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Title: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 02, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on December 02, 2019, 12:03:14 PM
Well, have you tried it on your own? It seems to be a good alternative to many other softs that don't provide any privacy they offer. Of course without an open source code we can't be 100% sure in it, but everything should be tried.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 02, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.

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Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Fenix on December 03, 2019, 06:25:19 AM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.
Well, perhaps you are right. Using this resource, it is proposed to exchange encrypted messages, make transfers, and much more. We cannot know who and how can use this our information in the future. Even if over time this resource will prove itself well, there is no guarantee that at any time all the information collected will not be used for any illegal purposes or simply will not be stolen. We only have the choice to use such an offer or not. In this case no one can give any guarantees.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 05, 2019, 12:28:43 PM
There is a good way out for that - open the code and people will be sure that soft is okay and it will become really popular as nothing like that never existed. And many cryptomaniacs will be happy to remain anonymous. And not only them
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: masterrex on December 07, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.
Well that's the point about decentralization, that's why Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency was become a big hit because of its privacy promises and it matters, while "Utopia" project was use the same tract and tactics its not new that's why its not a big deal for me. In today's crypto reality the anonymity brings more harm than good.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on December 09, 2019, 11:52:27 AM
Well that's the point about decentralization, that's why Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency was become a big hit because of its privacy promises and it matters, while "Utopia" project was use the same tract and tactics its not new that's why its not a big deal for me. In today's crypto reality the anonymity brings more harm than good.
But crypto currency was invented as an anonymous service, no? Many countries ban crypto, that's why it's important for holders and traders to stay anonymous. I'm really shocked that some exchanging services started to ask for ID photos and collect info on where did you get the crypto. Why should I tell it to someone?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 11, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
I'm also wondering. Had to change my regular exchangers as all of them asked for some proofs. That's why I've started to look for some other coins that can be used anonymously as my country banned everything connected to crypto and I'm under the risk.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Shahinaz on December 11, 2019, 01:37:42 PM
Well that's the point about decentralization, that's why Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency was become a big hit because of its privacy promises and it matters, while "Utopia" project was use the same tract and tactics its not new that's why its not a big deal for me. In today's crypto reality the anonymity brings more harm than good.
But crypto currency was invented as an anonymous service, no? Many countries ban crypto, that's why it's important for holders and traders to stay anonymous. I'm really shocked that some exchanging services started to ask for ID photos and collect info on where did you get the crypto. Why should I tell it to someone?

You are right the crypto currency was created as an anonymous service, if it is true with the above mentioned so it is not anonymous anymore, here the government is obliged to formalize or legalize the existence of crypto money if so
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on December 16, 2019, 12:36:53 PM
That's why I'm trying to move to the coins that still can be used anonymously. Moreover Bitcoin is dying again so it's time to find the right coin to be anonymous and rich :) 
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Newton on December 19, 2019, 12:03:10 PM
I have not heard anything about this. how at least this coin will be called, so that I would understand what I mean in the future?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 20, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
I have not heard anything about this. how at least this coin will be called, so that I would understand what I mean in the future?
The coin is called Crypton and I see lots of new press releases on web so it seems that guys are seriously thinking to become the next popular app. Have no idea how would they reach it.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Andresdon on December 20, 2019, 01:44:37 PM
Never heard of this coin. How old is it exactly?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: alexkamillakroy on December 21, 2019, 12:49:02 PM
Hmmm... at least they have their PR on fleek
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: WhiskeyHoney on December 22, 2019, 09:43:14 AM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.

The truly great things are simple. Here I see the idea and pictures that emulate 1984. Well, for me personally, this is now not credible. Although maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on December 23, 2019, 03:31:56 PM
Hmmm... at least they have their PR on fleek
Yes, I've also seen their PR campaigns on a number of top related websites. I don't think that they will post it without checking and not being sure it won't do any harm to the users. So all those people that are nervous about a closed code should become calm now.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: tonymillions84 on December 23, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
there are so many projects like that. nothing looks different form the rest and if it is not bitcoin, it will never be bitcoin. we should focus on other better quality project.  we will see more of that and they will not last long as usual.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Noverteno on December 25, 2019, 07:15:02 AM
Usually such advertised projects do not represent anything and end sadly. Especially if the coin is closed source, and especially if the team is completely anonymous. Usually, if the team is anonymous, in ICO projects this is a sure sign of fraud. Therefore, with this coin you need to be very careful.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: endlasuresh on December 25, 2019, 07:54:48 AM
I have not heard anything about this. how at least this coin will be called, so that I would understand what I mean in the future?
The coin is called Crypton and I see lots of new press releases on web so it seems that guys are seriously thinking to become the next popular app. Have no idea how would they reach it.
I have never heard this coin, but it will never become like Bitcoin or their would be any coin to beat BTC. It is waste of time to think about such coins in the market and  even if they spend huge money in advertising also not a worth of penny.
Can you say the coin will get the price of $1 at the end of next year 2020.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Cryptoz on December 25, 2019, 11:35:31 PM
So far, I do not believe in the new coin that states as the next Bitcoin or the top altcoins. For, they are only leading or attracting us to be interested in the projects, buying the coins, and then we will not know what will happen to the coin. This is as usual. making it hype to attract people. Just be more careful and try to research more about the con before investing.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 27, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
So far, I do not believe in the new coin that states as the next Bitcoin or the top altcoins. For, they are only leading or attracting us to be interested in the projects, buying the coins, and then we will not know what will happen to the coin. This is as usual. making it hype to attract people. Just be more careful and try to research more about the con before investing.
But there's no need investing in it. That's the point. You can mine it simply running the soft and it doesn't slow down the PC. That's why I'm interested in it as for now it's a little scary for me to invest in something. I just bought some btc when it was about 6000 as I know that it will rise again. And for this coin it's more profitable to mine it.
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Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: OptimusPrime on December 27, 2019, 02:52:22 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.
What if I tell you that you have absolutely no point on what you have just said? I mean what is wrong with you? Don't yiubread or make research before coming in here to make such post? 
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on January 04, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
there are so many projects like that. nothing looks different form the rest and if it is not bitcoin, it will never be bitcoin. we should focus on other better quality project.  we will see more of that and they will not last long as usual.
Can you name some other similar services? Just interested to check. As I don't know anything with the same big number of functions and seen no similar news. Maybe I'll change my mind on that.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Andruha1993 on January 05, 2020, 09:24:51 AM
Thank you for briefly but detailed information about this. I also heard a lot about it, but did not dare to try. Because I’m just afraid. I hope someone here from the forum tries and then tells us.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zack777 on January 05, 2020, 10:49:11 AM
This is news to me.
It's better to be careful with any new things.
Not sure what their pushing wallet contains...
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on January 12, 2020, 05:16:40 PM
Thank you for briefly but detailed information about this. I also heard a lot about it, but did not dare to try. Because I’m just afraid. I hope someone here from the forum tries and then tells us.
I'm using it now as it's not scary just to try without doing anything illegal there. Of course the number of functions is interesting, but everything works inside the soft only. So you have to invite many people to use it in full.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on January 13, 2020, 04:18:21 PM
This is news to me.
It's better to be careful with any new things.
Not sure what their pushing wallet contains...
It seems that the soft is okay on the whole. But the coin wasn't released till now, even its value isn't known. That's the most interesting point as till it doesn't have a mobile version it can't be used as a main messenger for example.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: aiviaa485 on January 16, 2020, 03:37:18 AM
Bitcoin will not become a SCAM because Bitcoin has its own copyright and this is a natural force created by Satoshi Nakamoto.
I also see that this is the digital world that is needed in Industry 4.0 and Bitcoin is a pioneer for Blockchain, to be the word "SCAM" is very far away.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on January 18, 2020, 08:28:47 PM
Bitcoin will not become a SCAM because Bitcoin has its own copyright and this is a natural force created by Satoshi Nakamoto.
I also see that this is the digital world that is needed in Industry 4.0 and Bitcoin is a pioneer for Blockchain, to be the word "SCAM" is very far away.
Bitcoin wasn't mentioned as scam. It was about that inner Utopia coin that is actively mined by all the users now. On the one hand, it can't be a scam now as it doesn't have any value yet as I know. But on the other hand, who knows what will happen next.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on January 20, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
Thank you for briefly but detailed information about this. I also heard a lot about it, but did not dare to try. Because I’m just afraid. I hope someone here from the forum tries and then tells us.
What are you afraid of? If you don't want to do any dark business here you can try it easily. People are using Telegram, WhatsApp and other messengers, giving them personal info. And here everyone are afraid.
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Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: sturec22 on January 23, 2020, 09:45:04 AM
There are several projects with the same features, what differentiates this one? I have never heard this project before, considering it has been up since 2013 it makes me a little suspicious, maybe it is great. I would love to be a part of it, I hate being tracked, I hate using facebook - I do not use it for fun I only use it for bounties.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on January 23, 2020, 04:02:08 PM
There are several projects with the same features, what differentiates this one? I have never heard this project before, considering it has been up since 2013 it makes me a little suspicious, maybe it is great. I would love to be a part of it, I hate being tracked, I hate using facebook - I do not use it for fun I only use it for bounties.
Maybe you're telling about another soft? This one was released in November, 2019 only. It's quite new and that's why you hadn't heard of it probably. But I think you have to try. You'll earn some crypto on mining there.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Luckyperson21 on January 23, 2020, 05:19:43 PM
Obviously we are all afraid because there is no openness. The team is not clear. Roadmap. We all understand that. Different when a few years before that was easily fooled. There are almost no more scam projects this month.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Delgboke on January 26, 2020, 03:34:03 AM
There have been alot of cryptocurrency project that came up with lucrative promises concerning their project but of no avail with all the promises they promise the community I think they are no way to be found in the cryptocurrency world. Have turn scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: wanggober on January 26, 2020, 03:17:33 PM
That's a scam. There will be no bitcoin to 2. There is only 1 bitcoin and no one can compete with bitcoin. Moreover, we do not know what Utopia is engaged in. Blockchain, ethereum or its own network, like several other altcoins.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on January 27, 2020, 03:40:43 PM
That's a scam. There will be no bitcoin to 2. There is only 1 bitcoin and no one can compete with bitcoin. Moreover, we do not know what Utopia is engaged in. Blockchain, ethereum or its own network, like several other altcoins.
You can check the soft and you'll see that Utopia has its own new coin. It's not connected to any existing ones. So it's strange you say such things even not checking the topic.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: MUGNIA on January 27, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
That's a scam. There will be no bitcoin to 2. There is only 1 bitcoin and no one can compete with bitcoin. Moreover, we do not know what Utopia is engaged in. Blockchain, ethereum or its own network, like several other altcoins.
You can check the soft and you'll see that Utopia has its own new coin. It's not connected to any existing ones. So it's strange you say such things even not checking the topic.
new coins ????  What kind of coin has the same value as bitcoin?  , I find it hard to listen to the opinions of all those on this board, can you give a description of the utopia project itself!
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on February 04, 2020, 12:28:50 PM
You can find all the info on its website or check the press release on the numerous websites. For example check the one published by Cryptodaily (https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2019/12/the-utopia-p2p-network-with-encrypted-messenger-and-cryptocurrency-is-now-live)
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on February 09, 2020, 12:36:25 PM
He wasn't so interested in it :) Just came to say few words and disappear forever. As many do. Guys, any news on coin value? Some exchangers appeared in channels but how do they know the price?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on February 10, 2020, 09:48:10 PM
I think they're simple scammers which pay nothing for all you've mined. People are happy they received real money already no matter it's not much and those guys are waiting for a release date and will have enough crp to earn well.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Uina on February 11, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
There is no such thing as the next Bitcoin so if ever there is someone claiming to be, that would be a scam.
I think I've heard something about this in the past but probably because it isn't worth any attention to crypto people it just comes and goes after getting some money or so.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on February 15, 2020, 04:09:30 PM
There is no such thing as the next Bitcoin so if ever there is someone claiming to be, that would be a scam.
I think I've heard something about this in the past but probably because it isn't worth any attention to crypto people it just comes and goes after getting some money or so.
How can it be a scam while I already exchanged some crypton to usd and it worked. Moreover it's mined easily without slowing down the PC. So it's a good way to earn extra money.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: tingo on February 17, 2020, 01:31:11 AM
Hi, It seems all you believe there will be "no new crypto-currency" at all!
we all knew about Bitcoin's flaws and consequently there must be an alternative descendant to fit our needs.
lack of privacy, limited TPS, Arms race & energy consumption, ASIC centralization,... and most important draw back (in my POV) which is governing the protocol and software by a limited group of core developers.
These are all leads us to think about alternative (or complementary) coins.
would exist a coin to support all these?
The answer is YES.
what do you think?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Delgboke on February 17, 2020, 06:09:13 AM
New cryptocurrency project must emerge despite your last experience with crypto project, people must try new things even though the previous project fail, that doesn't mean that people will completely runaway from investment to cryptocurrency project.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on February 17, 2020, 11:36:53 AM
Hi, It seems all you believe there will be "no new crypto-currency" at all!
we all knew about Bitcoin's flaws and consequently there must be an alternative descendant to fit our needs.
lack of privacy, limited TPS, Arms race & energy consumption, ASIC centralization,... and most important draw back (in my POV) which is governing the protocol and software by a limited group of core developers.
These are all leads us to think about alternative (or complementary) coins.
would exist a coin to support all these?
The answer is YES.
what do you think?

