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Thurman after a very long 23 month lay off will challenge Tim Tszyu for the WBO 154 lb title in Las Vegas on March 30 Thurman is an underdog for obvious reasons because he's facing a tough guy from Australia who's just coming out of a impressive win against a top challenger Harrison.
Thurman should have taken a tune fight first before facing a tough opponent like Tszyu, this is a risky fight for him, he is still good but it's not easy to shake off those 23 months of lay off, he needs to rush his conditioning and probably take a good conditioning coach while training.
Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman for the WBO 154 lb title in Las Vegas on March 30 (https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/1/24/24050037/tim-tszyu-vs-keith-thurman-pbc-first-amazon-prime-ppv-boxing-news-2024)
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Finally, after almost two years of rest, Keith Thurman finally got a fight but i don't think this will be an easy task for him as Tim Tsyu is a very live opponent.
Voted for Tim to win by decision as ring rust might be a factor for Thurman in this fight. I'm just curious on why Thurman opted to fight Tim directly without having a tune-up fight.
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Finally, after almost two years of rest, Keith Thurman finally got a fight but i don't think this will be an easy task for him as Tim Tsyu is a very live opponent.
Voted for Tim to win by decision as ring rust might be a factor for Thurman in this fight. I'm just curious on why Thurman opted to fight Tim directly without having a tune-up fight.
Thurman has so much belief in himself that he takes this fight without taking a tune-up fight first, Tszyu is not an easy fight it's a high risk for Thurman, and depending on how he trained to take out that ring rust, Tszyu could knock him out he still in a great condition coming fresh from a very successful defeat against Harrison.
Thurman may have made the wrong decision or he thinks that he has good conditioning to be in his top form on the day of the fight, on Tszyu's part he should not take Thurman for granted because of the long layoff, Thurman is still dangerous until we see his ring rust.
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Thurman may have made the wrong decision or he thinks that he has good conditioning to be in his top form on the day of the fight, on Tszyu's part he should not take Thurman for granted because of the long layoff, Thurman is still dangerous until we see his ring rust.
Wrong decision indeed and I think this is his first fight at the 154 lbs division (correct me if I'm wrong) without going into a tune-up fight. On the other hand, this might be a make-or-break fight for Thurman as a win could bring him into the limelight while a loss could end his career as he is now 30+.
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Thurman may have made the wrong decision or he thinks that he has good conditioning to be in his top form on the day of the fight, on Tszyu's part he should not take Thurman for granted because of the long layoff, Thurman is still dangerous until we see his ring rust.
Wrong decision indeed and I think this is his first fight at the 154 lbs division (correct me if I'm wrong) without going into a tune-up fight. On the other hand, this might be a make-or-break fight for Thurman as a win could bring him into the limelight while a loss could end his career as he is now 30+.
Keith Thurman is considered an A-side in this bout
It’s also interesting to note that the 35-year-old Thurman is being positioned as the promotional A-side for the bout, despite being the title challenger and certainly not the rising star in the matchup.
Maybe because of what he has reached in the past like having beaten champions like Porter, Garcia, and Lopez and having fought future hall of famer Manny Pacquiao, but this a different scenario and there are questions about his conditioning Thurman maybe an A side here but Tszyu is the more well-conditioned fighter, I would have to see their face off and their public training for me to judge if he has what it takes to challenge Tszyu and go toe to toe.
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Thurman may have made the wrong decision or he thinks that he has good conditioning to be in his top form on the day of the fight, on Tszyu's part he should not take Thurman for granted because of the long layoff, Thurman is still dangerous until we see his ring rust.
Wrong decision indeed and I think this is his first fight at the 154 lbs division (correct me if I'm wrong) without going into a tune-up fight. On the other hand, this might be a make-or-break fight for Thurman as a win could bring him into the limelight while a loss could end his career as he is now 30+.
Keith Thurman is considered an A-side in this bout
It’s also interesting to note that the 35-year-old Thurman is being positioned as the promotional A-side for the bout, despite being the title challenger and certainly not the rising star in the matchup.
Maybe because of what he has reached in the past like having beaten champions like Porter, Garcia, and Lopez and having fought future hall of famer Manny Pacquiao, but this a different scenario and there are questions about his conditioning Thurman maybe an A side here but Tszyu is the more well-conditioned fighter, I would have to see their face off and their public training for me to judge if he has what it takes to challenge Tszyu and go toe to toe.
