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Marketplace => Gambling & Crypto Casinos => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Agbe on February 14, 2024, 07:18:40 PM
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I made some research about the topic both in the forum and Google Search Engine but I didn't see any related topic as well but if anyone noticed that this topic has been discussed here before then call my attention. But I know that it is at other forum.
Yes let go back to the course of discussion. This has been an argument for group of people across the globe and many have been saying that money is the only thing that making the the world to be united but in my own POV football is also uniting the world. I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended. So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
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why compare money to football? football is not popular in some countries.
nothing unites the world now, even the Ukraine-Russia war people are siding with Russia because people just don't trust the government anymore after all the times they have been telling us since time.
but have Elon and Zuckerberg inside the octagon, people may just stop what they are doing and watch. we wanna see people like them fight. ;D
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Money will always bring the world together due to international business relationship. But it is sad to see that even doing business does not mean that if these countries have some sentimental issues that they would tolerate one another. Football is getting more popular as we are seeing some countries that don't have interest in football then, are recently showing interest. Football brings people from different countries together but does not mean that it unites them. We can see how racism is still in football, last year it happened to Vini
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Hmm interesting, well from my own take, I think football is big but not every country plays football or enjoys football but I think if we are to evaluate the ratio the bigger portion will be given to the football being the more uniting figure and I say this with the example that transpired in my own country.
Just recently Nigerian were all united as one and forget about all the hardship that the country posses to them base on the expectations and brilliant performance of the super eagles that led them to the finals and believe me that day of the finals was a really something as Nigerian were all over were in one spirit but unfortunately we still lost the trophy.
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It is money. Nothing unites a country other than money because every country needs a collaborative business idea to boost its economy to growth and football can't offer that. What football can offer is happiness moments for both countries at that point and after that, the unity ends and there won't be any other further unification of those countries. But as for those countries who share a monetary exchange of goods and services, their relationship continues and that keeps unifying them economically.
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Having a common interest in something, be it football or money, does not mean the same as being united (which is an overrated term by the way).
People don't unite just for the sake of it, they do it to achieve something. They unite to fight for something or against something.
Football can unite people in some cases, i.e. fans of rival clubs unite to support their national team etc, but it also divides people on the fans of different teams. None of that is inherently good or bad.
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I made some research about the topic both in the forum and Google Search Engine but I didn't see any related topic as well but if anyone noticed that this topic has been discussed here before then call my attention. But I know that it is at other forum.
Yes let go back to the course of discussion. This has been an argument for group of people across the globe and many have been saying that money is the only thing that making the the world to be united but in my own POV football is also uniting the world. I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended. So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
The war didn't magically end because 2 countries played soccer. There was probably a lot of politics involved that had more to do with things outside of football IMO.
Neither unite the world. Money usually separates people and football is just entertainment.
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I made some research about the topic both in the forum and Google Search Engine but I didn't see any related topic as well but if anyone noticed that this topic has been discussed here before then call my attention. But I know that it is at other forum.
Yes let go back to the course of discussion. This has been an argument for group of people across the globe and many have been saying that money is the only thing that making the the world to be united but in my own POV football is also uniting the world. I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended. So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
Yes, here is a reality I have noticed where the war between Russia and Ukraine is going on but the only football match I have seen is with these two teams facing each other in a friendly atmosphere on the same field. Sports definitely creates a bond between two different nations or between two different countries by creating a harmonious environment. In that case, I will not give as much importance to money as football or sports. Especially between Pakistan and India, there is always a bilateral conflict within the two countries, although these two teams are opposite each other on the field of play, but only for cricket, these two teams face each other by maintaining a cordial atmosphere between each other. However, it creates a bond between the two countries, be it football cricket or any other sports competition in the world.
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So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
I don't really know about the hustle and bustle of football, but where I am, football is very trendy in terms of sports, and other sports are not as famous as football.
Maybe also in my place football can unite together into one goal.
Money is definitely the first choice for everyone and I am also one of them who needs money every day.
I work every day to earn money, everyone works to earn money, playing football is also to earn money.
I would really agree if football and money are what unite the main goal for everyone, money for everyone and football for all football lovers.
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It's the common interest that unites countries in the form alliances. In your example, both countries neither wanted to give up but also recognized the losses they suffered as a result of the war. The football game just provided an opportunity. If one country doesn't have an interest in settling, the war would have continued.
These alliances aren't ironclad though. If their national interests do not align, expect these countries to part ways.
