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Local => Philippines (Tagalog) => Topic started by: Zed0X on October 04, 2019, 08:27:31 AM

Title: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Zed0X on October 04, 2019, 08:27:31 AM
Despite being a non-custodial wallet, Abra seems to be way behind CoinsPh (na isang custodial wallet) in terms of number of users and popularity.

Para sa mga hindi pa nakakaalam, basic difference ng dalawa:
Quote
Non-custodial: wallet users has the private keys and has complete control over their wallet and funds
Custodial: wallet providers has the private keys and has control over your funds


Hindi din nanghihingi ang Abra mismo ng KYC details unlike CoinsPH na kapag sumobra na sa minimum eh kailangan mo na magbigay ng karagdagang personal information.

Tignan natin mga posibleng rason kung bakit mas kilala ang CoinsPh among Pinoy crypto enthusiasts but let's take a look at the table below first:

CoinsPh
Abra
________________________________________________  _________________  ______________________________
Wallet servicecustodialnon-custodial
KYC verificationYes (tier 2 above)No
Native coinsBtc, Eth, Xrp, BchBtc, Eth, Ltc, Bch
No. of supported crypto431
Can link to bank accounts?YesYes
Current no. of cash in outlets (other than banks/ATMs)13+6 pawnshops (plus 7-eleven)
Current no. of cash out outlets (other than banks/ATMs)7+6 pawnshops

The table suggests na convenience ang dahilan kaya mas preferred pa din ng karamihan ang CoinsPh. Siguro pwede din natin isama yung superior marketing skills ng CoinsPh team at yung lack of knowledge ng iba pagdating sa security at privacy.


Please note na wala ako pinapaboran o sinisiraan sa dalawa. Naisip ko lang na maganda din itong pag-usapan. Share your thoughts at kung may gusto kayo idagdag na wallet, i-comment lang.




I already posted a similar topic in another forum
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: sirty143 on October 04, 2019, 05:04:27 PM
Yes, tama ka na napakagandang pag-usapan ang dalawang iyan. Marahil may mga kasamahan tayo dito na di alam ang tungkol sa Abra na sa aking palagay ay mas mainam gamitin kesa coinsph in terms of security and privacy.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: ZionRTZ on October 05, 2019, 07:21:24 AM
Coin.ph is doing well with it's services that's why users are still complacent when it comes to their security. Some are even lazy to jut down private keys or seed phrase.

It was good for Abra to add 7-eleven for cash -in option but for them to catch up, they need to step it up a notch and add more cash out outlets. It's what they're really missing. 
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: shadowdio on October 05, 2019, 08:52:02 AM
Sa marketing skills siguro kung bakit marami ang gumagamit sa coins.ph. Nakikita ko kasi ang mga ads ng coins.ph sa facebook, wala pa ko nakikitang ads ng abra. Isa din ako sa mga taong na wala pang kaalaman pa sa abra kaya sa coins.ph lang muna ko.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Zed0X on October 05, 2019, 04:01:27 PM
Yes, tama ka na napakagandang pag-usapan ang dalawang iyan. Marahil may mga kasamahan tayo dito na di alam ang tungkol sa Abra na sa aking palagay ay mas mainam gamitin kesa coinsph in terms of security and privacy.
Marami pa talaga. Nung nag-umpisa ako, wala din ako masyadong alam tungkol sa security ng coinsph.

Siguro, marami din ang wala masyadong pakialam sa security ng asset nila lalo na at hindi ganun kalakihan.


Coin.ph is doing well with it's services that's why users are still complacent when it comes to their security. Some are even lazy to jut down private keys or seed phrase.

It was good for Abra to add 7-eleven for cash -in option but for them to catch up, they need to step it up a notch and add more cash out outlets. It's what they're really missing. 
Coinsph don't have a 24/7 support but I agree that they have a decent service. It's quite unfortunate though that people are over reliant on them. I'd also like to add that unlike other custodial wallets, I have not heard anything about them withholding users funds.

For Abra, adding 7-eleven is a start and yes, they need to add more options to cash out. Some users prefers convenience and that's where Coinsph excels. 
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: sirty143 on October 10, 2019, 01:31:53 PM
Para sa dagdag kaalaman, marahil maganda rin na basahin ang articles sa ibaba patungkol sa Abra...

