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Title: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: ayatoslaw on April 22, 2019, 04:24:25 AM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: AMANPURI OFFICIAL INDONESIA on April 22, 2019, 05:25:05 AM
I also agree, because the HC project is when the market price is very bad, so the current HC does not guarantee that the project is good, just SC I think because maybe the token will be stable because there are not many investors who have bonuses
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: zendicator on April 22, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
I agree. Some of the shit projects are just money grabbers. I remember ontology that only made and airdrop, as of now, they are very successful.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Cutter Cute on April 22, 2019, 02:24:42 PM
The ICO project in 2018 made many investors want big profits but many of the projects ended scam, I still believe projects that do not achieve softcap will continue because now I have several coins that do not hold ICO like GENX and this coin already has a list of exchanges namely Tradesatoshi
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: dragononcrypto on April 22, 2019, 04:11:01 PM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?

I do like the fair launch approach instead of ICO or premine, such as how Bitcoin or Litecoin started as well as more recently Grin. Though I do like airdropped projects from a premine too. Even if they are usually not that valuable a project, it is very different from overvalued ICOs still.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: jet on April 22, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
ICO is to gather funds, this is an start-up for the project to launch. there will be huge chance to continue if project have successfully enough funds to run the company. it may not a guarantee forever but it will be a good start of a company having enough funds.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: trauchot on April 22, 2019, 04:43:05 PM
I completely agree, some companies that reach hardcaps even end up in a scam after a while or simply cannot develop their technologies and their products for various reasons.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: GREENch85 on April 22, 2019, 05:48:22 PM
If the project #DevelopmentTeam  does not need the funds of ordinary people, then maybe they found money elsewhere(for example, investment funds)
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Rituvohra01 on April 22, 2019, 06:06:00 PM
I totally agree with the statement that if a project reach a hard cap is no guarantee that the project will succeed. Project can be scam also.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Malibu on April 23, 2019, 02:53:44 PM
They can lie about Hardcap. Many of them hide their accounts. But at the same time, they can just steal the money and throw their project. No matter they assembled a Hardcap or the softcup, the main thing that they do on.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Thegals on April 23, 2019, 06:59:25 PM
That is a true statement and has happened several times.  When the end result of ICO sales with hardcap achievement, the price still falls and does not match expectations.  And there are a number of hardcap ICO projects that have not made a listing in the market.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Stuart on April 23, 2019, 07:08:31 PM
Its true that an ICO that made its hardcap finds difficulties afterwards with other things. I have seen a lot of projects that had a successful hardcap, but till now has not been listed, which means they are scam, because they have no form of information from the team/projects.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Ghozrd on April 23, 2019, 07:10:41 PM
ICO will continue to exist if the developers want to take a better approach with community members, there will be ideas from members who can help and conduct trials of the projects they have.
The achievement of Hardcap is really needed to develop the ICO project, we just take the example of UBEX, BOLTTCOIN which has successfully achieved hardcap and is still developing with their products
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: gotbounty on April 23, 2019, 10:06:04 PM
It is true. The softcap or hardcap won't guarantee the project to succeed in the future. The quality of the team and the product that will have big influences on success. So, that's why we need to be smart to see the potential of a project.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: ayatoslaw on April 24, 2019, 01:28:37 AM
It is true. The softcap or hardcap won't guarantee the project to succeed in the future. The quality of the team and the product that will have big influences on success. So, that's why we need to be smart to see the potential of a project.
foresight and investment when it is needed to do research properly,
because most people do very little research, and most prefer and follow issues that are developing on the market.
this is a wrong decision in my opinion. because after all we have to know that the issue is built by whales and project owners.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Alcor on April 24, 2019, 06:06:42 AM
Of course, the achievement of hardcap in ICO projects does not at all mean the continued success of the project and the growth of its tokens in price. This only means that the ICO team has well submitted its project idea and investors have believed this team, invested their funds in the project. However, this team may well turn out to be fraudulent and investors will lose their invested money. Therefore, each of us should study the project and its team well before investing in it, even though the project may be popular.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: OptimusPrime on April 24, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?
yes, you are right. Many think that projects reaching hardcap without having its use case available or having use case which cannot help the project will guarantee projects success but they are wrong
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Anzal RK on April 24, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
I agree with you.
indeed, even ICC with hardcap can still fail, perhaps because of unclear projects, internal problems that sometimes hamper project progress, fraud that often occurs in ICO and other things.
maybe there will be times when the initials of coins such as ICO and IEO will disappear and only projects that are already running can make their own coins.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: gotbounty on April 24, 2019, 07:40:38 PM
~snip~ foresight and investment when it is needed to do research properly, ~snip~

