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Title: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 03, 2024, 09:42:08 PM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/03/vHHha.png)

And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.

So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Obari on February 03, 2024, 10:04:31 PM
This is not possible at all,changing your favourite team to another team,it's like falling in love with two different Women,but this one is quite different,I wonder how many can be so faithful to a particular club without switching to another when their team lose.So many times I have tried changing my team to another club who is doing well,but I find out that it so impossible to do that.I am a Liverpool fan,and I will remain a Red till death do us path.This is a club I loved from childhood,and till date,I'm still in love with my club.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: sampoerna on February 03, 2024, 10:44:51 PM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/03/vHHha.png)
IMO, For someone who is already a fanatical fan of a football club, I think it is very difficult to change. And it would even be like betraying his old club that he idolized. Especially if we have joined a club, it will be much harder to change.

Unless you're not a fanatical fan and really idolize the club because you're one of the players you really idolize, then this could change. However, as long as there are no problems, football club fans are usually very fanatical and stick to what they like.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: DaNNy001 on February 03, 2024, 11:03:20 PM
This is not possible at all,changing your favourite team to another team,it's like falling in love with two different Women,but this one is quite different,I wonder how many can be so faithful to a particular club without switching to another when their team lose.So many times I have tried changing my team to another club who is doing well,but I find out that it so impossible to do that.I am a Liverpool fan,and I will remain a Red till death do us path.This is a club I loved from childhood,and till date,I'm still in love with my club.
Well that's your own take on this, for me I believe it's very possible to change your club to another especially when you have really fallen out of interest for that team. I know of a friend who was freakishly in love with Manchester united and the reason being was that he loved their star player as of then but  the moment Ronaldo left that club, his interest for the club started depreciated and it became worse when the clubs performance also reduces and that was what sealed his deal.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 04, 2024, 08:27:05 AM
To me there are two things involves why because he made this statement on a neutral ground let say if that he had to stake between two team and he knew that his club will lose the game there's no way he would go give winning to his team or club knowing that he stake either huge amount, he wouldn't give his favorite club winning if he stakes money.
Lemme use you as an example, even when you were an Arsenal fans while betting have you given them winning against the club they are to play with knowing too well that the club would beat them?

No you can't because you need money and you gamble to earn money but since the club itself won't be paying you for just becoming their fan out there so you would definitely bet against them at this point you are leaving your club and I didn't agree to what he is say maybe to him that is the way he finds it. Let me shock you, I don't have a favorite club why because I don't want a heart attack so I just decided to be neutral on every club because what they earn, receive doesn't indirectly or directly reflect to me as a fan of that club or team.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Zed0X on February 04, 2024, 09:18:14 AM
You can be objective and become a critic but there will always be a soft spot for your favorite team. You can also acknowledge that other teams are better than the club you support but that doesn't change the fact that they are still your favorite. I remember watching a video of a person calling for the sacking of Arteta last season because they had a bad results early. I consider that person a passionate Arsenal fan.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: $crypto$ on February 04, 2024, 01:30:44 PM
For people who really love the football team, it is impossible to change the favorite football team. Because I also feel it myself, even though maybe the team we support is in a slump, we will remain loyal, yes even though there is a sense of disappointment too.

If there are people who call themselves a fan of one of the teams and easily change the favorite team, then I can say that it is not a person who really loves that team. Especially if the team is in a bad state, they even blaspheme it. Unless they criticize, I think it's a very natural thing.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 05, 2024, 04:36:51 AM
Well, seeing as you are an Arsenal fan, I congratulate you on today's 3-1 win over Liverpool. What you're saying is true, that someone can change their favorite soccer team, well yes and no, why? Personally, my favorite team has always been Madrid, but I think that under no circumstances is Barcelona, unless my son ends up playing there, but he doesn't like it either, so I think it's not possible, I don't like it. I see him dressed as a culé and supporting a team like that, but I don't see that side, maybe because of tastes in other teams, yes, because for example I used to love how they did things in the MU, when Tevez, CR7, was there, Rooney, but now thinking about what they won doesn't give me the most emcoin, and that has a name, erik ten hag, thanks to that technique I completely hated the MU.

And since they treated CR7 so badly, who is my favorite player, they even got the idea, they can't treat a legend like that who was there long before any other player.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: DragonF on February 06, 2024, 01:17:00 AM
A diehard football fan will always stick to his club no matter the performance of the club. It is only a plastic fan who changes football clubs. I plastic fan is a person who is always in the winning team. He doesn`t have a favorite football team. His loyalty depends on the performance of the team. It is only such a fan that can easily change a football club.

In my opinion, it is impossible to change a football club because of the genuine love for the club. Remember as a fan you have no benefit accrue to you for supporting the football club and so your loyalty is propelled by your genuine love for the club. But this can be different if the loyalty is not for the club but for a player. Sometimes people support a club because of a particular player and if this is the case, when such a player changes football club, fan loyalty also changes because his love is not for the club but for the player.