You're right for sure. It seems like people believe in 3 major crypto coins and all the other stuff seems to be a scam for them. You'll never know until you try. Ofc btc is more attractive due to the popularity and rates, but not all of us have enough free money to invest and get a good income. So that's why we should givea chance to other coins also.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Ezzi on February 17, 2020, 02:53:07 PM
I am distrustful of such sites, especially new startups. The risk is very high that the project will close. The main reason most often lies in the inability to organize the financial activities of the company. Nevertheless, I wish you all success
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Coin63@ on February 17, 2020, 02:59:25 PM
Obviously next version bitcoin scam... Bitcoin is only bitcoin there is no alternative bitcoin version. But bitcoin have its derivatives bitcoin classic, bitcoin diamond, bitcoin cash, bitcoin cash sv, bitcoin cash abc are the derivatives of bitcoin and they are 100% legit. So if any bitcoin 1 or 2 is really scam and worthless.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: sampoerna on February 18, 2020, 11:40:55 PM
Mamy projects claim as the next Bitcoin. And in my opinion, it is a standard bullshit that we can look at
 Being like a bitcoin is very difficult. We must face every condition of the project progress
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Ezzi on February 19, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
My opinion is that I believe in different startups, I can’t fully advise this project, but still I think that they will succeed. Good idea and team. I will follow the project, and you will follow?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: zombieroadie on February 21, 2020, 03:23:26 PM
Might be both. Well, next bitcoin unlikely though... In crypto you can't predict things, so just relax and use something more reliable for now. Time will tell
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Paha87 on February 22, 2020, 05:27:11 AM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.


We all have the right to choose guys!! Giving away or not disclosing your personal data is a very personal matter and I don't think you should worry so much about it my friend. We have been under the hood for 10 years and I don't see any reason to worry. If you are not a fraudster and do not interfere with anyone's life, then people in uniform will never come to you and ask you to drive with them, I hope you understand me?)
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: endlasuresh on February 22, 2020, 08:00:36 AM
Bitcoin will not become a SCAM because Bitcoin has its own copyright and this is a natural force created by Satoshi Nakamoto.
I also see that this is the digital world that is needed in Industry 4.0 and Bitcoin is a pioneer for Blockchain, to be the word "SCAM" is very far away.
I agree that Bitcoin will never become scam, however the price may not fall down apparently.
People talk as they wish and they even don't know what is the word called SCAM or how it turn out into SCAM.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on February 24, 2020, 12:48:38 PM
My opinion is that I believe in different startups, I can’t fully advise this project, but still I think that they will succeed. Good idea and team. I will follow the project, and you will follow?
I'm already using it and I'm quite satisfied. Just need a mobile version to invite more friends there. Seems to be the first project that really cares about anonymity of users. Lots of others already show their faces.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on February 25, 2020, 10:58:44 AM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.


We all have the right to choose guys!! Giving away or not disclosing your personal data is a very personal matter and I don't think you should worry so much about it my friend. We have been under the hood for 10 years and I don't see any reason to worry. If you are not a fraudster and do not interfere with anyone's life, then people in uniform will never come to you and ask you to drive with them, I hope you understand me?)

It's not really about some people in uniform, I just don't want anyone to scan and access my photos and messages. That's it. And what concerns the police, nowadays you can be caught even for a wrong meme you'll publish. People got too much into religion and personal things like feminism, personal identity, etc. that every joke on it now can be understood like harassment. Too bad.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Ezzi on February 26, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
I already wrote my opinion about such projects. There is a lot of scam now and the altcoin market is not in the best condition. Maybe the project will take place, but you should be careful
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on February 28, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
Not every new altcoin can present a starting value 1 to 1 with dollar. Moreover not every altcoin can be mined so easy. Where's scam here? Have no idea.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
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Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on March 03, 2020, 12:06:09 PM
Guys, sharing with you a blog https://utopiaecosystem.com/ that I've found recently. You can find the latest news, releases and activities there. They offer coins to competition winners and the amounts are really good sometimes.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on March 09, 2020, 04:24:19 PM
Wow, thanks! I've found the answers to some of my questions there. It's really nice. Moreover I'm surprised with the amounts that were gifted to some competition winners. It's really quite big. Want to participate in something also. It will be a good add on to the mined amount.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Istiak on March 09, 2020, 04:48:09 PM
I am hearing it for the first time. What is this project all about? And also I think its everyone's own choice they will give their personal data or not. No one is forcing them about it. So if you think its a scam then show some more proof about it so that community can understand you are telling the truth.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on March 10, 2020, 11:16:31 AM
I am hearing it for the first time. What is this project all about? And also I think its everyone's own choice they will give their personal data or not. No one is forcing them about it. So if you think its a scam then show some more proof about it so that community can understand you are telling the truth.

It's really interesting as it includes chat, mail, browser and mining all-in-one. Moreover it's totally encrypted and doesn't ask for any personal data. Have no idea why do people think it's scam.. I hadn't seen any negative happenings till now. What concerns the inner coin, it wasn't officially released yet, but you can easily mine it. So seems to be nice soft.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Morrower on March 13, 2020, 03:07:22 PM
Any news on coin release? I've read that it has to be 3.5$ already. Any proofs? Releases? Etc? I have quite a good amount of mined ones already and want to use it somehow. Not just hold.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Asebaby on March 14, 2020, 04:57:36 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.
It's all about new innovations lzkeeping information safe and secured without been exposed to a third party, that's a nice concept I guess. Hope it does pretty well.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on March 17, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
Why exactly the bucks? I think it would be better to equate to bitcoin, isn't it? Although, of course, he seems to be losing his position, but still remains the main crypt.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on March 21, 2020, 02:52:40 PM
Bitcoin is totally unstable. If all the coins will be connected to btc it will be a disaster. Ofc, usually all the coins ale losing positions all together, but not equal. So it HAS to be linked to some more or less stable fiat.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on March 23, 2020, 04:00:22 PM
But the dollar is unstable too. Especially now in the context of the upcoming crisis. Am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Muneeb22 on March 23, 2020, 05:34:24 PM
Bitcoin is just the one not so many bitcoins are in the market but i hope that in the future in just a single year Bitcoin will make a pump and the peoples whose invest their money in the market they will make good profit in it.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Jaguar on March 26, 2020, 11:48:02 AM
Where that coin now?
See, no altcoins can defeat bitcoin.
Presumption is good.
Prediction is good.
But we need an outcome.
The result speak louder than predictions.
Bitcoin remain the most powerful.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on March 28, 2020, 07:19:32 PM
Where that coin now?
See, no altcoins can defeat bitcoin.
Presumption is good.
Prediction is good.
But we need an outcome.
The result speak louder than predictions.
Bitcoin remain the most powerful.

It almost reached 2$ already and may reach 3$ in the nearest time. It's amazing, taking in consideration the fact that before the corona began and while bitcoin was hardly losing positions, Crypton remained on the same value and started to rise. So you should think of starting to mine it.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on March 30, 2020, 11:39:14 AM
Yes, I have studied several articles about this and am thinking of starting mining today or tomorrow, because it seems to me that I can be lucky in this.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on April 04, 2020, 12:29:31 PM
Yes, I have studied several articles about this and am thinking of starting mining today or tomorrow, because it seems to me that I can be lucky in this.
That's so easy that you should definitely try it out. Just run the soft and it will mine on its own. When you'll get enough, there are many channels dedicated to exchange of Crypton, so withdrawal will be also easy. Moreover, join a COVID-19 chat with news and discussions on the disease. Let's be together.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on April 08, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Hm, that seems interesting. Tell me, what about the speed of the PC? I know that usually during mining the speed of a computer drops very much. Does this application slow it down too?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on April 14, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
No, it doesn't if you simply run the miner. But if you'll run additional mining bots, it can slower for sure. Everything depends on your PC characteristics. So just try it out and you'll see.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on April 17, 2020, 12:48:04 PM
Oh, I remembered. I also wanted to ask about the impression after using in general? For the entire period of use, any bugs or problems appeared? Can you list the cons?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on April 21, 2020, 01:49:56 PM
I've found one small bug once, but after my report it was fixed with the next update. So I really have nothing to complain for. That's not very convenient that all the functions have no connection to anything outside the soft, but it's the price for our security.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: tingo on April 22, 2020, 09:48:33 PM
The new coin shouldn’t be necessarily an scam. If emerged some project to fix Bitcoin drawbacks and extend the features, it will be the next Bitcoin. Believing that, I wanna list some of good features of Bitcoin and shortcomings too in order to address a next Bitcoin, or better word matured Bitcoin.