https://bitpinas.com/cryptocurrency/abra-bitcoin-philippines/

https://www.finder.com/ph/abra-cryptocurrency-app
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: crypto101 on October 24, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
Salamat sa pagbabahagi kabayan, sa ngayon naghahanap din ako magandang alternatibo sa coins ph at diyan sa ipinakita mo mukhang maganda nga pero diko pa nasubukan yang abra at sana magkakaroon din sila na mga services katulad sa coins ph, pwedi tayo bumili ng load at magbayad sa mga bill
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: LogiC on December 17, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
Depende sa needs nyo as a user. For simple people malaking tulong na ang coinsph dahil sa napakasimpleng sistema nito. Dahil easy lahat ng usage and paggamit. Pero kung magaling na kayo na trader or crypto guru, siguro mas gugustuhin ninyo ang Abra dahil mas marami siyang supported na coins and no need yung mga KYC.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: zendicator on January 18, 2020, 01:30:48 AM
Para sa akin okay naman ang coins ph at wala pa naman ako na encounter na problema sa oag gamit nito.  Mayroon din akon abra pero hindi ko pa nasubokang mag deposit sa account ko kasi wala naman ako problema sa coins ph. Patungkol naman sa kyc, okay naman ako dun kasi alam ko na safe ang data ko sa kanila kasi regulated aila ng bsp.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: alstevenson on January 18, 2020, 10:00:20 AM
Madami talaga ang mas gumagamit ng coins.ph kumpara sa Abra. Kumbaga makamasa kasi ang coins.ph at medyo techy na ang abra, hindi sya pangbaguhan na katulad ni coins.ph. At yung iba ayaw na lumipat dahil nasanay na sila sa coins.ph at mahirap nga naman pagkatiwalaan ang hindi pa nagagamit. Dun ka na sa gamit mo na.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Master107 on January 19, 2020, 08:40:38 AM
Normal na hnd pinapansin ang bago kasi sanay na sa luma. In addition, ang coins.ph founded on 2014 while Abra app first came out in the Philippines in 2016. Kahit ano pa ang gamitin walang problema hanggat gusto ng tao. Mahalaga rin talaga inconsiderate ang security ng wallet na sa tingin ko na meet ni coins.ph at Abra wallet.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: LeVi on January 31, 2020, 04:27:11 AM
mas pabor saken ang ABRA . ikaw mismo may hawak ng private key mo .walang third party . at lubos namang mas safe kesa coins.ph , sa pag withdraw may bank transfer na ren ..  kaya mas ok to  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Zed0X on February 03, 2020, 05:28:01 AM
mas pabor saken ang ABRA . ikaw mismo may hawak ng private key mo .walang third party . at lubos namang mas safe kesa coins.ph , sa pag withdraw may bank transfer na ren ..  kaya mas ok to  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Matagal mo na bang ginagamit ang Abra? Hindi ba thirteen words ang seed phrase nyan? Pwede kaya siya ma-import sa ibang wallet providers kagaya ng mycelium, coinomi, at iba pang non-custodial mobile wallets na ang standard ay twelve o twenty four words?
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Ozark on April 21, 2020, 05:13:55 PM
mas pabor saken ang ABRA . ikaw mismo may hawak ng private key mo .walang third party . at lubos namang mas safe kesa coins.ph , sa pag withdraw may bank transfer na ren ..  kaya mas ok to  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hi! Magkano ang transaction fee na kinukuha nila kapag mag-cashout, let's say Php50,000?
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Jentot on July 06, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
mas pabor saken ang ABRA . ikaw mismo may hawak ng private key mo .walang third party . at lubos namang mas safe kesa coins.ph , sa pag withdraw may bank transfer na ren ..  kaya mas ok to  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hi! Magkano ang transaction fee na kinukuha nila kapag mag-cashout, let's say Php50,000?
di ko alam na may mas maganda pa pala sa coins.ph.

Coins.ph na kasi ginagamit ko simula 2017 pa sa pag withdraw sa cebuana at ngayon ay sa palawan na, Subukan kong gamitin yang abra na yan.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: mikyrrad on July 23, 2020, 01:01:51 PM
Madami na kayang merchant partner si abra parang mas ok gamitin si abra kesa kay coinsph.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: emjay825 on July 27, 2020, 07:39:02 AM
Para sa akin mas mainam gamitin ang Abra kesa Coins... hindi lang cguro alam ng ating mga kababayan kung ano nga ba ang abra.com

https://www.abra.com/blog/category/how-abra-works/

Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Quantum X on August 10, 2020, 08:35:52 PM
I'm using Abra pero dahil nga masnauna Kung gamitin si coinsPH Mastinangkilik ko siya kaysa Kay abra. Kung hindi ko pa binasa ang post na ito Hindi ko malalaman na no Kyc si Abra na pinakagusto ko.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Cordillerabit on December 29, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
mas boto ako sa non-custodial no freeze no problem olrayt  ;D
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Inthesilence on December 30, 2020, 06:49:50 AM
Im planning to migrate my funds from coinsph to abra, which is much safer. Ang dami ko nang issue na naeexperience sa coinsph at kahit na ganon ang spread nila sa prices ay tinatangkilik pa rin sila ng mga pinoy dahil mas nauna at sumikat na sila bago mag boom ang bitcoin.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: sneakyboi on January 03, 2021, 03:20:35 PM
Sa tingin ko (from using them both), mas nagustuhan ko si coins.ph dahil sa nakasanayan ko na. mabilis ang transactions convertion rates is okay naman, and 0.65PHP lang ang minimum for converting to peso. While sa Abra is $5 if magcoconvert ka to crypto to crypto and to peso. pero nagustuhan ko rin sa abra yung staking feature niya.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Power on January 03, 2021, 03:48:45 PM
Kapapanuod ko lang kahapon sa isang cyrpto currency trader. Sabi niya mabagal ang serbisyo ng Abra at mas mabilis ang action pagdating naman sa coins.ph. Na experience ko din naman na mabilis nga sa coins.ph. Ngunit di ko pa nasusubukan ang Abra I will download it tom. To see the difference. May Coins.ph pro din
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Power on January 04, 2021, 09:20:15 AM
Despite being a non-custodial wallet, Abra seems to be way behind CoinsPh (na isang custodial wallet) in terms of number of users and popularity.

