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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Claus on May 22, 2018, 10:08:21 AM
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
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I think delaying in payment does not prevent the bounty hunters from dumping it. Even it takes years, those who want to dump it will do so. There are instances where investors and even team members dump their coins. It is not every bounty hunter who dumps his coins so that assumption does not hold
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because the bounty Hunter will dump price after the token or coin of the bounty in share. usually Dev give time limit for investors enjoy profit in to once join in the project ICO.
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because the bounty Hunter will dump price after the token or coin of the bounty in share. usually Dev give time limit for investors enjoy profit in to once join in the project ICO.
so youre saying those who worked hard to attract those investors don't deserve to profit from the project. All i know is no matter how you delay payment if i should have personal issue that that particular coin will solve, I will so f**ing dump it with lighting speed.
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Dropping the token is individual based now. I know of someone who waits for the price to hit the moon before he sells it out, So for this I will say it is individual based.
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In my opinion, there are many things that make the hunters got the late delivery of their rewards.
1. The BM (bounty managers) is not completed the tokens stakes/calculation
2. The dev. team preparing to list their tokens to the "cheap" market (it has to be done in order to maintain the balance of their ICO price)
3. In some cases, there are projects that already release their tokens to the market, but not with the hunters (their excuse is to prevent the price being dumped and can't rise anymore, so the investors can enjoy their money)
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Yah it is one of the reason why. Another reason they would like to prioritize the investors as they trust the project and money. In return the team will give more attention to investor than bounty members. Sometimes it happens because of unexpected reasons such as change of rules and calamity.
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Yah it is one of the reason why. Another reason they would like to prioritize the investors as they trust the project and money. In return the team will give more attention to investor than bounty members. Sometimes it happens because of unexpected reasons such as change of rules and calamity.
Yes, that's the main point. The ICO was created to be prioritized to the investors, not only just for the bounty hunters. That's why the tokens/coins usually hit up the low-to-medium market before it hit a big one. (if the project is successful)
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
Bounty rewards are not distributed immediately after the end of ICOs not because bounty hunters would sell their token/coin once received, but bounty rewards are distributed based on the project road map or planned schedule of distribution of coin/ token as announced by most project.
Again, most bounty hunters decide to sell their token/coin is basically an individual choice and i think it has nothing to do with the timing, and or the late distribution of coin/ token.
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before distributing the token developer will see the market, if the token price is down then the developer will delay some of its distribution because in the worry it will be excessive dumping and dropping the token price in the market .
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because the bounty Hunter will dump price after the token or coin of the bounty in share. usually Dev give time limit for investors enjoy profit in to once join in the project ICO.
so youre saying those who worked hard to attract those investors don't deserve to profit from the project. All i know is no matter how you delay payment if i should have personal issue that that particular coin will solve, I will so f**ing dump it with lighting speed.
You can see the reality that is in the market. bounty hunter sells gifts too cheap and below the price of ICO. does it give good effect to investors? if this continues to be found in all ICO projects investors will be afraid to buy ICO tokens in the future.
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
There are many reasons, the main are: too many bounty participants, bounty managers lack of free time and so on, that's how you can realize if the project will succed, from how much are they willing to spend building a community.
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Because calculation of final stakes and reward takes time. There are different campaign so normally the manager will consume a lot of time before announcing the final reward.
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because the bounty Hunter will dump price after the token or coin of the bounty in share. usually Dev give time limit for investors enjoy profit in to once join in the project ICO.
so youre saying those who worked hard to attract those investors don't deserve to profit from the project. All i know is no matter how you delay payment if i should have personal issue that that particular coin will solve, I will so f**ing dump it with lighting speed.
You can see the reality that is in the market. bounty hunter sells gifts too cheap and below the price of ICO. does it give good effect to investors? if this continues to be found in all ICO projects investors will be afraid to buy ICO tokens in the future.
That usually happens when the coins are released on the low-to-middle market, try to give a lil' bit time off so the price would stabilize. That's why the "smart" bounty hunters sell a little bit of their payment first and hodl some coins so when the price is raising, they will get quite good amount of cash.
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because the bounty Hunter will dump price after the token or coin of the bounty in share. usually Dev give time limit for investors enjoy profit in to once join in the project ICO.
so youre saying those who worked hard to attract those investors don't deserve to profit from the project. All i know is no matter how you delay payment if i should have personal issue that that particular coin will solve, I will so f**ing dump it with lighting speed.
You can see the reality that is in the market. bounty hunter sells gifts too cheap and below the price of ICO. does it give good effect to investors? if this continues to be found in all ICO projects investors will be afraid to buy ICO tokens in the future.