I have a friend who was a Manchester United fan when Christiano Ronaldo was still in the club but then switched loyalty and started supporting Real Madrid when Ronaldo moved to the club. I also have a friend who lost interest in Barcelona when Lionel Messi left the club.

So, the possibility or impossibility depends on the reason for supporting the club.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 06, 2024, 10:19:03 PM
This is so true. When you are a true fan of a club, you hardly switch to another club, no matter how badly your club performs.

This is one of the habits, of a diehard fan of a club exhibit. You find them sticking to a club, and not letting go,  because of the love they have developed for the club they support.

A diehard fan of a club is always there, through the ups and downs of the club and they're the ones who feel bad and murmur when the club they support is not in good shape(performance). But in the end, they are not to let go because they believe, their club will bounce back someday
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 09, 2024, 01:56:15 PM
This is interesting. After reading this post, I realised that I have been an arsenal fan for quite a long time since my childhood. I think this postulation is correct. Many years have come and gone me being an arsenal fan. I have gone passed my  primary, secondary and university education and I still remain an Arsenal fan till this moment irrespective of their lapses in games and others activities they get involved in, I still remain their fan  cheering them when ever they have game going on. I was also wondering the mystery behind the love behind football  clubs. Possibly, it is just nature and the love for football exercise one has been able to nurture for quite a long time as it relates to football games and choose a particular club based on their football styles and pattern they have been on for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: ajiz138 on February 09, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
This is so true. When you are a true fan of a club, you hardly switch to another club, no matter how badly your club performs.

This is one of the habits, of a diehard fan of a club exhibit. You find them sticking to a club, and not letting go,  because of the love they have developed for the club they support.

A diehard fan of a club is always there, through the ups and downs of the club and they're the ones who feel bad and murmur when the club they support is not in good shape(performance). But in the end, they are not to let go because they believe, their club will bounce back someday
I remember when my team was in a bad situation, I criticized, but it was all for the good of the team I supported too. Even when my favorite team was doing well, I would occasionally criticize them, even though my voice might not be heard, but it was my concern.

No matter how bad the team looks, I will remain loyal, that's what loyalty is all about. For supporters, we may have heard these words a lot, "don't just be there when they are doing well, but we must still support when they are doing badly". That's what a true supporter is.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: DragonF on February 09, 2024, 04:08:46 PM
I remember when my team was in a bad situation, I criticized, but it was all for the good of the team I supported too. Even when my favorite team was doing well, I would occasionally criticize them, even though my voice might not be heard, but it was my concern.

No matter how bad the team looks, I will remain loyal, that's what loyalty is all about. For supporters, we may have heard these words a lot, "don't just be there when they are doing well, but we must still support when they are doing badly". That's what a true supporter is.

It is normal to criticize a team you support and criticisms doesn`t mean you changed or developed hatred for your favourite football club. Generally, constructive criticisms is geared towards improvement and when we criticize our favourite team it is because we wish them to do better. That is passion. When your favourite team is winning it brings joy in the mind of fans and vice versa.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Sim_card on February 09, 2024, 04:57:34 PM
Down here in my region, I have seen people that have switched over to other clubs due to no love for their clubs anymore. Why is it like that, there are some fans who don't have a favorite club, but a favorite player, and anything that makes that player to leave the club, and the club is not performing as expected, they use that as an excuse to abandon the club for another. It is hard for me to change club, rather if my club is in their worst performance, I will only say that I no longer care about the club anymore. If I am angry, I will say that I don't have any club that is my favorite.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: pawel7777 on February 09, 2024, 06:15:23 PM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.

Funny thing to say from a former football player, knowing that players would change clubs all the time if the money is right. Same with managers. Yet somehow, only the fans are expected to be "loyal" to the club who only sees them as cash-cows consuming games and merchandise.
The only time when you should consider being loyal is when you have a real community with other fans (i.e. know them on a personal level, organise around other things than just watching a game etc).
But since all the major clubs divorced themselves from local communities, being owned by foreign investors, hiring managers and players with zero connection to local people - nobody owns them anything.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Nheer on February 09, 2024, 06:20:47 PM
This is not possible at all,changing your favourite team to another team,it's like falling in love with two different Women,but this one is quite different,I wonder how many can be so faithful to a particular club without switching to another when their team lose.So many times I have tried changing my team to another club who is doing well,but I find out that it so impossible to do that.I am a Liverpool fan,and I will remain a Red till death do us path.This is a club I loved from childhood,and till date,I'm still in love with my club.

Football is something that has to do with feelings, so in my opinion, it is possible. I have supported Manchester City since I was a young child. Players like Mario Balotelli, Sergio Aguero, and Tevez really makes me developed strong feelings for the team that year. So in 2012, I don't know how it happened, I see that I've started to have feelings for Chelsea because of Ballack and Frank Lampard's playing styles. That was the reason for changing from Manchester City to Chelsea.

my friends that I watched ball together with at the time, they told me that I wasn't a good football fan because a good football fan had to be patient and only support one team. But I didn't mind them because I knew that I supported the team that made me feel comfortable because everything in this life is based on your level of comfort.

