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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: MrSpasybo on June 27, 2021, 12:09:36 AM

Title: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 27, 2021, 12:09:36 AM
Bullrun 2021 is very different from bullrun 2017, when there are not only retail investors, but also large companies, financial investment funds, and in my opinion even governments. We see Grayscale & MicroStrategy collecting Bitcoin & Altcoins, and we believe this bodes well for the whole market.

That is true, but only in the short term. I see big future risks coming from such institutional investors:
+They are investors, which means they store crypto and then sell crypto for profit: Right now they are buying, the market will get a positive impact, but when they sell , things are going to be worse than what we've been through in the last 5 weeks;

+These companies are quite capable of becoming new whales, with more financial capacity than private whales. Manipulation can be more serious when these companies band together in a large global campaign.

What do you think about the impact of large companies and large investment funds participation? Is their participation really valuable to crypto market? What is more necessary for crypto: They or regulatory frameworks?
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Ferki on June 27, 2021, 07:12:49 AM
For the adoption of crypto, it can only be beneficial and only mean one thing, growth, if the big companies get involved.
Such companies will certainly not sell in the event of a loss and the cryptos plunge into the depths. They must have thought carefully about what they are doing.
There has always been manipulation and there always will be.

Btw, buy to sell it later is the point of the thing with such assets, or not? What should there  be wrong and critical for the future?
Don't give away your cryptos too cheaply, don't buy them if you can't hold them.
And swim with the whales.

Regulation of the whole thing is unstoppable, the governments want their piece of cake too.
 In a regulated market, investors are of great importance for correct adoption. The profits will no longer be so big, volatility will change. The only hope is that you have learned something from it and tell the children about it. Investing in crypto is not that different from investments of any other kind, you always have to be well-informed, you have to know what you are investing in.
The only thing that makes a difference is long term versus short term. Short term can also be profitable but compared to long term it is a gamble.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: TomPluz on June 27, 2021, 12:06:49 PM


While there are differences in the bull run that happened in 2017 and in 2021, I also see some similarities. One, it never lasted that long and eventually what came up also came down though the difference is that unlike in 2017/2018 where the Bitcoin winter really raged today in my opinion Bitcoin is not doing that bad. Now, retail investors also came in 2017 for profits the same kind of mindset that institutional investors are into, the big difference is the kind of power and influence to the marketplace that these big investors are holding...a big whale can surely influence where Bitcoin is going in terms of price.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: tvplus006 on June 27, 2021, 01:03:57 PM
The more companies will hold cryptocurrency, the smaller the number will be available for free sale on the market. Thus, large companies will set an example to others and emphasize the value of such a hold, which will necessarily lead to an increase in the value of the coin.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: lepbagong on June 27, 2021, 01:23:41 PM
The more companies will hold cryptocurrency, the smaller the number will be available for free sale on the market. Thus, large companies will set an example to others and emphasize the value of such a hold, which will necessarily lead to an increase in the value of the coin.
hope as you say is a wish that can happen but it seems bad news that always haunts bitcoin where there are not a few who believe in news like that. so that bitcoin activity is clearly disrupted and it's not surprising that corrections can occur and are quite long and we don't know how long it will be finished.