That usually happens when the coins are released on the low-to-middle market, try to give a lil' bit time off so the price would stabilize. That's why the "smart" bounty hunters sell a little bit of their payment first and hodl some coins so when the price is raising, they will get quite good amount of cash.
you are very right. bounty hunter can not bear to hold a token gift that is given bounty in follow. whether bounty hunter can hold token for 2 or 3 months?
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there are some reasons why they do this kind of thing.. we all know that bounty hunters are tag as dumpers after they received their reward or maybe the team assigned to distribute it is busy or else they just don't want to reward hunters
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I think delaying the distribution of tokens will help curb how bounty hunters dump their coins. But there are some people who will dump their coins irrespective of the time it takes to get them.
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Sometimes they do that to safeguard the orice from dumping. Many bounty hunters especially those who get few tokens are fond of doing that
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By delaying the distribution of tokens, of course, to avoid the bounty hunter to directly sell because the price of tokens can directly go down very far. And they could not directly distribute as much once the participant to join so that they need to do the checking process.
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
Many ICO teams have indeed deliberately delayed the distribution of their new tokens to participants in ICO bounty campaigns in order to prevent a powerful dump of tokens on the exchange and, as a result, a sharp drop in the price of tokens. The teams even began to make these payments in installments over time. I doubt it was worth it. For a promising project, such a drop is only a temporary effect. I'm not really worried about this delay. If only tokens have a prospect for their price growth.
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Many project teams after taking months of work and applying tough rules for each task, try to create excuses and intentional delays after the campaign end, as if they do not want to distribute the rightful reward tokens earned by the bounty hunters for the job done.
I think such people should be trialed and punished for violating global labour laws.
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there are many reasons when the distributions of token for bounty hunter may also long because the data from bounty manager that has not been completed or the team still on verification data from bounty manager , and also have reason when the token distributed the price in market dropped.
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I think the main reason is that the tokens have not been sold and the gas fee is expensive, causing delays. the cause of the dump is not a bounty hunter because the bounty hunter only has a small token of the total supply
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
I think thats because they dont want their tokens to dump. Thats not a bad approach but having delayed on a schefule they set is a sin. Its like they already put a date and then they will change their mind is big red flag. But also people must realize that this is depend on team decision too.
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
Correction dude, they're a lot of tokens come from the different ico project where the distribution took years now up to the present there are some of them turned into forgotten. Just like Casper, Rachel, Stp, Aeternum, and many more these are just an example where up to the present never been send into my wallet. And those projects for me are scammers.
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Yep most of the bounties nowadays were late to distribute the reward, Well I guess there are many reason why they do late the distribution maybe the stakes are not calculated yet or there are some problems of the project so they focus on it than focusing the distribution.
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The fact is that most of the companies that carry out bounties list their tokens on scam exchanges, and on such exchanges the price of any token will always fall and this is not the fault of the bounty haunters, this is all the fault of the companies that want to save money on the listing.
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It may have something to do with ethereum gas fees which are very expensive. Most of the projects use ethereum wallets, so the distribution process requires large funds due to expensive gas fees. This causes many projects to end up delaying the distribution process.
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Rarely are bounties that has paid after more than 6 months and the prices of tokens are satisfy-able to the participants. 2016-17 were a pleasant time for bounty hunters. There could be a few rare cases but anything that held you coin for more than 6 month is a scam.
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I don't think that the reasons for late distribution of token by certain project is because hunters will dump the token, but i consider the delay of bounty distribution as planned strategies from most project team to allow investors sell their coin/token before other participants.
When a project is concluded and get listed on any exchange, there are tendency that the price of the coin will drop especially if Bitcoin drop. No one has been able to accurately predict the market and because of this prevailing situation, most project team always considered given the investor the previllage of selling their coin to reap some profit before bounty are even distributed.
However, I think that hunter are not the reason for any coin dump in my opinion because the highest bounty allocation to a campaign is just 1% or 2% of the pool. If hunter paid 1% of the total pool, how can 1% of bounty pool affect the coin price? We all know that the bulk of pool is own by the investor and project team, and I think that a dump or crash of the market price, if properly analyzed, it might has been caused either by the team or some investors. This remain my opinion on this situation. Thanks
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I believe the real reason why the Bounty token distribution is getting longer because the Team is afraid that the token/coin price will dump especially when the token has not enough trading volume, thats why for me if I found out that the distribution will take 1 year I never join with that campaign because I believe after 1 year those tokens has no value at all or the worst the team won't pay anymore like what happens on DigitalBits there team are a bunch of scammers. thats why that token is not worth to buy.