No ICO, No IPO: No one bought Bitcoin from Satoshi, nor from a company or corporation. People mined Bitcoin, because of their willingness to have an open, peer-to-peer money. It was the success secret of Bitcoin. If a new coin is going to distributed through ICO, IPO most probably has nothing to tell except if it has a great idea or functionality behind and unfortunately most of them have not. Even Ethereum after years didn’t succeed the promises. By investigate on hundred different project, their white-paper and the coin prices, it should be clear most of them have nothing to tell. They are failed. Simply because they did monkey business.

Monetary policy: now a day we all know the maximum coin supply for Bitcoin will be 21 million, But this fix number doesn’t work well. We need another type of fix supply or better, we need a predictable coin supply which can be regulated but not freely printing money out of thin air. What about if the coin supply be a number between 50 to 100 coins and each round the community decides about the minting coins? Maybe 50 or maybe 61 and in case of hyper deflation 100 coins per cycle. In such a way while the coin appreciate it’s scarcity -therefor it’s value- the pump and dump can not shock the market. So the coin became more valuable “gradually”.

Decentralization: Bitcoin came with the idea of “one CPU one vote” which is not the case any more. The next Bitcoin must find a solution to be more democratic and decentralized. Now a day a small set of miners (mining pools) with investing millions can govern the “PROTOCOL” which is not bad but definitely is not the Bitcoin’s promises. There is also another anti-democratic aspect of Bitcoin. dominant of an small set of developers, particularly a corporation (Blockstream) . In fact the Blockstream controls what feature must be added/removed to/from Bitcoin.
 
Functionality: Bitcoin introduced itself as a peer-to-peer payment system and not more. Having this feature as a first cryptocurrency is awesome, but having only this feature after 10 years is not that great. Time by time developers found new possibilities and created new coin which has more features... finished to Ethereum which addresses flexible smart contract feature. And who know, the new system can offer even more practical features! Some features to addressing the real-world problems instead of fancy fantastic hypothetical solutions.

Usability & Applicability: Bitcoin as a coin, didn’t distributed well. So if the narrow set of people have the coins and most of them Hodle it, the coin never will be a good medium of exchanges. Look at fiat currencies. Governments by creating the demand (in form of Tax) runs their national currencies while in Bitcoin despite speculators, there is not any real demand. Businesses do not want Bitcoin because of their margin profit is usually less than volatility of Bitcoin. New coin must create demand alongside the coin emergence.

Complicated to participate: it is a serious barrier of popularity of cryptocurrencies. Since the early movers on this technology (despite the speculators which typically have no technical skills) could be developers with deep understanding the promises (and not greed to be millionaire over night) and spreading the core values of Bitcoin, Bitcoin was not enough successful to educate and convince the community about the reason of emerging. And because of that now Bitcoin is controlled by miners and exchanges. They do Pump/Dump over and over until you lost your last cents and leave the market. You as a normal user have no power to govern it, if you mind it. So the next Bitcoin have to have a simplest programming language and more welcoming policy for developers and community.

This post will be too long if I continue, but let stop it and introduce a new coin. It could be the matured Bitcoin, eliminating the flaws and supporting more functionalities, concentrated to solve “real problem” of “real world”. That is “supporting Open movement” including Open software, Open internet, Open science, Open technology, Open money and finally Open societies.
By having Open societies we can fight with poverty and inequality in the world.
Having an store of value which appreciate it’s value by time and not de-valuate.
These are main promises of new coin called “imagine” emerged to address better world and human prosperity. It is open to participate and make it better. It id open to gain from it. It is open to benefit humanity.

You like to join the imagine’s network? Good, You can download project from this link.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=59898319367204937352

If you haven’t enough technical skills to run a node, please ask help from your friends/professionals… I think it worth. For you, for us, and for our children.

Some technical notes:
- The software is & will be open and free
- imagine does not use Prof of Work(PoW), instead uses PoS which I prefer interpret it to Proof of Solidarity in which who dedicates more time for community and world, earns more.
- The data structure used by imagine is DAG, so it is better to call it a graph-chain instead of blockchain. Using DAG empowers imagine to be scalable and validate million of transactions per seconds. The famous double-spending problem is resolved by customized CAP theorem. You can read more on imagine’s wiki.
- at the moment imagine supports M-of-N-Multi-Signature-Transaction which is imagine’s general transaction. Regards to imagine’s architecture it is easy to add new type of transaction supporting. e.g. MimbleWimble or ZKSnarks...
- in order to being really censorship-resistant, and really decentralized, imagine uses email as a carrier (not TCP/IP and port connections). It looks crazy but it works perfectly, and in our customized implementation it is even more scalable than TCP/IP! Thanks free speech defenders we still can have anonymous email without reveal our identity which is not possible with static IPs or even dynamic IPs.
- again in order to being really censorship-resistant, and really decentralized, imagine has it’s own Flexible name service (FleNS, by which you can register any combination of letters e.g. email, nickname, weird IDs…) and use this address for payments, sending messages, wallet communications, redirect visitors to a host IP address… these registered iNames can not be ceased by no authority and will be ONLY under your control for ever.
- also imagine has it’s embedded distributed wiki and embedded distributed discussion forums.
- once again in order to being really censorship-resistant, and really decentralized, imagine uses block-graph to maintain source code history (pretty much like a source version control software) and planned to have it’s own full-fledged decentralized version control software as an optional plugin for clients. So imagine does not use GitHub or any other version control system as repository. Developers can download code changes by exploring block-graph and can use whatever version control on their local machine.
- entire communication between nodes are encrypted by iPGP (user friendly implementation of PGP).
- because of the way imagine is designed, users can register any type of data(text, media, binary, BLOB...) in block-graph.
- imagine is implemented in JavaScript in order to have more code readability and vast contributors community. The related technologies are Node.js, Angular(probably will be replaced by vue.js), postgresql(can be changed to other relational DBs). So the installation and running a full-node will be very fast and easy, even for non experienced C++ developers.
- by running an imagine  full node, you will have a client which communicate to imagine’s network through imagine’s protocol, and a web interface to manage your wallet and explore blocks/transactions/documents, vote for proposals or propose an idea, register your desired iName, participate in discussions...
- imagine planned to develop it’s mobile app, which will support entire desktop functionality, specially messenger and discussion Forums.


Some links to read more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/defi/comments/g1yb68/defi_as_a_tool_to_amplify_humanity/
https://community.hackernoon.com/t/why-i-had-to-create-a-new-crypto-value-and-how-it-finished/34372/12
https://www.reddit.com/r/cooperatives/comments/g2q16i/cooperative_moneyvalue_presenter_to_amplify/


Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Noverteno on April 23, 2020, 07:10:22 AM
I have not heard anything about this. how at least this coin will be called, so that I would understand what I mean in the future?
The coin is called Crypton and I see lots of new press releases on web so it seems that guys are seriously thinking to become the next popular app. Have no idea how would they reach it.
There will never be a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, if only because our world does not stand still and is constantly evolving. Yes, and Bitcoin itself, having fulfilled the role of the first cryptocurrency, if it does not develop and maintain its competitiveness, may lose its role as the leader of the cryptocurrency.
Among the cryptocurrencies, promising, useless, and even fraudulent will constantly appear. The cryptocurrency market itself will give them all an assessment, which is left only by those who will be in demand.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: hushpupppy on April 23, 2020, 09:19:06 AM
Anything aside from Litecoin blockchain should not answer the word next bitcoin.
Because only litecoin to me, has come close in terms of comparison amongst others.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on April 23, 2020, 05:22:50 PM
Anything aside from Litecoin blockchain should not answer the word next bitcoin.
Because only litecoin to me, has come close in terms of comparison amongst others.

Is Litecoin rising now? Hadn't it lost any positions after Covid situation began? As I see that Crypton is only rising as it seems not connected to the whole market. It's easy to mine and to withdraw. So why not?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on April 24, 2020, 11:59:58 AM
Did you have problems connecting to the server a couple of days ago? And then I was even scared, I thought that I was banned
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: aji678 on April 24, 2020, 11:51:19 PM
all projects need transparency, when the project you find is not a team, or the whitepaper clarity you leave immediately. we all know that some of the projects are likely to be scams. but stay alert and choose the best.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Prime on April 25, 2020, 11:29:14 PM
Personally I don't agree with everything stated as the next Bitcoin. This is only the way to make such hype and then heading to shitcoin. Better to trust the coin that is really worthy and proven in the market
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on April 30, 2020, 12:02:25 PM
Did you have problems connecting to the server a couple of days ago? And then I was even scared, I thought that I was banned

I don't think it's possible to be banned there. Do you run the soft on your PC or via the virtual machine? I had no interruptions. Try to update it to the latest version. Maybe it would help.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on May 04, 2020, 01:43:34 PM
By the way, I have thoughts on this subject. If you can’t be banned in this application, does this mean that it can easily be used for illegal actions? After all, there is no way to control this.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on May 08, 2020, 04:02:47 PM
By the way, I have thoughts on this subject. If you can’t be banned in this application, does this mean that it can easily be used for illegal actions? After all, there is no way to control this.

Probably yes. Developers have no access to user's data, which means they couldn't delete anything illegal from there. It's strange, but I hadn't seen any kind of dark market there. Maybe it's hidden on inner websites, but all the other stuff is clear.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on May 11, 2020, 02:19:04 PM
YES, you’re absolutely right. Nowhere in the chats have I found any strange or illegal offers to buy something, etc. ... Hmm, maybe there is something on web pages, but frankly, I haven’t seen any web pages in general ... legal or not
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on May 17, 2020, 07:07:48 PM
I also can't find any inner website there. Already inspected all the channels, but found nothing. Only dozens of exchangers. At least it's nice to know that mined coin can be withdrawn easily.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: gotbounty on May 17, 2020, 11:44:10 PM
In my opinion, new coin or project thay claims itself to be the next bitcoin will be probably shitcoin or scam only. How can a new coin survive and act like btc? This is radiculus comparison between BTC and that new coin. Personally I do not believe in that kind of promotion
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on May 18, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Yes, it’s quite possible, web pages exist, they simply spread between a certain group of people. Therefore, it is impossible to find them without knowing the address.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: debra on May 18, 2020, 11:48:42 PM
Scam maybe. Because scammer will say a very legit things. And the next bitcoin is not that coin
.it is only how they atract the investorsl
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on May 24, 2020, 02:37:18 PM
In my opinion, new coin or project thay claims itself to be the next bitcoin will be probably shitcoin or scam only. How can a new coin survive and act like btc? This is radiculus comparison between BTC and that new coin. Personally I do not believe in that kind of promotion

Strange point of view, I can call everything scam without trying. What concerns the CRP, I've already withdrawn the mined coins to my PM wallet. And it worked. As I know also, no investors were called in order to promote the coin. Its value rises due to its mining progress. And that's pretty nice.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: UNIVERSE on May 24, 2020, 11:46:47 PM
Whatever named the next Bitcoin, I believe that it is a shitcoin or scam. Bitcoin is the king and a new coin will never compete with it. Let's say BCH, ETH, LTC, and other top coins, they cannot compete for BTC as well. How can a new coin do that? Be careful, scammers are watching
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on May 25, 2020, 10:34:25 AM
In my opinion, new coin or project thay claims itself to be the next bitcoin will be probably shitcoin or scam only. How can a new coin survive and act like btc? This is radiculus comparison between BTC and that new coin. Personally I do not believe in that kind of promotion

Strange point of view, I can call everything scam without trying. What concerns the CRP, I've already withdrawn the mined coins to my PM wallet. And it worked. As I know also, no investors were called in order to promote the coin. Its value rises due to its mining progress. And that's pretty nice.
agree! I managed to successfully exchange сrypton for dollars, perfect money and even bitcoin, in fact, I just had to look in the chat rooms for the people who offer the exchange ... So I see no reason to consider this cryptocurrency unrealistic or unreliable.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on May 27, 2020, 05:11:55 PM
And there won't be any doubts as it was already listed on the trading platform https://www.qbtc.me/trade?symbol=CRP_USDT so for all those who thought it's a scam - it is not. Yes, the price is quite low, but don't forget that it's just a beginning. I'll create some additional bots in order to mine more.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Bartman89 on May 28, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
Your all going on about crypto being anonymous yet most people dealing with crypto probably have an account that you have had to sign up using an email address and verify your account with driving license or passport etc...

