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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: MrSpasybo on February 22, 2024, 06:49:03 PM
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Recently I've seen the appearance of many new low-quality topics:
+ Include only 1-2 simple sentences.
+ Do not provide any useful information.
+ Do not have any personal opinions.
+ Do not suggest any problems or require discussion from forum members.
I do not list them to protect the topic owner's information.
I think this situation comes from 2 possibilities:
+ New member want to increase the number of Activity (topics + comments) to rank-up quickly.
+ Some members misunderstand that Points are a necessary condition for rank-up, while temporarily only new topics can create Points[1].
I would like to repeat: Rank does not depend on Points, so members can still rank up normally without being affected by Points.
Moderators can send all low-quality topics to Forum Trash, but when there are high-quality comments from other members in that topic, things get more complicated. At least for me: I don't want to waste the value in other members' comments. When I send combo topic + comments to Trash, Activity and Rank of many members will be affected, even lower their results in the signature campaigns they are participating in.
>> So if you find out a new low-quality topic, please:
+ Do not comment on that topic.
+ Report to Moderator, you can find this button in the lower right corner of the topic. Enter comment: "low-quality topic".
+ I do not recommend giving Negative Karma to topic owners, especially when they are new members with little experience. I don't want to hurt anyone.
[1] Points Only For Topics - For 1 week (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317216.0)
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Oh, I understand you so well! Totally pointless topic definitely worth deleting and has much better reply in it... Sometimes it doesn't prevent topic from deletion...
I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+
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@MrSpasybo what you say makes a lot of sense, it has happened to me on several occasions, I have not deleted threads because of the great responses, even though the original thread was pure garbage. In any case, users who open threads with LPQ do not care if other users read or comment on their threads, since all they want is to increase the number of posts.
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Even if people reply to a low quality topic or post and prevent the thread from being deleted, users can still report the OP and get the ball rolling on potential consequences if the user keeps making low quality posts.
I don't feel it's bad for users to post on a low quality topic all the time either as the person who replies may be adding missing info or helpful info to make the topic gain some relevance. So those who read the OP may be confused but gain some understanding or clarity when reading replies. Make sense?
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I remember posting on one newbie post that has - karma with a marked watched It's a one-liner thread but it's asking for something that I am compelled to reply to because on Bitcointalk you can reply even to almost everything it replies at your own risk, and just add valuable info or correct what OP posted, but if it's encouraged not to do so, then I stop from replying from those threads.
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I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+
It is a great suggestion but the issue now is “will users really stop responding to low quality posts?”.
You know it’s more easier for some people to reply to low quality content and complete their signature post quota since all they have to do is make reply that are not that constructive - we faced similar issues in gambling board in Bitcointalk (still on going) and despite all the warnings users still respond to duplicate threads or one that has nothing significant to be discussed.
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I agree with everything the OP wrote. Maybe this should be the first article that newbies read before registering.
Oh, I understand you so well! Totally pointless topic definitely worth deleting and has much better reply in it... Sometimes it doesn't prevent topic from deletion...
I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+
What do you suggest on how to deal with useless posts in ANN of a service? Where the user writes a pointless post because he is in the signature campaign of that service. At the same time, the same user has a high rank, a lot of karma points, activity etc...
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When I send combo topic + comments to Trash, Activity and Rank of many members will be affected...
Is there way to describe how rank and activity are affected, like calculations of points, etc? If this the case the Trash board should be limited to you mods and admin because we can certainly see anything there and you can still reply on the thread that was moved there or even create a new topic there which doesn't make sense.
...even lower their results in the signature campaigns they are participating in.
What does this mean.
And what could be lowered
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There is no clear definition of low-quality topics, and it is impossible to manage any forum with zero spam, but trying to reduce spam to the minimum possible is best. if these posts are paid, it is better to report them to the campaign manager and Report to Moderator, but if they are form newbie, it is better to take them according to their wording.
Strictness with beginners' posts is a problem. I have stopped participating in many forums because they ban beginners before instructing them on the rules of the service.