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
the reason is just very simple. the dev don't want hunters to dump and pull down the price. We all know that if hunters will sell immediately their reward for sure, the price will move down and #DevelopmentTeam don't want their token to crashed drastically.
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Nope, this is Not the reason. it is because Hunters are not valued just workers working illegally in a workplace where the owner choose to pay any time because you have little or no option. this is the case of hunters, project owners have little or no fate in them in developing the project meanwhile investors are the worst dumpers.
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I think it is the reason of Ethereum network coverage gas fees. In a bounty campaign project many bounties Hunters participants participate but due to high transactions gas fees they cannot charge gas fees and hence we cannot get payments.
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The reason for the late delivery of tokens to bounty hunter is that the owner of the company cannot develop the tokens properly in which case bounty does not come to hunter and the tokens go down. In this case both the investor and the person in charge of the management are affected.
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
Here many men says that bounty hunter makes the market down so that team decide to late payment but i am not agree with it because you see bounty tokens only 2/3% of total project so how they dump the market?? I think its team policy that they determine to give tokens after ico or investors token distribution nothing else.
thanks.
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Because a lot of companies are greedy and so they are sorry to give away their tokens, although I do not understand why they then hold a bounty.
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There are unexpected things that could affect and delay the payment. But the most cases that we all know is hunters are dumpers. Good to be right, but behind could be there is something hidden agenda why delay the reward. The possible reasons are; to control, greediness, abandonment, or maybe dead project.
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What I can tell you is that, no matter how long bounty or project managers or delay payment of bounty hunters, they will still pay cus if they don't, they will be tagged scam and the project may fail, ive seen this happen to ATS, payment to bounty hunters were abnormally delayed, at some point, participants got angry and started spamming the entire BTT thread of the project and calling them scammers, even those who bought ico got angry and started dumping the token, they thought paying bounty hunters would resolve the matter but it was too late, as soon as they started paying bounty hunters their tokens, they too started dumping cus everyone was angry already, that was how that project died till today.
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At present Bounty projects are successful but they are not paid. The members of the fraudulent group share them. Lately i am campaigning for the bounty project. Not received payment yet. Various types of fraud continue in the market. So I think there are some good people here now. Those will pay very soon. I am waiting for their payment. I worked, it is to be paid today. However I will not move the token too soon.
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We can predict Alot of reason behind it , first reason we can see that project owner didn't want to dump coin price if they immediately send coin to hunter when bounty is going to be end .
Payment in batches is really a Good way of distribution of coin :) .
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I don't know, they said a lot of reasons. And the delay in sending tokens for Bounty hunters is certainly very disappointing. Some say the delay in sending tokens is due to the expensive price of GAS, some say they are afraid of a significant dump in token prices.
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some say they are afraid of a significant dump in token prices.
I think it is unfair to blame the bounty hunter for the dump price, they delay distribution because they prioritize holders and investors for gain profit more.
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I think it is unfair to blame the bounty hunter for the dump price, they delay distribution because they prioritize holders and investors for gain profit more.
It's not fair if Bounty hunters get blamed, but the truth is that bounty hunters are always being blamed.
Even though the percentage is actually very small, Bounty hunter members can do the token price dumper, because the Bounty prize allocation will not be 2% greater than the total token supply amount, then is that possible.
Who also wants to work by just wasting the opportunity to earn a lot of money, Bounty Hunters also want to earn lots of money by selling tokens at high prices ?!
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I think the delay occurred because there are still internal problems that have not been completed in the project...
but this is just my assumption, after all, token delivery is only known by the team as well as their reasons.
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Some of the reasons I have experienced:
- Project scams, deliberately delaying the token distribution and then cancel that when exposed;
- Transaction costs are too high, team waits for more suitable time to pay tokens for hunters;
- The team is afraid that hunters will sell off tokens from the bounty campaign, making price of the token drops = vague and unreasonable fear;
- The team intentionally reduces the reward for the hunters, deliberately delaying to reduce opposition from the hunters.
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You are right what i think is that why bounty coin receive late because project team gives profit to buyer and then they send coins to bounty hunter then coin dump to much they why late delivery for bounty hunters.
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You are right what i think is that why bounty coin receive late because project team gives profit to buyer and then they send coins to bounty hunter then coin dump to much they why late delivery for bounty hunters.
If so then the profits are investors and traders? so that the bounty hunter only received a small amount of the result?
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You are right what i think is that why bounty coin receive late because project team gives profit to buyer and then they send coins to bounty hunter then coin dump to much they why late delivery for bounty hunters.