we hope that there are still many companies that are not disturbed by news like that which creates an exaggerated sense of fear. hopefully what you say that the more companies that hold and hold it, will be able to make bitcoin rise again. we will wait for it and be faithful so that everything can go according to the goals that many people want.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: pealr12 on June 27, 2021, 08:13:05 PM
At this current price of btc only companies and institutions can own a huge amount of it because they are the only ones who have large sum of capital to invest,  how many individuals or retailers can afford to buy large sum of btc, yes it is a bit scary to have few individuals in control of a good percentage of btc however it is the part of the way to have new investors coming and buying btc to raise the price.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Bitstar_coin on June 27, 2021, 08:46:08 PM
Yeah it seem very uncomfortable to know this companies hold a lot of btc and cam at anytime decided to sell and dump the market just like what Tesla did, companies like MicroStrategy who are among the top list of this companies some who pose a threat to the market, they have the power to control and manipulate the market as they see fit and nobody can question them, this type of reason is why btc can't serve as a general accepted mode of payment because few people have too much of it already.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Giangphuong8489 on June 28, 2021, 01:25:36 AM
Actually, I am not interested in the participation of companies and governments in the crypto market, even though that may be the main driver. My goal is just to join and make profit in fiat. I never thought I would accumulate BTC for future use.
I also don't want a regulatory framework, as crypto taxes are a big deal for investors.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Senin on June 28, 2021, 08:26:50 AM
Of course, joining this market of large companies and their investments in cryptocurrency, in particular, bitcoin, will certainly have a positive effect on the entire cryptocurrency market. In any case, the more participants there will be in this market and the higher the level of their investments, the more developed this market will be. Any participant in this market comes to it to make a profit. Large companies are no exception. Therefore, I do not see any obstacles for their further participation in this market.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Seerge on June 29, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
In my opinion, this Crypto Market is influenced by supply and demand in the market.  If a big company joins in a Crypto project and invests a large amount, of course it will have a big influence on price changes in the market. 
That is the first influence, the second is if there are big companies that join in Cryptocurrency, this will affect the mentality of traders and investors, and where the company invests then Traders and Investors will follow it, and this will increasingly make big price changes  in the Crypto market.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: masterrex on June 29, 2021, 03:04:08 PM
Bullrun 2021 is very different from bullrun 2017, when there are not only retail investors, but also large companies, financial investment funds, and in my opinion even governments. We see Grayscale & MicroStrategy collecting Bitcoin & Altcoins, and we believe this bodes well for the whole market.

That is true, but only in the short term. I see big future risks coming from such institutional investors:
+They are investors, which means they store crypto and then sell crypto for profit: Right now they are buying, the market will get a positive impact, but when they sell , things are going to be worse than what we've been through in the last 5 weeks;

+These companies are quite capable of becoming new whales, with more financial capacity than private whales. Manipulation can be more serious when these companies band together in a large global campaign.

What do you think about the impact of large companies and large investment funds participation? Is their participation really valuable to crypto market? What is more necessary for crypto: They or regulatory frameworks?

I think we are just overreacted, the mainstream companies and governments who bought and hold Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are also investors like the rest of us, In that case, I believe they have the right to liquidate their Bitcoin and other crypto holdings if they want just like the rest of us, so there's nothing wrong with it and for me, it's more beneficial to the crypto Industry if many mainstream companies are coming in, to pour their investment into the crypto industry. so that the crypto industry will be adopted a lot faster and its already happening now.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Bobcrypto on June 29, 2021, 03:07:16 PM
It is obvious that a continuing cryptocurrecy adoptions is a steady growth and value of Btcoin and many altcoins. The more institutions are embracing cryptocurrecy the best for price increase. I am sure that with in a few years from now, Bitcoin/altcoin will gain more rapid growth and development.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Giangphuong8489 on June 29, 2021, 06:00:48 PM
It is obvious that a continuing cryptocurrecy adoptions is a steady growth and value of Btcoin and many altcoins. The more institutions are embracing cryptocurrecy the best for price increase. I am sure that with in a few years from now, Bitcoin/altcoin will gain more rapid growth and development.
I agree that the participation of companies will make the crypto market grow, but that is only in the short term because when they have accumulated too much crypto, they will become whales and find ways to manipulate market to make profit. I still think that decentralization both in terms of network and quantity of BTC is still better.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Review Master on June 29, 2021, 07:54:16 PM
I am sure that with in a few years from now, Bitcoin/altcoin will gain more rapid growth and development.