I'm a bit intrigue on why he was the A-side of this fight considering that he has not fought in almost two years and the disparity or the age gap is a bit high. He is 35 years old now, which in boxing is considered old, not unless your is Manny Pacquaio hehe while Tim is just 29 years old, he is on his peak and he is the one being sold on this fight i think.
Thurman though has fought quality opponents but that would not save him since he is old now as far as boxing is concern.
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I'm a bit intrigue on why he was the A-side of this fight considering that he has not fought in almost two years and the disparity or the age gap is a bit high. He is 35 years old now, which in boxing is considered old, not unless your is Manny Pacquaio hehe while Tim is just 29 years old, he is on his peak and he is the one being sold on this fight i think.
Thurman though has fought quality opponents but that would not save him since he is old now as far as boxing is concern.
But we bettors know who is the real favorite to win in the fight, it's so easy to analyze, Tszyu is coming on a 3-fight victory against three former champions and this happened in one year, while Thurman's last fight was two years ago, and Tszyu is a fresh and a highly motivated guy, I don't think any kind of insult Thurman throws against Tszyu will bother him, he don;t want dramas he just want to fight.
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I'm a bit intrigue on why he was the A-side of this fight considering that he has not fought in almost two years and the disparity or the age gap is a bit high. He is 35 years old now, which in boxing is considered old, not unless your is Manny Pacquaio hehe while Tim is just 29 years old, he is on his peak and he is the one being sold on this fight i think.
Thurman though has fought quality opponents but that would not save him since he is old now as far as boxing is concern.
But we bettors know who is the real favorite to win in the fight, it's so easy to analyze, Tszyu is coming on a 3-fight victory against three former champions and this happened in one year, while Thurman's last fight was two years ago, and Tszyu is a fresh and a highly motivated guy, I don't think any kind of insult Thurman throws against Tszyu will bother him, he don;t want dramas he just want to fight.
Yeah, ring rust will be a factor on this fight, Thurman has not fought for more than two years now as his fight with Barrios was in February 2022 while Tim Tsyu was very active last year and we all know that Tim is very motivated on this fight as a win would probably land him a fight with Terrence Crawford which is his ultimate goal in this division.
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I'm a bit intrigue on why he was the A-side of this fight considering that he has not fought in almost two years and the disparity or the age gap is a bit high. He is 35 years old now, which in boxing is considered old, not unless your is Manny Pacquaio hehe while Tim is just 29 years old, he is on his peak and he is the one being sold on this fight i think.
Thurman though has fought quality opponents but that would not save him since he is old now as far as boxing is concern.
But we bettors know who is the real favorite to win in the fight, it's so easy to analyze, Tszyu is coming on a 3-fight victory against three former champions and this happened in one year, while Thurman's last fight was two years ago, and Tszyu is a fresh and a highly motivated guy, I don't think any kind of insult Thurman throws against Tszyu will bother him, he don;t want dramas he just want to fight.
Yeah, ring rust will be a factor on this fight, Thurman has not fought for more than two years now as his fight with Barrios was in February 2022 while Tim Tsyu was very active last year and we all know that Tim is very motivated on this fight as a win would probably land him a fight with Terrence Crawford which is his ultimate goal in this division.
That's what everybody is saying, normally if you're coming from a long hiatus you will first go to tune up fight for the boxing community and assess if you still have it, honestly we are at a loss if this is the same Thurman that fought Danny Garcia or Mario Barrios, a long vacation will always have a bad impact on boxers, that's the experienced of majority of boxers coming from the a long vacation and I don't see Thurman as an exception.
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I'm a bit intrigue on why he was the A-side of this fight considering that he has not fought in almost two years and the disparity or the age gap is a bit high. He is 35 years old now, which in boxing is considered old, not unless your is Manny Pacquaio hehe while Tim is just 29 years old, he is on his peak and he is the one being sold on this fight i think.
Thurman though has fought quality opponents but that would not save him since he is old now as far as boxing is concern.
