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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Bobcrypto on May 17, 2020, 02:24:51 PM
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I have being thinking that the major reason while coin/token increase/decrease in price is basically because of the trading activities rathan investments. I think that traders are more responsible to the day to day prices movement than the investors. The daily trading activities, wether increase or decrease in prices rest on the traders.
The investors (eg institutional investors) buy coin/token just once and leave the coins for a long time to rise. I think these investors has not help in the daily increase or decrease though they hold the marketcap. What is are your opinions?
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There is a proper argument in your words. The value of any token or coin increases or decreases due to investment. The higher the amount of investment, the higher the token or coin. And if there is no investment, the value addition decreases instead. Again, the price increase depends on the businessmen. If Token's team members are good then investors increase.
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I have being thinking that the major reason while coin/token increase/decrease in price is basically because of the trading activities rathan investments. I think that traders are more responsible to the day to day prices movement than the investors. The daily trading activities, wether increase or decrease in prices rest on the traders.
The investors (eg institutional investors) buy coin/token just once and leave the coins for a long time to rise. I think these investors has not help in the daily increase or decrease though they hold the marketcap. What is are your opinions?
Base on the OP title "Can coins/token pump without trading activities?" My answer is NO? because the token/coin price was dictated by daily trading activities in which the coin/token demand was determined on the daily trading activities by total volume so without trading any trading activities, the price of the token on the tokensale will stay the same. and of course its not liquid because it was not traded yet.
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If there is no trading activity token price won't go up. There must be that push even if money enters the yoken market cap.
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How can prices go up if there is no demand in the market, I have never seen that. I think there is a need for trading activities to pump coins or tokens to get the price up.
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You are right because all coins prices increased and decreased depends upon trading activities and volumes. It may depens upon preservation and investment. So non traded coins day by day vanished.
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I agree that the price of crypto is influenced by how many people trade daily. Big investors only buy in large quantities and sell gradually or slowly depending on how much profit they have made.
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One of the factors that influence a coin to pump is its volume and circulting supply. This can be git from daily trading. How can we trust a coin that has no volume? Personally I won't and it will be not able to pump.
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The price of the token may increase without trading, but trading is the only way for the token to reach its fair price.
Reasons for 1 token's price increase:
- The project has more strategic partners;
- Token satisfies an additional number of laws;
- The community of the token is expanded through new outreach activities;
- Positive media coverage about the project;
- The project has achieved some achievements: ATM, transaction speed ...;
- Celebrities mention tokens & projects ...
However, if there is absolutely no trading activity, the person who needs to own the token will not be able to buy the token, the person who wants to make profit cannot sell the token, i.e. the community cannot know the value of the token :)
Thus Trading is the way for tokens to step up to their new prices.
If Trading is the cause for the price increase: it is only a temporary fluctuation.
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I think it is strange if a pump without trading activities, how can?
If you see there is a token like that on crypto market, it is better to not buy it. It will be very risky, it seems the developers who pump the prices. I doubt that the coins can be dead in the near future. There were already many examples, so just avoid it!!
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The price of the token may increase without trading, but trading is the only way for the token to reach its fair price.
Reasons for 1 token's price increase:
- The project has more strategic partners;
- Token satisfies an additional number of laws;
- The community of the token is expanded through new outreach activities;
- Positive media coverage about the project;
- The project has achieved some achievements: ATM, transaction speed ...;
- Celebrities mention tokens & projects ...
However, if there is absolutely no trading activity, the person who needs to own the token will not be able to buy the token, the person who wants to make profit cannot sell the token, i.e. the community cannot know the value of the token :)
Thus Trading is the way for tokens to step up to their new prices.
If Trading is the cause for the price increase: it is only a temporary fluctuation.
I doubt your conclusion, I don't think the prices increase is only a temporary fluctuation becaue fluctuations has been a constant thing and it through fluctuation we know that prices has move from one prices regime to another, that is, increase or decrease. Demand and supply rules are the basic causes of fluctuation and I think it is a part of any market conditions.
In a nutshell, trading activities has a greater influence than investment in my opinion.
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Its possible. A coin or token can increase its value based on the value of bitcoin even though such token does not have any trading activity if the bitcoin pumps, im pretty sure a status quo token will increase its dollar value.