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I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+
It is a great suggestion but the issue now is “will users really stop responding to low quality posts?”.
You know it’s more easier for some people to reply to low quality content and complete their signature post quota since all they have to do is make reply that are not that constructive - we faced similar issues in gambling board in Bitcointalk (still on going) and despite all the warnings users still respond to duplicate threads or one that has nothing significant to be discussed.
There is a risk that entire topic will be deleted with all their replies which they made for the campaign, or the topic can be moved to some section where posts are not counted for the campaign. So better for them not to do so.
What do you suggest on how to deal with useless posts in ANN of a service? Where the user writes a pointless post because he is in the signature campaign of that service. At the same time, the same user has a high rank, a lot of karma points, activity etc...
Not an easy question. Usually I rely more on the project representatives who manage their topics and I delete only totally pointless posts or something violating other rules. When there is obviously shilling, sometimes I write a post about that in the topic. In other cases I prefer not to interfere, but... it depends... ???
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Not an easy question. Usually I rely more on the project representatives who manage their topics and I delete only totally pointless posts or something violating other rules. When there is obviously shilling, sometimes I write a post about that in the topic. In other cases I prefer not to interfere, but... it depends... ???
Yes, that's how I acted. I tried to have a fair discussion, but it kept coming back to writing nonsense, so I gave up.
The problem is that such a user will not recognize his mistake, he will even be rewarded through a signature campaign, so just an additional reason to think that his posts are of high quality. Even when it comes from a higher-ranked user, it is an irreparable situation.
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Show me one member who never replied to a low-quality post in his life :)
Reporting posts like this would be best, but some low-quality posts strangely attract lot of attention from other members.
When I notice one member who repeats posting crap than I usually report and ignore him.
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Show me one member who never replied to a low-quality post in his life :)
Reporting posts like this would be best, but some low-quality posts strangely attract lot of attention from other members.
When I notice one member who repeats posting crap than I usually report and ignore him.
Personally, I try to lock low quality topics as soon as possible before new replies come up on my local board; this saves me a lot of time watching the topic and deleting low-quality posts. Low-quality posts are heaven for spammers.
Are you going to count a warning comment as a reply? ;D Because most of my responses to low-quality topics are either links to other related topics or warning comments before locking the thread.
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This is a very good call, and one that I believe should be spread out all through the boards on this forum, since some, or should I rather say, most users, are not active on this forum related board, and as such, they won't get hold of this information.
I would also suggest that the admin place this call as an announcement to the general forum users on the home page of the forum, like he did with the teleporting and the ALTT distribution announcement, this way, this information will reach a greater number of the forum users, much better than just having it limited here alone as not every user comes around here.
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This is a very good call, and one that I believe should be spread out all through the boards on this forum, since some, or should I rather say, most users, are not active on this forum related board, and as such, they won't get hold of this information.
I would also suggest that the admin place this call as an announcement to the general forum users on the home page of the forum, like he did with the teleporting and the ALTT distribution announcement, this way, this information will reach a greater number of the forum users, much better than just having it limited here alone as not every user comes around here.
There is no default welcome message for new users while signing up like we have on Bitcointalk (when I signed up) , maybe that could be the perfect page to link this post. IMO
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This is a very good call, and one that I believe should be spread out all through the boards on this forum, since some, or should I rather say, most users, are not active on this forum related board, and as such, they won't get hold of this information.
I would also suggest that the admin place this call as an announcement to the general forum users on the home page of the forum, like he did with the teleporting and the ALTT distribution announcement, this way, this information will reach a greater number of the forum users, much better than just having it limited here alone as not every user comes around here.
There is no default welcome message for new users while signing up like we have on Bitcointalk (when I signed up) , maybe that could be the perfect page to link this post. IMO
Well, you are right, but then, I don't think the op's message is directly for newbies, though I do believe it can also act as an encouragement to newbies to indeed, put more efforts in trying to create better posts with good quality, as doing so will give them a good standard, and as well, grant them a seemless upgrade from rank to rank.
