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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: masterrex on September 17, 2020, 06:34:05 AM
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Bounty Hunters nowadays are already experiencing more abuses compared to the previous years these abuses are ranging from adding extra weeks with the same budget pool, waiting a long period before being paid ranging from 6 months to -1 year but after that timeline, the team won't pay anymore this is a sad reality that Bounty hunters need to endure, bounty term like this which is usually read in the Bounty Thread " The bounty manager and the project team reserve the right to make changes to the conditions at any time" this kind of condition infinitely give them the right to abuse the bounty participants. I believe this is happening because Bounty Hunters are not united. what are your thoughts about it just give your ideas or solution on how to prevent this kind of abuses.
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Whats the issue about not being united? Some campaigns usually dont have care on their participants. So I guess we should think twice which one should we participate. Cause most of the projects are always focus on earning on their token sale and marketing. Conditions on hunters and payment sometime changed and we cant actually benefit from it since its their rule but some managers are good like bubblealex.
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Bounty Hunters nowadays are already experiencing more abuses compared to the previous years these abuses are ranging from adding extra weeks with the same budget pool, waiting a long period before being paid ranging from 6 months to -1 year but after that timeline, the team won't pay anymore this is a sad reality that Bounty hunters need to endure, bounty term like this which is usually read in the Bounty Thread " The bounty manager and the project team reserve the right to make changes to the conditions at any time" this kind of condition infinitely give them the right to abuse the bounty participants. I believe this is happening because Bounty Hunters are not united. what are your thoughts about it just give your ideas or solution on how to prevent this kind of abuses.
I agree that the most important thing must always be a priority and as we all know that bounty hunters are always in things that don't wear and become like they don't care at all because there is no help from those who have the authority to be able to provide space to be able to solve people who often do action to the bounty hunter.
I actually don't agree with the telegram to solve every problem what happens because obviously it won't have any impact, let everything be resolved in the forum they created so that if there is a violation there can be action to close the cheating account, and don't give the new account opportunity just become BM because most of them can be misused. There should be a minimum account that should be used so that there is a deterrent effect if you make a mistake.
there are many ways that can be done but I do agree that there must be cooperation from all because this is for the common interest as well. do not always have to be harmed without an acceptable explanation.
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This is the risk that bounty hunters have to face, we can't do anything. the best solution is to always think before joining. if you're not sure it's best to leave.
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Yes, I have felt the same. There have been way too many excuses and hurdles to delay, not pay or reduce the earned reward tokens. Some campaigns use swaps to reduce claims, some apply kyc and some just keep delaying due to technicalities, they say.
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"The bounty manager and the project team reserve the right to make changes to the conditions at any time."
I think this is the very excuses why they change the protocol so easy and then pass the blame to hunters and says; at the beginning we told you already that at any time change is always possible. Sad reality and so injustice statement. Some are disappointed by not telling the KYC for hunters at the beginning then implement at the end. I hope there are managers who understand the heart and hardships of hunters.
Some of us here are from poor family or let may say country. They are trying to earn from the right thing not stealing or killing someone just to feed the stomach. Unfortunately, the hope has gone and become nothing.
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why is this space not offering better bounty. why is the platform not getting more bounty campaigns just like other projects. the admins should work towards this by promoting this platform to developers and marketers . we need more bounty campaigns here please. it is important.
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I think not only now, but since the start of the Bounty campaign, hunters have had to be ready to face the risk: maybe the project will fail, maybe the team won't pay tokens or pay less than expected, maybe the token price will be much lower than the price in token-sale... Besides, to ensure the effectiveness of the campaign and the interests of the investors, the bounty manager & project team are always looking for ways to own the right to dispose of or prolong/delay the payment of tokens for hunters...
It feels like the hunters are a low class in the crypto world :(
The only way that hunters can do this is to carefully research and evaluate the project together before deciding to participate.
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Bounty hunters are being abused for so many years now since it was started from 2017 even up to now.
If I'm gonna compare it into that year even until now there is still the project that is opportunist and abuser.
But still, there are few bounty campaigns remain legit and giving rewards correctly.
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Bounty hunters are being abused for so many years now since it was started from 2017 even up to now.