But we bettors know who is the real favorite to win in the fight, it's so easy to analyze, Tszyu is coming on a 3-fight victory against three former champions and this happened in one year, while Thurman's last fight was two years ago, and Tszyu is a fresh and a highly motivated guy, I don't think any kind of insult Thurman throws against Tszyu will bother him, he don;t want dramas he just want to fight.
Yeah, ring rust will be a factor on this fight, Thurman has not fought for more than two years now as his fight with Barrios was in February 2022 while Tim Tsyu was very active last year and we all know that Tim is very motivated on this fight as a win would probably land him a fight with Terrence Crawford which is his ultimate goal in this division.
That's what everybody is saying, normally if you're coming from a long hiatus you will first go to tune up fight for the boxing community and assess if you still have it, honestly we are at a loss if this is the same Thurman that fought Danny Garcia or Mario Barrios, a long vacation will always have a bad impact on boxers, that's the experienced of majority of boxers coming from the a long vacation and I don't see Thurman as an exception.
Maybe Keith Thurman realizes that he is not young anymore so he needs to fight this one without going through a tune-up. For me, he is not after for the belt anymore, he is in for the money as winning this one is a slim possibility considering all the factors going into this fight.
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Maybe Keith Thurman realizes that he is not young anymore so he needs to fight this one without going through a tune-up. For me, he is not after for the belt anymore, he is in for the money as winning this one is a slim possibility considering all the factors going into this fight.
Tszyu should not take Thurman lightly just because he's fighting a boxer who has a long hiatus don't he ever think about that, Thurman also had a long vacation when he fought Barrios for more than two years of vacation and yet he beat Barrios decisively if Thurman can show the same performance like he did against Barrios and Tszyu underestimate him, Tim will be in big trouble.
Some boxers can shrug off ring rust and Thurman is one of them.
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Maybe Keith Thurman realizes that he is not young anymore so he needs to fight this one without going through a tune-up. For me, he is not after for the belt anymore, he is in for the money as winning this one is a slim possibility considering all the factors going into this fight.
Tszyu should not take Thurman lightly just because he's fighting a boxer who has a long hiatus don't he ever think about that, Thurman also had a long vacation when he fought Barrios for more than two years of vacation and yet he beat Barrios decisively if Thurman can show the same performance like he did against Barrios and Tszyu underestimate him, Tim will be in big trouble.
Some boxers can shrug off ring rust and Thurman is one of them.
Punchers chance for Thurman here. I think he still possesses that power, it's just a matter on how he can execute it against a young Tim. Also age could play a big factor as Thurman has been inactive and his last fight he doesn't look good at all.
And odds says that he is a huge underdog. So it's either it can motivate Thurman here and let his hands go and proved that he is still a good fighter even after that devastating lost to Manny that put him in hiatus before the Barrios comeback fight, or he is really done in boxing and that he is doing this just for the money.
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And odds says that he is a huge underdog. So it's either it can motivate Thurman here and let his hands go and proved that he is still a good fighter even after that devastating lost to Manny that put him in hiatus before the Barrios comeback fight, or he is really done in boxing and that he is doing this just for the money.
I hope that would be the case, being the underdog going into this fight would motivate him more as to prove the boxing community that he still has it to defeat champions like Tim Tszyu but like what others have said that the long lay-off is very critical factor for this fight so with that, fans of Thurman would just hope that a lucky punch would land and Koed Tim.
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And odds says that he is a huge underdog. So it's either it can motivate Thurman here and let his hands go and proved that he is still a good fighter even after that devastating lost to Manny that put him in hiatus before the Barrios comeback fight, or he is really done in boxing and that he is doing this just for the money.
I hope that would be the case, being the underdog going into this fight would motivate him more as to prove the boxing community that he still has it to defeat champions like Tim Tszyu but like what others have said that the long lay-off is very critical factor for this fight so with that, fans of Thurman would just hope that a lucky punch would land and Koed Tim.
I don't know, but for me it seems that Thurman mind is no longer in boxing. He had quit when he lost that fight to Manny. It might have taken a toll on him after that and that's why he is not very active, have fights against Barrios but it looks like a past prime Thurman already.
Well for those who love to go to the underdog it could be a good bet for Thurman. But Tim is very young and hungry and wanted not just to become interim champion as his target is Charlo. So he needs to get past Thurman first.