Lionel Messi is another perfect example to me, it still seems like a dream that he left Barcelona. so if Messi will be in Barcelona right from his childhood and still leave, in my opinion it is possible one should change from his favorite team to another, what matters is comfort.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: armanda90 on February 09, 2024, 07:04:41 PM
Absolutely right, its really impossible to change your favorite football club because has many friend keep defend their favorite football team Manchester United although never won Premier League trophies since season 2012/13. Almost ten years without domestic league trophies and many manager have sacked by my friend keep loyal become Manchester United fans  ;D.
Have exceptional with fans favorite the players only and they will easily change their favorite team every season, such as Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo fans they have many favorite team and will change every season if their favorite players moving to the other club.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: pawel7777 on February 09, 2024, 09:31:58 PM
Lionel Messi is another perfect example to me, it still seems like a dream that he left Barcelona. so if Messi will be in Barcelona right from his childhood and still leave, in my opinion it is possible one should change from his favorite team to another, what matters is comfort.

The loyalty to the club only made sense when clubs were tied to their local communities. Teams consisted of local players, managed by local men, coached by local coaches, and supported by local people. Supporting a team from a town/city you didn't live in was a foreign concept.
Fast forward to the current times and it's all about money, football clubs became more like brands of beers etc. You pick one that's enjoyable at the moment.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: alltalk on February 09, 2024, 10:01:00 PM
So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.
No, it doesn't apply to all people.
Some people may choose the favorite football because they are fans of certain players. When they players move to a new team, the fans may change their favorite team as well (following the players). For example the fans of Ronaldo and Messi, they may change their favorite teams now because Ronaldo and Messi moved to new leagues. Although they are the fans of Real Madrid and Barcelona in the past, they may be the fans of Al Nassr and Inter Miami nowadays.  ;D

Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: ajiz138 on February 10, 2024, 02:29:11 PM
I remember when my team was in a bad situation, I criticized, but it was all for the good of the team I supported too. Even when my favorite team was doing well, I would occasionally criticize them, even though my voice might not be heard, but it was my concern.

No matter how bad the team looks, I will remain loyal, that's what loyalty is all about. For supporters, we may have heard these words a lot, "don't just be there when they are doing well, but we must still support when they are doing badly". That's what a true supporter is.

It is normal to criticize a team you support and criticisms doesn`t mean you changed or developed hatred for your favourite football club. Generally, constructive criticisms is geared towards improvement and when we criticize our favourite team it is because we wish them to do better. That is passion. When your favourite team is winning it brings joy in the mind of fans and vice versa.
That's the point, the criticism we deliver is constructive criticism, not criticism to bring down. I even question someone who says they are a true supporter but they never criticize the team they support. Is that a true supporter or what?

Maybe we have different views on this, but again. When we love something, we will always be there in any situation, be it good or bad. And when we love something, we will definitely criticize it for something better.

Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: MUGNIA on February 10, 2024, 04:37:49 PM
loving a football team is like loving our partner, we will be loyal even if they are experiencing protracted defeats and that love will disappear if our favorite team disbands or doesn't compete anymore,

that's me not for someone else , for opini this thread
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: armanda90 on February 10, 2024, 05:22:40 PM
loving a football team is like loving our partner, we will be loyal even if they are experiencing protracted defeats and that love will disappear if our favorite team disbands or doesn't compete anymore,

that's me not for someone else , for opini this thread
Loving football team will make us loyal and keep favorite our club forever, difference when some one loving or favorite with the players and every season have change their club favorite depend with their idol playing.
Not problem with our favorite team have poor performance or not and keep loyal although not winning any trophy yet for longer time, not easy become football club fans when our favorite club has bad performance and become meme every day for us exactly after bad result match on every week.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: pawel7777 on February 10, 2024, 06:31:55 PM
For example the fans of Ronaldo and Messi, they may change their favorite teams now because Ronaldo and Messi moved to new leagues. Although they are the fans of Real Madrid and Barcelona in the past, they may be the fans of Al Nassr and Inter Miami nowadays.  ;D

That's true and that's one of the reasons behind football superstars being traded for ridiculously high amounts of money and getting paid fortunes. It's not purely because of their skills, but also due to their "star factor" that will bring in a lot of new fans (not necessarily loyal) and, in turn, will generate a lot of additional revenue.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: vegasus on February 10, 2024, 11:58:24 PM
Can it?
I do not think so. Or maybe even if there is a percentage below 5%.

I'm not sure that when someone has become a fanatical fan of a club, they will choose to move to another club. This was like a betrayal of what he loved so far. I think this is very difficult to find.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: pawel7777 on February 13, 2024, 12:43:07 AM
Can it?
I do not think so. Or maybe even if there is a percentage below 5%.