So although your initial transaction may seem anonymous your bitcoin account is linked to an account in your name.

Think about it logically
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on May 28, 2020, 11:37:03 AM
Eventually many bitcoin appear named bitcoin cash, bitcoin diamond, bitcoin maxx.... But next bitcoin also such types but all derivatives never bull some are shitcoin also... Next bitcoin will be shit.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: zendicator on May 28, 2020, 05:18:05 PM
I never heard of that to be honest. For me, no one can replace bitcoin. Bitcoin will stay in the top one because it is created as a store of value. There are many projects offering services like lightning fast trasnsactions per second but they are not created as a store of value.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on June 01, 2020, 02:10:11 PM
And there won't be any doubts as it was already listed on the trading platform https://www.qbtc.me/trade?symbol=CRP_USDT so for all those who thought it's a scam - it is not. Yes, the price is quite low, but don't forget that it's just a beginning. I'll create some additional bots in order to mine more.
Interesting .. well, but now you do not need to look for people, inside the application, who will exchange krypton for the coin that you need. You can just do it on the exchange, quickly and easily.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: voodQ on June 01, 2020, 02:13:44 PM
Scam

You can google for "bitcoin killer" or "next bitcoin" and will found hundreds same coins
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on June 07, 2020, 04:01:15 PM
Scam

You can google for "bitcoin killer" or "next bitcoin" and will found hundreds same coins

What's the point speaking about googling something, while we discuss one exact coin here. I've already linked to it being listed on a trading platform. Isn't it a sign that it's not a scam? Moreover no one asks you to invest in that as you can simply mine it without any losses.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zemytha on June 07, 2020, 07:20:24 PM
I have often come across projects like that. They claim to exceed the top coin. In fact, they are only Ponzi. Watch out for those who are new to the crypto world. The Ponzi way is very subtle to invite people.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on June 08, 2020, 02:17:07 PM
I also decided to google the information about this application and found a whole fan site  https://utopia.fans/ (https://utopia.fans/) . Apparently, someone created a whole community dedicated to Utopia and Krypton with an indication of the current exchange rate. It looks interesting.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Alter on June 08, 2020, 03:19:15 PM
I have often come across projects like that. They claim to exceed the top coin. In fact, they are only Ponzi.
Yeah, there are many projects like that, I have experienced some of them, so be careful. I am not pessimistic with new coins but not really sure to invest currently. Bitcoin is the real safe crypto asset, I think. No doubt it is like the main coin in crypto space.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: shadowdio on June 08, 2020, 03:37:36 PM
I never heard about utopia and I don't think if this is the next bitcoin because many devs claiming that their coin will be the next bitcoin or beating bitcoin in the future but still nothing happened.. bitcoin is still no. 1, even ethereum can not beat it.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on June 12, 2020, 02:10:49 PM
I have often come across projects like that. They claim to exceed the top coin. In fact, they are only Ponzi.
Yeah, there are many projects like that, I have experienced some of them, so be careful. I am not pessimistic with new coins but not really sure to invest currently. Bitcoin is the real safe crypto asset, I think. No doubt it is like the main coin in crypto space.

I still don't understand why do all of you speak about investments?? Crypton doesn't require any investments. All you have to do is to mine it without any slowing or huge electricity bills. That's why it's simply impossible to be a scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: I-Bit on June 12, 2020, 11:16:28 PM
In my opinion, if they're an iso said that bitcoin is better than others, it is true. But if they said that they are the next of BTC, I think that it should be down to the earth, trying to deceive the victims from ensuring that they are scams or legit BTC.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on June 15, 2020, 11:08:46 AM
I suppose that in most frauds the developers asked to somehow finance the project or purchase something, so many people think that in the case of Utopia and krypton there will be something similar. In fact, it’s just worth reading a little more about the creators of the application in order to understand that they would not have been creating a scam for 5 years.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Rakin343 on June 15, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Never heard of this coin. How old is it exactly?
I am also don't hear this coin. Many bitcoin derivatives coins launched in ico or preico scam... Bitcoin maxx such kind of scam coin and next bitcoin will be shit.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on June 18, 2020, 02:43:28 PM
I suppose that in most frauds the developers asked to somehow finance the project or purchase something, so many people think that in the case of Utopia and krypton there will be something similar. In fact, it’s just worth reading a little more about the creators of the application in order to understand that they would not have been creating a scam for 5 years.

Fully agree. And the point that the Utopia platform is self financed and never asked any investors for money, seems that it can leave forever, till people will use it and mine Crypton. I know that there's more than 100 000 active users already and that's quite a lot. Interesting if the time will come when people would know Utopia as wide as they know WhatsApp now, for example.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on June 22, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
YES, it would be interesting to look at. Only, of course, it’s worth understanding that everything will not be  fast, because without additional financing and paying for advertising, only the social chain will work.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Michael.sol on June 22, 2020, 06:24:39 PM
I didn't Think That this type of projects working well and profitable to its user . Anyway for a kind information this section is not right place for this kind of post . Hopefully for other post you will understand it .
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on June 24, 2020, 04:59:49 PM
I didn't Think That this type of projects working well and profitable to its user . Anyway for a kind information this section is not right place for this kind of post . Hopefully for other post you will understand it .

I don't understand what's wrong with the post.. We're discussing a new coin that gets more and more popular. In a row with a coin we've got a great all-in-one soft. I was waiting for something similar for a long time and now want to share the idea and ask other people's meaning.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: azmirihaque on June 25, 2020, 04:45:51 AM
You have pointed out very important matters. Many dishonest people are trying to scam in the crypto market and we have experienced such activities many times. So, we should be very careful about it. Specially when different alluring offers come from new or unknown sources, we should think and justify more and more before taking the facility. We cannot avoid the crypto market but we should learn to avoid the scamming project.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on June 29, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
I didn't Think That this type of projects working well and profitable to its user . Anyway for a kind information this section is not right place for this kind of post . Hopefully for other post you will understand it .

I don't understand what's wrong with the post.. We're discussing a new coin that gets more and more popular. In a row with a coin we've got a great all-in-one soft. I was waiting for something similar for a long time and now want to share the idea and ask other people's meaning.



Yes, I agree with you. At a minimum, this is convenient when you use an all-in-one application. Secondly, in 2020 it is time to think about your security and data privacy. And with this application, you can do this without starting to use, for example, Darknet.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on July 02, 2020, 01:53:37 PM
You have pointed out very important matters. Many dishonest people are trying to scam in the crypto market and we have experienced such activities many times. So, we should be very careful about it. Specially when different alluring offers come from new or unknown sources, we should think and justify more and more before taking the facility. We cannot avoid the crypto market but we should learn to avoid the scamming project.

It's not so hard as it may seem to be. You can google any app or coin and look for reviews and information on the whole. If there are 10 pages of youtube reviews, news on trusted websites and discussions on forums, I think it couldn't be a scam as it's a big job that costs a lot of money. And if you see only few mentions - then it will be 99% scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on July 06, 2020, 04:46:56 PM
Oh, I'm sorry I wedged into the conversation, but thanks for the helpful information. For the future, it will come in handy for me!
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Stuart on July 06, 2020, 07:50:02 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.

You’ll be watched by Big Brother   the Utopia website said When you use Utopia Big Brother is no longer watching you.
They crypto space is for every new ideas, innovative minds. New things can be so astonishing, and at same time, could be desastrous too, since bitcoin or crypto is almost in everything P2P, where there is no third party, I see no much difference with this project too.
Outside the crypto space, most people from different countries who has no access to some websites because of difference in IP Address will love this project.

At the part of giving out personal data, that will be a very wrong idea, cause the word ANONYMOUS remains unknown, so, if you become known in the game, then sorry.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: bigcash2011 on July 06, 2020, 08:43:05 PM
Personally i give the project negative marks if they use terms lile next bitcoin or next ethereum similarly btc or eth killer because it is a cheap marketing tactic to get attention at online forums and social media platforms and such platforms do not really work mostly.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on July 08, 2020, 03:09:19 PM
Personally i give the project negative marks if they use terms lile next bitcoin or next ethereum similarly btc or eth killer because it is a cheap marketing tactic to get attention at online forums and social media platforms and such platforms do not really work mostly.

You can simply check the soft in order to understand that it will work for sure. The fact that it's self-financed and based on their own blockchain, means that the soft will never disappear. And as it already has more than 100 000 active users, it's quite perspective, I guess.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on July 13, 2020, 04:20:51 PM
Personally i give the project negative marks if they use terms lile next bitcoin or next ethereum similarly btc or eth killer because it is a cheap marketing tactic to get attention at online forums and social media platforms and such platforms do not really work mostly.
Well, yes, the software itself makes a good impression. A self-financing system that does not require any investments from users, but offers only anonymous cyber space.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on July 16, 2020, 11:20:22 AM
Well, yes, the software itself makes a good impression. A self-financing system that does not require any investments from users, but offers only anonymous cyber space.

And what about its closed source? Many refuse to use the soft only because of that fact. People still believe that open source is security and closed source is a scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: syedrasool2011 on July 17, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
Bitcoin is future no scam and never in future every where bitcoin will use
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on July 20, 2020, 10:04:03 AM
Well, yes, the software itself makes a good impression. A self-financing system that does not require any investments from users, but offers only anonymous cyber space.