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And odds says that he is a huge underdog. So it's either it can motivate Thurman here and let his hands go and proved that he is still a good fighter even after that devastating lost to Manny that put him in hiatus before the Barrios comeback fight, or he is really done in boxing and that he is doing this just for the money.
I hope that would be the case, being the underdog going into this fight would motivate him more as to prove the boxing community that he still has it to defeat champions like Tim Tszyu but like what others have said that the long lay-off is very critical factor for this fight so with that, fans of Thurman would just hope that a lucky punch would land and Koed Tim.
I don't know, but for me it seems that Thurman mind is no longer in boxing. He had quit when he lost that fight to Manny. It might have taken a toll on him after that and that's why he is not very active, have fights against Barrios but it looks like a past prime Thurman already.
Well for those who love to go to the underdog it could be a good bet for Thurman. But Tim is very young and hungry and wanted not just to become interim champion as his target is Charlo. So he needs to get past Thurman first.
Seems like the Pacman defeat was the turning point of Thurman's career because he is not the same beast after that defeat plus those injury that he claimed that sidelined him for a long time and seems to me that he has bad management of his career because they are having difficulty in securing a fight with anyone.
I have read that after this fight, Tim would like to fight Crawford which is a tough one and don't if Crawford will take the bait.
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And odds says that he is a huge underdog. So it's either it can motivate Thurman here and let his hands go and proved that he is still a good fighter even after that devastating lost to Manny that put him in hiatus before the Barrios comeback fight, or he is really done in boxing and that he is doing this just for the money.
I hope that would be the case, being the underdog going into this fight would motivate him more as to prove the boxing community that he still has it to defeat champions like Tim Tszyu but like what others have said that the long lay-off is very critical factor for this fight so with that, fans of Thurman would just hope that a lucky punch would land and Koed Tim.
I don't know, but for me it seems that Thurman mind is no longer in boxing. He had quit when he lost that fight to Manny. It might have taken a toll on him after that and that's why he is not very active, have fights against Barrios but it looks like a past prime Thurman already.
Well for those who love to go to the underdog it could be a good bet for Thurman. But Tim is very young and hungry and wanted not just to become interim champion as his target is Charlo. So he needs to get past Thurman first.
Seems like the Pacman defeat was the turning point of Thurman's career because he is not the same beast after that defeat plus those injury that he claimed that sidelined him for a long time and seems to me that he has bad management of his career because they are having difficulty in securing a fight with anyone.
I have read that after this fight, Tim would like to fight Crawford which is a tough one and don't if Crawford will take the bait.
Yeah, it was not the first time that we have seen Pacman ruined someone's career. Hatton was one, Antonio Margarito physically was not the same anymore, damage eye.
As for Thurman looking for either Crawford or Thurman, it's all for the money for him right now. He might want to have one big fight before he retires. I think he will fight one more even if he losses to Tim here.
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As for Thurman looking for either Crawford or Thurman, it's all for the money for him right now. He might want to have one big fight before he retires. I think he will fight one more even if he losses to Tim here.
Thurman is such a unique guy it seems he is not taking his boxing career seriously, a boxer normally fights two or three times a year but in Thurman's case he prefers to take a long vacation before fighting.
He's lucky that promoters still trust him prior to the Mario Barrios fight he has a 2 year vacation and now here he is fighting Tszyu for a title after over two years, some boxers are not given this luxury to fight after a long vacation.
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As for Thurman looking for either Crawford or Thurman, it's all for the money for him right now. He might want to have one big fight before he retires. I think he will fight one more even if he losses to Tim here.
Thurman is such a unique guy it seems he is not taking his boxing career seriously, a boxer normally fights two or three times a year but in Thurman's case he prefers to take a long vacation before fighting.
He's lucky that promoters still trust him prior to the Mario Barrios fight he has a 2 year vacation and now here he is fighting Tszyu for a title after over two years, some boxers are not given this luxury to fight after a long vacation.
I wouldn't say that he is unique though, it's more of Thurman doesn't have that motivation to box and he chooses an easy money to just be a boxing analyst. And it's true, he was given that opportunity to fight Mario Barrios but he doesn't look sharp as we thought it could be an easy one for him.
Now he is a huge underdog against the Australian. Just funny though how Thurman's mouth run just to promote this fight. But you can see that he really developed that persona already, confident in front of the mic and I think he did good being a boxing analyst and cover some fights on networks.