I'm not sure that when someone has become a fanatical fan of a club, they will choose to move to another club. This was like a betrayal of what he loved so far. I think this is very difficult to find.

I think it's way more common than you think. It's best evidenced by dropping support/ticket sales when teams have dips in performance or get relegated etc. Many of the fans simply lose interest and move to something else. Sometimes they would start supporting other teams in addition to their old favourite club, and sometimes they would shift their attention to a completely different sport.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 13, 2024, 10:43:54 PM
Sometimes I have started to think that things are very different when it comes to football, but as I said before, I don't see myself changing from Madrid to Barcelona, it's something I don't see well, and I wouldn't feel good, that's why I think I I wouldn't do it, I don't know if the peroans with other sports are so difficult for them but I'm very emphatic about that , for me things are like that, I've always thought like that, when I'm not oing to Post or something , it's like He won't let me go for the other team, even if I'm sure I'm going to lose, it doesn't matter to me , even if I'm Betting , it's like I combine sentimentality and that's actually not good , but I wouldn't be able to change teams, I would feel very badly.

I can't even go against my teams when playing, in each League I have my Favorite team and I am faithful to my Teams at all times , Even if they lose , they come last, because things are more focused in every sense than how faithful one is It could be everything.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Agbe on September 22, 2024, 05:21:43 PM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/03/vHHha.png)

And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.

So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?

To me changing religion and all other things mentioned there is even harder than changing your favourite football team but this might be difficult for some people because of the passion that they put into it. My colleague used to love Manchester United but overtime his love and passion for the team started fading due to how poorly they were beginning to perform, he would go out to football viewing centres and wouldn't want to be identified as a Manchester United fan after a while he decided to switch to man city and I must say that he is very proud of his new club. But the question here is people like my colleague that run switch their favourite football team is there really an assurance that they wouldn't switch to another team again when the team doesn't perform well. I think as someone who's passionate about football you should stick to your favourite football team no matter what
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Emmanuel1 on October 03, 2024, 09:28:21 AM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/03/vHHha.png)

And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.

So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?
I think I have a different view, people who are die-hearted fans are people who cannot change their club despite their performance in a particular season, but I have seen several fans of a particular club who have changed their club because of their performance I believe,those fans who changes their club based on performance they are not die hearted fans of that particular club. So I think is vis-à-vis base on my own opinion there are people who will change the club based on there performance and their others who cannot change their club despite the performance of the club.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: robelneo on October 03, 2024, 11:17:24 AM
I was browsing through Twitter and I saw a shot someone posted where Eric Cantona (a former professional footballer) was quoted saying that people can change wives, change religion and even politics, but can not change their favorite football team.
What do you think about this?

Maybe it applies to football, and he is just stating the fact based on his experience, but its different on other sports, Here in our country, where basketball is the national past time, a fan can change his favorite team because of the player he idolizes when he transfers to another team, and there are people who never say die with their team, and they stick to it through thick and thin because of the memory.
And some sport teams are regional based and fans stick to it because of thye love of their roots.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Rruchi man on October 03, 2024, 08:23:23 PM
And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.
I was a supporter of Liverpool but later switched to Arsenal, not because I grew to hate Liverpool but because I grew to love Arsenal more. Arsenal has not won a trophy like the Premier League or the Champions League since I joined them, but I did not care because I love the team so much and everything about the team, and I'm willing to stick with them when they become champions either of Europe or England. So no! it is not impossible for someone to change their favorite football team; I just know that the reason for no longer supporting your team should not be that they are losing too many games.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Crypto Library on October 03, 2024, 08:49:59 PM
People select their favorite football club for some main reasons and this main reason may include that their favorite players play in that club or liking it because it is the club of their hometown. There may also be many other reasons to select a favorite football club. behind. As I have seen all my favorite players playing in the Barcelona team since my childhood, so I have supported Barcelona since my childhood. I still keep Barcelona first as my favorite football club, but Real Madrid is also on my second list as my favorite club.
So I think this is not impossible and those who say impossible it is their personal opinion but in reality, it is nothing impossible.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on October 26, 2024, 09:33:17 PM
Before saying something about is it really impossible to change the favorite football club I want to say something. And my say are if we look back to our past day like in 2021 I love a newly released song and I played it on that time more than 100 time and at a some time after I haven't much  feeling about the song what I have before. And If you see this on your self I can say you have the same experience.
So now I want to say that the favorite football is nothing changable things it is changable and human mind is changeable. I have lots of my friend who are supporting Barcelona before now they are supporting the real Madrid.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Gurujebs on October 26, 2024, 10:07:58 PM
Before saying something about is it really impossible to change the favorite football club I want to say something. And my say are if we look back to our past day like in 2021 I love a newly released song and I played it on that time more than 100 time and at a some time after I haven't much  feeling about the song what I have before. And If you see this on your self I can say you have the same experience.
So now I want to say that the favorite football is nothing changable things it is changable and human mind is changeable. I have lots of my friend who are supporting Barcelona before now they are supporting the real Madrid.

