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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Suggestion Box => Topic started by: examplens on January 15, 2024, 03:30:22 PM
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Well, the admin started a shop for some additional features on the forum.
For those who haven't seen it, here: Altcoins Talks Shop (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315406.0)
Since the shop thread is only for those who buy some of the offered features, I will open this thread for discussion, I am very interested in the opinions of other members. I will mention only one part, the one that probably interests all members the most, anyway, everyone should visit the shop thread for more info.
What is available to buy ?
1- Features/ Abilities:
- Notify reply ability >> Ask for notification when there is a reply on a topic. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Notify new topic >> Ask for notification when there is a new topic in a specific section. >>> Burn 5$ worth of ALTT token
- Delete own reply >> Be able to delete your own posts. >>> Burn 5$ worth of ALTT token
- Delete own topic >> Be able to delete your own topics. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Move own topic >> Be able to move your own topics. >>> Burn 20$ worth of ALTT token
- Lock their own topic >> Be able to lock your own topics. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Delete replies to own topics >> Be able to delete replies to your own topics. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Lock own poll >> Be able to lock own polls. >>> Burn 5$ worth of ALTT token
- Delete own poll >> Be able to delete own polls. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Edit own poll >> Be able to edit own polls. >>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token
- Create event on calendar >> Be able to create events on the calendar. >>> Burn 100$ worth of ALTT token
- Ability to set a custom title for themselves>> Be able to choose a custom title for yourself. >>> Burn 5$ worth of ALTT token
- Lock anyone's topic >> Be able to lock anyone's topic. >>> Burn 100$ worth of ALTT token
I am personally of the opinion that some things are excessive, and several things from this offer should certainly be a regular possibility on the forum. Especially the part about deleting your own posts. It simply happens, a wrong post and without the possibility of removal, it already turns into spam.
Yes, I understood that it was due to the manipulation of forum points, but I would certainly try to solve it differently, for example by deducting the same points for each deleted post.
Next, until now I received an email notification for the first reply in a discussion in which I participate, from now on it is only a paid feature?
Also, to have the possibility of locking your topic, most often in the prevention of spam, it is necessary to pay. I'm not sure I understand the point, except that it's somehow discouraging users from opening new discussions, because they can never finish it.
Personally, I don't have a big problem even under the current conditions, but I have the feeling that it is set up incorrectly and too much work is burdened on the moderators. Isn't it easier for me to just send the admins a link to the post that needs to be deleted or the thread that needs to be locked?
Finally, I am certainly not against Altcoinstalk collecting additional funds, but I believe that this may not be the best way because this forum still needs to be strengthened and to achieve that, it is necessary to facilitate its use as much as possible.
note: Still, the most important required feature is not available (mention notification), I hope that one moment when bitmover finishes it, it will not be too expensive ::)
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I am curious about following feature: each account has points > points can be exchanged to ALTT > is it possible to have number of points reduced from account in exchange for new feature or ability?
Otherwise to get a new feature I must go to dex, exchange there, send tokens, make a reply. Whole process look like to get new feature on the forum I 1) enter forum 2) leave forum (to dex) 3) return to forum. Wont it be smart to do everything forum related within the forum, instead of running here and there ?
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Also, to have the possibility of locking your topic, most often in the prevention of spam, it is necessary to pay. I'm not sure I understand the point, except that it's somehow discouraging users from opening new discussions, because they can never finish it.
My understanding with "Lock anyone's topic" is that you can request to lock topics opened by other members. Currently, there is no paywall to lock your own topic and I hope admin doesn't take that away from thread starters.
I also do not see the point. If the topic if of low quality, you can hit report button and it's the moderators job to lock/delete it. If the topic is of good quality but you do not like what's being discussed, it doesn't make sense if you can ask the forum admin/mod to lock it for $100.
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I think the idea to give stuff to others is very interesting
3- Badges to display on others:
A- Just for fun:
>>> Burn 2$ worth of ALTT token
then post below what badge and who should receive it
A community account will announce the badge granting on the chat, with source and destination.
The badge will remain till removed by routine cleaning,
the destination can also choose to remove it by burning 1$ worth of ALTT token, after a minimum 48h.