That is what I mean, people must do research before the buy tokens or coins even if the projects are successful in their ICOs or IEOs. It is an important thing that people need to remember.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: wizard on April 25, 2019, 08:29:19 PM
Teams usually do not provide proofs of how much money they have collected. Only words...To take it on trust - isn't going to be the best option.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: aiviaa485 on April 26, 2019, 12:16:22 PM
Agree with you because with an unclear goal, it also makes me feel bad to support it.

But look, I'm also now a Community Manager of BCNEX for Indonesia (https://t.me/Bcnex_Official_Indonesia), an ICO coin from Vietnam (https://www.bcnex.net/).
And I think BCNEX is very suitable to be supported in its development.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: sturec22 on April 27, 2019, 12:42:33 PM
Nothing guaranties a succeed of the project right now, we are in a huge bear market and it can crash even the best projects in the crypto world. Hardcaps vary a lot btw. If the hardcap is too low it is easier to sell all the coins. That does not mean that the project has high hard cap...
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: MuTu on April 27, 2019, 01:09:36 PM
Indeed hardcap is not a guarantee that the ICO project is successful, but the success or failure of an ICO depends on the development of the project, the product is in accordance with the roadmap and how many people will respond to ICO products later.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: shadowdio on April 27, 2019, 02:20:56 PM
yes I agree there is no guarantee that the project will success reaching hardcap, they can cancel the project and also they can be scam.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: zilzylian on April 27, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
ICO is the best step to get an altcoin at a fairly low price, but after the altcoin listed on the crypto market the price will go down, but if I see a project that reaches the hardcap I am very optimistic about the future of the project, but now the project does not reach softcap can also continue their projects, choosing coins from the team background and products I really need to do. because the project developers will try to build their good project
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: maro101 on April 27, 2019, 05:37:44 PM
Unfortunately, the achievement of a hardcap ico does not guarantee that all the ideas expressed in whitepaper will be implemented. It must be understood that investing in ico has great risks and should be carefully considered before investing in projects.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Alter on April 27, 2019, 07:56:50 PM
There is no correlation between success and hardcap or softcap. Hardcap or softcap is only the achievement to start the project in the early step. While success will be achieved if all parts of the projects can lead to success in the future. To know all the parts, we should make an analysis.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: ayatoslaw on April 28, 2019, 03:25:31 AM
There is no correlation between success and hardcap or softcap. Hardcap or softcap is only the achievement to start the project in the early step. While success will be achieved if all parts of the projects can lead to success in the future. To know all the parts, we should make an analysis.
there is actually a relationship between hardcap and project success,
because if it is hardcap, it is certain that the team will not be confused about the funds, because they already got it during the ICO and have met the target.
it's just that not all projects that have hardcap projects are smooth and successful ..
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: sampoerna on April 28, 2019, 03:37:57 AM
For this case, I agree with you.
I have ever found some ICOs that had the hardcap reached during ICO, moreover, before ICO finished. But, after listing, what happens to them? The development and progress of their coins on the market are very slow with under price, lower than in ICO.
Hardcap is interesting but doesn't guarantee the success of a project. It needs more follow up tot he projects to maintain the success even after on listing, maintain the development of the projects, investors trusts, and also how to manage the community to attract in the coin.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: LogiC on April 28, 2019, 09:19:04 AM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?