If you can change your club, then you are not a fan of your club from beginning. Been a loyal fan of  a football club is a forever loyalty. Music is not football and football is not music, they don't come close because music may get tiring but your favorite club has some more surprises you may least expected, I will not trade my club for anything.

Haven't you see a Arsenal fan, they are very loyal and if not for Arteta that helps reshape the club and performance, it's every week they do break their heart and they remain loyal for life and that's why they do say that a gunner is a gunner for life. You can't change your club unless you never love them from beginning.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 27, 2024, 01:56:53 AM
Before saying something about is it really impossible to change the favorite football club I want to say something. And my say are if we look back to our past day like in 2021 I love a newly released song and I played it on that time more than 100 time and at a some time after I haven't much  feeling about the song what I have before. And If you see this on your self I can say you have the same experience.
So now I want to say that the favorite football is nothing changable things it is changable and human mind is changeable. I have lots of my friend who are supporting Barcelona before now they are supporting the real Madrid.
i have seen very few people change teams that they like mostly because they all grow up watching and supporting that specific team that no matter what happens they are a fan’s ride or die

i don’t think your analogy works here because music and sports are quite different even though choosing a song/choosing a team to support to is based on your own personal preferences, choosing a song to listen to is nothing compared to the loyalty and emotional attachment you feel towards a team

not to mention that you are most likely to stay in a specific fanbase of the community it has built do you listen to your favorite song in group? no that’s why it is easier to change your favorite song than your favorite club
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: joniboini on October 27, 2024, 06:11:14 AM
I know one guy who changed his favorite club at least, whether you call him a true fan or not it happened anyway so that's that. I don't think anyone who does that would openly say they change their favorite club anyway, so that's that. Anyway, I think it's just an exaggeration as usual.

not to mention that you are most likely to stay in a specific fanbase of the community it has built do you listen to your favorite song in group? no that’s why it is easier to change your favorite song than your favorite club
Surprisingly, I choose to stay away from most communities involving anything that I like nowadays because negativity is hugely exaggerated. I don't know if social media algorithm has anything to do with it but it's very hard to find a post that doesn't have a particular motive based on my experience.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on October 27, 2024, 07:33:25 PM
i have seen very few people change teams that they like mostly because they all grow up watching and supporting that specific team that no matter what happens they are a fan’s ride or die

i don’t think your analogy works here because music and sports are quite different even though choosing a song/choosing a team to support to is based on your own personal preferences, choosing a song to listen to is nothing compared to the loyalty and emotional attachment you feel towards a team

not to mention that you are most likely to stay in a specific fanbase of the community it has built do you listen to your favorite song in group? no that’s why it is easier to change your favorite song than your favorite club
I would like to agree with you that yes the very few peoples are changed their favorite football club but I said to the reply of the topic title that it is not impossible and I sawn that in my few friends. But If I say about my self I haven't changed my football club even then the favourite players are left the team.
And about the analogy about the music here I just want to explain that human being i.e. as the human nature it is not impossible thing that human mind are changable.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: salad daging on October 27, 2024, 08:01:36 PM
Perhaps it's true that sports favorites are hard to replace even when the team is in a slump.

I have a friend who is a Leicester fan even when his favorite team was relegated he was still loyal to watch it, especially now that they are back in the Premier League even more loyal even though the team's performance is bad.

Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on October 31, 2024, 09:07:44 PM
Perhaps it's true that sports favorites are hard to replace even when the team is in a slump.

I have a friend who is a Leicester fan even when his favorite team was relegated he was still loyal to watch it, especially now that they are back in the Premier League even more loyal even though the team's performance is bad.
It is true that most of the football club fans didn't replace their favourite team but some time we saw the differences because some people just list the club in their favourite is for only their favorite players like I have known many peoples that they changes their favourite team after leaving the Messi from the Barcelona club.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: salad daging on October 31, 2024, 09:45:35 PM
Perhaps it's true that sports favorites are hard to replace even when the team is in a slump.

I have a friend who is a Leicester fan even when his favorite team was relegated he was still loyal to watch it, especially now that they are back in the Premier League even more loyal even though the team's performance is bad.
It is true that most of the football club fans didn't replace their favourite team but some time we saw the differences because some people just list the club in their favourite is for only their favorite players like I have known many peoples that they changes their favourite team after leaving the Messi from the Barcelona club.
It's the same when they favor a player instead of a team:
Ronaldo to Al Nassr - many fans came here
Messi to Inter Miami - lots of fans too
Mbappe to Real Madrid - fans follow him there.

But when someone favors his club he won't change it no matter how bad it is.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Gurujebs on October 31, 2024, 09:56:24 PM
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So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?