Para sa mga hindi pa nakakaalam, basic difference ng dalawa:
Quote
Non-custodial: wallet users has the private keys and has complete control over their wallet and funds
Custodial: wallet providers has the private keys and has control over your funds


Hindi din nanghihingi ang Abra mismo ng KYC details unlike CoinsPH na kapag sumobra na sa minimum eh kailangan mo na magbigay ng karagdagang personal information.

Tignan natin mga posibleng rason kung bakit mas kilala ang CoinsPh among Pinoy crypto enthusiasts but let's take a look at the table below first:

CoinsPh
Abra
________________________________________________  _________________  ______________________________
Wallet servicecustodialnon-custodial
KYC verificationYes (tier 2 above)No
Native coinsBtc, Eth, Xrp, BchBtc, Eth, Ltc, Bch
No. of supported crypto431
Can link to bank accounts?YesYes
Current no. of cash in outlets (other than banks/ATMs)13+6 pawnshops (plus 7-eleven)
Current no. of cash out outlets (other than banks/ATMs)7+6 pawnshops

The table suggests na convenience ang dahilan kaya mas preferred pa din ng karamihan ang CoinsPh. Siguro pwede din natin isama yung superior marketing skills ng CoinsPh team at yung lack of knowledge ng iba pagdating sa security at privacy.


Please note na wala ako pinapaboran o sinisiraan sa dalawa. Naisip ko lang na maganda din itong pag-usapan. Share your thoughts at kung may gusto kayo idagdag na wallet, i-comment lang.




I already posted a similar topic in another forum


Pagdating sa Abra mababa lang ang bayad pagmagcoconvert ka ng BTC, pero sa Coins.ph mas mataas. Pagdating sa service bumawi naman ang Coins.ph kasi maraming nag-aasikaso. Pagdating naman sa Abra 28-48 hours bago sila mag response.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: marcsymons on January 11, 2021, 10:47:40 AM
Mas sikat siguro ang Coins.ph dahil masipag sila gumamit ng advertisement then idagdag mo na rin ang referral earnings. Simula na gamitin ko ang coins.ph sa aking crypto trading ay napaka satisfied naman ako sa kanilang services and features lalo na ang security pero kung mayroon ding ganito ang ABRA ay talagang sa advertisement nalang siguro sila matatalo. Ako nga ngayon ko lang alam na may ABRA pala na Kompetensya ang coins.ph
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Master107 on January 11, 2021, 04:08:14 PM
Mas sikat siguro ang Coins.ph dahil masipag sila gumamit ng advertisement then idagdag mo na rin ang referral earnings.

Ang coins.ph is for everybody citizens sa bansa or known as pang masa.
While ang abra para siyang pang crypto people oriented lang. Hnd siya pang masa.

Basically, mas marami talagang nakakaalam sa coins.ph dahil din siguro sa load discount at mga promos nila. Also easy to convert ₱ to Btc,Eth, Xrp or vice versa.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 25, 2021, 07:40:00 AM
Isa sa tinitignan ko na dahilan is mas sikat ang coins.ph at pangmasa may technical support na incase of emergency may makakatulong sa issue about the wallet. Tbh di ko pa natry gamitin ang Abra until now pero gusto din naman subukan.
Title: Re: CoinsPh o Abra? Discussion on PH Crypto Wallets
Post by: Tristanerus on March 05, 2021, 03:01:22 PM
Isa sa tinitignan ko na dahilan is mas sikat ang coins.ph at pangmasa may technical support na incase of emergency may makakatulong sa issue about the wallet. Tbh di ko pa natry gamitin ang Abra until now pero gusto din naman subukan.

Like me  ;D , ngayon ko lng narinig ang uri na wallet na ito ang abra, coins.ph lng talaga ang ginagamit sa pag transact digital money especially sa apat na cryptocurrency na nasa  coins.ph and I currently holding some coins wait for another bear market. Interesado ako sa Abra gusto kung subukan baka magustuhan  8)