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As for Thurman looking for either Crawford or Thurman, it's all for the money for him right now. He might want to have one big fight before he retires. I think he will fight one more even if he losses to Tim here.
Thurman is such a unique guy it seems he is not taking his boxing career seriously, a boxer normally fights two or three times a year but in Thurman's case he prefers to take a long vacation before fighting.
He's lucky that promoters still trust him prior to the Mario Barrios fight he has a 2 year vacation and now here he is fighting Tszyu for a title after over two years, some boxers are not given this luxury to fight after a long vacation.
Lol, you are right there mate, Thurman is such a lucky boxer and like what you have said, he is fortunate that promoters still has the trust in him even though he has a long lay-off but on the other hand, he is used by Tim as a stepping stone for a bigger fight if Tim will this one as Thurman, though did not fight for more than two years is still a popular name to beat.
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Breaking news:
Thurman is injured and won't be fighting Tim Tszyu, instead Tim will be fighting Sebastian Fundora on March 30 for the unified WBC and WBO 154 title belt.
Seems like Thurman got no luck in boxing on this stage of his career, this another setback can be lethal to his career, for me it's better for him to hang the his gloves for good.
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Breaking news:
Thurman is injured and won't be fighting Tim Tszyu, instead Tim will be fighting Sebastian Fundora on March 30 for the unified WBC and WBO 154 title belt.
Seems like Thurman got no luck in boxing on this stage of his career, this another setback can be lethal to his career, for me it's better for him to hang the his gloves for good.
thurman rarely fight and this last one he turned back. this guys been inactive for awhile so i can understand he chicken out.
base on what i read in the other thread this man is huge and with long reach advantage.
could this be Tim's fall because of Fundora? both of them will have few days to train so this is still a luck base match. iff i have to bet on this, i might just go or Fundora, this man have been winning in 154 in almost all his fights.
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Breaking news:
Thurman is injured and won't be fighting Tim Tszyu, instead Tim will be fighting Sebastian Fundora on March 30 for the unified WBC and WBO 154 title belt.
Seems like Thurman got no luck in boxing on this stage of his career, this another setback can be lethal to his career, for me it's better for him to hang the his gloves for good.
Right, as we heard before, there were news that Thurman would be fighting Crawford or even Spence at 154 lbs and now that potential fight is gone. Thurman seems to be very brittle as his age, maybe it's time for him to retire as he is not the same after the Manny Pacquiao lost and boxing is no longer is priority the way I see it.
And it's Fundora who is relegated to fight for the belt. Talk about chances, we've known him to be the towering fighter at 6'5 so let's see if he can used that physical he has to bet Tim. Fundora is a huge underdog, almost 4:1 as per Stake.
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Breaking news:
Thurman is injured and won't be fighting Tim Tszyu, instead Tim will be fighting Sebastian Fundora on March 30 for the unified WBC and WBO 154 title belt.
Seems like Thurman got no luck in boxing on this stage of his career, this another setback can be lethal to his career, for me it's better for him to hang the his gloves for good.
thurman rarely fight and this last one he turned back. this guys been inactive for awhile so i can understand he chicken out.
base on what i read in the other thread this man is huge and with long reach advantage.
could this be Tim's fall because of Fundora? both of them will have few days to train so this is still a luck base match. iff i have to bet on this, i might just go or Fundora, this man have been winning in 154 in almost all his fights.
Tim Tszyu is the huge favorite to win this fight while Sebastian Fundora is the one who has a little time to prepare for this fight, i mean to mentally prepare against Tim Tszyu. Though Fundora is towering at 6 foot 5, he is very vulnirable to Tim's power shots.
For the info, Fundora lost his last fight against Brian Mendoza via knockout, so i expect the same outcome come March 30.
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Breaking news:
Thurman is injured and won't be fighting Tim Tszyu, instead Tim will be fighting Sebastian Fundora on March 30 for the unified WBC and WBO 154 title belt.
Seems like Thurman got no luck in boxing on this stage of his career, this another setback can be lethal to his career, for me it's better for him to hang the his gloves for good.
thurman rarely fight and this last one he turned back. this guys been inactive for awhile so i can understand he chicken out.
base on what i read in the other thread this man is huge and with long reach advantage.
could this be Tim's fall because of Fundora? both of them will have few days to train so this is still a luck base match. iff i have to bet on this, i might just go or Fundora, this man have been winning in 154 in almost all his fights.