Since I have been watching football, I have not seen people be like they are changing their club because their club isn't performing well or they are not doing to his expectations. The only thing you might see them is get angry when they are sad and the they come back immediately again but when you love a club, you are there forever.

However, I have seen ladies changes their clubs and I know it's because they are emotional beings. If they do change boyfriends like they like then I think changing of club is a small thing for them to try out :D
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Zed0X on October 31, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
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However, I have seen ladies changes their clubs and I know it's because they are emotional beings. If they do change boyfriends like they like then I think changing of club is a small thing for them to try out :D
;D So men are loyal? I cannot compare because I am yet to meet a lady/woman that's actually into football. Anyway, I've watched an interview of a kid that was asked about his favorite football club. He mentioned a team but when asked which of the players is his favorite, he said none of them because they all suck.

Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Igebotz on November 01, 2024, 06:06:17 AM
However, I have seen ladies changes their clubs and I know it's because they are emotional beings. If they do change boyfriends like they like then I think changing of club is a small thing for them to try out :D

These women change football clubs not for emotional reasons, but because they are not true or diehard fans. These women, who do not even watch football, always want to be on the winning team. Any team that wins a game or receives a trophy becomes there club.

Women like this are not considered football fans.There are men who behave in this manner as well, so it is not limited to women. Nonetheless, it is very common among women. A true fan would criticize his team for poor performance and may even stop watching their games for a while, but they still support the team.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on November 01, 2024, 09:27:58 PM
It's the same when they favor a player instead of a team:
Ronaldo to Al Nassr - many fans came here
Messi to Inter Miami - lots of fans too
Mbappe to Real Madrid - fans follow him there.

But when someone favors his club he won't change it no matter how bad it is.
Even then if we deeply think about this  then most of the peoples supports those clubs who did good in the past leagues and as well as they are doing good in current stage. And when a club wins leagues they  must have good players in their quad and there are a good amount of people I think of the people have attraction on the good teams indirectly to the team. And that is the also a reason because AL Nassr hire Ronaldo and Inter Miami hire Messi.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: salad daging on November 01, 2024, 10:17:44 PM
It's the same when they favor a player instead of a team:
Ronaldo to Al Nassr - many fans came here
Messi to Inter Miami - lots of fans too
Mbappe to Real Madrid - fans follow him there.

But when someone favors his club he won't change it no matter how bad it is.
Even then if we deeply think about this  then most of the peoples supports those clubs who did good in the past leagues and as well as they are doing good in current stage. And when a club wins leagues they  must have good players in their quad and there are a good amount of people I think of the people have attraction on the good teams indirectly to the team. And that is the also a reason because AL Nassr hire Ronaldo and Inter Miami hire Messi.
Al Nassr and Inter Miami clubs are not as good as European league clubs, it is possible that the two clubs brought Messi and Ronaldo only to boost the popularity of the league so that fans around the world glance at the league.

But clearly most of us favor clubs from Europe rather than from other continental clubs.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Yamzakid on November 02, 2024, 05:09:09 AM
If you can change your club, then you are not a fan of your club from beginning. Been a loyal fan of  a football club is a forever loyalty. Music is not football and football is not music, they don't come close because music may get tiring but your favorite club has some more surprises you may least expected, I will not trade my club for anything.

I disagree with this because even players do not stay in one club forever, they change clubs, and some of these players care more about their clubs than we fans do, but if they notice the club is tired of them or they are tired of the team, they switch to the club where they will be happy. Does this mean they are not loyal to their clubs? So in my perspective, fans can also make the same decision, and fans have varied reasons for supporting a team. I supported Barcelona because of their football pattern then, and when I discovered the pattern wasn't there anymore, I switched to Manchester City because their playing pattern is actually the same with Barcelona, and I didn't regret choosing Manchester city.
Messi played for Barcelona from a young age, and he is no longer there, so why do you fans have to force yourselves to support one team out of fear of your friends that will make fun of you?
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on November 02, 2024, 12:42:26 PM
Al Nassr and Inter Miami clubs are not as good as European league clubs, it is possible that the two clubs brought Messi and Ronaldo only to boost the popularity of the league so that fans around the world glance at the league.

