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Title: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: dkbit98 on January 10, 2024, 01:04:02 PM
Are there any plans to add option for members to create self-moderated topics or something similar like we have in other forums?

Most of the time I would just create normal topics, but sometimes I expect to receive a lot of spam and low value posts, so I would like to keep certain topics clean.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: examplens on January 10, 2024, 01:17:19 PM
Are there any plans to add option for members to create self-moderated topics or something similar like we have in other forums?

Most of the time I would just create normal topics, but sometimes I expect to receive a lot of spam and low value posts, so I would like to keep certain topics clean.

I don't know if you noticed, but you can't even delete your post here. You can edit it, and remove the content, but you cannot completely remove it from the forum.
Once published, it stays forever. For the self-moderated function, you probably need admin privileges.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: admin on January 10, 2024, 03:12:41 PM
bounty managers have self moderated threads
i might extend it in the future

certain special ranks have self moderated and ability to delete.

Why deletion is limited ? because some users abused to earn points, answering the topic, deleting the answer then answering again and again to earn points that can be exchanged into our token ...
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: Jokers on January 10, 2024, 05:19:32 PM
Most of the time I would just create normal topics, but sometimes I expect to receive a lot of spam and low value posts, so I would like to keep certain topics clean.

This function can be misused by trolls, so I don't think we need it on a regular base. It is okay when it is given to some respected users like campaign managers so they can better organize their work, but regular users can use a report button and if someone will overspam some topics, the violators will get penalties.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: examplens on January 11, 2024, 12:36:48 PM
Why deletion is limited ? because some users abused to earn points, answering the topic, deleting the answer then answering again and again to earn points that can be exchanged into our token ...

It's amazing how resourceful scammers are, it's a shame that they don't apply it to useful things.

For such cases, wasn't it possible to set that deleting a post will automatically delete a certain amount of forum points? This would perhaps encourage more attention to be paid to the quality of the posts because they don't want to lose points in case the moderator deletes his post as spam.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: dkbit98 on January 11, 2024, 04:21:05 PM
I don't know if you noticed, but you can't even delete your post here. You can edit it, and remove the content, but you cannot completely remove it from the forum.
Once published, it stays forever. For the self-moderated function, you probably need admin privileges.
I didn't know about that, but that is weird decision to remove delete option from members.
That means that only moderators can delete posts.

Why deletion is limited ? because some users abused to earn points, answering the topic, deleting the answer then answering again and again to earn points that can be exchanged into our token ...
I know that cheaters are always going to find holes to abuse any system, but to disable deletion for all members is not good solution.
You could disable it only for members caught cheating and for new members with low reputation.

This function can be misused by trolls, so I don't think we need it on a regular base. It is okay when it is given to some respected users like campaign managers so they can better organize their work, but regular users can use a report button and if someone will overspam some topics, the violators will get penalties.
I can survive without self-moderated topics but I need delete function for regular use.

Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: hair on January 11, 2024, 04:38:53 PM
I think it is not necessary, we love altcoinstalks without a deleted button.  I agree with admin

AltcoinsTalks has been established for almost 7 years and the members have no complaints about this. One thing we can also minimize for the cheater wants to remove the evidence because they deleted their posts

if you want to delete the post just use " report to moderator " or post here if you find the scammer, Plagiarism, etc https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=323.0
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: masudginanjar on January 12, 2024, 03:15:11 AM
Most of the time I would just create normal topics, but sometimes I expect to receive a lot of spam and low value posts, so I would like to keep certain topics clean.
This function can be misused by trolls, so I don't think we need it on a regular base. It is okay when it is given to some respected users like campaign managers so they can better organize their work, but regular users can use a report button and if someone will overspam some topics, the violators will get penalties.
Yeps, I totally agree with you, these trolls are really annoying and in the last few years have even created very strange posts.
If there is a "Self Moderated" button or something like that, it is very dangerous, because it can be misused, for example:

-He created an account
-Create posts
-after many reviews and replies he deleted it
-Or messing up the thread

*In my opinion, this button is only given to those who have certain positions, such as President and Vice, Modz, Bounty Manager etc. Cmiiw
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: hugeblack on January 13, 2024, 11:41:48 AM
if you want to delete the post just use " report to moderator " or post here if you find the scammer, Plagiarism, etc https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=323.0
Is it possible to create a local rule, meaning that I write at the top of the topic the word local rule in addition to some rules such as not allowing replies of less than 100 words, or only pictures are allowed (Technical Analysis discussions),... etc, so that when I click “report to moderator” local rule is used as a reference?
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: Stompix on January 14, 2024, 09:28:37 AM
Most of the time I would just create normal topics, but sometimes I expect to receive a lot of spam and low value posts, so I would like to keep certain topics clean.

This function can be misused by trolls, so I don't think we need it on a regular base. It is okay when it is given to some respected users like campaign managers so they can better organize their work, but regular users can use a report button and if someone will overspam some topics, the violators will get penalties.

I'm too against self moderated topics!

It works as a last resort option on BTT because the lax moderation there, basically as long as you post more than 5 words and it was a proper sentence in English by French standards nobody really cared about it anyhow and we had moderators going on months long holidays, if shitposts are deleted by mods and if this karma system has actually worked I really don't see the reasons for self-moderation. It will act like censorship when somebody doesn't want to hear what a specific user has to say, and although good in theory it failed in some instances miserably even there.

I can understand not willing to read somebody's reply but banning someone from expressing his view because you don't like it is a slippery slope!

As for the delete button, it would be nice if the option would be there for like 10 minutes (or other random interval) after the post. Probably too much work for it and if nobody requested it before then the only user case would be like this moron right here  ;D who pressed quote instead of edit without realizing and double posted. Already reported it myself but it would have been nice not to bother the mods when it's a stupid mistake !
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on January 14, 2024, 10:16:33 AM
In the end, as far as I can see, with all the new members who have come to altcoinstalk from BTT we can make some suggestions for improvement, but we have to get used to the fact that this forum is different and that there will be things here that work differently than over there.

In my case, I don't care about self-moderated threads. I don't think I've ever used them there, but I would prefer it if there was an option to delete posts here, even temporarily as Stompix says, although I understand that because of the abuse problem mentioned it's not allowed.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: admin on January 14, 2024, 06:32:14 PM
feature now available in the shop
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315406.0

Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: KingsDen on February 21, 2024, 10:23:55 PM
bounty managers have self moderated threads
i might extend it in the future
I don't even think that self moderation is appropriate in threads. Announcement threads or campaign threads needs freedom of speech incase anything related to scam.

You can make it such that people of certain rank and reputation can use the self moderation feature. A scammer or troll can buy it from the shop and abuse it.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: hugeblack on February 22, 2024, 09:49:59 AM
I don't even think that self moderation is appropriate in threads. Announcement threads or campaign threads needs freedom of speech incase anything related to scam.

I agree with you, but it seems that scam here is moderated by admin and they interfere in these topics, so if paid account features are being misused, report it to mods and they may delete the topic or lock it.
If Self-moderated topics are abused, as happened with BTT digital good section, then this feature should be strictly restricted, even for paid accounts.
Title: Re: Self-moderated topics?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 04, 2024, 11:24:26 AM
I don't even think that self moderation is appropriate in threads. Announcement threads or campaign threads needs freedom of speech incase anything related to scam.
Having a feature is good. Abusive people will try to abuse everything they have and to restrict them it does not make sense to remove or not introduce a useful feature.

Self moderated threads are useful in many ways. Once the community will become bigger, the number of trolls will grow too. Without a self moderated thread it's impossible to control the trolls if you want to focus in a discussion.