If the op's message is actually going to be included in a welcome message to newbies just incase admin decides to create a welcome message, then I think some editing to the op's post to make more directed to newbies would be a good idea, for as it is currently, I think it's more directed to already established forum users.
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@MrSpasybo what you say makes a lot of sense, it has happened to me on several occasions, I have not deleted threads because of the great responses, even though the original thread was pure garbage. In any case, users who open threads with LPQ do not care if other users read or comment on their threads, since all they want is to increase the number of posts.
If the Op is in low quality and it has quality posts then the best way to handle such case is to lock the thread so that those posts will not be wasted or their to reduce their activities. And to avoid all that, what @@MrSpasybo said is the best, it is just to avoid shit post. And all those one line or two lines thread are creating by newcomers. This has happened to me in the other forum too. And luckily I posted more than the required number so I was landed on the exact number of the post count.
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Even if people reply to a low quality topic or post and prevent the thread from being deleted, users can still report the OP and get the ball rolling on potential consequences if the user keeps making low quality posts.
I don't feel it's bad for users to post on a low quality topic all the time either as the person who replies may be adding missing info or helpful info to make the topic gain some relevance. So those who read the OP may be confused but gain some understanding or clarity when reading replies. Make sense?
I'm not talking about topics that provide inaccurate statements or questions about an issue, I'm talking about topics that are of poor quality with the signs as I have presented.
I won't quote, I give an example:
Title: Bitcoin's potential is huge
Content: Bitcoin is Gold 2.0
I know that the assessment depends on each person, but to me, this is a low-quality topic and I will avoid replying on this topic. I will Report to Moderator, Moderator can send it to Forum Trash.
Is there way to describe how rank and activity are affected, like calculations of points, etc? If this the case the Trash board should be limited to you mods and admin because we can certainly see anything there and you can still reply on the thread that was moved there or even create a new topic there which doesn't make sense.
For example, according to the regulations on the number of Activities for each Rank[1], a member needs 1200 Activities to become a Legendary. Currently member ABC has 1205 Activities and his Rank is Legendary.
However, when the low-quality topic, where ABC has commented 10 times, is sent to Forum Trash, ABC will lose 10 Activities and only have 1205-10=1195 Activities, ABC's Rank returns to Hero Member.
The same thing happened when we rearranged the Forum's structure earlier this year[2].
Similarly, when ABC participated in the signature campaign, he created 30 valid posts during the week. But when 10 posts in low-quality topic are sent to Forum Trash, they will not be counted by the bounty manager and ABC will only receive rewards for 30-20=20 posts.
[1] Everything You Need To Know About Forum Ranks (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316199.0)
[2] Drop in rank or activity due to removal of some sections (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315022.0)
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I think that the blame falls primarily on the member who writes the first comment on a low-quality topic. Most often, when members see that someone has written the first post on the topic, posts begin to follow after the first post, even if the topic is of low quality.
Sometimes it happens that I see a low-quality topic, but there are many posts and some of them raise points that can be commented on or discussed, so I respond to the replies and not to the topic itself.
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Sometimes it happens that I see a low-quality topic, but there are many posts and some of them raise points that can be commented on or discussed, so I respond to the replies and not to the topic itself.
That's right, and that is a reason not to lock this topic is it wasn't decided to delete it. The opening post is just a start of a discussion, then it goes its own way.
And the idea to close the topic just because one post was of low quality looks strange. This idea comes again and again in different topics, but this is forum, this is not a bunch of blogs: we are talking to different people in different topics, and if this topic is not of some exact project there's not so much importance in who was the topic starter, just talk to other people, follow the thread of the discussion and enjoy the communication with others! ;)
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I'm still trying to determine what is considered a low value topic on this forum, so I haven't dared to use the report button yet, but there are definitely such topics and I try to avoid them. What I managed to understand from this topic is that such topics are actually deleted by sending them to the trash, which affects everyone who made their post in them, which certainly makes sense because it sends a message to those who participated in them.