I agree on this there are projects who has no ICO but their projects seems to be doig well. But not all hardcap ICOs are all not guaranteed if the project maybe handle well. Its a shame for the investors if the ICO reached hardcap and they cant do any mvp or working platform. This is more important than silly pum and dump trading activity.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Fatiti on April 28, 2019, 09:25:20 AM
Very true, most project that reaches there hard carp ends up not doing anything or more work about the project because they think they already have the hype while making the project to be useless at the long run..
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: jenica on April 28, 2019, 03:01:36 PM
Very true, most project that reaches there hard carp ends up not doing anything or more work about the project because they think they already have the hype while making the project to be useless at the long run..
Succeed in quick time has not been able to in saying successful full, success is actually if the price in a long time always up, although the increase is not fast but definitely
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: robelneo on April 28, 2019, 06:45:27 PM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?

It's not a guaranty but they have a good chance to succeed because they are already funded and they already gained the trust of investors, it's not a guaranty but they are in a good start.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Fenix on April 28, 2019, 07:25:47 PM
Achieving hardcap by the ICO team in fundraising only means that investors believed in the prospects of this project and invested their funds in it. However, we know how many times even such ICO projects turned out to be common fraudsters and their teams eventually ran away, and investors lost their money.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Gyrgen on April 28, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
So that this does not happen, I think it is very important that the project team was always in good shape and did not stop there.Otherwise, it will lead to the demise of the project.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: ArtCrypt on May 02, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
I think that hardcap is not a guarantee of the future success of the project. We have faced many times with such companies, which completely failed after a while. I don't know why this is happening. This may be due to the bear market or the lack of a working product.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: moonuranus on May 02, 2019, 02:20:38 PM
OP's opinion is agreeable, hardcap is nothing if the project's working product is actually non and lack of creativity and initiative to be adopted by the mass, that's why we need to choose those projects the clearly is feasible and realistic.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: aldenlim on May 02, 2019, 02:37:24 PM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?
The ones that run the ICO succeeded if they reached the hard cap because they got all the money that they want to be able to run the project
that they are promoting. But for investors, it does not give the assurance that they will get profit from it because most of the projects that is
reaching its hard cap often being idle and the project stops on upgrading and this are the problems of this shady projects these days.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Legio on May 02, 2019, 03:04:58 PM
Yes, hardcap is not a guarantee that ICO is successful, there are many examples of ICOs that are able to reach hardcap but in some time ICO turned out to be scam or dead. what makes ICO successful is how the dev team responds to investors' trust in the ICO and how the market responds.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: ayatoslaw on May 04, 2019, 05:32:58 AM
Yes, hardcap is not a guarantee that ICO is successful, there are many examples of ICOs that are able to reach hardcap but in some time ICO turned out to be scam or dead. what makes ICO successful is how the dev team responds to investors' trust in the ICO and how the market responds.
Hardcap ICOs should have a big responsibility to make the project better,
because the funds collected have been as expected, and I'm sure a serious project will develop quickly,
and if not serious it will die quickly and develop very long.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: alfatih99 on May 05, 2019, 12:04:59 AM
really true and I also strongly agree with your opinion, but if the ico funds have met the target, ico will usually succeed.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: andrewBud on May 05, 2019, 10:15:46 PM

Often, developers point very big Hardcap.  In fact, they require much less money to develop.  Therefore, if hardcap is, then often the price goes down.  Because everyone who wanted to buy bought.  As a result, there are often no buyers on exchanges - and the price goes down.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: abdmuiz on May 05, 2019, 11:57:08 PM
one of the reasons for the success of the cryptocurrency industry is depending on the developer and someone behind the project
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Rofiastuti on May 06, 2019, 12:10:27 AM
like that I have experienced now, I know Crypto in October 2018 and as a bounty hunter so far I have participated in 3 projects that have finished bounty but it have not been able to be disbursed because the ICO is not yet in the market, or waiting for stable prices to be liquidated first . but I was still looking for a bounty by follow a new project  because I was sure of a bounty sometime.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Galon on May 06, 2019, 05:04:06 PM
This is one of the problems in the ICO. The prize hunter is disappointed. If the hardcap of ico is successful, the bounty hunter can get his rights. Apparently not. The project becomes a scammar because the investors are less concerned about the bounty hunter.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: rizqillah on May 06, 2019, 05:08:14 PM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?

