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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: Thanos on May 12, 2018, 01:20:48 AM
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This is just a suggestion, that there should be some kind of effect on your account when you give Karma, maybe you loss a single point for every 3 or 5 karma +/- you give.
And also there should be reason for giving karma, not a comprehensive reason but some kind of default box you check that suit the reason you are giving karma.
Just a suggestion though.
Whats your stake on this?
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This is just a suggestion, that there should be some kind of effect on your account when you give Karma, maybe you loss a single point for every 3 or 5 karma +/- you give.
I disagree with this suggestion. As of now, I am a Sr.Member and have 5 Karma points. But as suggested by you, If I'm giving away +/- Karma and that affects my Karma. I wouldn't bother to Thank/Punish others because I don't want my Karma to become 4 or even lesser.
And also there should be reason for giving karma, not a comprehensive reason but some kind of default box you check that suit the reason you are giving karma.
This feature could be added
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well, I understand what you are aiming at with the first suggestion, but as Airdrophunter8 said, it would make no sense loosing karma while giving it to others, this would limit the "willingness" to give karma... maybe we could achieve something by having a fixed number of karma points to give away (not having any effect on yourself), and this number could be renewed periodicaly, or after a certain number of posts is achieved, for example..
2nd - like it and agree, this could be a nice feature :)
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well, I understand what you are aiming at with the first suggestion, but as Airdrophunter8 said, it would make no sense loosing karma.
But as suggested by you, If I'm giving away +/- Karma and that affects my Karma.
What I meant was points not karma, if I should loose karma for giving karma I rather not give it out at all.
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I think this would be not easy to understand and complicated to implement your suggestion. This system what we have is new and we have to test it a little bit longer before changing something. There is still not many members at AltcoinsTalks and only few with higher rank and karma feature. Give some time to this karma system.
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well, I understand what you are aiming at with the first suggestion, but as Airdrophunter8 said, it would make no sense loosing karma.
But as suggested by you, If I'm giving away +/- Karma and that affects my Karma.
What I meant was points not karma, if I should loose karma for giving karma I rather not give it out at all.
So you want to take away my earnings now, for encouraging others by giving + karma and punishing spammers by - Karma? ??? Was that your suggestion? Either way, I am not encouraging your idea.
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I think this would be not easy to understand and complicated to implement your suggestion. This system what we have is new and we have to test it a little bit longer before changing something. There is still not many members at AltcoinsTalks and only few with higher rank and karma feature. Give some time to this karma system.
Yes definitely you are right it needs time and even before it will be implemented their would be a case of abuse.
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well, I understand what you are aiming at with the first suggestion, but as Airdrophunter8 said, it would make no sense loosing karma.
But as suggested by you, If I'm giving away +/- Karma and that affects my Karma.
What I meant was points not karma, if I should loose karma for giving karma I rather not give it out at all.
So you want to take away my earnings now, for encouraging others by giving + karma and punishing spammers by - Karma? ??? Was that your suggestion? Either way, I am not encouraging your idea.
Hahaha dude chill, you lose one point out of every 5 to 10 karma you give. 😎😎😎
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I quite like this suggestion, points used for each karma (+/-) given out. It would reduce users engaged in long-term karma abuse, which I feel is beginning to be an issue here (particularly related to giving out negative karma). FYI there is a 10 hour limit to dishing out karma at least, so short-term abuse is not possible anymore.
However I agree it would likely be complicated to implement, and the admin/mods are busy enough as it is trying to improve things here.
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(particularly related to giving out negative karma).
This is what I am afraid of someone might just give negative karma for no reason, just because they don't agree with your post.
FYI there is a 10 hour limit to dishing out karma at least, so short-term abuse is not possible anymore.
This is good too, 10 hours gap before giving out another karma.
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So you want to take away my earnings now, for encouraging others by giving + karma and punishing spammers by - Karma? ??? Was that your suggestion? Either way, I am not encouraging your idea.
Hahaha dude chill, you lose one point out of every 5 to 10 karma you give. 😎😎😎
Oh did my response seem that I'm mad about your suggestion.? I didn't mean to be. I just shared my thought. BTW removing 1 point for every karma given doesn't make a lot of difference. Abusers will always find a way around. :) He'll make a post which give 'n' points and he'll start giving 'n' karma. :P
The 10 hr gap for giving karma is a good idea.
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this karma abuse will become a main thing when forum has a lot more people... solution has to be well tested and implemented by then...
Look at BTT forum, high ranks just found a way to protect their earnings and centralize things even more with the merit system...
the reason for giving good/bad karma should be identified as suggested or someway similar
the karma should be "controlled", this 10 hour period seems a good idea, but not enough... why not generate karma to giveaway while being active on the forum? with some kind of maximum implemented?
lets discuss this matter and find a good way ;)
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... FYI there is a 10 hour limit to dishing out karma at least, so short-term abuse is not possible anymore...