From my experience on BTT low value topics are completely deleted only if there are several posts in them, otherwise they are locked and remain in the board where they were originally posted. I am more in favor of a stricter approach, because this sends a clear message to the initiator of the topic and to everyone who participates in it.
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If the Op is in low quality and it has quality posts then the best way to handle such case is to lock the thread so that those posts will not be wasted or their to reduce their activities. And to avoid all that, what @@MrSpasybo said is the best, it is just to avoid shit post. And all those one line or two lines thread are creating by newcomers. This has happened to me in the other forum too. And luckily I posted more than the required number so I was landed on the exact number of the post count.
I know how easy it is to lock the thread, but even if the OP is LQP, the rest of the conversation can provide good things and a productive debate. I don't think it's good to close the thread with a single LQP post, since after that bad post there may be many that are very good. I guess they are different ways of seeing things and that you have to put everything on a scale to achieve balance. Personally, when I see that the OP of a thread is not very good or is directly bad, I close it, but if there are posts that contribute something I leave it open.
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I know how easy it is to lock the thread, but even if the OP is LQP, the rest of the conversation can provide good things and a productive debate. I don't think it's good to close the thread with a single LQP post, since after that bad post there may be many that are very good. I guess they are different ways of seeing things and that you have to put everything on a scale to achieve balance. Personally, when I see that the OP of a thread is not very good or is directly bad, I close it, but if there are posts that contribute something I leave it open.
Yeah, to be honest, I don't want to delete or lock a topic that has very good quality comments. It's clearly a valuable thread for the community, it's just that it was started by low quality content. Usually, I just ignore and avoid comments instead of sending them to the Forum Trash. I have presented the reason above.
If that low quality topic doesn't have any comments, Moderators will easily decide to send them to Forum Trash and send a reminder to the OP.
Therefore: please avoid replying on low-quality topics. It is also an action to build AltcoinsTalks forum ^^
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There is this account that I am following recently and continues seeing creating low quality thread , I don't know if His target is to gain points or giving way for His alt accounts to have place to complete their post counts.
I have reported couple of His threads but dunno if being deleted or acted by the mods .
But with this thread , I will follow your advise and not to engage in that topic instead I will directly report that.
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There is this account that I am following recently and continues seeing creating low quality thread , I don't know if His target is to gain points or giving way for His alt accounts to have place to complete their post counts.
I have reported couple of His threads but dunno if being deleted or acted by the mods .
But with this thread , I will follow your advise and not to engage in that topic instead I will directly report that.
If you have an obvious case of spamming don't want for the mods- give the user -Karma. The -Karma system was created for such users, this way ability to rank up will be reduced and eventually all his points would be wiped.
You can also report such users on this thread https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62493.585
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There is this account that I am following recently and continues seeing creating low quality thread , I don't know if His target is to gain points or giving way for His alt accounts to have place to complete their post counts.
I have reported couple of His threads but dunno if being deleted or acted by the mods .
But with this thread , I will follow your advise and not to engage in that topic instead I will directly report that.
I believe that if no one comments on low-quality topics, and these topics are sent to Forum Trash, the topic creator will soon give up the wrong motivation. At the same time, Mods can warn topic creators about spam issues (I consider low-quality topics as spam to shill projects/promote/ref-links).
I also discourage members and Mods for negative Karma. AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum, I do not want to create a stressful atmosphere for anyone.
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I also discourage members and Mods for negative Karma. AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum, I do not want to create a stressful atmosphere for anyone.
Unfortunately it is impossible to be good for everyone. Trolls, spammers and all others who disrespect other users are making staying on the forum unpleasant for the majority of users. Choosing between most of users who are friendly and law-abiding and the total minority of abusers and cheaters, I'm okay with staying behind the first ones against the second ones. ::)
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I also discourage members and Mods for negative Karma. AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum, I do not want to create a stressful atmosphere for anyone.