I agree mate,  Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed.  The market condition  also will affect the ICO
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Alcor on May 06, 2019, 10:18:08 PM
The achievement of the project ICO hardcap - it just means that many investors believed the ICO team and invested in the project. With this money, the ICO team can continue to do anything. If they turn out to be fraudsters, they can escape with them. If they are unfair or non-professional, they can dispose of the collected funds inefficiently and the token will not grow in price.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: diygirl on May 06, 2019, 11:10:15 PM
Hardcap is still the beginning of a long process on the success of a project. So, it won't guarantee success. There are many steps that a project should pass, and every step determines the success in the future.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Rembang on May 07, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
it's true that the hard cap on the ico project is sometimes not guaranteed for the success of the coin in the market, but it's one step better.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Absolutep on May 19, 2019, 09:35:21 AM
Though hard cap is not a guarantee that a project will succeed but it can also be a pointer for success because reaching hard cap will attract more investors later.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: aldenlim on May 19, 2019, 10:50:21 AM
Though hard cap is not a guarantee that a project will succeed but it can also be a pointer for success because reaching hard cap will attract more investors later.
LOL, when an ICO reaches it's hard-cap it already succeeds on its goals to raise funds and how can you tell
that the project does not succeed if they reach hard-cap? The main goal of ICO's is to fundraise money for
its project so any project that reaches a certain amount of money whether it is hard-cap or soft-cap it already
succeeded.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Davidniam55 on May 19, 2019, 03:14:00 PM
itu benar benar bro. jika saya melihat dari pengalaman saya dan beberapa teman saya. baik mereka yang bergabung karunia / Airdrop bahkan beberapa teman saya yang berinvestasi di ico. banyak yang tidak jelas nasib ico. karena sampai sekarang belum ada berita bahkan scam.  Even if we pay attention to the sales of ICO already hardcap
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: vanjava on May 19, 2019, 03:27:34 PM
ICO is not a guarantee that the project will be successful, because most ICO projects are still limited to concepts and do not have clear references,
but projects that don't make ICO or premine are usually serious and good projects.
and I also agree on this, what about your opinion?

yes right, ICO hardcap does not affect subsequent increases. I see there is a hardcap ICO after the registered fi market price actually goes down from the ICO price. all depends on demand and ICO trade itself. the team is very influential for better development.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: sidkz on May 26, 2019, 03:50:35 PM
I am a member of the bounty of companies and I met such that the company collected the maximum amount of fees but when entering the stock exchange tokens fell to the bottom

I think they are cheating by publishing the amount of fees
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: zendicator on May 26, 2019, 04:13:22 PM
its correct. hardcap can never be a guarantee. In 2017, most ICOs reached the hardcap but look at where are they now? Some projects are almost dead or it was abandon by the team behind it.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: Senin on June 01, 2019, 11:40:22 PM
Hardcap only indicates that investors believed in the promising ICO project and invested heavily in this project. It is not known how the ICO team will dispose of the funds collected. Including it can use the collected funds for completely different purposes and investors will lose their money.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: densuj on June 02, 2019, 07:29:29 AM
Hardcap ICO is just the money has been collected from the investors and the projects of ICOs depends on the developer of team even i have found the ICOs projects they did not get the softcap but they are still working on the projects until today , so i agree that hardcap ICO is not guarantee that the projects will be successfull it depends on the developer of team.
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: moonuranus on June 02, 2019, 12:41:54 PM
It will always depend on how the team behind the project will able keep in track with they field they are going through, hardcap is just the money collected just like what they say, the projects team ability and competency is more important
Title: Re: Hardcap ICO is no guarantee that the project will succeed
Post by: sidkz on June 02, 2019, 02:06:38 PM
I saw the project collected $ 30,000,000 according to the team
tokens fell to the bottom and no longer rose
There were 5 exchanges and not one good