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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: Don Pedro Dinero on February 13, 2024, 06:26:35 PM
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Every now and then I come across a thread like the following:
what can you do without money? (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329.0)
The thread was created in October 2017 after 7 years since the last comment, people have only recently started commenting. I think it would be convenient to lock that kind of thread and if someone thinks it would be interesting to comment on something similar they can open a thread, 7 years later (although in the specific case of that thread I think it would be fine to be trashed as the OP is low value and has quite a few comments of that style).
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report any old topic need to be locked to admin/Moderators and give people who post spam a negative Karma.
The forum tries to be friendly to everyone, but sometimes some decisions must be taken to limit spam.
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I think it would be convenient to lock that kind of thread and if someone thinks it would be interesting to comment on something similar they can open a thread
I would probably report most of the post like this to moderators in any forum, especially if this they are made by members wearing paid signatures.
However, this post was made in General Discussion board, and I consider this similar like off-topic board in bitcointalk forum.
Start reporting in all other boards and let's see how moderators will react.
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It is never appropriate to respond to a topic after seven years!! Especially since the topic is less than normal and does not deserve all this discussion. However, if the topic deserves to be discussed and revived, it is better to start a new thread, as you mentioned.
I also believe that it is not only the duty of moderators, but also the duty of campaign managers to warn members who commit these things just to get weekly payment and to consider these posts as spam that are not eligible for payment.
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If you see necro bumping which doesn't add anything important to the discussion, you can give -karma and report it.
But the General Discussion section is a kind of off topic section, posts in there don't count as activity (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=1185.0) and I moderate it softly. I don't delete necro bumps, evaluation of the level of low quality posts is much softer in there, etc. So if it is a very annoying post, you can give -karma, but if there is no harder violation (plagiarism including AI bot text, scam, SEO link spam, etc.) I'll hardly delete it or issue a registered warning. General Discussion is a place where users can relax a bit, talk about mostly everything, etc.
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@Jokers, is there any warning for those who want to make a post in an old topic? I know that there is a warning on BTT, if I'm not mistaken, if no one has made a post in the topic for 120 days - but even that sometimes doesn't help that someone doesn't decide to bring up old topics for completely unjustified reasons.
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@Jokers, is there any warning for those who want to make a post in an old topic?
Of course.
(https://i.ibb.co/HPkRDgp/warn.png)
So if there's nothing really important to add to an old topic, it is of course better not to bump it. But some ignore any warnings...
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if someone thinks it would be interesting to comment on something similar they can open a thread, 7 years later (although in the specific case of that thread I think it would be fine to be trashed as the OP is low value and has quite a few comments of that style).
The thread is locked, I think it locked after this topic, thanks to you then it's a good step you took, I suggest please lock each and every old thread' whose OP is not active anymore. I saw threads where the OP has not active for years. So why we are still replying there? I can understand one might not be giving a reply to OP only but one reply on these old topics takes them to the top of the section.
I got frustrated opening and closing them one by one after knowing the thread was old, It's not that I don't want to make a post on old threads due to some rules of my campaigns, its just looks so unprofessional and unrealistic for me to start a discussion which is so old and needs no attention now.
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I saw threads where the OP has not active for years. So why we are still replying there?
Lobachevskian geometry is still discussed despite Nikolai Lobachevsky himself died in 1856. Should we stop? It doesn't have sense.
When you discuss something in the topic you take part in a discourse with multiple users in the topic and the topic starter's impact becomes less and less important with each page. Doesn't matter if the topic starter is inactive for years if you answer someone who is interested in the topic and wrote something meaningful a couple of days ago.
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I have often see necrobumping in this forum specially now that there are many teleported accounts that some abused bumping even a 4 year old sleeping thread , but what I do is that checking if the post or the reply they are bringing is worth it and also valid argument but once I found them just a spam to have another count for their posts? then I keep reporting them to Moderator/admin so they will evaluate if needed to delete or will just let them there .
maybe in this our help is a big in need because there are so much thread here that cannot be administer just like that and we can keep eye and report those.
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then I keep reporting them to Moderator/admin so they will evaluate if needed to delete or will just let them there .
IMO most correct decision. You can also give -karma for those who leave some meaningless necro bumping posts just to increase the post count. Let's make our forum more comfortable for everyone together! :)
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So if there's nothing really important to add to an old topic, it is of course better not to bump it. But some ignore any warnings...
Thanks for the info, but in the end everything depends on the situation - because today I bumped an old topic on BTT because I had the same problem described in that topic and it didn't make sense for me to open a new one. I think that no one will (or should) be too upset about such "justified exceptions".
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Every now and then I come across a thread like the following:
what can you do without money? (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329.0)
The thread was created in October 2017 after 7 years since the last comment, people have only recently started commenting. I think it would be convenient to lock that kind of thread and if someone thinks it would be interesting to comment on something similar they can open a thread, 7 years later (although in the specific case of that thread I think it would be fine to be trashed as the OP is low value and has quite a few comments of that style).