(https://i.imgur.com/fR9Mtqi.png) (https://i.imgur.com/1JnYlFk.png) (https://i.imgur.com/O1qSdgU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/isKgpFk.png) (https://i.imgur.com/Ms5mLSQ.png) (https://i.imgur.com/WNgSiY3.png)
B- For Gratitude:
- Sending Cheers /Toast
>>> Burn 2$ worth of ALTT token
then post below who should receive it
A community account will announce the badge granting on the chat, with source and destination.
The badge will remain till removed by routine cleaning (will remain a minimum for one week)
(https://i.imgur.com/8C8uMfN.png)
- Appreciation meter
>>> Burn 5$ worth of ALTT token >> for the first star
>>> Burn 10$ worth of ALTT token >> for the second star
>>> Burn 20$ worth of ALTT token >> for the third star
then post below who should receive it
A community account will announce the badge granting on the chat, with source and destination.
The badge will remain till the destination decides to remove it (no charge)
(https://i.imgur.com/hi7FooW.png) (https://i.imgur.com/U4FXZdi.png) (https://i.imgur.com/VtumecT.png)
I miss this kind of incentive in bitcointalk and other forums. I think reddit has something similar.
Those are the best items of the shop imo.
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Moderation will be tedious on the moderators. Nothing is free here, if I should burn a token in order to lock a thread when discussing there is no longer necessary. If I may ask, how to earn this ALTT tokens or exchanges to buy it?
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Maybe I should be partially blamed for giving idea to admin for this new paid feature.
Some time ago I won tokens in one of the forum giveaways and I asked admin if there is a way I can spend this tokens directly in forum.
I think that some of the prices are very high, and I am not going to pay to be able to delete my posts in forum, this should be standard free feature.
Another thing I don't like is posting proof of payment in topic and waiting to be approved.
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just to clarify few points:
1- Everyone earns points by creating topics and less points when replying to topics.
2- These points, and even the karma (if you wish) > can be withdrawn in tokens > i will send you the tokens to your bsc wallet
3- This token is listed on pancakeswap, where we add liquidity, to allow users to sell it ...
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All good so far ...
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However if there is no demand for the token, everytime it is sent, it will be sold, as you can see in the big drops on the chart :
https://dexscreener.com/bsc/0x193572229692bf74c171f834d405b334257a39b1
And if there is no demand no advertising revenue can keep the liquidity enough. Even if all the revenue we get from ads we put for liquidity, the liquidity will be removed, by the token sellers.
Thus the need for creating demand ...
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the features listed are available for some ranks but not others. the reason we made them unavailable is that many users abused these features, or even that these features can affect others, for example:
- Post/topic deletion : allow unlimited points generation, and difficult to detect.
- Topic deletion: affect other users post count, and when it's mega thread even rank drop sometimes.
- Notify: boggled the mail server multiple times, people asking for notification on popular boards, furthermore : many using no longer available emails rendered situation even more drastic.
- Locking own topic : i see it as a bit censorship, i avoid locking topics even when the topics annoys me.
etc ...
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Thus, for the greater good of the community (aka being able to maintain a token with a low volatility), some need be willing to not have the feature they want ... yet.
When you start getting these tokens after enough contributions, you will be then able to burn the needed amount of tokens without even having to buy it from pancakeswap.
PS: will announce token distribution round soon, after rechecking all the details and updating some details.
hope this helps clarify the idea, why we try to burn the token often.
I think i provided a detailed answer, i might not follow this topic for more replies as i have a lot of stuff that i need to do.
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Maybe I should be partially blamed for giving idea to admin for this new paid feature.
Some time ago I won tokens in one of the forum giveaways and I asked admin if there is a way I can spend this tokens directly in forum.
I think that some of the prices are very high, and I am not going to pay to be able to delete my posts in forum, this should be standard free feature.
Another thing I don't like is posting proof of payment in topic and waiting to be approved.
the idea was half baked, but when you suggested it, it was the confirmation i wanted ;)
but don't worry, better have a paid option than no option
and ... at the end, if you check my reply, this is for the best interest of all, because all are earning points that can be withdrawn into tokens.
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at the end, if you check my reply, this is for the best interest of all, because all are earning points that can be withdrawn into tokens.
How is that working exactly?
And don't we have to wait for you or some other moderator to send us those tokens manually?
If that is the case than we can't say this is real withdrawing, but maybe distribution.
