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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: Domithra on May 28, 2018, 11:59:22 PM

Title: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Domithra on May 28, 2018, 11:59:22 PM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Alcor on May 29, 2018, 12:20:52 AM
So far, this is one of the biggest contradictions that does not allow states to quickly legalize the currency. The contradiction between the decentralized nature of the crypto currency and the interests of the government, which has always been in control, will remain a stumbling block to them always.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: u01p113 on June 05, 2018, 05:28:40 PM
 Every government in the world wants to control every money transaction. Right now it is hard to do with Bitcoin but I believe in time they will come up with the solution.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: CryptoJolly on June 05, 2018, 05:37:56 PM
Yea I also think it is just the matter of the time. I think decentralization concept will be killed , but blockchain technologies used for future instruments.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: masudginanjar on August 14, 2018, 02:38:06 PM
Bitcoin does not need to be legalized by the government, because when it is legalized it will be centralized, as the Bank accepts Bitcoin with one server from various customers.

when Bitcoin is centered it is very dangerous, because when it is cracked it will all get hit.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Omega on August 14, 2018, 04:56:26 PM
In my opinion once bitcoin and government goes together to promote the common good for citizens and economic growth purposes will be greater than what it is today's issue of value volatility and government regulations for everybody's gain.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: sugarchrisp on August 15, 2018, 08:37:48 AM
While I completely agree with the decentralization aspect of bitcoin, I fundamentally disagree with using it to avoid taxes.  Society NEEDS money to fund things that the public uses, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, firemen, police, parks.  Taxes are the only way we can pay for these things, and while very wealthy people avoid taxes all the time, that doesn't mean we should.  Society would fall apart without the resources that come from taxation.  The wealthy people who avoid taxation will eventually fall, but it may take a long time for that to occur.  We cannot and should not follow their lead and dodge as many taxes as possible, we just need to make them pay their fair share. 
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Moykoy on August 16, 2018, 05:13:55 PM
the government can apply its tax rules to businesses, but here is the case of Bitcoin does not allow the full autonomy of the government over people's transactions, causing conflict between these two entities.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Master107 on August 16, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
Government helps bitcoin to grow and will progress as much as they can. Sometimes government doesn't want to let bitcoin subdue the land of economy because they have something to be afraid of losing fiat instantly without solid preparation.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: altcoingamer on August 16, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
While I completely agree with the decentralization aspect of bitcoin, I fundamentally disagree with using it to avoid taxes.  Society NEEDS money to fund things that the public uses, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, firemen, police, parks.  Taxes are the only way we can pay for these things, and while very wealthy people avoid taxes all the time, that doesn't mean we should.  Society would fall apart without the resources that come from taxation.  The wealthy people who avoid taxation will eventually fall, but it may take a long time for that to occur.  We cannot and should not follow their lead and dodge as many taxes as possible, we just need to make them pay their fair share.

I'm fine as long as they are taxed fairly and I think in some cases, this is definitely not the case.. like to like trades is an absurdity and short-term capital gains vs long-term capital gains is a bit over the top too...just tax it based off of long term capital gains and only tax cashout transactions.. taxing TRX to BTC is like taxing magic the gathering cards trades.. its either money or it isn't...they don't get it both ways.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: expander on August 21, 2018, 09:52:59 AM
In fact, the government still has complete control over financial regulations. But I am sure, if they have more knowledge about what bitcoin is, technology and the benefits of bitcoin, they will accept the existence of bitcoin. This is only a matter of time.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: JasmineRose on August 21, 2018, 11:24:51 AM
Every government in the world wants to control every money transaction. Right now it is hard to do with Bitcoin but I believe in time they will come up with the solution.

You right, payment system is not simple think. Need carefulness to make it go well
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Doctor on August 21, 2018, 03:29:36 PM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

Yes It is true, I think The government shoukd acceot and legalize bitcoin. Because many advantages of bitcoin.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Eben on August 21, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

I strongly believe this conflict can be solved to allow the acceptance of bitcoin by government some time to come. It’s food that government use money from taxations to undertake developmental projects in countries thereby not having this full control of it has led to it’s rejection in various countries but I believe something will be done to address it.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: TERMINO on August 21, 2018, 05:39:58 PM
We all know the government is powerful, the only one who have the key to make every impossible into possible or vice versa. Bitcoin is indifferent way which is decentralized system. This kind of system is what the government doesn't like anymore. Centralized way versus decentralized is very difficult to mingle each other. No progress and improvement if no one step down.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: elbans89 on August 22, 2018, 02:34:45 AM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

Yes I think the goverment should accept bitcoin. Because decentralize is the future technology.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: pacar_tiri on August 22, 2018, 03:10:47 AM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

Decentralize is good platform for payment system and currency. I think the governement should support it.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Anti frustasi on August 22, 2018, 07:21:58 AM
Indeed the role of government is very necessary in making decisions about bitcoin to experience development after they formally launch bitcoin well, surely someone is not afraid when investing and certainly can reduce the occurrence of sustainable unemployment.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Ahmad Arwanj on August 22, 2018, 02:48:44 PM
currently the government is still neutral with the existence of bitcoin transactions in my country.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Miftakhul2 on August 22, 2018, 04:35:33 PM
the government is currently trying to make regulations for bitcoin, so bitcoin in the country will be legitimate and the government and the state will always advance
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Quantum X on August 22, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
although there's a conflict between them we can't deny the possibility that in the end bitcoin will become fully centralized because bitcoin can't be possible to be globally working without the influence of the government .
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: Rivaldi Kunkun on August 23, 2018, 07:11:31 AM
It is this difference, the Government wants a centralized and decentralized nature of the bitcoin making yet more countries that are capable of accepting and implementing the bitcoin legalizing, rather be used as means of payment.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: mikaela23 on August 23, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

I think if the government want to get the bitcoin i think they will not accepted especially if they have a many investor they don`t like the government. Many investor we join to bitcoin and they don`t like a tax for bitcoin that's why they have many investor put there money in bitcoin and they have a big problem if the government push they self to get the tax for bitcoin. Because bitcoin they have no exact price every day or days that's why is very difficult to have a arrangement for them and to bitcoin.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: rizqillah on August 23, 2018, 09:10:44 AM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

Yes I think The government should accept and legalize bitcoin and crypto currency, They can to take taxes from transaction.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: rhubygold23 on August 23, 2018, 10:38:12 AM
it so very conflictable if the government will go to bitcoin or they will given tax for bitcoin is not allowed the bitcoin in government.
Title: Re: The government and Bitcoin
Post by: nakmantu99 on August 23, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
Governments are much more interested in centralization where they can exercise much power in the financial transactions of the people. With this, the government can implement its tax regulations on businesses, but here is the case Bitcoin doesn't allow the full autonomy of the government over the transactions of the people, thereby causing a conflict between these two entities.

Bitcoin is the future technology, It will be needed in the future. So, the government should accept bitcoin to take the taxes from their transaction.