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Maybe minimg of staking can do it... Because emission of coins become higher
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This is not possible without any trade happen. you may not experience difference trade volume from different exchanges. there might be pump activity of a token in an exchange while there is no activity of the same token in another exchange. it is important to note that it is not advisable to get involve in pump and dump activites because it is dangerous.
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On a frank basis, trading activities comprises of buying and selling actions,from different users around the globe using the exchange.
Likewise, a token cannot pump without trading activities, if nobody is selling, or buying the tokens; then how does it pump ?
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The price of the token may increase without trading, but trading is the only way for the token to reach its fair price.
Reasons for 1 token's price increase:
- The project has more strategic partners;
- Token satisfies an additional number of laws;
- The community of the token is expanded through new outreach activities;
- Positive media coverage about the project;
- The project has achieved some achievements: ATM, transaction speed ...;
- Celebrities mention tokens & projects ...
However, if there is absolutely no trading activity, the person who needs to own the token will not be able to buy the token, the person who wants to make profit cannot sell the token, i.e. the community cannot know the value of the token :)
Thus Trading is the way for tokens to step up to their new prices.
If Trading is the cause for the price increase: it is only a temporary fluctuation.
I doubt your conclusion, I don't think the prices increase is only a temporary fluctuation becaue fluctuations has been a constant thing and it through fluctuation we know that prices has move from one prices regime to another, that is, increase or decrease. Demand and supply rules are the basic causes of fluctuation and I think it is a part of any market conditions.
In a nutshell, trading activities has a greater influence than investment in my opinion.
Maybe I should take an example so you can better understand my opinion. Consider the price of BTC.
If BTC price increases due to the following reasons:
- 1 country, such as China or the United States, accepts the legality of BTC in the payment system;
- There are thousands more BTC ATMs worldwide;
- Halving :)
- Elon Musk mentioned BTC and wants to buy about 10000 BTC;
...
The price of BTC will increase steadily over a long period of time.
Now that the demand for BTC is increasing, people see BTC as a means of payment or hoarding assets => the price of BTC increases through trading.
In another scenario, if trading is the only cause of BTC prices increasing, for example, whales bought 1 million BTC, causing the price of BTC to increase, stimulating purchases from users, the price of BTC will spike. But almost right after this whale will discharge BTC, at the same time the buyers will sell BTC to earn short profit => BTC price back to the old level or lower than the old level. The price of BTC fluctuates temporarily because buyers & sellers only see it as a tool for surfing to make a profit.
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How can ut pump if there is no activity? Of there is nonacticity on the coin, O woll be sure that the coin is heading to dead
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Absolutely not. It needs daily trading activities to gey a higher volume every day. If there no trading activities, it means the coins/tokens have no interest from investors anymore. Then, those coins have a big chance to be dead coins/tokens soon. So, better to avoid buying the coins/tokens with no trading activities.
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Avoid buy coins with fewer or no trading activities. It is very unusual that there is a pump without trading activities. I think it is very suspicious. If it is good coins or tokens, they should have high volume and trading activities. It shows that they have many investors or holders.
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Its possible. A coin or token can increase its value based on the value of bitcoin even though such token does not have any trading activity if the bitcoin pumps, im pretty sure a status quo token will increase its dollar value.
No, it not possible because coin trading activities will only increase prices if there is a high volume, that is liquidity. A highly liquid coin/token on an exchange will enhance the trading activities.
If there is low volume of a coin/token on an exchange, there will definitely be limited trading activities on that exchange or exchanges. The value of BTC is common factor that everyone know that drives the entire market but despite the BTC value, a coin that has been not traded can not pump and will increase/decrease, at least to reasonable value.
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Avoid buy coins with fewer or no trading activities. It is very unusual that there is a pump without trading activities. I think it is very suspicious.
I avoid it and never buy the coins with low transactions on the exchanges. This should be avoided because it can be dead coins, then finally we got losses. We must be smart and careful in buying coins for investment.
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I have being thinking that the major reason while coin/token increase/decrease in price is basically because of the trading activities rathan investments. I think that traders are more responsible to the day to day prices movement than the investors. The daily trading activities, wether increase or decrease in prices rest on the traders. The investors (eg institutional investors) buy coin/token just once and leave the coins for a long time to rise. I think these investors has not help in the daily increase or decrease though they hold the marketcap. What is are your opinions?