Another thing, prices in shop should be only in tokens, not in dollar value.
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at the end, if you check my reply, this is for the best interest of all, because all are earning points that can be withdrawn into tokens.
How is that working exactly?
And don't we have to wait for you or some other moderator to send us those tokens manually?
If that is the case than we can't say this is real withdrawing, but maybe distribution.
Another thing, prices in shop should be only in tokens, not in dollar value.
yes distribution based on points (also in bank branch you say you withdraw even though it is actually distributed by human ), more details and clarifications to be announced soon about tokens (some info already present, but will be clarified).
pricing in tokens will need to be updated all the time due to high volatility , thus better this way, less work for me.
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From what I understand based on admins reply above, all this payment stuffs are all centered at creating utility for ALTT, and also a kind of incentive for users to hold the token, or burn it instead of selling it and draining the liquidity.
As much as I believe this to be good and will also help increase the value of ALTT overtime if everything is done properly, I will still agree with examplens, some of this features we will have to pay for arent supposed to be paid for, most especially in the area of a user's ability to delete or move his or her topic to another/the correct board, this is a common feature that is available on most forums for free, I don't understand why we will have to burn tokens to be able to correct our own mistake which also should help lessen spam on this forum.
Over all, I find the ability for users to pay for some special features on this forum a good thing, as it will help the forum (directly or indirectly) generate funds so as to keep improving the forum and also build more features, services and products, and also marketing as well, but I am suggesting that the admin review the features that are to be paid for, some of the features currently listed are supposed to be basic features that should require no payment to access or be used.
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pricing in tokens will need to be updated all the time due to high volatility , thus better this way, less work for me.
In my opinion this should not be based on fiat values, and you don't want to make a living from ''selling'' this additional features.
Consider this like donation, not like business, and maybe you will have better results than asking $10 for deleting topics or $20 to move topics.
I can do most of this stuff for FREE on bitcointalk or other forums, so I won't pay for them.
Only thing I would consider paying is something related with better rank or custom badges.
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Also, to have the possibility of locking your topic, most often in the prevention of spam, it is necessary to pay. I'm not sure I understand the point, except that it's somehow discouraging users from opening new discussions, because they can never finish it.
I couldn't agree more. To think about that it was thought of as censorship when it should be a common feature. Although i understand the point that it could help the forum's activity of having topics and posts is equal to having more points for you to have those tokens and benefit from these "items" in the shop.
note: Still, the most important required feature is not available (mention notification),
Actually, I have made it already, but I didn't release it yet coz there's no response from the admin, and I guess he is working on something like tagging as he mentioned on the chat.
I hope that one moment when bitmover finishes it, it will not be too expensive
It will be worth at least a Patrons rank/badge :P
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From what I understand based on admins reply above, all this payment stuffs are all centered at creating utility for ALTT, and also a kind of incentive for users to hold the token, or burn it instead of selling it and draining the liquidity.
As much as I believe this to be good and will also help increase the value of ALTT overtime if everything is done properly, I will still agree with examplens, some of this features we will have to pay for arent supposed to be paid for, most especially in the area of a user's ability to delete or move his or her topic to another/the correct board, this is a common feature that is available on most forums for free, I don't understand why we will have to burn tokens to be able to correct our own mistake which also should help lessen spam on this forum.
Over all, I find the ability for users to pay for some special features on this forum a good thing, as it will help the forum (directly or indirectly) generate funds so as to keep improving the forum and also build more features, services and products, and also marketing as well, but I am suggesting that the admin review the features that are to be paid for, some of the features currently listed are supposed to be basic features that should require no payment to access or be used.
all these features would be restricted otherwise, because each and everyone can be abused and have been abused.
even moving the post > you move it from a section open to all to another section that require approval > hence bypass the approval
we have been running this forum since 2017, and if there is a possibility to abuse, some people found it and abused.
other forums might not care, when it is none finance and there is less incentive > people will not abuse
some other forums have big budgets >> can put few mods on payroll to just delete topics that do not follow rules
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We had a discussion about this on the local board. Basically I see it as too complicated, with too many items and too many prices. I would prefer to have 4 or 5 items to pay for and give you access to various features, although I understand that the forum needs funding and one way to find it is this. Although I would hope that in the future, as things go along, the offer will be adapted.