If I'm gonna compare it into that year even until now there is still the project that is opportunist and abuser.
But still, there are few bounty campaigns remain legit and giving rewards correctly.
In fact, in 2017, when I started participating in bounty hunters, I rarely experienced delays, let alone not being paid, all made payments according to what was determined in the terms and rarely did anyone dare to deviate because at that time everything was done in the forum so that if there were irregularities it could be discovered and the account may be subject to sanctions. it is especially clear that it is rare for a new account to be BM all accounts with at least SM being the smallest.
but when entering 2018 many new accounts started to become BM and it is clear from the objectives that it can be concluded that if there is something wrong they will not be affected or safe because of the new account.
continues to grow so that there are many ways to reduce so that bounty hunters and investors do not suffer losses. Changing the ICO system to IEO but that is just a good start but backwards, and now it's known as Defi, for me whatever system is used but the intentions behind it are not good it will be the same.
It is necessary to cooperate with all parties to return the bounty hunter to its heyday in a way that at least BM must be a certain account and do not use telegrams to interact because if there are irregularities it cannot be controlled properly, it is better to inter
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Whats the issue about not being united? Some campaigns usually dont have care on their participants. So I guess we should think twice which one should we participate. Cause most of the projects are always focus on earning on their token sale and marketing. Conditions on hunters and payment sometime changed and we cant actually benefit from it since its their rule but some managers are good like bubblealex.
If you notice mate, In some bounty campaign, the perfect example was DigitalBits the bounty hunters (participants) are not united instead they are busy accusing blaming and ranting with each other which is not good. Not only DigitalBits but some other bounty campaigns too, it has become normal nowadays. I believe that bounty hunters must "UNITED" and not divided because if we are divided we are weak! if we are "UNITED" we are strong that was my point.
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This was the case before. Almost always, ICO teams in the conditions of joining bounty campaigns wrote that they can change the conditions of bounty campaigns at any time. Of course, this is contrary to the generally recognized norms of civil law on the conclusion of transactions. However, this activity is still not regulated in any way. To put things in order in it, you need to wait until the states begin to regulate ICO activities.
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it getting worst. most bounties doesn't pay at the end of the work. some will disappear at the end telling your the project is still developing. i wish not call names but the current bounties are not helping matters. the disappointment is getting worst. it looks like most projects have underlining plans on what to do with participants details.
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it getting worst. most bounties doesn't pay at the end of the work. some will disappear at the end telling your the project is still developing. i wish not call names but the current bounties are not helping matters. the disappointment is getting worst. it looks like most projects have underlining plans on what to do with participants details.
Yes. Now it's very hard to trust a project that actually pays, even a project that looks good at the start can end up being a scam. we can't predict what will happen next after we promote it
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How many times there have been all sorts of conversations about misunderstandings with bounty. You can express your displeasure about this many times, but we can't really change anything. As the saying goes, whoever pays calls the tune. Therefore, we can accept these conditions, or refuse to participate in the Bounty campaign.
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You can express your displeasure about this many times, but we can't really change anything.
Maybe we could not change the reality but we can lessen the heavy heart of our fellows. Let them speak out there heart thoughts and let them change there crypto life tempo.
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Be carefull on KYC mandatory Bounty projects. Take a look at clipX, so many participants do the kyc but on the last minute the clipX team announce that the project failed. And all they say is that they alreasy erase the data that they collected.
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This was unfortunately always and will always be, because all these companies that conduct bounties understand that we bounty haunters can not do anything to them and they think that we don't care if we will get tokens from bounty companies in which we participate or not, but of course we can ruin the reputation of any company if we all will start to act together, but in this nobody is interested in.
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it is their project so they dictate the rule. we are grabbing opportunity of free money so we follow what is their rule. bounty managers don't force anyone to join them so let us just do our research on the project before joining them. I don't think complaining would give much impact to them..
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Be carefull on KYC mandatory Bounty projects. Take a look at clipX, so many participants do the kyc but on the last minute the clipX team announce that the project failed. And all they say is that they alreasy erase the data that they collected.
Yes. I already suspected that this project failed because there was no progress about it on social media. when they changed the rules for doing KYC for airdrops and bounties I immediately left it.