Unfortunately it is impossible to be good for everyone. Trolls, spammers and all others who disrespect other users are making staying on the forum unpleasant for the majority of users. Choosing between most of users who are friendly and law-abiding and the total minority of abusers and cheaters, I'm okay with staying behind the first ones against the second ones. ::)
Being soft will create a more toxic environment for everyone. The best method to combat spammers is to give them as many spammer tags as possible, since this will eliminate any negative intents they may still have. The two spammers I reported on my local board vanished after they received the spammer tag. This is how you treat them.
Trolls are not harmful; there is always one or two trolls on a forum; they say crap, but most of the time they do not spam.
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I would like to repeat: Rank does not depend on Points, so members can still rank up normally without being affected by Points.
I did now know about it, as you said when you send a topic or comment to the trash section points and rank get affected which I also did not know. Thanks for this information. I also noticed people replying on old topics, but it is a little hard to distinguish which topic is low quality and which is not, because low-quality topics sometimes have valuable comments. As you also said, it becomes difficult in such situations.
>> So if you find out a new low-quality topic, please:
+ Do not comment on that topic.
+ Report to Moderator, you can find this button in the lower right corner of the topic. Enter comment: "low-quality topic".
+ I do not recommend giving Negative Karma to topic owners, especially when they are new members with little experience. I don't want to hurt anyone.
You are so humble to think of new members, as not so many members think about them, instead, treat them as boxing bad (which means try to roast them) Negative karma can become discouraging for new members, a slight warning notification might do the work to stop them making the same mistake. From now on I will definitely report such comments and topics to the moderators. But nowadays most of the topics are new ones, as old topics are not being discussed anymore due to increment in numbers of members.
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I also discourage members and Mods for negative Karma. AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum, I do not want to create a stressful atmosphere for anyone.
Being a friendly forum does not necessarily mean that we have to let the environment become more and more charged by being permissive with some behaviors. Knowing how to be patient, notify, give users time, is fine, but always with a limit, otherwise the forum would be filled with thousands of LQPs. When a user does not heed these warnings and continues to post spam or trash messages, it is best to act according to the rules. If a user really doesn't realize what they've done, they can always request that their LQP or spam tag be removed, but that requires a willingness to want to do things correctly.
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How do mods deal with new topics that are unnecessary because there are already existing and active threads that covers that?
Here are some examples:
Not needed - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319149.0
Duplicate - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319103.0
The OP must have read that topic creation gives more points that is why he keeps creating topics in the gambling board.
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How do mods deal with new topics that are unnecessary because there are already existing and active threads that covers that?
Here are some examples:
Not needed - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319149.0
Duplicate - https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319103.0
The OP must have read that topic creation gives more points that is why he keeps creating topics in the gambling board.
That is a spammer and a shitposter. How can someone post the same league in two different threads. And topics like this is very simple to handle and the best way to is just to lock the thread and that is all because once it is lock other users can not make comments again so it would go down to the bottom of the board. Most of the threads we make comments are ancient threads and the ones that are not good should be locked while the ones contribute meaningful things should continue.
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There are some users who believe in the philosophy of; has there is a topic, there must be contribution. So, they tend to reply to every post and questions even when they are shitty or appear dumb. Besides, some members could be looking for cheap topics to contribute and complete their weekly quota. The fastest solution is to lock the topic. I believe there's such a function here. That is if you feel there are important comments in the posts that needs not to be deleted or trashed. I doubt that a shit thread will generate quality post.
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There is this account that I am following recently and continues seeing creating low quality thread , I don't know if His target is to gain points or giving way for His alt accounts to have place to complete their post counts.
I have reported couple of His threads but dunno if being deleted or acted by the mods .
But with this thread , I will follow your advise and not to engage in that topic instead I will directly report that.
If you have an obvious case of spamming don't want for the mods- give the user -Karma. The -Karma system was created for such users, this way ability to rank up will be reduced and eventually all his points would be wiped.
You can also report such users on this thread https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62493.585
Yeah but I am still FM when I posted this means i still have no Karma to be given but now? i kept giving karma to those posts that I believe either necrobumping and shill thread , and also those low quality topics , maybe have awarded some just today.