And what about its closed source? Many refuse to use the soft only because of that fact. People still believe that open source is security and closed source is a scam.
To be honest, I don't really understand this at all. The only thing I think is that closed source  is good because no one except the developers can make changes to it, which means they can make the work go wrong.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Jaephoenix on July 20, 2020, 10:54:45 AM
By default, I always have this abhorrence of any project that touts itself as The Next Bitcoin. That alone is a no-no to me, and I always try to steer clear of such hyping projects. They always fail
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: TERMINO on July 20, 2020, 08:37:38 PM
Bitcoin is future no scam and never in future every where bitcoin will use

More of the time Bitcoin use to scam people who don't  know how to determine scammer. Bitcoin itself is not scam but use to get scam so the people first impression is bad to Bitcoin. Be careful not to support bitcoin scammer.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on July 28, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
Well, yes, the software itself makes a good impression. A self-financing system that does not require any investments from users, but offers only anonymous cyber space.

And what about its closed source? Many refuse to use the soft only because of that fact. People still believe that open source is security and closed source is a scam.
To be honest, I don't really understand this at all. The only thing I think is that closed source  is good because no one except the developers can make changes to it, which means they can make the work go wrong.
Well, yes, of course, you're right. also do not forget that this is a decentralized p2p ecosystem, which is why it guarantees the highest level of data security. In general, I believe that the whole future of the modern Internet model lies behind decentralization.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on July 28, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Well, yes, the software itself makes a good impression. A self-financing system that does not require any investments from users, but offers only anonymous cyber space.

And what about its closed source? Many refuse to use the soft only because of that fact. People still believe that open source is security and closed source is a scam.
YES, you are probably right. I should learn a little more about decentralization as I don't know much about it.
To be honest, I don't really understand this at all. The only thing I think is that closed source  is good because no one except the developers can make changes to it, which means they can make the work go wrong.
Well, yes, of course, you're right. also do not forget that this is a decentralized p2p ecosystem, which is why it guarantees the highest level of data security. In general, I believe that the whole future of the modern Internet model lies behind decentralization.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: sirty143 on July 29, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
It's more than 6 months now since this thread started, so, what's the latest news about utopia? Is it really the next bitcoin or another scam project?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Triedboy on July 30, 2020, 11:17:46 AM
Next bitcoin is scam, I don't believe it.bitcoin really very good in side.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on July 30, 2020, 11:26:57 AM
It's more than 6 months now since this thread started, so, what's the latest news about utopia? Is it really the next bitcoin or another scam project?

The latest news is that the coin is now listed on trading platforms and is now available to all. The number of users rises, more coin is mined and the rate gets higher. Moreover, interesting fan site appeared and mobile application will be released soon. Seem quite nice.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Hope4life on July 30, 2020, 02:36:02 PM
What are you talking about? there is no one can take over bitcoin, i've seen every time when there is new project they always claim that they will become the next bitcoin and it's nothing happen and they end up exit scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Jaephoenix on July 30, 2020, 05:39:56 PM
If a project pops up and start screaming 'Next Bitcoin', I have my antenna up and usually view such as scammy to an extent. You have to earn your stripes to claim that. Bitcoin already did that
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on August 03, 2020, 01:02:23 PM
If a project pops up and start screaming 'Next Bitcoin', I have my antenna up and usually view such as scammy to an extent. You have to earn your stripes to claim that. Bitcoin already did that
Hmm, but it seemed to me that the main goal of this thread is just the discussion of a new potentially promising project and its cryptocurrency. Nobody can know what will happen in a couple of years. Well, clickbait titles are often used now.  ;D
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on August 07, 2020, 01:07:42 PM
What are you talking about? there is no one can take over bitcoin, i've seen every time when there is new project they always claim that they will become the next bitcoin and it's nothing happen and they end up exit scam.

Okay, then find me at least one news or thread or any other source telling Utopia p2p is a scam.Before making such conclusions, it's better to google it at least if you're afraid trying on your own. The critics should always take place, but only the one that has some proofs.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Ganesa99 on August 07, 2020, 02:14:51 PM
BTC is a cryptocurrency, also known as a decentralized digital currency (cryptocurrency, virtual currency, digital currency).
Considering from the user's perspective, it is quite similar to the currencies on e-wallets such as Momo, Airpay, ... that people use.
But its difference is decentralization.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: edmundo on August 07, 2020, 10:03:00 PM
We have all had crazy projects in the past claiming to be the next bitcoin but all of them have either failed or not live up to the hype/expectation. Most of this project developers will say anything just to get investors interested in their projects but the truth is, no project comes close to bitcoin and we may never have another project replicating the success of bitcoin simply because, it will be nearly impossible to achieve. Bitcoin has gained the popularity, acceptance and support and will always remain the number one cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: ansi on August 08, 2020, 02:55:01 AM
Nothing ill beat Bitcoin as it's the king & always will be.
Some other blockchains are making some serious partnerships (like Link), but they'll never reach the Bitcoin values bay any means.
that's the difference by being the one, the first, the king of all crypto & being a good blockchain that solves real life problems (like Link)
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: H2O on August 08, 2020, 04:40:33 AM
Besides bitcoin,, all bitcoin derivatives scam. So next bitcoin obviously scam and valueless.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Calantha on August 08, 2020, 05:27:25 AM
I affirm that Bitcoin is not a scam, it is completely transparent and public, you can buy / sell at any time at large and small exchanges, in Vietnam as well as around the world. Bitcoin is widely used not only by individuals, but also by major corporate companies in the world such as Microsoft, Newegg, PrivateFly, Overstock.com.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on August 08, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
I affirm that Bitcoin is not a scam, it is completely transparent and public, you can buy / sell at any time at large and small exchanges, in Vietnam as well as around the world. Bitcoin is widely used not only by individuals, but also by major corporate companies in the world such as Microsoft, Newegg, PrivateFly, Overstock.com.
all can say about bitcoin as a scam, but the circumstances have proven that bitcoin is very much interested and liked to be used as a future investment.
so bitcoin will not be affected by people who say but what is needed is proof rather than bitcoin itself. bitcoin can provide clear evidence in every transaction that continues to increase because trust in bitcoin continues to increase sharply.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: JackConnor on August 09, 2020, 07:11:13 PM
Also because of its relatively large value, many organizations have used Bitcoin to scam for their own gain. Once again, the value of Bitcoin's trust is challenged and it is subject to scrutiny from the Vietnamese trader community
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on August 14, 2020, 02:17:26 PM
For all those, who still doesn't believe in the idea of Utopia p2p, here's the official interview with its developers https://medium.com/@utopiaP2P/utopias-creators-speech-5dce0047a3d6 It seems that some questions were solved and we can now understand a little more about their main idea. It was quite interesting for me, especially knowing that they remain anonymous.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Augusta on August 14, 2020, 04:46:37 PM
Bitcoin is of a global scale and is used to buy many things with the same value as real money, and it can be exchanged for real money with great value, which is the largest valuable currency in the world. The reason I believe it is because it is widely used around the world and recognized by almost all countries
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on August 18, 2020, 11:59:33 AM
For all those, who still doesn't believe in the idea of Utopia p2p, here's the official interview with its developers https://medium.com/@utopiaP2P/utopias-creators-speech-5dce0047a3d6 It seems that some questions were solved and we can now understand a little more about their main idea. It was quite interesting for me, especially knowing that they remain anonymous.
Cool! Very interesting interview! I especially liked their ability to say enough, but not reveal their identity. By the way, it is very interesting to know who they are, because even the domain name of the site costs several thousand dollars. Where did they get so much money?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: smart_oa on August 18, 2020, 12:09:49 PM
I saw some people try to promote Utopia through the telegram ambassador program. I actually don't know what that is. There are many shit projects in the market that are using fake promotions for scamming people. We should be careful about them.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on August 24, 2020, 03:37:51 PM
Cool! Very interesting interview! I especially liked their ability to say enough, but not reveal their identity. By the way, it is very interesting to know who they are, because even the domain name of the site costs several thousand dollars. Where did they get so much money?