I didn't knew about 10 hours limit when issuing karma. i like to learn something new and i have to say that this is good adjustment to avoid short term karma abuse. If we will take points from people when they issue karma this will drastically slow down or even stop completely karma rewarding or punishing. Nobody wants lose points especially to give +1 or even -1 because points are needed for tokens and 90% of people joined this forum because of this incentive.
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the reason for giving good/bad karma should be identified as suggested or someway similar.
This is exactly my point I would love to know the reason for my +/- karma received. When I get positive karma, knowing the reason I work towards getting more in a good way, same as when I get negative karma, I refrain from such writeups.
the karma should be "controlled", this 10 hour period seems a good idea, but not enough... why not generate karma to giveaway while being active on the forum? with some kind of maximum implemented?
I agreed to this before but now that I have the power to give karma I don't quite agree to it..
In as much as this will help a great deal, I don't quite buy it. Waiting 10 hours later to give another karma, will equally make me not give it out.
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... FYI there is a 10 hour limit to dishing out karma at least, so short-term abuse is not possible anymore...
I didn't knew about 10 hours limit when issuing karma. i like to learn something new and i have to say that this is good adjustment to avoid short term karma abuse. If we will take points from people when they issue karma this will drastically slow down or even stop completely karma rewarding or punishing. Nobody wants lose points especially to give +1 or even -1 because points are needed for tokens and 90% of people joined this forum because of this incentive.
That is why it will take a longer time before point for karma be implemented.
As you said most people join the forum because of incentives the forum gives.
My main concern is that something should be done about knowing why karma was awarded.
I gave someone a negative karma for posting a scammy airdrop that requested for eth address and key before receiving their shite token.
Commenting on the topic with vivid explanation and screenshot evidence of the scam airdrop. This topic may have been deleted by mod because I can't find it anymore.
But then someone can give the user account a + karma canceling the - karma the user got in the first place. Thereby giving the user tendency to scam in the future.
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the karma should be "controlled", this 10 hour period seems a good idea, but not enough... why not generate karma to giveaway while being active on the forum? with some kind of maximum implemented?
I agreed to this before but now that I have the power to give karma I don't quite agree to it..
In as much as this will help a great deal, I don't quite buy it. Waiting 10 hours later to give another karma, will equally make me not give it out.
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I understand what you mean... and definitely the point of view should change after you are able to give it, as in everything, only by doing things we become fully aware of the pros and cons...
i understand your point of view...maybe the 10hour "brake" can work...
concerning organized abuse... i think none of these suggestions can fully work... but to address that, the good quality users that will be created by the actual karma rules, will sufice to avoid growing the organized abuse...
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... FYI there is a 10 hour limit to dishing out karma at least, so short-term abuse is not possible anymore...
I didn't knew about 10 hours limit when issuing karma. i like to learn something new and i have to say that this is good adjustment to avoid short term karma abuse. If we will take points from people when they issue karma this will drastically slow down or even stop completely karma rewarding or punishing. Nobody wants lose points especially to give +1 or even -1 because points are needed for tokens and 90% of people joined this forum because of this incentive.
That is why it will take a longer time before point for karma be implemented.
As you said most people join the forum because of incentives the forum gives.
My main concern is that something should be done about knowing why karma was awarded.
I gave someone a negative karma for posting a scammy airdrop that requested for eth address and key before receiving their shite token.
Commenting on the topic with vivid explanation and screenshot evidence of the scam airdrop. This topic may have been deleted by mod because I can't find it anymore.
But then someone can give the user account a + karma canceling the - karma the user got in the first place. Thereby giving the user tendency to scam in the future.
you are absolutely right on this point...
it is imperative to have a karma history attached to the profile of each user (don't know if this is easy or not)
this attached to the simple justification for karma will create a good tool to evaluate a user dedication/honnesty
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It is possible that you are right. Then I do not understand the point of giving away karma, if to myself at the expense.
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This is a nice idea but I think the return is too much for someone who just want to appreciate the work of other member. I effect, this may lead to lack of interest to give karma to other from someone that has a good will, thus, it will be ineffective.
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My question is "what is the rule of this suggestion here if it will be granted by the admin?"
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karma is used as an appreciation and assessment of the attitude or behavior of a person in the forum. This is used so that ethics in being controlled and fixed for the sake of the progress of the forum itself. for that necessity of being honest and ethical.
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karma is used as an appreciation and assessment of the attitude or behavior of a person in the forum. This is used so that ethics in being controlled and fixed for the sake of the progress of the forum itself. for that necessity of being honest and ethical.
Well said Bram Manis. I'm always happy to see a member with a working brain. I look forward for more engaging discussions with you.