Indeed, more adoption means more growth on bitcoin and other alts. If we just preview the bitcoin's chart from the beginning, than we can see only uptrend with little bit correction or bear market. But institutional investment is having great impact on the market growth as well as few companies create fear among the retailers by selling their hodlings so that they could accumulate more at dip in the correction time. But diamond hand hodlers won't have any impact because of those companies as they're in this market for long term purposes. ;)
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: eldial on June 29, 2021, 10:38:29 PM
Honestly it is not easy to joined a companies own a lot of crypto but negative impact to the crypto because all members in the companies are wondering there works how to handle a new system in the company rules but it depend the capacity of a companies.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: TERMINO on June 30, 2021, 03:34:25 PM
Valuable and dangerous. They can pump the token also can dump if they choose to control as they hold a lot of token percentage. I wish they don't become greedy to look just for themselves to gain as much as they can. They can actually help small holders to have profit if they will pump the price.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Jaephoenix on June 30, 2021, 04:35:41 PM
I think in the long term, it would be a negative impact, cos whale effects can crash prices and cause a mini-bear market
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: bigcash2011 on June 30, 2021, 11:02:18 PM
In many parts of the world, the momentum is just starting as big funds, institutes and organizations are now finally entering crypto after long due diligence and also regulatory approval so generally im super bullish for coming months.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: xeroz on June 30, 2021, 11:54:07 PM
Isn't it if more people buy Crypto both from companies and other institutions get better? I know the risk is if they can easily play market prices. But at least if they don't cause fud as what is going on with Elon Musk so far in the crypto market.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Noverteno on October 19, 2021, 01:40:09 PM
Usually, campaigns are more balanced and judicious about price jumps in the cryptocurrency market than individuals, and therefore you should expect less panic from them. However, they also buy cryptocurrency for profit and can also quickly dump it if it is logical and necessary to maintain their profit. In addition, large campaigns are better able to defend their rights compared to ordinary citizens, and in this case they will defend the cryptocurrency. Therefore, I consider it positive that more and more campaigns are buying cryptocurrency lately.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: TOP_ETH on December 10, 2021, 11:42:14 AM
Of course there are positive and negative impacts in terms of profitable sales, but don't sell all assets, it will have an impact in the future
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Freemind on December 10, 2021, 11:48:05 AM
It is positive and negative at the same time from my point of view. I think it really depends on the amounts and the crypto, which is usually Bitcoin. Large companies can be a great ally for the market by keeping large amounts unsold, but they can also be the worst enemy if at a certain moment the market shoots up in a way never seen before, since they could sell part of their holdings and damage the whole market.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on December 10, 2021, 06:28:39 PM
Yes, they can act like a whale and that is not good for the market now they are slowly-slowly buying the dips and accumulating the large no of bitcoin so bitcoin is slowly going into the hand of big players and they can manipulate the market through their big stake in the market. I believe small investors can make the market much much better rather than big players.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: mahadev on December 10, 2021, 06:36:33 PM
Bullrun 2021 is very different from bullrun 2017, when there are not only retail investors, but also large companies, financial investment funds, and in my opinion even governments. We see Grayscale & MicroStrategy collecting Bitcoin & Altcoins, and we believe this bodes well for the whole market.

That is true, but only in the short term. I see big future risks coming from such institutional investors:
+They are investors, which means they store crypto and then sell crypto for profit: Right now they are buying, the market will get a positive impact, but when they sell , things are going to be worse than what we've been through in the last 5 weeks;

+These companies are quite capable of becoming new whales, with more financial capacity than private whales. Manipulation can be more serious when these companies band together in a large global campaign.

What do you think about the impact of large companies and large investment funds participation? Is their participation really valuable to crypto market? What is more necessary for crypto: They or regulatory frameworks?

I think companies own alot of crypto will have  good impact If they will have bad strategy for market.
I think They can make market go down.
But It's just my prediction.
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Jaephoenix on December 11, 2021, 12:47:43 AM
That's  a new development and its evident now there is a burgeoning mainstream adoption of crypto. These institutional investors can make or wreak a project. Reason why there is an anti-whale code on smart contracts
Title: Re: Companies own a lot of crypto: positive or negative impact for crypto market?
Post by: Ghozrd on December 11, 2021, 04:03:56 AM
Big companies like Tesla, it will be in my consideration if the company plans to buy more coins for the long term, as we know, after Elon Musk spread FUD, with information Tesla no longer accepts Bitcoin for payment due to energy reasons that Bitcoin uses for mining is energy from fossils so it has had an impact on price declines and the level of confidence of new investors at that time, now retail and institutional investors already have a lot of experience, they will not sell coins at low prices, because they believe, long term profits is in the future