It isn't wondering at all as you can be or playing a programmer and build little apps just for fun, or you create something valuable in order to make great money. And of course it needs investments first and can take a lot until it will start bringing you money back.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on August 25, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
But I hadn't seen any ads on their websites. How do they plan to earn money on that soft? On mining and holding their coin? But it doesn't seem to rise fast. And I'm not sure they're ready to wait for years to get their money back.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on August 28, 2020, 03:22:49 PM
I've seen announcement in official social media that Crypton is going to be listed on BitForex. That will rise the interest and trust. And as a result, I believe that it would rise in value. I think it's good for developers and for all of us.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Keelin on August 29, 2020, 10:31:44 AM
Considering from the user's perspective, it is quite similar to the currencies on the e-wallets such as Momo, Airpay, ... that people use. so everyone can rest assured and use it
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on September 01, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
It's not very difficult. Each owner of a cryptocurrency is raising funds while the amount of cryptocurrency increases. I don’t know all the details, but the process is like this. At first I thought that the developers do not plan to make money on their software. But adding a coin to marketplaces shows the opposite.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on September 04, 2020, 03:39:41 PM
It will be strange to built such a software for nothing and don't earn anything on it. Adding the coin to CoinMarketCap https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/utopia/markets/ will bring it more trust and interest. So not only developers will earn money, but we can do it also.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on September 07, 2020, 04:35:20 PM
It will be strange to built such a software for nothing and don't earn anything on it. Adding the coin to CoinMarketCap https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/utopia/markets/ will bring it more trust and interest. So not only developers will earn money, but we can do it also.
We now have a unique opportunity to start mining this coin first and then, when it strengthens, to recalculate our crypto money.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Quantum X on September 07, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
Well, have you tried it on your own? It seems to be a good alternative to many other softs that don't provide any privacy they offer. Of course without an open source code we can't be 100% sure in it, but everything should be tried.
Exactly!
Trying it on your own is a good idea. Besides if everyone is talking about it and it has number of adds anywhere then we can confidently say that it's promising. I'm not saying here that it's totally risk free because there's nothing such that the cryptocurrency can offer.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Nboramir on September 08, 2020, 09:22:30 AM
I came across the project here for the first time. I was very interested. Has anyone used it before and understood exactly how it works? Do you think it would be a problem if it is not open source?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Gurjasmeet Singh on September 08, 2020, 06:37:24 PM
Oh,l am not agree with this comment. This platform  is not working the useless fill in the blank. I think so.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Nboramir on September 08, 2020, 09:23:48 PM
Now wants static ip for mining. I couldn't do it today, but I'm going to set up Static ip tomorrow and start.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: TERMINO on September 10, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Cool! Very interesting interview! I especially liked their ability to say enough, but not reveal their identity. By the way, it is very interesting to know who they are, because even the domain name of the site costs several thousand dollars. Where did they get so much money?
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Perhaps the money came from their own wallet or from earning in crypto. Nevertheless, they are wise group who manage to remain their identity anonymous. That makes sense and the big factor why the interest of crypto enthusiast earned. This is unique because even they are anonymous they are successful.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on September 11, 2020, 03:33:44 PM
By the way, the airdrop starts today so all of us can earn some Crypton for a small and easy activity. Even Latoken announced it. I believe it can attract new investors also. And that would be nice for us as the coin value will rise after that.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on September 14, 2020, 06:00:01 PM
YES, there is a rather high probability that an active growth will be noticeable in a month. I thought about it and decided to invest in it. It's not a lot of money, and I have good feelings.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Salman Hasan on September 14, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
Well, have you tried it on your own? It seems to be a good alternative to many other softs that don't provide any privacy they offer. Of course without an open source code we can't be 100% sure in it, but everything should be tried.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Fawpac2 on September 15, 2020, 08:18:47 AM
It is never possible. Bitcoin will never be a scam. The reason why the price of this bitcoin has come down is the hope of the Defi platform. The price of Bitcoin has come down a lot for this DiFi platform. Soon the price of Bitcoin will go to the previous level.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on September 21, 2020, 10:41:12 AM
Well, have you tried it on your own? It seems to be a good alternative to many other softs that don't provide any privacy they offer. Of course without an open source code we can't be 100% sure in it, but everything should be tried.
Exactly! I always wonder why do people continue using apps that shout about privacy and provide zero. I'm using Utopia for about 5-6 month and faced nothing bad, only positive things. Here's some more information http://utopia-privacy.com/ if you still don't know much aout the project.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Nboramir on September 21, 2020, 11:23:06 AM
I've been using it for a few weeks. There's nothing really bad looking for now. It just seems like they just need more promotional budget. The only thing i can't understand Why he wants static ip for mining=?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on September 21, 2020, 02:44:42 PM
Well, in general, now the developers have actively taken up the promotion of the coin, and I can say that they are quite successful at it. Who knows, maybe this is a future competitor to Bitcoin?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on September 21, 2020, 04:07:44 PM
Well, in general, now the developers have actively taken up the promotion of the coin, and I can say that they are quite successful at it. Who knows, maybe this is a future competitor to Bitcoin?
many have from the very first appeared to be the future competitor of bitcoin, but how much has been informed of that much has not been seen at all to date that can rival bitcoin. indeed, for the price maybe there is but in Market Cap there will be nothing that can compete until now. this indicates that bitcoin is still a very promising investment. because the value in bitcoin is really big.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Black ID on September 23, 2020, 02:21:10 PM
I was really scared myself. Even this campaign is unclear. I am afraid that whatever I give will be misused in the campaign. In fact, it is very possible that this will become a trap. so we better be careful with projects like this. do not carelessly provide data only for the lure of a large fee if the project is not clear.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Nboramir on September 23, 2020, 09:20:25 PM
I was really scared myself. Even this campaign is unclear. I am afraid that whatever I give will be misused in the campaign. In fact, it is very possible that this will become a trap. so we better be careful with projects like this. do not carelessly provide data only for the lure of a large fee if the project is not clear.


I could not understand why you are afraid of the project. It does not request any information and kyc absolutely does not. Just create and enter a username and password. It doesn't even require email. You can remain completely anonymous.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on September 28, 2020, 02:30:57 PM
I was really scared myself. Even this campaign is unclear. I am afraid that whatever I give will be misused in the campaign. In fact, it is very possible that this will become a trap. so we better be careful with projects like this. do not carelessly provide data only for the lure of a large fee if the project is not clear.

I'm sorry, but can you share where the data was asked to be shared? Like I've never seen anything like that using the soft for 6 months, I guess. It seems to me that no one would know who you are, untill you'll mention it in public chats for example. Or I've missed something?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on September 28, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
And by the way, I'm also interested in this. If no one is against it, of course.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on October 02, 2020, 04:42:21 PM
Seems like all these negative comments are posted by the competitors. As I've seen so many of them and no one answered my questions or provided some evidence. I've also checked the web for some privacy scandals and found nothing. Which also stands for my opinion.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: gunhell16 on October 05, 2020, 08:50:53 AM
I was really scared myself. Even this campaign is unclear. I am afraid that whatever I give will be misused in the campaign. In fact, it is very possible that this will become a trap. so we better be careful with projects like this. do not carelessly provide data only for the lure of a large fee if the project is not clear.

Every campaign can be an instrument to become a trap for everyone. But this depends of course on the owner of the campaign.
And at this point in time, we need to be wise in every campaign project that was gonna choose. Because most of the project nowadays they are using Bitcoin as a front to find a victim so let's be more careful.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on October 05, 2020, 04:12:01 PM
Seriously? Well, then I really don't really understand why. The situation seems rather ambiguous. Now it's hard for me to find a definite answer.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 05, 2020, 04:20:35 PM
Well, you say everyone is talking about it and every news outlet is publishing it, but ive not heard, seen or read about utopia anywhere even am always online in crypto, you should try adding some links to your post.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: syedrasool2011 on October 05, 2020, 06:47:51 PM
Bitcoin is future of world never scam dont worry bitcoin most is most populer then other crypto coin just wait next boom is coming bitcoin will use has paper money use.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on October 09, 2020, 03:42:46 PM
Well, you say everyone is talking about it and every news outlet is publishing it, but ive not heard, seen or read about utopia anywhere even am always online in crypto, you should try adding some links to your post.

Okay. Here's their fan site utopia.fans, and all the news and videos about it can be found by googling Utopia p2p. You'll see many trusted websites there. Moreover, they have all types of social media accounts like Twitter, Telegram channel, medium, etc.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Thymoty on October 10, 2020, 04:01:02 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.

Well, I don't think so. Indeed, cryptocurrency and blockchain were created to form a decentralized system where no one controls or interferes with the system. But there is no problem launching a closed-source blockchain platform. If you are concerned about data security, etc. We are on the Internet, where no data is safe, even platforms like Facebook and Google have been involved in several cases of data leaks. So let the platform develop first.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: gunhell16 on October 11, 2020, 10:52:02 AM
If you have a doubt about in any hereof the cryptocurrency why will you force yourself to join with it dude,
On this matter, the only thing you need to apply or use is common sense only. You don't need to be wise just in case
you have a doubt just as simple as that mate.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on October 11, 2020, 11:27:03 AM
If you have a doubt about in any hereof the cryptocurrency why will you force yourself to join with it dude,
On this matter, the only thing you need to apply or use is common sense only. You don't need to be wise just in case
you have a doubt just as simple as that mate.
obviously maybe because haven't studied crypto properly and seriously so that there is doubt and that's natural, it's better not to jump right in but it's better to study it first so that no doubt will happen. it is not easy to be able to overcome things like this and we have to understand.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: TERMINO on October 11, 2020, 12:47:55 PM
Well, you say everyone is talking about it and every news outlet is publishing it, but ive not heard, seen or read about utopia anywhere even am always online in crypto, you should try adding some links to your post.
Me too. Maybe the OP over exaggerated the content to make it more interesting and interactive. But the truth is majority of us never heard  utopia not unless we do search what it is all about.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on October 11, 2020, 06:08:39 PM
Well, you say everyone is talking about it and every news outlet is publishing it, but ive not heard, seen or read about utopia anywhere even am always online in crypto, you should try adding some links to your post.
Me too. Maybe the OP over exaggerated the content to make it more interesting and interactive. But the truth is majority of us never heard  utopia not unless we do search what it is all about.
maybe the project that the OP said is a new project that currently may need full support like investors for its development, but I think you have to be careful not to get caught up in the project scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on October 12, 2020, 12:01:57 PM
Well, at the moment, the idea of starting mining a new and promising coin, although it seems tempting to me, still causes me concern. Therefore, I will just watch the development of events here.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Crypto Guard on October 12, 2020, 12:22:04 PM
Indeed, whatever we do in crypto we have to be careful. Because now there are so many scam projects that are traps. Don't let us participate in it. because it is very dangerous. Moreover, projects with KYC, where we provide complete data.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on October 15, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Indeed, whatever we do in crypto we have to be careful. Because now there are so many scam projects that are traps. Don't let us participate in it. because it is very dangerous. Moreover, projects with KYC, where we provide complete data.

No one forces you to use something - it's the first point. This project exists for almost a year already and show me at least one complaint about scam or something - it's second thing. And the third one is that you don't have to provide any information except the nickname and password during the registration. So I think people should stop thinking it's a scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: xeroz on October 15, 2020, 11:50:21 PM
There is no next Bitcoin, Bitcoin is irreplaceable. No altcoins that potential to replace Bitcoin, IMO. Even ETH cannot replace Bitcoin so far. Bitcoin is special as no coin in the crypto space that has a big influence like Bitcoin has. We cannot see the power as Bitcoin has in other crypto coins, including the top altcoins.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on October 16, 2020, 04:26:08 AM
There is no next Bitcoin, Bitcoin is irreplaceable. No altcoins that potential to replace Bitcoin, IMO. Even ETH cannot replace Bitcoin so far. Bitcoin is special as no coin in the crypto space that has a big influence like Bitcoin has. We cannot see the power as Bitcoin has in other crypto coins, including the top altcoins.
well I really agree with what you say because bitcoin will remain bitcoin can never be another and in my opinion bitcoin can never be replaced by another coin, even though bitcoin can only be beaten in price as it has happened at this time bitcoin price can defeated by YFI.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on October 16, 2020, 01:46:22 PM
Most likely I agree with you. I found enough information about this project on the Internet, in addition, the developers even gave interviews in which they talked a little about the project and the goals of its creation. In general, it doesn't look like a scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: cynthiaaddison on October 16, 2020, 02:07:47 PM
I don't think bitcoin should be compared to any coin still. They are for different purposes
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on October 16, 2020, 02:08:21 PM
Well, at the moment, the idea of starting mining a new and promising coin, although it seems tempting to me, still causes me concern. Therefore, I will just watch the development of events here.
worries in everything we do, especially with regard to the funds needed, will certainly make people always be careful and are a natural thing that happens to everyone.
but if we don't start and try then we won't move forward and gain the valuable experience that is precisely what is needed.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Vx1 on October 16, 2020, 02:09:43 PM
The big risk when entering the world of Bitcoin is losing money.  Whether it's money lost due to scammers or losses when trading and investing. What we need to do to join a new project is that we have to do a review first, or we just keep choosing Bitcoin as our investment to minimize losses and scammers.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on October 16, 2020, 02:14:42 PM
I don't think bitcoin should be compared to any coin still. They are for different purposes
What do you mean by comparison with bitcoin with other coins, because it is only natural that everything will definitely be compared with bitcoin against other altcoins. Moreover, we know that all coins need to complement each other.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on October 23, 2020, 02:48:01 PM
The big risk when entering the world of Bitcoin is losing money.  Whether it's money lost due to scammers or losses when trading and investing. What we need to do to join a new project is that we have to do a review first, or we just keep choosing Bitcoin as our investment to minimize losses and scammers.