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I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended. So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
To a certain extent, sports can play a vital role in uniting people but generally as far as I know observing human nature at play in geopolitics people go to war because of deep historical differences and those differences won't easily be healed by bringing them together and have then play football. I am sorry to pour some cold water on this idea but sports and even money will not be the lasting solutions to big and small conflicts around the world. Like in the war right now between Gaza and Israel, their differences go back to decades of conflicts and there are no easy solutions for them...and even if one will be torched and lose the war the battle will continue on for generations to come until one of them will be totally obliterated and that is why war is a question of strength though the battle can be a little bit different. Israel is winning the war but losing the battle in the eyes of the world. Now, it would have been nice if we can just have them play football and they forget everything that transpired in the past...how I wish it would be so easy at that. But I admire your desire for peace, prosperity and freedom though sadly in today's world those may not be easy to find as long as humanity is conflicted within. And not even Bitcoin and cryptocurrency for that matter can be able to stop war and create peace for all to enjoy.
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what unites countries with other countries is money where business is carried out for the betterment of both parties, football is just a game and even a competition for entertainment, but if there is something like you said it could be made into history if one football match can make a country make peace from a war
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Football is the most popular sport in the world and if you want to say football unites the world that's fine. We can see during the World Cup for example, all eyes are on the biggest football party.
But I don't understand why the comparison and the question of which unites the world more, football or money. In fact now money is one of the sources of problems, one of the things that makes some countries go to war is because of money.
I don't think we can compare what unites the world more, football and money.
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but have Elon and Zuckerberg inside the octagon, people may just stop what they are doing and watch. we wanna see people like them fight. ;D
I personally like this idea that instead of comapring football and money why not these billionairs? That's a lot more fun just like what TraxNYC and Nico Leonard did I really enjoyed that match given that these billionaires were not into the sports of boxing as you can see with how they do it in the ring. 😅
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Both are tools that enhances countries and puts countries together whether war or any conflict between inter state and between intra community what unites them is money and football. But sometimes money also easily causes conflicts between two country it could be crud oil or natural resource that easily breaks and tor countries/state/ and community apart.
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All over the world the sharing formula is always inequality and that has been causing problems the whole world. And that is also the highest cause of the poverty in the world because the politicians and leaders refuse to share the national wealth, and both the national resources equal with the citizens but instead they they use them to inrich themselves and forgetting the poor to be more poorer. And the poor are always angry but they are all laughing and smiling when they are all gathered together to watch sports.
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On my understanding I can fully said that sports are what gives people fun and its what makes people feel better, just like we know when we are at a film hall watching football match we also fell happy even when our team are losing we communicate with our fellow team members in the hall and that's what makes sports interesting.
But when it comes to money, money is what people need to take care of them selfs and their responsibilities.
And again, money can never unite a country because some people can have money and still do evil things because they are not contented.
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Well, there are many things that unite the world, there is the international station that is in space. Another is the soaps in the 90s, a couple of countries at war came to a truce to see the soaps, it is true, it happened.
As for the comparison with money, it seems a little obvious to me, I mean, it is a common interest.
Football has many times achieved confrontations on the playing field in a peaceful way.
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I think money and football are not enough to unite a nation together. Just as yahoo62278 had said, money separates people and football is just for entertainment purposes. Football is just for fun and does not last long for the time being and in some cases, causes little fracas. For instance, I could remember year's back during one of the competition years back when an African country won their counterparts in the same continental cup. After that match, the citizens of the other country that lost the match began to attack the country men of their winner in their own country and this was televised and even in this just concluded AFCON similar thing repeated itself where by players were threatened to not step into their country or they should leave if they are there already.
Money on the other hand is most times a tussle for power. Nations rising against nations as a result for their interest in the natural resources of the other nations either to drag or to sanction them against trading or exploring what they have for financial gains.
I think love is the uniting factor to sustain relationship amongst nations and individuals all over the world.
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I saw a social media post that, two countries were fighting and a football match was fixed for the two countries to play as regional competition and a popular footballer from one of the country asked his country to go and play the match in the other country and asked the other country soldiers to drop their weapons and they did and the match was played and after the match the war between the two countries also ended.
Why not mention the countries?
If you're thinking of the Biafra war then Pele didn't stop a thing, the war went on for a year after the match.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/did-pele-and-santos-really-stop-a-war-in-nigeria-in-1969/yhomuw4g6fyr1fdvda0pu58b3
According to Pele's team-mates Gilmar and Coutinho, the ceasefire barely lasted for the duration of the game; as the side's plane took off, they could hear from inside the craft the sound of gunshots that marked the resumption of conflict.
If you think of the Christmas truce from ww1 that wasn't about football it was about Christmas and again didn't last long.
Also, football was itself a reason for war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War
Let's not even mention hooliganism, one football match and whole Europe goes full medieval again.
If you want a thing that unites people it's music, google Enter Sandman and Moscow.