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it is their project so they dictate the rule. we are grabbing opportunity of free money so we follow what is their rule. bounty managers don't force anyone to join them so let us just do our research on the project before joining them. I don't think complaining would give much impact to them..
With the provisions of the campaign, the Bounty manager and team have the right to decide on all issues related to the bounty campaign: the time to distribute tokens, the value of each stake, the number of tokens divided by each pool... This should also be limited, if the end result does not meet the hunters' expectations for that campaign, I think hunters have the right to complain and stay away from that Bounty manager in subsequent campaigns.
To me, crypto is a world of freedom, where everyone has the right to speak out. Personally, I don't like KYC during bounty campaign :)
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I think that hunters has no right to take any action, however it now depends on individuals to choose whatever quit any of these campaigns when things are done the right ways.
As for me, l have learnt to take things the way they come and I believe that the good bounty projects will always come which will not treat hunters negatively.
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though what i see, is that most campaigns knows that bounty hunter don't have a choice they will participate, so that give them privilege and a means of falling back whenever things goes wrong, so the clause are putting to protect them selfs
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There are many projects and it is very difficult to choose the project that is the best and proven to pay.
The prize manager has an important role to play in every project, as they must have a team that will check every detail of the information, team members, and authenticity of the project whitepaper. Bounty participants are free to choose and accept each bounty rule, otherwise I will leave the bounty if I think the project team always changes the rules from the rules they have made
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There are many projects and it is very difficult to choose the project that is the best and proven to pay.
The prize manager has an important role to play in every project, as they must have a team that will check every detail of the information, team members, and authenticity of the project whitepaper. Bounty participants are free to choose and accept each bounty rule, otherwise I will leave the bounty if I think the project team always changes the rules from the rules they have made
What is done now is that BM is only thinking about how quantity takes precedence over the quality of the project.
BM should pay attention to who is behind a project that is given to him and ensure that that person does not always have problems in every project made.
It is natural for BM not to accept projects that are not qualified because reputation is also very necessary.
Every project issue should be interacted with in the project forum, not telegraphed, because many projects are handled, eventually priority will be prioritized. also at the same time to provide a deterrent effect if the BM is not correct the account may not be considered anymore.
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More and more projects turn out to be fake. One of the reasons is the result of articles of dubious quality, and other irrelevant content on the topic of ICOs is produced by people who are unable to convey any authentic excitement to the project’s target audience. The result is that most serious projects have chosen to abandon bounty campaigns for other promotional tools.
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bounty hunter always get into trouble when the prizes would be distributed in the extended and in retreat addressing something abnormal is happening right now and so bad for the bounty hunter they always considered one eye and bounty always in one case a dump of course if the bounty hunter together in a plan that both the likelihood of this kind of thing does not happen.
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Remuneration companies have now mostly changed in a bad way, as payments have become much lower and the number of projects that cheat has become much larger
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It has been like this since 2018, many bounties didn't meet their promises and then gone like the wind. Well, actually there are still several bounty campaigns that are very on time in making their turn. But some others also sometimes make us bad too much because they will do what you said. So, do not surprise because of this. There will be many more projects again that deceive us to wait for a very long time period. SO, just try to join in the trusted projects
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it is their project so they dictate the rule. we are grabbing opportunity of free money so we follow what is their rule. bounty managers don't force anyone to join them so let us just do our research on the project before joining them. I don't think complaining would give much impact to them..
I think you didnt understand completely about what abuses mean, first of all its not a free money it is a form of payment a cheap payment for advertising their project in social media's and other sites theres nothing free in this world even airdropping some tokens before you getting paid you need to fulfill some task, figthing for your right againts abuses is not complaining if you believe that cryptocurrency is all about Freedom then its should be observe equally maybe your a bounty hunter, project developer,investors etc because we are one big crypto community.
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The response is very interesting and most of the hunters/promoters are very reasonable on their views and it makes sense to me that the majority of hunters are not happy with this kind of "arrangement and promises" and I don't think it is reasonable to call the bounty promotion a "FREE MONEY" which is offensive in my opinion, But we cannot discredit some bounty promotions and Managers that quite good and honest Kudos to the "Bounty Detective management, Bubbalex, and some other bounty managers.