It seems that Utopia project has lots of reviews already, and I hadn't seen any real negative. Except of cases when people don't even try it and say it's not trustful due to the closed code. I love the fact that I've mined quite a lot already as developers just added poker rooms. And now I can also enjoy my time playing and winning even more coins.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on October 26, 2020, 03:30:34 PM
Wow! I used to enjoy playing poker with my friends. We even organized friendly tournaments for a can of beer. =) Thank you, I’ll find out more information.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 02, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
Wow! I used to enjoy playing poker with my friends. We even organized friendly tournaments for a can of beer. =) Thank you, I’ll find out more information.

Beer tornaments can be played at home with your friends :) And here it's better to be more serious as if you're good in poker, you can earn more crypto. That's cool.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Renampun on November 02, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Indeed, whatever we do in crypto we have to be careful. Because now there are so many scam projects that are traps. Don't let us participate in it. because it is very dangerous. Moreover, projects with KYC, where we provide complete data.
This is the reason why I don't like projects that require KYC...
personal data is private and it would be very bad if personal data was traded on the deep web. do not carelessly join a project, learn and investigate more before joining.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: EAA-ALLAH on November 03, 2020, 02:38:21 AM
Next bitcoin obviously scam and it has no definite whitepaper, roadmap, and website and marketing services and products value. There are many bitcoin derivatives turns into scams and worthless shit project. I don't believe such kind of projects which have no value and investors.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Gubre on November 03, 2020, 06:06:33 AM
Next bitcoin obviously scam and it has no definite whitepaper, roadmap, and website and marketing services and products value. There are many bitcoin derivatives turns into scams and worthless shit project. I don't believe such kind of projects which have no value and investors.
When a project shows no roadmap and everything you mentioned has only one meaning and that is a scam or the project does not exist anymore. Whenever a project always do a comparison with bitcoin that is most likely a scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 03, 2020, 11:19:41 AM
Really? I didn't think there were so many good poker players! How do you like the game? Found bugs?
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: StreakW on November 03, 2020, 07:00:40 PM
What the main point about your thread??
Just a little advice everything claim will be the next bitcoin is nonsense, nothing the next bitcoin
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 04, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
When a project shows no roadmap and everything you mentioned has only one meaning and that is a scam or the project does not exist anymore. Whenever a project always do a comparison with bitcoin that is most likely a scam.

Who are you, people?? If you didn't use something, it doesn't mean it's a scam. Show me at least one proof on the net, please. Really interested.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 04, 2020, 03:02:43 PM
For fun, I tried to find negative information about this application. There is nothing on YouTube or on any news sites.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 09, 2020, 01:05:58 PM
Really? I didn't think there were so many good poker players! How do you like the game? Found bugs?

Yes, there's one bug. Like it's not always possible to create a new room. It was discussed in one of the poker channels inside the Utopia and developers already know about this issue. I think it will be fixed in the next update.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Gurujebs on November 09, 2020, 05:30:33 PM
For fun, I tried to find negative information about this application. There is nothing on YouTube or on any news sites.
After almost a year, it seems like a dead end. The recent ones you come across is either they tried to replace ethereum or they mimic another project.
I recently came across a thread that was explaining why he think Tezos is the new ethereum. I just had to laugh it off and make my little contribution to avoid been troll.
Every project should be unique on their own and provide solutions to the existing problems. Not too look stupid trying to replace what is irreplaceable.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 10, 2020, 10:02:14 AM
Really? I didn't think there were so many good poker players! How do you like the game? Found bugs?

Yes, there's one bug. Like it's not always possible to create a new room. It was discussed in one of the poker channels inside the Utopia and developers already know about this issue. I think it will be fixed in the next update.
As far as I know, even poker is still in beta test, in order to collect all possible bugs. Good job! =)
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on November 10, 2020, 10:17:06 AM
For fun, I tried to find negative information about this application. There is nothing on YouTube or on any news sites.
of course what you are looking for can give an idea that it is very difficult to get that anything related to bitcoin is a scam. because who can say it is clear he does not understand about bitcoin, if he analyzes then things like that will not arise.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 12, 2020, 01:05:15 PM
of course what you are looking for can give an idea that it is very difficult to get that anything related to bitcoin is a scam. because who can say it is clear he does not understand about bitcoin, if he analyzes then things like that will not arise.

What do you bro understand, what we don't? I've earned with mining 400$ during a month and I didn't have to pay more for my electricity. I've simply ran the soft all the time and Crypton was mined. Already withdrawn the amount and planning to continue. As none of the other stuff I tried gave me the same income.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 13, 2020, 12:14:53 PM
For fun, I tried to find negative information about this application. There is nothing on YouTube or on any news sites.
After almost a year, it seems like a dead end. The recent ones you come across is either they tried to replace ethereum or they mimic another project.
I recently came across a thread that was explaining why he think Tezos is the new ethereum. I just had to laugh it off and make my little contribution to avoid been troll.
Every project should be unique on their own and provide solutions to the existing problems. Not too look stupid trying to replace what is irreplaceable.

Well, I wouldn't say that. Everything has its time - once. Secondly, I believe that this topic still has a lot to develop. Third, when it was possible to find a promising crypt without any difficulty did not make sense? In general, I saw that the ANN branch appeared, I think the developers want to show that they have no secrets.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Positive on November 13, 2020, 03:00:57 PM
For fun, I tried to find negative information about this application. There is nothing on YouTube or on any news sites.
After almost a year, it seems like a dead end. The recent ones you come across is either they tried to replace ethereum or they mimic another project.
I recently came across a thread that was explaining why he think Tezos is the new ethereum. I just had to laugh it off and make my little contribution to avoid been troll.
Every project should be unique on their own and provide solutions to the existing problems. Not too look stupid trying to replace what is irreplaceable.
Absolutely but some people seems not to understand that every crypto related project that offers the smart contracts/Dapps always stay in the shadow of Ethereum and even Justin Sun also failed despite his social media contest and 4.0 Tron.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Pheonyx on November 13, 2020, 03:13:26 PM
Anonymous project is risky but are we not aware that risk is just part of this kind of job? If they invest in it after all then that is the spirit of our world as virtual investors.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 21, 2020, 01:16:18 PM
Anonymous project is risky but are we not aware that risk is just part of this kind of job? If they invest in it after all then that is the spirit of our world as virtual investors.
I'm of the same point of view as crypto is always a risk, no matter which one. But anyway, it's so exciting to find something new and perspective. Here's some more information about Crypton for those who's afraid https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/get-full-anonymity-in-transactions-with-crypton-a-utopian-currency/ Moreover, an additional independent network core was added to Utopia, that will make the mining process much faster. I'm sure it will also improve all the other processes inside the soft.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: syedrasool2011 on November 22, 2020, 04:37:21 PM
Bitcoin trade is great unlike the stock market and other financial market, bitcoin has no centralized location since it operates 24hrs in different parts of the world.Bitcoin is so strong just buy and hold your Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Condorlaib on November 22, 2020, 06:17:09 PM
Bitcoin trade is great unlike the stock market and other financial market, bitcoin has no centralized location since it operates 24hrs in different parts of the world.Bitcoin is so strong just buy and hold your Bitcoin.
You're right. It is thanks to this that Nobody will be able to influence and control Bitcoin. In order to complete the process of decentralizing bitcoin, even the creator of Satoshi Nakamoto himself chose to remain anonymous and not show himself in any way at all. Even his wallets with a lot of bitcoin, which have never moved since the creation of bitcoin, remain intact, which speaks of deliberately chopping off all ends from Bitcoin and the creator.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 23, 2020, 12:06:15 PM
Anonymous project is risky but are we not aware that risk is just part of this kind of job? If they invest in it after all then that is the spirit of our world as virtual investors.
I'm of the same point of view as crypto is always a risk, no matter which one. But anyway, it's so exciting to find something new and perspective. Here's some more information about Crypton for those who's afraid https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/get-full-anonymity-in-transactions-with-crypton-a-utopian-currency/ Moreover, an additional independent network core was added to Utopia, that will make the mining process much faster. I'm sure it will also improve all the other processes inside the soft.

If I understand correctly, the new core as a whole has increased the speed and efficiency of the entire ecosystem. In this regard, a closed forum for software users was created in the local browser.  http: //utalk/index.php. Registration is paid, for a crypt, but I believe that it should be so, because it will avoid flooding.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Lenipiw on November 23, 2020, 12:14:07 PM
When a project can show their road map, that project is called a scam. If the project is remembered, the more the project is compared to Bitcoin, the more traders are attracted. Then he plans to make the project a reality scandal. This is how a lot of scams and frauds happen. Those who invest promise to give a lot of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: edmundo on November 23, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
Be mindful and careful of most projects that come with the claims of being the next bitcoin, they mostly turn out to be scams or failed projects. We have seen a lot of them come before and all failed miserably. For me, it is a red flag and an indication to be careful. It will take a lot for any project to replace bitcoin.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on November 23, 2020, 09:57:29 PM
Be mindful and careful of most projects that come with the claims of being the next bitcoin, they mostly turn out to be scams or failed projects. We have seen a lot of them come before and all failed miserably. For me, it is a red flag and an indication to be careful. It will take a lot for any project to replace bitcoin.

the principle is not to always believe what BM and the team tell about a project. because we have to meet several criteria so that we can believe in accepting the new project. sometimes we have sorted it well, some still end up being a fraud.
because they have indeed prepared well, there should be cooperation with the admin so that this can be reduced.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on November 29, 2020, 03:38:45 PM
the principle is not to always believe what BM and the team tell about a project. because we have to meet several criteria so that we can believe in accepting the new project. sometimes we have sorted it well, some still end up being a fraud.
because they have indeed prepared well, there should be cooperation with the admin so that this can be reduced.

I'm still wondering how much time should pass until people will start believeng in something. Good reviews, more than a year of clear and stable work, successful withdrawals.. And still all people here say scam, scam, without even trying or learning the app. Very strange for me. Everyone believe they'll earn a lot on Bitcoin and most of them don't even know how to do that.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on November 30, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Considering how hard it is to earn bitcoin now and how much effort and time you need to spend on it ... For some reason, they do not want to trust the new cryptocurrency, which absolutely does not require additional financial investments....idk :'(
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Cinno3 on November 30, 2020, 06:51:35 PM
The state of Bitcoin is improving day by day. So I think Bitcoin will be more popular in the next world. Bitcoin will spread far and wide around the world. So Bitcoin is still known as the best currency.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 02, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
The state of Bitcoin is improving day by day. So I think Bitcoin will be more popular in the next world. Bitcoin will spread far and wide around the world. So Bitcoin is still known as the best currency.
No one says it won't be like that. But in order to earn well on Bitcoin, you already need to have lots of investments there. As buying Bitcoin on 20k mark is insane. It never beated that point and most likely it will fall soon. And I speak about the coins that can be still invested in or mined easily.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: IyemRoker on December 03, 2020, 07:17:47 AM
Bitcoin can be said to be a scam because there are so many platforms that have a Pishing website.
Then those who say Bitcoin "Scam" are those who enter the circle of the Pishing website and they end up regretting having invested in Bitcoin.