But clearly most of us favor clubs from Europe rather than from other continental clubs.
Yeap that also I mean in my post. Al Nassr and Inter Miami Clubs are not as good club as the strongness and also about the popularity, they only hire them with that big fund because of gaining some good popularity then they will also be able to regenerate the funds and will also hire the others good players in their squad. And I am sure if they keep continueing this for long term then this can also be happen after 10 or more than 10years these club can also be the most favor club even then they are not from the europe.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: MUGNIA on November 03, 2024, 05:22:03 PM
loving a football team is like loving our partner, we will be loyal even if they are experiencing protracted defeats and that love will disappear if our favorite team disbands or doesn't compete anymore,

that's me not for someone else , for opini this thread
Loving football team will make us loyal and keep favorite our club forever, difference when some one loving or favorite with the players and every season have change their club favorite depend with their idol playing.
Not problem with our favorite team have poor performance or not and keep loyal although not winning any trophy yet for longer time, not easy become football club fans when our favorite club has bad performance and become meme every day for us exactly after bad result match on every week.
Yes, that's right, like my country's team that always loses if they are given excessive support, I don't know how their game is when they are watched by their fans from the same country, but there is always a way for them to lose, even though they lose, they are still in our hearts
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: SmartGold01 on November 03, 2024, 06:14:52 PM
Yes, that's right, like my country's team that always loses if they are given excessive support, I don't know how their game is when they are watched by their fans from the same country, but there is always a way for them to lose, even though they lose, they are still in our hearts
For your country you can keep supporting them but in betting I wouldn't have to choose my country knowing too well that my country wouldn't give me winning, so to me what I will do is to place on a winning team and still give support to our club because they are from same country with me therefore I will give them support and cheer them up. This is to encourage them to have that support and trust that even at their weakest points they have people that are supporting them especially people from their country.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on November 03, 2024, 08:34:16 PM
For your country you can keep supporting them but in betting I wouldn't have to choose my country knowing too well that my country wouldn't give me winning, so to me what I will do is to place on a winning team and still give support to our club because they are from same country with me therefore I will give them support and cheer them up. This is to encourage them to have that support and trust that even at their weakest points they have people that are supporting them especially people from their country.
In cases of own region that is another topic even the people who will criticised their own home team  they will support them against any other team.
But we were talking about here the favourite footclub which are also support by lots of foreign people and here if a team constantly decrease their good performance and become a weak team then it is nothing impossible to change them of replaced them. And that is the main reason for most of the people having changes in their favorite teams.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 03, 2024, 08:40:59 PM
If you are really a fan of a specific football club ever since the beginning then I don't think you are gonna change not unless you dislike or you get disappointed with all their performances and without improvements they keep on losing. Though I am not a fan of football but if we are gonna put that into another sports perspective like comabt sports then I personally can change depending how that team is doing but most of the time I like respect on every game so whoever has nothing related to that then it's not gonna work for me even if thta was my favorite team.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: SmartGold01 on November 03, 2024, 09:26:42 PM
For your country you can keep supporting them but in betting I wouldn't have to choose my country knowing too well that my country wouldn't give me winning, so to me what I will do is to place on a winning team and still give support to our club because they are from same country with me therefore I will give them support and cheer them up. This is to encourage them to have that support and trust that even at their weakest points they have people that are supporting them especially people from their country.
In cases of own region that is another topic even the people who will criticised their own home team  they will support them against any other team.
But we were talking about here the favourite footclub which are also support by lots of foreign people and here if a team constantly decrease their good performance and become a weak team then it is nothing impossible to change them of replaced them. And that is the main reason for most of the people having changes in their favorite teams.
Of course I don't mind changing favorite team or club if I noticed they aren't doing well, just as what I have explained before that I will support them only if I don't stake or have a running match that I chose the other clubs to win. I give support to my favorite team if I don't place bet on them, but I do and I noticed that their strength is weak I will give support to the other team or club that are winning.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Tribalchief on November 03, 2024, 10:03:07 PM
So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?

What you saw was very true. I'm an arsenal as well, and I've being in a similar situation where I got tired, and choose to start supporting another club outside premier league, but only to realize that there is no better league than the premier league, and my love for the club is too strong. Though, the trolls from others has not been easy to handle, but I still remain loyal to the club. It's passion. It's some kind of unconditional love. Till the very end. COYG.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Agbe on November 05, 2024, 07:14:19 PM
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And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.

So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?
I agree with you on this that people can change wife, religion and other things but when it comes to teams that they support they find it really difficult to change as being a fan is something else infact there are people who don't eat simply because their teams loses a match and one this about football clubs that I have seen is that they all have season's that they play well while some other seasons they struggle some even go into relegation so you don't expect your team to be on top for ever as no one can remain a champion forever so when your club is not doing well it's expected of you to still keep Faith on them just like the good Old days when they where things where good
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on November 06, 2024, 07:55:37 PM
Of course I don't mind changing favorite team or club if I noticed they aren't doing well, just as what I have explained before that I will support them only if I don't stake or have a running match that I chose the other clubs to win. I give support to my favorite team if I don't place bet on them, but I do and I noticed that their strength is weak I will give support to the other team or club that are winning.
That is also my words because this is nothing that kind of thins we can't change or it can be harm us after changing the favourite team or club.
Like I know multiple peoples and friend who supports and change their favourites club Barcelona to the Real Madrid there are multiple reason on behind of this and I think most of us know which reason can be for it.
And now in case of gambling I don't think there is any connection between the favorite club vs the gambling or bet placement And if anyone only bet on their favourite team then I might say that person is nothing but fool.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Igebotz on November 07, 2024, 12:01:05 PM
I agree with you on this that people can change wife, religion and other things but when it comes to teams that they support they find it really difficult to change as being a fan is something else infact there are people who don't eat simply because their teams loses a match and one this about football clubs that I have seen is that they all have season's that they play well while some other seasons they struggle some even go into relegation so you don't expect your team to be on top for ever as no one can remain a champion forever so when your club is not doing well it's expected of you to still keep Faith on them just like the good Old days when they where things where good