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Guys, let me sum it up.
Every one of the offered features is a feature that we dislike and is a feature that make our job harder.
thus these features are off for the masses on this platform.
we do exceptions, for special ranks, and now newly on a feature by feature activation.
You might like it or not, but that's how it was on this platform since a long time.
I am sure you have valid arguments, but it's not about you! For every descent user we have 10 who are willing to take advantage of the system.
I have been very clear and very transparent.
- delete own post >> abuse points.
- delete topic >> affects ranks and post count
- move topic >> bypass restriction on sections
- change display name >> impersonate others after teleportation XXX not available for purchase
- lock topic >>> censorship
- create custom title >>> annoying
tagging >>> not yet available
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why fiat value >>> the token fluctuates a lot, once we increase the liquidity pool more (gradual process), might switch to token amount
(or maybe sooner, need to think about it)
soon altt will be distributed, and every few month we will distribute, and if there is no incentives, something that you really really want, i am sure 99% will just sell the token , with the first 20% sellers ruining the price for the rest, and token price dumping to sewage
as i said, have been running this forum since 2017, have seen the behaviour of thousands of users. And i don't want this to be duplicated, that's why liquidity is gradual.
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admin, I have a lot of respect for your engagement here, it seems that you take great care of this forum. The essence of this discussion is not exclusively criticism or complaints that we do not want to pay for anything, even as a donation. Just to present some constructive ideas for improvement that would be significant for everyone.
I will repeat, and I see that other members also share my opinion. Things like locking the thread and deleting our own posts should be enabled as basic functions on the forum. I don't know much about SMF customization, but if you managed to implement points (and many other stuff), it certainly seems logical that you can also implement the reverse function, deleting points as a consequence of deleting posts.
I have been very clear and very transparent.
- delete own post >> abuse points.
- lock topic >>> censorship
OK, the platform was set up in 2017, but I wouldn't hesitate to improve it. Especially now when some decisions on BTT directly affected the increase in popularity of this forum.
I think the adaptation thing is very important.
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admin, I have a lot of respect for your engagement here, it seems that you take great care of this forum. The essence of this discussion is not exclusively criticism or complaints that we do not want to pay for anything, even as a donation. Just to present some constructive ideas for improvement that would be significant for everyone.
I will repeat, and I see that other members also share my opinion. Things like locking the thread and deleting our own posts should be enabled as basic functions on the forum. I don't know much about SMF customization, but if you managed to implement points (and many other stuff), it certainly seems logical that you can also implement the reverse function, deleting points as a consequence of deleting posts.
I have been very clear and very transparent.
- delete own post >> abuse points.
- lock topic >>> censorship
OK, the platform was set up in 2017, but I wouldn't hesitate to improve it. Especially now when some decisions on BTT directly affected the increase in popularity of this forum.
I think the adaptation thing is very important.
true points can be deleted, but it becomes complicated
will look into this
now not a priority though, as i have a long list of requests many of which have higher priority.
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We had a discussion about this on the local board. Basically I see it as too complicated, with too many items and too many prices.
It looks like a flea market, you can find anything here, just make sure to get your juicy tokens ready to send ;)
Admin is saying that this stuff is complicating thing, than why on earth would you ever add something like Loki or to lock topics from other people, I don't understand this.
Next few weeks are crucial, so I wont complain so much anymore ???
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We had a discussion about this on the local board. Basically I see it as too complicated, with too many items and too many prices.
It looks like a flea market, you can find anything here, just make sure to get your juicy tokens ready to send ;)
Admin is saying that this stuff is complicating thing, than why on earth would you ever add something like Loki or to lock topics from other people, I don't understand this.
Next few weeks are crucial, so I wont complain so much anymore ???
loki is fun ;D a bit of anarchy is always a good thing ;D
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loki is fun ;D a bit of anarchy is always a good thing ;D
Anarchy would mean that someone can use Loki mod on you and other admins 8)
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loki is fun ;D a bit of anarchy is always a good thing ;D
Anarchy would mean that someone can use Loki mod on you and other admins 8)
haha yeah why not
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Personally, I don't have a big problem even under the current conditions,
I got a link for the Altcoinstalks Shop when there was a public chat and I checked it.
At that moment I did not have a problem with the Altcoinstalks Shop written by the admin.
