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Title: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: ZionRTZ on April 21, 2019, 10:38:01 PM
I noticed that some users, reported for plagiarism and punished with multiple negative karma, have joined a new bounty campaign (signature). I have not checked the ZROCOR bounty thread yet but if you are a legit participant in their signature campaign, I suggest you ask the bounty manager if they'll allow accounts -karma.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: moonuranus on April 22, 2019, 08:38:26 AM
Plagiarism is a serious matter, those who commit such acts shall not be accepted in any of the campaigns or must be banned in the forum in order to keep a healthy community and plagiarizers free.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: mnixxo.crypto on April 22, 2019, 12:31:34 PM
It is all about bounty manager. If he/she decide that he/she will accept users with negative karma, we can't do anything. On the other hands, there are some bonuses for users with positive karma.

In 888tron bounty>

If you have high karma, you can get a bonus to signature stakes:
up to 50 - no bonus
50-99 - +3%
100-299 - + 5%
300 and more - + 10%
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 22, 2019, 03:11:06 PM
I noticed that some users, reported for plagiarism and punished with multiple negative karma, have joined a new bounty campaign (signature). I have not checked the ZROCOR bounty thread yet but if you are a legit participant in their signature campaign, I suggest you ask the bounty manager if they'll allow accounts -karma.

Could you provide me a profile link?

Thanks for reminding me, I noticed a user with -K on this bounty too so have reached out to the bounty manager. Hopefully they will stop accepting users with -K very soon. The BountySuite manager is @TokenSuiteVladislav (https://t.me/TokenSuiteVladislav) for anyone who wants to contact them about certain users in future.

... On the other hands, there are some bonuses for users with positive karma.

This is super cool  8)

PS - Maybe move this to Decentralized Team forum and people can post user profiles here so I can reach out to bounty managers.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 22, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: mnixxo.crypto on April 22, 2019, 09:15:59 PM

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

That is not bad idea to avoid users with more than 10 negative karma to use signature. Or maybe with each 10 negative karma users will go down with their rank. -10 karma 1 rank down, -20 karma 2 ranks down etc.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: ZionRTZ on April 22, 2019, 09:52:17 PM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282
They are the ones I am actually referring to. I think it does not make sense to hunt for these plagiarists and give them -karma for their posts if they will still be allowed to wear a signature. But as mnixxo said, it is at the bm's discretion.


Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

That is not bad idea to avoid users with more than 10 negative karma to use signature. Or maybe with each 10 negative karma users will go down with their rank. -10 karma 1 rank down, -20 karma 2 ranks down etc.
I support.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: admin on April 23, 2019, 01:09:16 AM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: Zed0X on April 23, 2019, 10:23:59 AM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Sapp (-30K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38055

I expect more of them to come out once they find out that zrocor allows -karma accounts to participate.



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..... Or maybe with each 10 negative karma users will go down with their rank. -10 karma 1 rank down, -20 karma 2 ranks down etc.
I prefer this one. Some of the reported plagiarists stopped copying but their numerous plagiarized posts/comments still helped them rank up. 
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 23, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis

sounds good either way it's done, whether case by case or by negative karma amount as mnixxo suggested, or those who are part of the karma abusers membership group. might be more useful/relevant to replace their signature with one below, instead of completing removing it though  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/czMQWFK.gif)
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 23, 2019, 11:51:31 AM
Sapp (-30K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38055

I expect more of them to come out once they find out that zrocor allows -karma accounts to participate.

I'm also now wondering how many negative karma participants are in this campaign. I think Zed30 might be right, users with negative karma will be drawn towards BountySuite sig campaigns that allow karma abusers.

Also another two user with Zrocor signature and lots of negative karma.
Melon (-18K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43093
abdmuiz (-11K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12032 (Sr Member)
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: mnixxo.crypto on April 23, 2019, 01:49:00 PM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis

Admin, how about what i have suggested. For every 10 negative karma, the user rank will go down. Is that possible? Thank you
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: admin on April 24, 2019, 12:20:01 AM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis

Admin, how about what i have suggested. For every 10 negative karma, the user rank will go down. Is that possible? Thank you
everything is possible
but it means i will have to hard code it, then test it
then make sure i didn't mess something else,
thus i will try to see easiest solutions first
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: mnixxo.crypto on April 24, 2019, 12:37:06 PM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis

Admin, how about what i have suggested. For every 10 negative karma, the user rank will go down. Is that possible? Thank you
everything is possible
but it means i will have to hard code it, then test it
then make sure i didn't mess something else,
thus i will try to see easiest solutions first

Thank you for your response. maybe you will find some easier solution now.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 24, 2019, 03:21:20 PM
Here's my report list so far, unfortunately the bounty manager confirmed that they are still able to part of signature campaign.