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There are some users who believe in the philosophy of; has there is a topic, there must be contribution. So, they tend to reply to every post and questions even when they are shitty or appear dumb. Besides, some members could be looking for cheap topics to contribute and complete their weekly quota. The fastest solution is to lock the topic. I believe there's such a function here. That is if you feel there are important comments in the posts that needs not to be deleted or trashed. I doubt that a shit thread will generate quality post.
Even if it's not about the weekly quota, a lot of newbies don't understand such things and they would respond to almost every post they see and read in any section they are surfing as long as they can write something about the topic being discussed. So locking a thread would prevent such things from happening.
Talking about quality posts in a shit thread, they would stay if a thread is locked, which is why when a user reports a low-quality post or thread, moderators should have a look at all the replies and if they feel there are useful responses in it, they shouldn't remove the thread but simply lock it.
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Even if it's not about the weekly quota, a lot of newbies don't understand such things and they would respond to almost every post they see and read in any section they are surfing as long as they can write something about the topic being discussed. So locking a thread would prevent such things from happening.
Talking about quality posts in a shit thread, they would stay if a thread is locked, which is why when a user reports a low-quality post or thread, moderators should have a look at all the replies and if they feel there are useful responses in it, they shouldn't remove the thread but simply lock it.
To be honest, I am not willing to lock a topic with many good comments, because at that point, the entire thread (topic content + comments) is of very good quality and deserves to be interacted with by everyone. I consider locking a topic when it is still attracting members to be an extreme action, I myself do not do this, and I do not encourage others to do so.
I think the solution is for each of us to ignore low-quality topics or threads. We are not obligated to comment on every topic we see! Of course, I don't think it will completely discourage members from creating low-quality topics, it just needs to work and be 80% effective to increase the quality of the forum ;D
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Recently I've seen the appearance of many new low-quality topics:
+ Include only 1-2 simple sentences.
+ Do not provide any useful information.
+ Do not have any personal opinions.
I often see these 3 points in various low quality threads and this is what makes us not need to reply and just let it be.
I'd rather avoid the thread than reply to it because it would be controversial if I insisted on replying.
Maybe it's better after that I will give a PM to the member so that he can improve the quality of his post and make it more useful in creating threads.
In the context of problems like this, we have to be wise and provide solutions to members who make mistakes because this is a warning or suggestion so that they can be better at the altcoinstalks forum.
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I often see these 3 points in various low quality threads and this is what makes us not need to reply and just let it be.
I'd rather avoid the thread than reply to it because it would be controversial if I insisted on replying.
Maybe it's better after that I will give a PM to the member so that he can improve the quality of his post and make it more useful in creating threads.
In the context of problems like this, we have to be wise and provide solutions to members who make mistakes because this is a warning or suggestion so that they can be better at the altcoinstalks forum.
Unfortunately, that's something that doesn't work. For a long time I sent PMs to users to improve the quality of their posts, warning them of the consequences, I even wrote posts directly to other users in their responses. But in 99% of cases it didn't help and they continued writing LQP posts. The most curious thing about these cases is that these users know that they are not doing things right, but they still continue with their behavior, as if no one was going to do anything, or we didn't notice. We must use the tools available on the forum to avoid that type of "content". Affected users can always return to a "normal" account using the available mechanisms, they just need the will to do it right.
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Maybe it's better after that I will give a PM to the member so that he can improve the quality of his post and make it more useful in creating threads.
In the context of problems like this, we have to be wise and provide solutions to members who make mistakes because this is a warning or suggestion so that they can be better at the altcoinstalks forum.
Unfortunately, that's something that doesn't work. For a long time I sent PMs to users to improve the quality of their posts, warning them of the consequences, I even wrote posts directly to other users in their responses. But in 99% of cases it didn't help and they continued writing LQP posts. The most curious thing about these cases is that these users know that they are not doing things right, but they still continue with their behavior, as if no one was going to do anything, or we didn't notice. We must use the tools available on the forum to avoid that type of "content". Affected users can always return to a "normal" account using the available mechanisms, they just need the will to do it right.