There are a lot of open and old topics that are not relevant in our times we should not bump this thread or if there is a need to create a topic similar to that old topic then we should create a new one rephrase it and add some updates to the new thread that are not in the old topic.
Some topics like market trends cannot exist for a long time or when it already generated a lot of replies the essence of the thread is losing its direction.
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The thread was created in October 2017 after 7 years since the last comment, people have only recently started commenting. I think it would be convenient to lock that kind of thread and if someone thinks it would be interesting to comment on something similar they can open a thread, 7 years later (although in the specific case of that thread I think it would be fine to be trashed as the OP is low value and has quite a few comments of that style).
You are right, topics like these should be locked but not trashed as they are already counted in the forum stats as well, and things need a little dusting here on this forum so, the mods, or admin might not prefer to delete the old topics instead locking them would be a better decision. I also saw many old topics and the frustrating thing is to know the dates of the topics, I have to open them and then close them after seeing the dates, I wonder if anyone else is facing the same issue.
Well besides locking topics like these, it would be best that we are given an extra feature that would tell us when this topic is made, instead of the last post made on that topic, or is there any way to do that already and I'm not aware of that. Then do let me know. People actually don't really see when the topics was made, or either the OP is active or not, they just see the last post and started to make posts there. I might have also made some posts on such thread also.
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It was a good thread for general discussion. Since it was closed I opened this one.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317815.0
So feel free to answer the new thread.🧵
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I might have also made some posts on such thread also.
If your post is actual and you follow the line of the discussion, I see no problem. The problem can be when some starting answering the same thing which was already answered several times or start answering the topic starter when it is not actual anymore. I see no point in closing topics just because some users came from BTT with some bad habits common there. IMO it is a matter of changing habits to a more natural for forum communication. Not endless answers to a first post, but a discussion between different users. And when you discuss something it can be sad if your interlocutor is not active for a long time, but someone else can be interested in your words and answer you developing the conversation.
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I have often see necrobumping in this forum specially now that there are many teleported accounts that some abused bumping even a 4 year old sleeping thread...
Well, I don't think it's us, as necro bumps are usually deleted there, unless it's well justified to bump the thread and not open a new one. Unless they are from teleported users who were not very active there (they were ranked up before the merit system and since then they stopped being active because they couldn't get merits or join campaigns).
I see no point in closing topics just because some users came from BTT with some bad habits common there. IMO it is a matter of changing habits to a more natural for forum communication.
Well, if common sense is applied I don't see bad habits here or there. The thread with which I opened the post is not one of those that incites a passionate debate, and given the time that has passed since the OP and the poor quality of the responses, it seems well locked to me, whereas in other cases I understand that old threads can be revitalized.
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If your post is actual and you follow the line of the discussion, I see no problem. The problem can be when some starting answering the same thing which was already answered several times or start answering the topic starter when it is not actual anymore. I see no point in closing topics just because some users came from BTT with some bad habits common there. IMO it is a matter of changing habits to a more natural for forum communication. Not endless answers to a first post, but a discussion between different users. And when you discuss something it can be sad if your interlocutor is not active for a long time, but someone else can be interested in your words and answer you developing the conversation.
You are right, even if the OP is not active anymore the possibility for a thread to become an interesting one among other people is high, because it all depends on the discussions going on and people participating in them. If the thread is being active for good discussions then there is definitely no need to lock such a thread and I agree on this with you.
You are right about the repeated thread and they really become annoying sometimes but interesting as well. Sometimes refreshing also. Few days ago I saw thread which is new (not old) where the OP was asking what are ordinals, the thing is topic is not that old but almost everyone knows that, so asking such questions kind a feel unique now a days. And then there comes topics where people ask what is BTC. I don't make fun of them just saying.
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I have often see necrobumping in this forum specially now that there are many teleported accounts that some abused bumping even a 4 year old sleeping thread...
Well, I don't think it's us, as necro bumps are usually deleted there, unless it's well justified to bump the thread and not open a new one. Unless they are from teleported users who were not very active there (they were ranked up before the merit system and since then they stopped being active because they couldn't get merits or join campaigns).
I don't think I have pointed this term directly to us because we from bitcointalk knows that necrobumping is prohibited and can easily be reported to the mod , but we cannot deny the fact that going with us now there are lots of spammers from BTT that also migrated here and may have using old post to spam and increase their activities and points.
but even if its not from teleported accounts like us yet We need to report directly to mod/admin as this has been discussed also in general chat few weeks before.
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but even if its not from teleported accounts like us yet We need to report directly to mod/admin as this has been discussed also in general chat few weeks before.
That's right. If the post is just a necro bump and there's no real reason to bump and old topic, it would be right to report it. (Don't report necro bumps and other minor problems in General Discussion section, this one exact section is more free to talk different ways; if you are very upset with something there you can give -karma.)
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This https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329.0 you mentioned has nothing to even comment. The thread is already a trash so those who are making comments there didn't look well or if they did then I can't say anything again. As your rightly said it, the thread should be locked. This is one of the thread the forum Vice president created and I made comment too. And if there should be any similar discussion or thread, there should be new thread on that with quality write up and not similar to that old one.