Sometimes I wonder why it is so difficult to switch football clubs. These clubs do not pay their supporters, and they do not force people to support them. People are also not required to take any form of oath before supporting a team, so I am curious why it is difficult to change teams.

In some cases, even when a player who inspired a fan to support and love the team is signed by another club or retires, the fan's loyalty remains. This is really surprising, but it is our reality. As you mentioned, even when the team is having a bad run of form, die-hard fans will continue to support them despite numerous criticisms.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: pieppiep on November 07, 2024, 02:09:10 PM
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And the comment section of the tweet, many people agree with him, and I personally thought to disagree, but I quickly remembered that I've been an Arsenal fan for many years now right from when I was a teenager and up to this moment, and even then Arsenal was one the worst football club, I never stopped seeing myself as their fan, and neither have I ever supported another club to beat Arsenal even when I'm certain that Arsenal chances of wining is as good as zero.

So, I began to think within myself if actually this is true for everyone else, and if there is some kind of mystery behind football clubs and team fanship.

What do you think about this?
I agree with you on this that people can change wife, religion and other things but when it comes to teams that they support they find it really difficult to change as being a fan is something else infact there are people who don't eat simply because their teams loses a match and one this about football clubs that I have seen is that they all have season's that they play well while some other seasons they struggle some even go into relegation so you don't expect your team to be on top for ever as no one can remain a champion forever so when your club is not doing well it's expected of you to still keep Faith on them just like the good Old days when they where things where good
Indeed, Being a true fan is an emotion that has little to do with the changes we can make consciously. Being a fan is not all about victory, but it’s more about faithfulness before and during the years of struggle. We all understand in football, no team is invincible and sometimes it is a tough year, Morientes learned that. That is when our role as supporters is actually important, and when we need to stand by them as we used to do when they were successful.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: SmartGold01 on November 08, 2024, 04:09:36 PM
Of course I don't mind changing favorite team or club if I noticed they aren't doing well, just as what I have explained before that I will support them only if I don't stake or have a running match that I chose the other clubs to win. I give support to my favorite team if I don't place bet on them, but I do and I noticed that their strength is weak I will give support to the other team or club that are winning.
That is also my words because this is nothing that kind of thins we can't change or it can be harm us after changing the favourite team or club.
Like I know multiple peoples and friend who supports and change their favourites club Barcelona to the Real Madrid there are multiple reason on behind of this and I think most of us know which reason can be for it.
And now in case of gambling I don't think there is any connection between the favorite club vs the gambling or bet placement And if anyone only bet on their favourite team then I might say that person is nothing but fool.
I can't completely say that such person is fool or not but it deals with much believe and trust, they so much trust their team and club, so even though they are losing they don't care for any reason just that they are happy with their club.
Leaving a club or a favorite team to another doesn't entirely connote that such person a fool, but it shows how important their team is to them, like I already said, during bet I don't attached emotions instead I bet on club that would give me winning than keep supporting them and lose.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: |MINER| on November 08, 2024, 10:03:56 PM
I can't completely say that such person is fool or not but it deals with much believe and trust, they so much trust their team and club, so even though they are losing they don't care for any reason just that they are happy with their club.
Leaving a club or a favorite team to another doesn't entirely connote that such person a fool, but it shows how important their team is to them, like I already said, during bet I don't attached emotions instead I bet on club that would give me winning than keep supporting them and lose.
Still I will say that those person are nothing but stupid and fools who bet only on their favourite team. Like if you live in a region which team or club was the weakest team and even if you bet on that team in every match there will be loss and loss you will never see the face of profit. And I am saying this just an example. And if anyone do this, it clear the person gambling or betting from the emotions and gambling with emotions can be very dangerous things.
Title: Re: Is it really impossible to change favorite football club?
Post by: Mate2237 on November 10, 2024, 08:13:03 PM
I will say yes because many fans are supporting na club because of a particular player (s) and whenever the player (s) is transfer to another club they also move to the new club. But for those fans who really joined club because of the general performance of the club will not leave for another club. And it is very hard for them to do that.

Like in the time when Manchester United doing well they were gathering fans and when they started performing poor. Many of the fans slide back and didn't give them full support again and if Manchester United was playing football with another team instead of supporting Man U, they would support ithe other club and most of their tickets were win. But recently that Manchester United is doing well now. And most of the fans are coming back again. And supporting Man U with full support.