Just like me, I also tend to experience a lot of failure in providing education to members who continuously make Spammer type posts, even though previously I had also given direct warnings through post replies or quotes.
We can only think positively because we are in a friendly forum and this is one of the best forms for us as members who have broad insight to provide education to those who always make Low Quality Posts.
But if the member continuously makes mistakes by making Spam posts, then I used to (when I was a Modz) immediately delete the posts or move them to the "Quarantine and Test Area" sub-forum.
Why did I move the Spam post?
Due to the fear that the post's authenticity could still be tested if an appeal is filed, this is also my policy between deleting the post and moving the post.
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Just like me, I also tend to experience a lot of failure in providing education to members who continuously make Spammer type posts, even though previously I had also given direct warnings through post replies or quotes.
We can only think positively because we are in a friendly forum and this is one of the best forms for us as members who have broad insight to provide education to those who always make Low Quality Posts.
Focus on improving the post quality, we better make sure that we continue to give helpful information to anyone who is commonly reading each thread in this forum. Don't just think positively, not because we have a friendly community here, we will not do our best to try to improve our post quality. Let's help each other on this part.
But if the member continuously makes mistakes by making Spam posts, then I used to (when I was a Modz) immediately delete the posts or move them to the "Quarantine and Test Area" sub-forum.
Why did I move the Spam post?
Due to the fear that the post's authenticity could still be tested if an appeal is filed, this is also my policy between deleting the post and moving the post.
That would be the best action we can take. We will report to the moderator and let them decide on the next action. If the user continuously makes a low-quality post or only contributes spam posts, it's guaranteed that they will be put to watch list.
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Just like me, I also tend to experience a lot of failure in providing education to members who continuously make Spammer type posts, even though previously I had also given direct warnings through post replies or quotes.
We can only think positively because we are in a friendly forum and this is one of the best forms for us as members who have broad insight to provide education to those who always make Low Quality Posts.
But if the member continuously makes mistakes by making Spam posts, then I used to (when I was a Modz) immediately delete the posts or move them to the "Quarantine and Test Area" sub-forum.
Why did I move the Spam post?
Due to the fear that the post's authenticity could still be tested if an appeal is filed, this is also my policy between deleting the post and moving the post.
I think spam posts shouldn't be moved anywhere, they should be deleted directly, after that the user should be notified (something I don't do anymore) and an initial warning sent. If we had to notify each user via PM that they were just posting spam, we would never finish, and what's worse, we would waste time because, as I said in my previous post, that doesn't work. If this behavior continues, other measures are taken to prevent it.
Any user affected by the deletion of posts can write to any of the moderators to find out what the problem is, but surprisingly none of them do, because they know perfectly well that they are violating the most basic rules of the forum. Fortunately we now have the Quality Bar, which saves us a lot of time by not having to review the posts history of some users.
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some of the newbies create a low quality topic, they don't care about that, as long as they can post for the ranking, it's okay for them. The moderators should always inform the newbies that the topic should be quality, not low quality post.
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some of the newbies create a low quality topic, they don't care about that, as long as they can post for the ranking, it's okay for them. The moderators should always inform the newbies that the topic should be quality, not low quality post.
The rules of the forum were written for a reason. Moderators can't be constantly reminding new users to write quality posts or they'll be penalized. It's up to users (new and old) to always keep the rules of the forum in mind and do their best to grow the community. Personally, I've already wasted a lot of time sending PMs to users who were writing low-quality posts, and it's something I won't do again. Rules always need to be revised from time to time, as they can be updated more often than we think.
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some of the newbies create a low quality topic, they don't care about that, as long as they can post for the ranking, it's okay for them. The moderators should always inform the newbies that the topic should be quality, not low quality post.
Lets just give them advise mate and if they do not listen then give them negative karma once and if they continue then lets report to the admin.
and you are correct that they just kept posting for ranking and of course to join campaign and that is the reason why managers should look into their Karmas and their post history.