This Altcoinstalks Shop aims to be a marketing to raise the coins created by the admin, this is for trading token.
For the forum it might be more free because there are parts that are owned by some members who buy it.
Looks like there are donor, monarch, VIP, etc., the feature has its own advantages.
Until this moment I don't mind what the admin has written on the Altcoinstalks Shop and since the first time I was born in this forum I also have an open minded character. ;D
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Given that there is only an ETH payment method, can a BTC address be added for those who prefer that method? That would be more acceptable to me personally, and perhaps to some others who don't have ETH or don't want to pay with forum tokens.
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Given that there is only an ETH payment method, can a BTC address be added for those who prefer that method? That would be more acceptable to me personally, and perhaps to some others who don't have ETH or don't want to pay with forum tokens.
added equivalent in btc also accepted
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2- These points, and even the karma (if you wish) > can be withdrawn in tokens > i will send you the tokens to your bsc wallet
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What happens to the points and karma after a user withdraws it?
For example, I have like 50 karma and some thousands points, so If I wished to withdraw it, will it reset to zero or will the 50 karma and the existing points still show on my profile as it showed before?
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What happens to the points and karma after a user withdraws it?
For example, I have like 50 karma and some thousands points, so If I wished to withdraw it, will it reset to zero or will the 50 karma and the existing points still show on my profile as it showed before?
No, neither the Karma nor the points remain in your profile if you withdraw them previously. Both counters would be set to 0 and you would start over in that direction.
Keep in mind that if the counters did not return to 0 you could multiply your Karma and your points without any effort, which does not make any sense considering the system in which the forum is governed.
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No, neither the Karma nor the points remain in your profile if you withdraw them previously. Both counters would be set to 0 and you would start over in that direction.
Keep in mind that if the counters did not return to 0 you could multiply your Karma and your points without any effort, which does not make any sense considering the system in which the forum is governed.
And how are the tokens calculated or allocated?
For example, you have like 50k in points and 800 in karma! And if you were to withdraw it, how much token can you get from this?
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Given that there is only an ETH payment method, can a BTC address be added for those who prefer that method? That would be more acceptable to me personally, and perhaps to some others who don't have ETH or don't want to pay with forum tokens.
added equivalent in btc also accepted
What about a subscription to Immortals? As far as I can see, the only option offered is payment through PayPal. Should someone contact you if they want to pay in another way or maybe use the coin addresses found at the bottom of the forum (Donations)?
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And how are the tokens calculated or allocated?
For example, you have like 50k in points and 800 in karma! And if you were to withdraw it, how much token can you get from this?
The information available after the last update of the thread (on March 18 of this year) indicates the following: Distribution Details (to be updated on distribution). Which means that before starting the distribution the administrator will provide more details about how the withdrawal of tokens to users was calculated.
More information is available in this thread: Withdraw ALTT & ALTT Distributions (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=163096.0).
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2- These points, and even the karma (if you wish) > can be withdrawn in tokens > i will send you the tokens to your bsc wallet
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What happens to the points and karma after a user withdraws it?
For example, I have like 50 karma and some thousands points, so If I wished to withdraw it, will it reset to zero or will the 50 karma and the existing points still show on my profile as it showed before?
The conversion of karma points to forum tokens should be at least temporarily suspended.
A discussion was recently held in the forum senate about the possible inclusion of karma points in the ranking system. It is still in the process of discussion, and at some point, it will appear open to all forum members.
If this were to be adopted and at some point implemented, karma points would be needed for the rank upgrade, so it should not be possible to trade them.
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2- These points, and even the karma (if you wish) > can be withdrawn in tokens > i will send you the tokens to your bsc wallet
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What happens to the points and karma after a user withdraws it?
For example, I have like 50 karma and some thousands points, so If I wished to withdraw it, will it reset to zero or will the 50 karma and the existing points still show on my profile as it showed before?
The conversion of karma points to forum tokens should be at least temporarily suspended.
A discussion was recently held in the forum senate about the possible inclusion of karma points in the ranking system. It is still in the process of discussion, and at some point, it will appear open to all forum members.
If this were to be adopted and at some point implemented, karma points would be needed for the rank upgrade, so it should not be possible to trade them.