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So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
Obviously, football unites the world. Money doesn`t unite people. Experiences have shown that some friends went apart because of money. The feeling of Mr. A having money and Mr. B not having is capable of creating disparity between people unlike football where people don`t attach social class when they watch the game. Football is a universal language that transcends linguistic and cultural barriers. The passion for football is shared by millions of people worldwide, creating a common ground for interaction and love. Fans can develop a sense of camaraderie with fellow supporters, regardless of their nationality or background.
This is true when you consider events like the FIFA World Cup which bring together nations from around the globe to compete on the same stage. These tournaments foster a sense of unity and sportsmanship among countries that may have political or social differences like the instance you gave.
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So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
Obviously, football unites the world. Money doesn`t unite people. Experiences have shown that some friends went apart because of money. The feeling of Mr. A having money and Mr. B not having is capable of creating disparity between people unlike football where people don`t attach social class when they watch the game. Football is a universal language that transcends linguistic and cultural barriers. The passion for football is shared by millions of people worldwide, creating a common ground for interaction and love. Fans can develop a sense of camaraderie with fellow supporters, regardless of their nationality or background.
This is true when you consider events like the FIFA World Cup which bring together nations from around the globe to compete on the same stage. These tournaments foster a sense of unity and sportsmanship among countries that may have political or social differences like the instance you gave.
You make sense for this comment. One karma for you. Many people are saying money is the only thing that can unite the world because money can buy everything and make people happy while football is just a feeling which is only to entertain. And as you said money has created and caused a lot of enemies in the world but football has brought people together for excitement and making people to forget their sorrow.
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So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
The thing with money is, it brings power. And when you test power, you crave four more. The hunger for power creates conflicts between people and the more powerful they get the more conflict they brings. Money could never be a solution to unite the whole world. If that was the case, there will be no conflict over the world and there would be no poor people suffering. It's all about money and power which brings difficulties and conflicts.
I won't say that I am an avid fan of football ( I think you were referring to soccer). But when people enjoy something and share a mutual feelings toward that, I think that could easily unite people. Also I don't want to be biased about anything. Having different choices amongst players could also create conflicts amongst people. So it's not the perfect solution either. But it is what it is. If you take it as something good it becomes something good.
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So from your observation which of the two really Unite the World. Football or Money.
The thing with money is, it brings power. And when you test power, you crave four more. The hunger for power creates conflicts between people and the more powerful they get the more conflict they brings. Money could never be a solution to unite the whole world. If that was the case, there will be no conflict over the world and there would be no poor people suffering. It's all about money and power which brings difficulties and conflicts.
I won't say that I am an avid fan of football ( I think you were referring to soccer). But when people enjoy something and share a mutual feelings toward that, I think that could easily unite people. Also I don't want to be biased about anything. Having different choices amongst players could also create conflicts amongst people. So it's not the perfect solution either. But it is what it is. If you take it as something good it becomes something good.
If people weren't so greedy the world would be better off. That's not going to happen though. Always going to be poor people suffering as well because in general people are just out for themselves. I see beggars on the street and want to help now and then, but my issue is so many liars are beggars as well. By that I mean there are groups that dress up dirty and go to street corners begging all day, then get picked up and go party all night from the money they begged for. They're not really poor, just lazy.
Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.
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All over the world the sharing formula is always inequality and that has been causing problems the whole world. And that is also the highest cause of the poverty in the world because the politicians and leaders refuse to share the national wealth, and both the national resources equal with the citizens but instead they they use them to inrich themselves and forgetting the poor to be more poorer. And the poor are always angry but they are all laughing and smiling when they are all gathered together to watch sports.
That is why I said money sometimes is worth causes conflicts among countries and states let say for example as you said about politician and when they seems not to look over the country and her citizens it could cause and conflict resolution were the citizens would start fighting for their right by so doing it has cause serious war and division within the country. But most times football and any form of entertainments is what brought countries and nations together.
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This thread is getting intense because from the different comments from the beginning, everyone was given their POV and from their experienced.
Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.
Neither unite the world. Money usually separates people and football is just entertainment.
Yahoo my man, how do you say about these statements. The way I look at it you were contradicting the two because at first you said neither the two but now you have chosen one. Can you put more highlights on the part you have chosen?
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This thread is getting intense because from the different comments from the beginning, everyone was given their POV and from their experienced.
Sports bring people together more than money, but both usually cause drama. Someone wants to win a bet, someone wants what the other has, blah blah ya know.
Neither unite the world. Money usually separates people and football is just entertainment.
Yahoo my man, how do you say about these statements. The way I look at it you were contradicting the two because at first you said neither the two but now you have chosen one. Can you put more highlights on the part you have chosen?
I don't feel it contradicts anywhere. Sports brings people together, friends who are at one another's house for say a Superbowl party or hanging out having a few beers and enjoying a game, but that's not uniting the world. Not even close!!! So it brings people together but not the world.
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Football is a sport that unites everyone in the world because in my environment Football is a sport that is very popular with people.