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Thank you so much for such a great reminder for us who is just starting to explore the forum, it's a big help :)
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This is very helpful post. I think everyone will be more careful about posting and creating topic. Yes you told absolutely correct shouldn’t reply or comments on Low quality post. Then poster will be careful when they will creat topic or post.We laso should Give rewords who will creat good topic and post. And we know it has reword system, Who will creat good post we will give +karma.
And who will creat bad post even copy past we will report to admin.
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This is very helpful post. I think everyone will be more careful about posting and creating topic. Yes you told absolutely correct shouldn’t reply or comments on Low quality post. Then poster will be careful when they will creat topic or post.We laso should Give rewords who will creat good topic and post. And we know it has reword system, Who will creat good post we will give +karma.
And who will creat bad post even copy past we will report to admin.
Yes but even this post has been created for people to see, read and comment yet, I have seen users making low quality posts, and the worst part creating low quality threads. Some of them are under review, some them already plagiarism strike while the worst ones have gotten their red bar. The Moderators and the admin are working tirelessly to make sure that the forum produces quality posters so that whenever place we found ourselves, we post qualitative and not quantitative.
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I totally support your call not to make replies in low quality topics!+
Not replying to low-quality posts is not enough but having it moved to the trash bin is the best idea since the forum is growing in numbers as visitors visit it regularly to learn about crypto. Still allowing low posts up to date shouldn't continue because the longer you don't put a stop to it by trashing them, the more the low-quality posts continue.
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Until now, I have never replied to low quality topics because I don't fully understand the inductors for low quality topics. I'm new to altcoinstalks and I just read various rules that made me confused. It's better for me to avoid what I don't know than to get a warning from the moderator.
If I read the thread written by the OP, it is very complicated to describe because it must be my ignorance, I also reply to this post wisely and better because I would rather avoid being reprimanded than having to break the rules.
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Until now, I have never replied to low quality topics because I don't fully understand the inductors for low quality topics. I'm new to altcoinstalks and I just read various rules that made me confused. It's better for me to avoid what I don't know than to get a warning from the moderator.
If I read the thread written by the OP, it is very complicated to describe because it must be my ignorance, I also reply to this post wisely and better because I would rather avoid being reprimanded than having to break the rules.
No moderator is going to penalize you or anything like that for asking questions, by asking we also learn. But it is always preferable that you look for answers in the forum, since it is possible that your questions have already been answered. If not, ask what you want to know or don't understand in the corresponding subforum and we will help you.
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Until now, I have never replied to low quality topics because I don't fully understand the inductors for low quality topics. I'm new to altcoinstalks and I just read various rules that made me confused. It's better for me to avoid what I don't know than to get a warning from the moderator.
If I read the thread written by the OP, it is very complicated to describe because it must be my ignorance, I also reply to this post wisely and better because I would rather avoid being reprimanded than having to break the rules.
When you don't understand the context of a post, you shouldn't reply to it anyway, but even if you reply to a topic that is low-quality, you are not going to be penalized for that, the worst that can happen is your post might get removed along with the topic if you have put in some efforts in curating a good response but since the topic was of low-quality, it got deleted. That's a negative side of responding to low-quality posts or threads.
Other than that, you have nothing to worry about as long as you are not writing low-quality posts. You can find a lot of good quality posters responding in low-quality threads sometimes whether they are responding to the topic or bashing the guy for his low-quality or useless thread, but it is just better if you report such threads or posts instead of entertaining them.
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You can find a lot of good quality posters responding in low-quality threads sometimes whether they are responding to the topic or bashing the guy for his low-quality or useless thread, but it is just better if you report such threads or posts instead of entertaining them.
Yeah, focusing on high-quality topics that are discussed in a friendly manner is just as important as fighting against low-quality content on the forum. I think that at some point, low-quality topics will stop being created if they are ignored and reported to the mods.
Recently, I have seen fewer low-quality topics, so it seems that we have been successful in ignoring and reporting them ^^