Arybes (-37k): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561
Dodo  (-37K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784
Galon (-14K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101
Rembang (-49K): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282

Admin: Could I suggest withdrawing signature rights for members with -10 or more karma? So they can't have any signature space at all?
This would help a lot for the outright karma abusers such as these. Be nice to get a profile label for that membership group too ;)

let me see what can be done,
but blocking signature can be done on a case to case basis

Admin, how about what i have suggested. For every 10 negative karma, the user rank will go down. Is that possible? Thank you
everything is possible
but it means i will have to hard code it, then test it
then make sure i didn't mess something else,
thus i will try to see easiest solutions first

In the meantime, if it's possible to change the ranks of the members listed in this topic in the way mnixxo suggested that would be great:

Arybes (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561 (Full -> Baby)
Dodo  (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784 (Full -> Baby)
Galon (-1 rank): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101 (Full -> Member)
Rembang (-4 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282 (Full -> 1st Step)
Sapp (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38055 (Full -> Baby)
Melon (-1 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43093 (Full -> Member)
abdmuiz (-1 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12032 (Sr -> Full)

It wouldn't solve the problem of them having signatures, but will significantly demonetize their signatures at least. These are the worst offenders I've seen but there are a many others, so coding would be great to have. What language is it written in? I'd be curious to have a look at it and help out if possible.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: Zed0X on April 24, 2019, 06:10:12 PM
Lol I think it is a bit harsh to demote some to Baby.

Jr. Member and removal of their -karma should be a fair start for them. If they become repeat offenders, a suspension should be appropriate. 
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 24, 2019, 09:44:45 PM
Lol I think it is a bit harsh to demote some to Baby.

Jr. Member and removal of their -karma should be a fair start for them. If they become repeat offenders, a suspension should be appropriate.

This would be what mnixxo suggested and what you thought was better, but fair enough.

..... Or maybe with each 10 negative karma users will go down with their rank. -10 karma 1 rank down, -20 karma 2 ranks down etc.
I prefer this one. Some of the reported plagiarists stopped copying but their numerous plagiarized posts/comments still helped them rank up.

This is why I suggested a negative karma limit (-10K) for having signature de-activated for the repeated spammers and plagiarists, rather than simply de-ranking them. I don't really mind how they are demonetized, but I think the worst offenders should be dealt with as a priority, rather than simply reduced to Jr Member and continue spamming as part of signature campaigns (from bountysuite primarily) as well as others.

Lack of financial incentive to spam = much less spamming.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: ZionRTZ on April 24, 2019, 10:26:36 PM
In the meantime, if it's possible to change the ranks of the members listed in this topic in the way mnixxo suggested that would be great:

Arybes (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36561 (Full -> Baby)
Dodo  (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35784 (Full -> Baby)
Galon (-1 rank): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43101 (Full -> Member)
Rembang (-4 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=39282 (Full -> 1st Step)
Sapp (-3 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38055 (Full -> Baby)
Melon (-1 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43093 (Full -> Member)
abdmuiz (-1 ranks): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12032 (Sr -> Full)

Mikam https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38746


Lol I think it is a bit harsh to demote some to Baby.

Jr. Member and removal of their -karma should be a fair start for them. If they become repeat offenders, a suspension should be appropriate. 
This is quite lenient but there's the suspension part which make it good also. The risk here is that they will most likely become spammers or shitty posters once they may stop plagiarizing. If they could not come up with original post before, I don't think they can come up with a good post. Having said that,  this is still a friendly forum.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: Zed0X on April 25, 2019, 11:47:01 AM
This would be what mnixxo suggested and what you thought was better, but fair enough.

I did agree on lowering their ranks. I did not focus too much on how it will be done.


This is why I suggested a negative karma limit (-10K) for having signature de-activated for the repeated spammers and plagiarists, rather than simply de-ranking them. I don't really mind how they are demonetized, but I think the worst offenders should be dealt with as a priority, rather than simply reduced to Jr Member and continue spamming as part of signature campaigns (from bountysuite primarily) as well as others.
I suggested the lowering of their ranks to Jr. Members at maximum to give recognition to their little "contribution" to the forum. Although we do not encourage plagiarized contents, their posts/comments somehow increased the activity in this forum thru comments/replies of other legit members.


This is quite lenient but there's the suspension part which make it good also. The risk here is that they will most likely become spammers or shitty posters once they may stop plagiarizing. If they could not come up with original post before, I don't think they can come up with a good post.
There's that risk. There are times when I spend an hour browsing comments and there are a lot really low quality comments even from accounts with neutral or positive karma.


Having said that,  this is still a friendly forum.
Agree.
Title: Re: Signature Campaigns allowing users with negative karma?
Post by: Zed0X on April 25, 2019, 12:10:16 PM
Sorry if off-topic but this guys are just funny

Commenting on Do not scare about negative karma (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60983.0)

Frankly, negative karma is very disturbing to my mind. Every time I work on a topic in a forum, I always imagine karma following my post. I become less confident about it.

It should be like that. We have to be confident in working on the post. It must be in accordance with the topic and facts. Not a story that is made.