Tim Tszyu is the huge favorite to win this fight while Sebastian Fundora is the one who has a little time to prepare for this fight, i mean to mentally prepare against Tim Tszyu. Though Fundora is towering at 6 foot 5, he is very vulnirable to Tim's power shots.
For the info, Fundora lost his last fight against Brian Mendoza via knockout, so i expect the same outcome come March 30.
Correction, Fundora will be on the undercard of the original fight, Fundora is facing Serhii Bohachukmost for the vacant vacant WBC super welterweight title. But as reported, he will be in the main card now, facing Tim Tszyu and also mentioned that it could be a unification fight for the WBO and WBC title. So the winner will end up being a champion in two of those body, so that could be enough motivation for both to give their best on this fight. Tim though is still a huge favorite to win this fight and so I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Brian Mendoza like knockout against Fundora as I think Tim has more power than Mendoza.
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Actually the WBO between Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman,of 154 ib title in Las Vegas on March 30 will be a great fight and I'm excited fight, I don't think Thurman is able to stand Tszyu up to rounds 7, because it has taken up to 2 years fight.
For me it will be a great defeat for Thurman, just like the way Francis Ngannou receive a great defeat from Anthony Joshua.
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Actually the WBO between Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman,of 154 ib title in Las Vegas on March 30 will be a great fight and I'm excited fight, I don't think Thurman is able to stand Tszyu up to rounds 7, because it has taken up to 2 years fight.
For me it will be a great defeat for Thurman, just like the way Francis Ngannou receive a great defeat from Anthony Joshua.
Have you read the whole thread though? because Thurman vs Tszyu is not going to happen as Thurman has pulled out from the fight because of a reported injury. So hopefully you should learn your lessons here to read the topic first before your reply as this looks like a spam.
Right, I agree with what @bisdak40, although Fundora is tall, he might not have the tools because Tim is really on his prime and developed that power than can knockout everyone even if Fundora is very tall at 6'5.
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Correction, Fundora will be on the undercard of the original fight, Fundora is facing Serhii Bohachukmost for the vacant vacant WBC super welterweight title. But as reported, he will be in the main card now, facing Tim Tszyu and also mentioned that it could be a unification fight for the WBO and WBC title. So the winner will end up being a champion in two of those body, so that could be enough motivation for both to give their best on this fight. Tim though is still a huge favorite to win this fight and so I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Brian Mendoza like knockout against Fundora as I think Tim has more power than Mendoza.
Thanks for the information mate, now i know why they dubbed this fight as the fight for the unified WBC and WBO world title fight. Though Fundora has trained for another opponent but i doubt he will beat the prime Tim Tszyu. This is a good chance for Tim if he win this fight, he will automatically have two belts, more option ahead for his career.
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Correction, Fundora will be on the undercard of the original fight, Fundora is facing Serhii Bohachukmost for the vacant vacant WBC super welterweight title. But as reported, he will be in the main card now, facing Tim Tszyu and also mentioned that it could be a unification fight for the WBO and WBC title. So the winner will end up being a champion in two of those body, so that could be enough motivation for both to give their best on this fight. Tim though is still a huge favorite to win this fight and so I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Brian Mendoza like knockout against Fundora as I think Tim has more power than Mendoza.
Thanks for the information mate, now i know why they dubbed this fight as the fight for the unified WBC and WBO world title fight. Though Fundora has trained for another opponent but i doubt he will beat the prime Tim Tszyu. This is a good chance for Tim if he win this fight, he will automatically have two belts, more option ahead for his career.
It's a upgrade for Fundora, but if there is a change of boxers that you are going to face, it might be a different outcome. Just like in the Spence vs Pacquaio fight. Pacman is originally set to fight Spence but at the last minute, Spence was not allowed to fight because of his eye injury and so Ugas replaced him.
Manny didn't want to cancel it and so he has the choice to proceed with no game plan at all with Ugas. And with that, Pacman lose the fight because of not training for Ugas. Not saying that Tim will be defeated, but they really need to shift their focus right away from Thurman to Fundora.