If so then the profits are investors and traders? so that the bounty hunter only received a small amount of the result?
It has always been that way. There is nothing the project teams can do about early investors. As soon as their token enters the exchange, early investors dump them, making a decent income with a purchase discount.
Taking advantage of the fact that this activity is not yet regulated, the participants of the bounty ICO campaigns of the team are sometimes imposed various additional conditions or delays in payments, hoping that the bounty hunters will not lower the price of the token. However, as a rule, the offer to buy a token is initially small and even insignificant sales volumes lead to a drop in their price.
Now bounty hunters are also delayed with payments and with increased amounts of transaction costs for the transfer of tokens to the wallets of bounty hunters.
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There are many reasons about it, but as long as the reason makes sense, no problem with that. We know if the team of bounty manager needs time to prepare it. We cannot force them to pay us very soon, especially if they already stated the time of distribution after a month or more of the end of the bounty.
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they are various reason for late delivery which the reason are always determined or best know by the manager or the team, but some of the related or basic reason is prevent the price reduce or dump at initial stage, so they give space for the token to gain it stand before distribution.
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It has always been that way. There is nothing the project teams can do about early investors. As soon as their token enters the exchange, early investors dump them, making a decent income with a purchase discount.
If so, will the project survive. if how to delay bounty payment to prevent price dump? I think that such a project is not attractive to investors so the price will decrease
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I think some token never dump by bounty Hunters because if anyone took participated in origin protocol Airdrop campaign he should see market. Origin protocol price touched highest after distributing airdrop rewards to Hunters.
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There is always challenge of distribution of bounty rewards for bounty participants with most projects citing flimsy excuses of hunters dumping rewards. Over time, this has been proven to be false for most projects with the team and investors guilty of token dumps at the expense of hunters. Most times, once hunters rewards are distributed, they become worthless.
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Bounties hunters has not been treated fairly ever since the inception. till date, hunters are still not paid till date when payment is due. it is quite obvious that project owners has not placed values on hunters or the marketing team. they failed to respect the terms and conditions been offered during campaign. This is 2020 and issues of 2018 is yet to be deal with.
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I could remember earlier in time both bounty hunters and ico buyers get token same time before listing. This gives the token a good opportunity at the market. When bounty hunters token is withheld this days it puts the project at disadvantage, because if price goes down they always afraid to send out hunters reward.
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There is a few reasons why they do this things. We know that bounty seekers are as dumpers after they gotten their coins/tokens or possibly they sold so soon.
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It may have something to do with ethereum gas fees which are very expensive. Most of the projects use ethereum wallets, so the distribution process requires large funds due to expensive gas fees. This causes many projects to end up delaying the distribution process.
Yep uniswap makes Ethereum alive as well as all time higher gas fees. You know 2 years ago I was used myetherwallet & as maximum i only used 10 gwei as a transaction cost. Now!!!!!!!
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I have realized that nowadays because bounty hunters drop the tokens they get immediately its transferred into their wallet, and so ICO's takes more time to give them their Bounty rewards. I want to know is it that reason why it takes them weeks and even months before they give us out tokens or there are also new things under the sun. Let me hear from you side. What is the reason?
Here many men says that bounty hunter makes the market down so that team decide to late payment but i am not agree with it because you see bounty tokens only 2/3% of total project so how they dump the market??
The reason for the late rewards of tokens to bounty seeker is that the management team of the company cannot create the tokens legitimately in which case bounty does not come to hunters and the tokens go down price.
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At least they deliver it. Now there are not a lot of new projects and projects try to find other marketing ideas instead of arranging a bounty campaign in the forum. Many projects just don't want to pay hunters by fearing they will dump the market. The project offers very little to hunters but still, they blame hunters for price dump!
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Of course there must be some reason why the bounty coin is not being distributed immediately. The reason is because gas fees are currently high, maybe. Or because the project manager really needs time before finally giving bounty rewards. Because there are so many distributions for participants, for the sake of smooth distribution, careful preparation is needed.
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If you look at the experience that the price of coins falls very deeply because many bounty hunters throw coins away. With payment delays, this is certainly their strategy to avoid the price of coins collapsing. As long as the project continues to be active in developing the project, I don't think we as bounty hunters need to panic. But if they make a payment delay and the project is no longer active, it may end in fraud.
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slow distribution there are many possibilities, maybe the data from the BM is not enough, it could also be that the shipping fee is too high, but there are also those from the dev who postpone payments for fear of falling prices. But in my opinion, if it is a classy project and has a large enough community they will not be afraid of hunters, hunters also have the calculation to get 2x the profit from the ICO price if possible.