Generally speaking, I am also more inclined to believe that traders are playing the major part in the up and down of a certain digital asset. Now, their mindset or predicting capacity can be affected by many factors and in that case any news of investment with the asset can be prodding them to be more active and be more positive on a coin or token.
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I have being thinking that the major reason while coin/token increase/decrease in price is basically because of the trading activities rathan investments. I think that traders are more responsible to the day to day prices movement than the investors. The daily trading activities, wether increase or decrease in prices rest on the traders. The investors (eg institutional investors) buy coin/token just once and leave the coins for a long time to rise. I think these investors has not help in the daily increase or decrease though they hold the marketcap. What is are your opinions?
Generally speaking, I am also more inclined to believe that traders are playing the major part in the up and down of a certain digital asset. Now, their mindset or predicting capacity can be affected by many factors and in that case any news of investment with the asset can be prodding them to be more active and be more positive on a coin or token.
Yes, traders are actually playing the major rolls in prices of coin/token up and down movement on the daily basis, and without this trading ativities there may be less increase or decrease of coin/token price at various intervals.
More trading activities will result to more volume, and that also suggest high liquid coins. Liquidity bring about high marketcap which is the basis of coinmarketcap ranking we are withnessing today. Thanks
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The rise and fall of the price of Coins due to the presence of buyers and sellers who buy and sell a Crypto coin. The higher the demand, the higher the price of Coins! So what if there is no trading activity then the price of the token Can change ?! I don't think this can, and trading activities are needed to pump up the price of coins
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There are tow sides of price determination. One is supply side and another is demand side. Supply is related to investment and demand is related to trade. If investment on token or coins increases, supply of it will increase. When supply increases, price automatically decreases due to sell the additional supply.
On the other hand, when traders buy more coins, demand for coins increases and price also automatically increases. In this case price is determined by the negotiation of buyer and seller.
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Without trading activities but the place order is high, I can not tell that this is pure pump of the coin. The coin should have trading activities so that we can tell that the coin is pumping.
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For the prices of coins to increase there must be constant trading activities on exchanges. People need to buy into any project to increase the price. Whether we are investing or we are trading, we are all contributing to the increase in prices of coins. Everyone is working together.
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I have being thinking that the major reason while coin/token increase/decrease in price is basically because of the trading activities rathan investments. I think that traders are more responsible to the day to day prices movement than the investors. The daily trading activities, wether increase or decrease in prices rest on the traders.
The investors (eg institutional investors) buy coin/token just once and leave the coins for a long time to rise. I think these investors has not help in the daily increase or decrease though they hold the marketcap. What is are your opinions?
Its normal think that without trading tokens price would not be up and down. Actually investors also indirectly create affect on market such as when they also come market for sell their tokens its create impact on market. Last i can say HY token its ICO price was 2$. Before investors come to market its price was 4-8$ and after investors come price down to 0.3$ and still this price going up and down to 0.8$ to 0.3$.
So i think everyone needed to market and finally team has to be strong to carry their tokens best price on market.
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For cryptocurrency, both traders and investors are important. It will lose its value if there are no trading operations with its participation. For cryptocurrency to grow in price, it is necessary that demand for it be greater than offers for its sale. Therefore, investors directly stimulate an increase in the price of cryptocurrency, however, in any case, after a while they become its sellers. A cryptocurrency transaction trader makes more often, however, it can also be considered alternately as an investor and as a seller. Short traders contribute more to the stability of the cryptocurrency price, because they sell at an increase in its price and buy when it drops. Thus, they help to reduce its volatility.
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In the cryptocurrency market, all its participants are important. But cryptocurrency was created for constant movement. Unlike gold or paper money, it is not physically visible, therefore it must constantly remind of itself with its movement, that is, the number of operations with it. Without transactions, its value disappears.
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I think, the rise and fall of token or currency prices depends on the investors. However, when the CEO of token makes the token available in the market. Now the CEO is not harmed when its price goes down. Because he makes the rest available by leaving part of his profit. But then the rise or fall of token prices depends entirely on the investor and the hunter. So if there are no investors in any project, that project ends automatically. I have seen many tokens that have no investors. But they are not excluded from the market cap now. I don't think the CEO of those projects wants to develop tokens anymore. So there is no investor in those tokens or coins.