Bitcoin mixing, and that's why payment of such service should also be in Bitcoin.
From my side, I would prefer a monthly BTC payment instead of weekly.
If we promote a BTC service, payment should be done in BTC in my opinion. I know some people consider LTC for sig campaigns payments when fees are high,
From my side, I would prefer a monthly BTC payment instead of weekly.
I also agree with your opinion, the payments should be done in BTC instead of any other cryptocurrency because here we are promoting a service which is for Bitcoin mixing, and that's why payment of such service should also be in Bitcoin.
If we promote a BTC service, payment should be done in BTC in my opinion. I know some people consider LTC for sig campaigns payments when fees are high,Monthly payment in bitcoin would work better for me, but maybe this wont be the best for all campaigns and all members.
From my side, I would prefer a monthly BTC payment instead of weekly.
Are you sure there are no other forums or places they can go to advertise their services?Oh, I'm sure there are many, but this is the 2nd biggest crypto-forum, so if it's not big enough to be worth advertising here, then there's no point of moving to even less active places.
I have one crazy idea to get altcoinstalk forum more popular, by creating promotional campaign in bitcointalk forum ;D
I dont know if admin is interested in doing that, but they can create signatures and start with their accounts.
What do you guys think is the best way for managers to pay weekly signature campaigns when bitcoin fees are so high?
I'm sure there are many, but this is the 2nd biggest crypto-forum, so if it's not big enough to be worth advertising here, then there's no point of moving to even less active places.I believe you're right if they miss the 2nd most active crypto forum for advertising then what would they gain by advertising on forums where activity is far less than this forum.
Oh, I'm sure there are many, but this is the 2nd biggest crypto-forum, so if it's not big enough to be worth advertising here, then there's no point of moving to even less active places.
Ok but some other kind of places than crypto forums works too, for example forums or websites related to online privacy/OPSEC management, some on Tor network are very popular for example.
And there are many other way to do advertisement than forums, a simpler banner on the right static website can do miracles sometimes.
When there was a discussion about the ban on mixer promoting on BTT, some mixer representatives said that BTT was a good place for them to have a platform in the open net where to communicate with their clients or potential clients and where they can solve the problems their clients can have. So it is not just about advertising, it is about a place of interaction. BTT was traditional and useful for that, AltcoinsTalks is trying to be a new place for that. Let's see what result we'll get. :)
When there was a discussion about the ban on mixer promoting on BTT, some mixer representatives said that BTT was a good place for them to have a platform in the open net where to communicate with their clients or potential clients and where they can solve the problems their clients can have. So it is not just about advertising, it is about a place of interaction. BTT was traditional and useful for that, AltcoinsTalks is trying to be a new place for that. Let's see what result we'll get. :)I think they are still testing the ''waters''.
Oh, I'm sure there are many, but this is the 2nd biggest crypto-forum, so if it's not big enough to be worth advertising here, then there's no point of moving to even less active places.I am sure there are big darknet forums that have some promotion campaigns.
Haha, that's some outside-of-box thinking. I like the idea. They should do it even just for a laugh. They could start some low-budget campaign aimed for Senior members or below who can't find a place in any other campaign and just run it for a month or so and see if there's any effect.It can be free for start.
And, to be fair, if they approached it seriously and hit the right tone, i.e. emphasising that a lot of banned signature campaigns have moved here and that anyone can teleport their account, that could give quite good results.
Monthly payment in bitcoin would work better for me, but maybe this wont be the best for all campaigns and all members.
If we promote a BTC service, payment should be done in BTC in my opinion. I know some people consider LTC for sig campaigns payments when fees are high,I don't think the majority of forum members would go with the idea since there will be some members who would like to sell some part of their bitcoin payment to cater for themselves and family.
From my side, I would prefer a monthly BTC payment instead of weekly.
Even if they send it weekly we still won’t be able to receive it until there’s a drop in transaction fee so instead of allowing the payment to remain stock in mempool while not just allow campaign manager hold them and send at the end of the month. It might not be convenient for all members but thats still much better than the current situation that’s wasting sats.I think this is going to work better for everyone, members and campaign managers, but I didnt see any manager commenting if they are interested to make this changes happen.