This is my experience with my friendship,because he not enough to study Bitcoin and he forced to join on investment .
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Tanimariya on December 03, 2020, 08:19:44 AM
I think Bitcoin will move forward with more progress and trends. Because there will be plans in the future to use Bitcoin currency in every hand around the world. Bitcoin is likely to have good results in cryptocurrency in the future.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: lepbagong on December 03, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
Bitcoin can be said to be a scam because there are so many platforms that have a Pishing website.
Then those who say Bitcoin "Scam" are those who enter the circle of the Pishing website and they end up regretting having invested in Bitcoin.

This is my experience with my friendship,because he not enough to study Bitcoin and he forced to join on investment .

I hope that what you say is the experience that can continue to learn that it is self-defeating with the evidence that has been done, but sometimes people like them are easily influenced by people to seek instant profit not because it is from the results of a good analysis done or at least asking for information who understand better.

I hope your information can inspire many people because currently in a state of bitcoin is increasing, there are many scammers who take advantage of the opportunity to do bad things.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Cristiano on December 06, 2020, 08:57:01 AM
Bitcoin is gaining popularity day after day and it is hoped that Bitcoin will never scam.  Bitcoin occupies the number one position in the cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin is now trusted by everyone. If Bitcoin ever scams, I think the cryptocurrency market will change completely.  No one is expected to be associated with cryptocurrency anymore.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Sasa on December 06, 2020, 01:38:36 PM
I do not understand your topic well.  I have no idea what you mean.  However, I have read the replies of the senior brothers well.  Many of them have said a lot.  But I didn't understand what you meant.  If you could help us a little, I would benefit a lot from this valuable topic.  I hope you will help junior brothers like us in this matter.  We hope you enjoy the extension of service.  Thank you very much brother.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Hamida on December 06, 2020, 03:09:12 PM
What’s this crazy Utopia (https://u.is) campaign that is everywhere already? All tech and crypto websites publish numerous news about it, it’s discussed on many forums. But what’s wrong with you, people?? It’s a closed source product developed by no one knows who. Aren’t you people afraid that it’s a trap, and by promising you total anonymity, some govs, for example, will collect all your data? You’ll be watched by Big Brother, and you voluntarily go to his hands! Think it over. Once you get there, you’ll never come back.

Always be choice, You will choose bitcoin or altcoins. Because the coin which cannot be the next bitcoin or follow bitcoin, It will be scam. maybe...
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on December 06, 2020, 05:55:00 PM
Bitcoin is gaining popularity day after day and it is hoped that Bitcoin will never scam.  Bitcoin occupies the number one position in the cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin is now trusted by everyone. If Bitcoin ever scams, I think the cryptocurrency market will change completely.  No one is expected to be associated with cryptocurrency anymore.
You're absolutely right! However, the popularity of bitcoin has made the process of earning it quite difficult and lengthy. At the moment, it is very difficult to earn a hut from scratch some impressive amount. Therefore, many users prefer to look for other alternative coins.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Ak600 on December 07, 2020, 02:55:46 AM
Bitcoin is future no scam and never in future every where bitcoin will use

More of the time Bitcoin use to scam people who don't  know how to determine scammer. Bitcoin itself is not scam but use to get scam so the people first impression is bad to Bitcoin. Be careful not to support bitcoin scammer.
Yes brother you are right.  Bitcoin is not a scam, but a scam with other people.  So that they leave Bitcoin.  About the Bitcoin scandal and I didn't have this idea before so I got to know you now. Thanks bro
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Goblin on December 09, 2020, 01:48:47 PM
Bitcoin is never likely to be scammed.  The day Bitcoin is scammed, the cryptocurrency market will be turned upside down.  I think the whole cryptocurrency depends on Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is called the king of cryptocurrency.  How will cryptocurrency work if there is no cryptocurrency king.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Arendra on December 09, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Everything that is done in crypto should be carefully thought out. don't take the wrong step. This is also what many people are trying to do in response to this project. And I think this is a natural thing. If this project is really good, it won't take long to get people to join the project.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Tnoy30 on December 09, 2020, 04:14:40 PM
I think Bitcoin will be a scam when there are no Bitcoin users and transactions around the world. It is a fact. Bitcoin will never be destroyed. Because Bitcoin is used by a lot of people, which is good news for Bitcoin. The use of Bitcoin around the world has forced Bitcoin to gain popularity.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: jakasantosa on December 09, 2020, 04:37:23 PM
With a max supply of around 21 million BTC and a circulating supply of around 18.5 million and occupying Rank 1 in cryptocurrency. (info: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/) I don't think it will be a scam. because with this data, of course in the future Bitcoin will still exist and become great.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 10, 2020, 05:55:20 PM
Everything that is done in crypto should be carefully thought out. don't take the wrong step. This is also what many people are trying to do in response to this project. And I think this is a natural thing. If this project is really good, it won't take long to get people to join the project.

You're right! As I see, Utopia p2p is developing every day. More and more landing pages appear, they look after their social media accounts, update the soft every week. It's a good move to gain wider audience. The last update, in a row with many others,  was connected to a new UI theme, which made the software look more up-to-date.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Psycho on December 12, 2020, 08:04:44 AM
I don't say about this matter.beacuse I am a new boy in this forum.i hope in this forum many senior brothers are remove to your concussion.
Congratulations on being new to this forum.  You have said exactly one thing. Many senior brothers of this forum have gone against this topic.  Bitcoin will never scam.  Because Bitcoin is currently at the top.  Bitcoin currently occupies the number one position in cryptocurrency.  It can never scam.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on December 13, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Bitcoin is never likely to be scammed.  The day Bitcoin is scammed, the cryptocurrency market will be turned upside down.  I think the whole cryptocurrency depends on Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is called the king of cryptocurrency.  How will cryptocurrency work if there is no cryptocurrency king.
Well, in principle, this is possible if a new king appears on the cryptocurrency market. At the moment, there are many promising cyptocurrencies, and perhaps in the future, some event may occur that will change the state of affairs. And no one knows which coin is the place of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zardbeig on December 18, 2020, 12:41:13 PM
Congratulations on being new to this forum.  You have said exactly one thing. Many senior brothers of this forum have gone against this topic.  Bitcoin will never scam.  Because Bitcoin is currently at the top.  Bitcoin currently occupies the number one position in cryptocurrency.  It can never scam.
Where have you seen that we're discussing bitcoin as a scam? The topic is dedicated to Crypton coin http://cryptoncoin.cash as it's quite interesting whether it will become valuable and will let to earn even more on it without any investments.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Zulema on December 18, 2020, 12:57:53 PM
If a scam, no investor can live up to the present time but it will grow stronger in the coming time. I believe it will attract more investors in the future
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: gqinyot on December 18, 2020, 01:03:11 PM
If a scam, no investor can live up to the present time but it will grow stronger in the coming time. I believe it will attract more investors in the future
Congratulations to my committees. This year, the price of BTC has made investors feel excited when it is full from 4k now it has surpassed the 23k mark and will gradually increase even more as investors start to spend more heavily in the near future.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: nelson4lov on December 18, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
That's why I'm trying to move to the coins that still can be used anonymously. Moreover Bitcoin is dying again so it's time to find the right coin to be anonymous and rich :)
Dying?, I know bitcoin wasnt at its best last year, but it's never going to die, its always going to remain the king of all cryptocurrencies, I think the more people keep looking for the next bitcoin the more they get scammed or end up buying a shit coin, I think its high time you guys should just face the fact that you won't get any coin as bitcoin ever again, so invest in coins like they are regular coin, stop searching for the next bitcoin.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Sierra on December 18, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
If a scam, no investor can live up to the present time but it will grow stronger in the coming time. I believe it will attract more investors in the future
I believe bitcoin is a coin that investors are very excited about when the price of Bitcoin is at a very high level. It is profitable for investors and it will go even higher as more and more investors pay attention to the bit coin in the current period.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Marryan on December 20, 2020, 06:33:26 PM
If a scam, no investor can live up to the present time but it will grow stronger in the coming time. I believe it will attract more investors in the future
You are absolutely right! I would like to return you only in one moment - the development of the coin is unlikely to happen very quickly. The ecosystem itself is still developing, so the development of the coin will be slower than we would like.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Casual on December 21, 2020, 02:31:09 AM
In countries where Bitcoin is not legal, they actually believe in money. In countries where Bitcoin is legal again, they consider Bitcoin as an asset rather than money. So they invest a lot in Bitcoin. Gradually a time will come when it will be seen that everyone will have bitcoin transactions in their hands. The price of Bitcoin will then increase at a more massive rate.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Jaya60 on December 21, 2020, 03:50:14 AM
Bitcoin can never be a scam. The popularity of Bitcoin has spread all over the world. And if you look at the price, you will see that the bitcoin price is skyrocketing. A coin can only end when there are no more investors in it, it will not be traded. Maybe then it will go down a bit. But spamming Bitcoin is not that easy.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Muneeb22 on December 21, 2020, 04:50:34 AM
There is not any Bitcoin there becasue in the market we have just one bitcoin and there is not any other coin which make their level high like the BTC. So many coins will launched in the market and they make very big high but after some days they are dumb totally and the coin make scam with peoples.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: de_prof on December 21, 2020, 06:18:47 AM
Bitcoin can never be a scam. The popularity of Bitcoin has spread all over the world. And if you look at the price, you will see that the bitcoin price is skyrocketing. A coin can only end when there are no more investors in it, it will not be traded. Maybe then it will go down a bit. But spamming Bitcoin is not that easy.


Yes, I agree bitcoin is not scam. Because many People already invest in bitcoins Several opinion said bitcoin has owned by everyone. Bitcoin is the future currency and already has special place at many investors now.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Emircan on December 21, 2020, 09:32:29 AM
If a scam, no investor can live up to the present time but it will grow stronger in the coming time. I believe it will attract more investors in the future
You are absolutely right! I would like to return you only in one moment - the development of the coin is unlikely to happen very quickly. The ecosystem itself is still developing, so the development of the coin will be slower than we would like.
Yes, I think it's not a scam but a gamble that investors can bet anywhere. I love it and I believe a lot of investors are excited and will invest in the future.
Title: Re: Next Bitcoin or scam?
Post by: Emircan on December 21, 2020, 10:46:55 AM
Bitcoin can never be a scam. The popularity of Bitcoin has spread all over the world. And if you look at the price, you will see that the bitcoin price is skyrocketing. A coin can only end when there are no more investors in it, it will not be traded. Maybe then it will go down a bit. But spamming Bitcoin is not that easy.
If a scam is Bitcoin, it does not exist today. It also helps other ALTcoin thrive and has made investors rich and prosperous. I believe Bitcoin will thrive even more in the future.