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Using dump as an excuise to delay payment of bounty hunters rewards to me is not accepted, if a project is good enough, dump cannot be a treat because many will rush in to fill their bags and thereby pump the price up again. Most of these dev and team are just too greedy and are not faithful at all. Why do you decide to conduct a bounty when you are afraid that bounty hunters will dump the price of your coin.
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Most times, majority of bounties have highlighted the schedules for token delivery to bounty hunters, usually ranging from 2 weeks after bounty, or 3 months after bounty. One prominent reason why i think there are usually late deliveries is due to the time it takes to complete the spreadsheet and award stakes for hunters.
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This is very common in bounty hunters. Most of the project didn't give the payment of the bounty hunters in time for this reason hunters and at same time investors also reflect negative attitude towards those project. I assume that those project late to delivery their token i think they have some thing wrong and it will impact on their project.
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Currently, most payments are made a few months after listing on the exchange. Previously, it was possible to sell tokens on DEX exchanges before listing on the official exchange. At the same time, some people think that bounty hunters kill the course, although you can see that even when the hunters do not get their reward, the bad projects always have the course going down.
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Usually the payment for campaign participants will be late because it requires a process for the developer to send the allocated tokens, unless the bounty manager has saved the allocations entrusted by the developer, the bounty manager will distribute it immediately.
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Sometimes we must accept that the late for token distribution is okay. The team needs to finalize everything well and no mistake made by them. In my opinion, all bounty hunters should accept the reason for the late in bounty reward distribution as long as they have a reason that makes sense. The late is much better than the team of the project don't pay the bounty hunters with rewards. or the team just cut the number of rewards much.
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Bounty hunters are always part of the success of a project the reason why they deserve their payment for their labor. But since they will have it by not risking their pocket so the team prioritized the investors to gain first that is why they send the payment for bounty with a little longer. That's okey in the first place as long as the bounty hunters will receive the payment. The disadvantage price of the token most of the time already dropped to -50% if not more than that sometime. Well, it is what it is and as bounty hunters there's nothing we can do about it but to move on.
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It is one of the major problem for the bounty hunters as they have to wait long days to get their payment. There are several reasons for this delaying. The main cause may be to protect their market. They think, their market may fall after token distribution among the bounty hunters. Sometimes the project delay to launch their token in the exchange for that they take long time for payment. Some project administrations make delay the payment without any cause. Overall bounty hunters are looser for this situation.
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usually what makes things late is the team from the developer because so far the bounty manager has usually done his job well but after everything is done the data will be sent to the developer and awaiting the allocation to be given to the bounty manager.
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Possibly yes. Bounty hunters are always excited to get their reward and most of them don't care about the future price of their coins so they easily trade at at the lower price which is creating negative impact to the investors.
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The reason the tokens are delivered late to the bounty hunter is because the owner of the company has not been able to develop the tokens properly and the bounty does not come to the hunter and the tokens fall. In this case, both the investor and the person responsible for management are affected.
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Bounty campaigns are no longer viable and does not stand the chance of getting you as a hunter any better payment. it is advisable to avoid bounty now and sort out other ways to make money in crypto. i think trading might be risky but it is still favorable than bounty hunting. we are tired of admins changing rules at the end of the campaign.
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Actually, this condition is very common to happen in the bounty program. There are commonly
1. Changing the rules after the week of bounty ends so suddenly
2. DOing KYC although not need right now
3. Get into the complicated ways to claim the rewards
4. Bounty hunters must be always treated so complicatedly
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Escrow is the solution to make the payment/reward tokens to distribute on time to the bounty hunters. As long as no escrow, the delay or late delivery will continue. Many bounties which are paid in their tokens, most of them are very late to distribute. Even some never distribute to the bounty hunters.
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It is in influence by many reasons such as roadmap,market possibility,the target token price, and of course base on what was planned. In some cases it wasn't hunters who are responsible of token dump, instead hunters are just the one who put to blame.
Yes, we are hunters but some of us think and behave differently when they've received the tokens.
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Basically it depends on the team of the project they decide the distribution date. They know what is the condition of the project and when it should be distributed. They need to complete their all activates regarding bounty program. Actually, this condition is very common to happen in the bounty program. There are some issues like bounty date changing ,KYC process, hunter Claim solution etc are the major factor to late.
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this is a common thing. many projects have delayed or delayed the distribution of tokens. This could be due to technical errors or indeed from network problems. It could also be because the project team is not ready.
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This happens mostly with projects that are still struggling with liquidity issue for the coins or tokens, so they try to manage their asset price by controlling the amount in circulation.