I guess this is the moment that I share the link for this proposal: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0
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I guess this is the moment that I share the link for this proposal: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0
This should be promoted more to get more responses from forum users. I already suggested that the admin might add to the news section instead of Vote for Senators.
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I guess this is the moment that I share the link for this proposal: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0
This should be promoted more to get more responses from forum users. I already suggested that the admin might add to the news section instead of Vote for Senators.
Technically, it's not news though, it's just a proposal for now. Under the pre-title of "Latest proposal" would make more sense though I think. But this is just semantics.
No doubt admin doesn't want to "panic" users by suggesting that karma requirements could be implemented etc (I know him too well). The "if I were President" line is that I would have added it already (but that's not my call to make anymore, nor do I want it to be). It might therefore be better to ask Freemind to do this, as someone with the executive power to update. I'm not suggesting skirting admin's authority here, only testing the boundaries, as he can always change/remove if disagrees etc. I see it as the same as when I update his topics with new links and info; he can obviously undo if disagrees with the updates etc, and has done so before even if rarely (which doesn't discourage me either).
Otherwise maybe the poll can just play out until the end of the month as it is. Even if only has twice as many votes by then, it'd reflect the active users most engaged with the forum itself (ie those who post in forum related sections). The only real issue so far is representation. At present, it reflects the users most actively engaged in the community, not the wider community as a whole. By adding a link to the top right corner, as you suggested, the poll would at least better represent all active users of the forum as a whole. Ideally we'd have a sample poll of 50-100 of the most active users, even if that sound optimistic, and better visibility is the only way this would be achieved. Aside from translations to others languages (specifially Russian).
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Technically, it's not news though, it's just a proposal for now. Under the pre-title of "Latest proposal" would make more sense though I think. But this is just semantics.
Here, we always deal with technical matters rather than substance. The potential change of the ranking system on the forum is news. As far as I have noticed, the admin did not really enthusiastically accept the karma-rank proposal, precisely because of this the discussion should be highlighted in order to get the opinion of as many members as possible.
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Technically, it's not news though, it's just a proposal for now. Under the pre-title of "Latest proposal" would make more sense though I think. But this is just semantics.
Here, we always deal with technical matters rather than substance.
This is mainly just me I think, but in fairness, the technicals in this case is actually quite relevant to the substance ;)
The potential change of the ranking system on the forum is news.
Just because some washed up president made a proposal, I don't think you can call this news. News would be like: "New karma requirements effective from 03/24".
As far as I have noticed, the admin did not really enthusiastically accept the karma-rank proposal, precisely because of this the discussion should be highlighted in order to get the opinion of as many members as possible.
"not really enthusiastically" is certainly a polite way to put it, I commend you on your senator-like use of language ;D
But sure, I'm not disagreeing with you here, instead I concur overall. There definitely should be more visibility to the topic precisely because admin is fundamentally opposed to the proposal, in it's majority, and because at present it's not failing miserably from the outset. Instead it seems to be holding up well to scrutiny with support, so it'd be worth testing if that support is more broadly held by the wider community, rather than those most engaged with the forum. Our president is otherwise requesting that admin grant some further visibility as you requested, but whether that happens or not is another story.
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Over all, I find the ability for users to pay for some special features on this forum a good thing, as it will help the forum (directly or indirectly) generate funds so as to keep improving the forum and also build more features, services and products, and also marketing as well, but I am suggesting that the admin review the features that are to be paid for, some of the features currently listed are supposed to be basic features that should require no payment to access or be used.
I agree with this view. I came to this agreement after reading about the new shop.
At first I thought the shop was about buying and selling general goods and services like a laptop ot something else but when I found out it is just for "badges""rankings"and features on the forum I was disappointed.
Personally I'm not here on the forum to grow my profile necessarily and badges dont motivate me but I do see the merit of the shop in generating interest and revenue because most people are highly motivated by rank and badges.
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At first I thought the shop was about buying and selling general goods and services like a laptop ot something else but when I found out it is just for "badges""rankings"and features on the forum I was disappointed.
Why would you ever think about buying laptop or other physical items from this and any other forum? :o
It's not unusual to see forums selling advertising space and special ranking, we have that in Bitcointalk forum for a while and it worked great.
What I dont like here is having fixed dollar value instead of fixed token value, and price can easily be manipulated.