Money can also unite everyone and everyone needs money, but sometimes money makes people arrogant and hostile, such as when it comes to family inheritance.
Football gives me goodness because I can sweat, joke with campus friends and compete with my own skills in handling the ball.
Money is very sensitive, especially many of my college friends who gamble and sometimes they borrow money from me to gamble but I don't give them loans.Because if I lend money to gamble to my friend and my friend doesn't pay it back because he lost the gambling then he and I will definitely be enemies.
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I see beggars on the street and want to help now and then, but my issue is so many liars are beggars as well. By that I mean there are groups that dress up dirty and go to street corners begging all day, then get picked up and go party all night from the money they begged for. They're not really poor, just lazy.
Well, I don't think of people that way. I am not very religious, but I try to follow as much as possible. In my religion, it is said that when a person comes to you for a need, they should never leave empty-handed. It is also said that, when you leave someone empty-handed, that day can come to you as well. Maybe not today, not to you, but to your future generation. The role could be reversed.
So I try to do all the good I can. Sorry for bringing up religion here but I follow this and I think it is the best. Whether someone is in need or they are just impersonating or faking it, I am giving it to them so that I can feel that I have done something good. And I think I will get something as a reward for that from god.
I will do my part and god will do his part to reward me. If someone is lying, they will also get their punishment from god as well. If I stop helping people just because some dude decides to scam me, then I will not be able to help someone when they are really in need of help.
Sorry for the long reply but that's just how I feel.
And lastly, everything could be used for good or bad depending on people using it. but as you said, people will always be greedy and they will search for their advantage. And they will use it to create conflicts.
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But most times football and any form of entertainments is what brought countries and nations together.
Most times...cause this:
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can turn into this:
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I wonder how was football uniting those:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot
On 1 February 2012, a massive riot occurred at Port Said Stadium in Port Said, Egypt, following an Egyptian Premier League football match between Al Masry and Al Ahly. Seventy-four people were killed and more than 500 injured after thousands of Al Masry fans stormed the stadium stands and the pitch following a 3–1 victory by their club and violently attacked Ahly fans, using clubs, stones, machetes, knives, bottles, and fireworks, trapping them inside the Al Ahly partition of the stadium.
Death(s) 72 Al-Ahly fans, 1 Al-Masry fan, 1 police officer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanjuruhan_Stadium_disaster
On 1 October 2022, a fatal human crush occurred following an association football match at Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia.[4] Following a loss by home side Arema to rivals Persebaya Surabaya, around 3,000 Arema supporters invaded the pitch.[5][6] Police said the rioting supporters attacked the players and the team officials. Deaths 135
I don't feel it contradicts anywhere. Sports brings people together, friends who are at one another's house for say a Superbowl party or hanging out having a few beers and enjoying a game, but that's not uniting the world. Not even close!!! So it brings people together but not the world.
I've always been curious, how comes that hooliganism is so low in the US compared to EU?
I've seen NFL or NBA fans being just as hardcore when defending their teams but not once I've ever seen in stadium in the US the crowd going , like I said, fully medieval as I've seen it numerous times live here as I've been caught in one or two incidents myself.
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conflict is inevitable, in the year 2003, a communities played football in my community and there was a serious conflict within the match. And after that day they reconciled. Football conflict or war or fight has not lead to serious enmity. But money can divide people forever. So Stompix, please can you tell us what can unit the world together?
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I made some research about the topic both in the forum and Google Search Engine but I didn't see any related topic as well but if anyone noticed that this topic has been discussed here before then call my attention. But I know that it is at other forum.
Yes let go back to the course of discussion. This has been an argument for group of people across the globe and many have been saying that money is the only thing that making the the world to be united but in my own POV football is also uniting the world.
In my opinion, on the contrary, money can actually make the world chaotic and competitive. Because every country wants to become the first and richest and most powerful in this world. And this is not actually uniting, but actually competing. At least, even though they collaborate in various fields, this collaboration certainly contains various interests, which in the end are about money and power.
As for football, it will unite the world, but there are various gaps. because there are many clubs that are each individual's favorite. So it's still limited to which club you used to be with. Even if we look at how each football fan comments, it's really sad, because they each say harsh things about their rival clubs or players. So I'm also confused about whether this is uniting or actually making the world hotter. ha ha ha
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Football conflict or war or fight has not lead to serious enmity. But money can divide people forever.
Oh lol, no, it has!
Some really don't really get the difference between fans in the US, Asia for example and Europe!!!
It wasn't uncommon to have full neighborhood fights because of the teams, we even turned fans into mercenayy like gangs, read about the so called "ultras" or "hooligan firms"
And money can bring people together also.
Look at Bitcoin, everyone is having fun cause they get rich!
So Stompix, please can you tell us what can unit the world together?
Already told you, if we exclude rap rivalry, music!