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Title: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on February 22, 2024, 10:19:30 PM
I've seen it before, but I didn't expect it to be a regular practice here.
So, for example, thread KYC verified badge to be removed (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318144.0) is visible to all, but only forum administration can write there.
I understand that there are discussions in which you don't want other ordinary forum users, but isn't it logical that threads like that should be hidden?
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: notblox1 on February 23, 2024, 12:23:34 AM
I understand that there are discussions in which you don't want other ordinary forum users, but isn't it logical that threads like that should be hidden?
All related posts should be sent to archive as admin confirmed that KYC in forum was just a failed experiment.
Nobody is interested to continue talking about this subject anymore but it is strange to see topics that dont look locked but you cant reply anything  ;D

Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: SamReomo on February 23, 2024, 03:28:28 AM
Yeah, I also noticed that I can't post on that thread. It's most probably limited to few people only but I'm happy to see that at least we can read that post. I noticed that it was basically about the misuse of KYC thing and admin disabled KYC for the good of the forum because people were misusing it and it turned out to be a bad experiment.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Yamane_Keto on February 23, 2024, 03:46:30 AM
Because it is Forum Announcements, It's a board dedicated to announcements and not discussions just like bitcointalk Important Announcements
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on February 23, 2024, 03:14:57 PM
Because it is Forum Announcements, It's a board dedicated to announcements and not discussions just like bitcointalk Important Announcements

But some users still discuss there.
For example, the moderator closed a very similar thread that could have been discussed. KYC on this forum  (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317999.0)

So, I understand what is happening here, but I do not understand the concept where the same topic is closed because it has become unnecessary, but in the limited part it is still being discussed and visible to everyone.

Of course, this is not a major thing that should take up anyone's time, I'm just curious about some of the principles on this forum.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Yamane_Keto on February 24, 2024, 12:59:18 AM
But some users still discuss there.
I think there should be a hidden mods board, and after the decision is made, it is announced in that board.

The Vice President/President's dissatisfaction with the decision on the announcement page gives the impression of lack of coordination, so it is preferable for these discussions to be hidden and specific ranks that can see it.
Everyone can discuss the decision here.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Jokers on February 24, 2024, 01:18:40 PM
For example, the moderator closed a very similar thread that could have been discussed. KYC on this forum  (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317999.0)

I closed the topic because it became outdated. And not to mislead others, because KYC is a very sensitive thing, and since it is removed better to discuss it in the topic about that it is over. ???

I think there should be a hidden mods board, and after the decision is made, it is announced in that board.

The Vice President/President's dissatisfaction with the decision on the announcement page gives the impression of lack of coordination, so it is preferable for these discussions to be hidden and specific ranks that can see it.
Everyone can discuss the decision here.

This decision should't be hidden, because it affects many users who had different types of KYC badge. So it is important for them to know that these badges are officially over and there's no bug in that they are not displayed anymore.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on February 25, 2024, 11:28:39 PM
I closed the topic because it became outdated. And not to mislead others, because KYC is a very sensitive thing, and since it is removed better to discuss it in the topic about that it is over. ???

This whole matter is not my complaint, I have nothing against concluding the discussion to which we have already received an answer. However, I still learned more about the reasons and what is enough for someone to give their personal information.

Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on February 26, 2024, 12:34:38 PM
This whole matter is not my complaint, I have nothing against concluding the discussion to which we have already received an answer. However, I still learned more about the reasons and what is enough for someone to give their personal information.
It seems certain level of members can post on the topic you listed in your OP. User Freemind was not an admin but I can see he has a post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318144.msg1504073#msg1504073) there but for me, as a Legend member, I have no option to reply there.

Not complaining by the way, it seems a board for specific ranks like we have in Ivory tower [if I am correct].
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Freemind on February 26, 2024, 08:07:25 PM
It seems certain level of members can post on the topic you listed in your OP. User Freemind was not an admin but I can see he has a post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318144.msg1504073#msg1504073) there but for me, as a Legend member, I have no option to reply there.

Not complaining by the way, it seems a board for specific ranks like we have in Ivory tower [if I am correct].

You're right, I'm not an administrator, but I am a global moderator, that's why I was able to post in that thread. As @Jokers says there is nothing to hide so it can be perfectly visible to all forum users, since I suppose that if the post had been hidden, some users might have asked what happened, or if there had been a data leak or if the martians were attacking us, or... People sometimes have a lot of imagination :o

I think it was the right decision to remove the KYC option from the forum, it is best for everyone.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on February 28, 2024, 12:11:58 PM
I think it was the right decision to remove the KYC option from the forum, it is best for everyone.
I used to see the title KYC verified a few weeks ago, I don't know if it is still there. A few weeks ago I received a PM from one of the forum member too for something about joining pink group [or something else] and do KYC verification. It was more like a suggestion rather than highly recommending and influencing to do such thing.

This should be an anonymous place. At-least with crypto I am more comfortable to stay anonymous.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on February 28, 2024, 12:17:44 PM
I used to see the title KYC verified a few weeks ago, I don't know if it is still there.

As far as I understand, a group of accounts that were under the control of one person was recognized. Several accounts from there were KYC verified. After the misuse was recognized, the admin checked the KYC and it turned out that he had submitted the information of the grandmother, mother, sister... This made the KYC thing meaningless here and that's why it was removed.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Jokers on February 28, 2024, 12:35:00 PM
This should be an anonymous place. At-least with crypto I am more comfortable to stay anonymous.

Even before removing, KYC was never mandatory on the forum. It was just an additional option only for those who wanted to have some opportunities. I'm here for more than 5 years and I never passed any KYC and would never do, and that didn't make my presence here anyhow harder. I was okay without any KYC badges. ;)
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Freemind on February 28, 2024, 08:47:31 PM
I used to see the title KYC verified a few weeks ago, I don't know if it is still there. A few weeks ago I received a PM from one of the forum member too for something about joining pink group [or something else] and do KYC verification. It was more like a suggestion rather than highly recommending and influencing to do such thing.

This should be an anonymous place. At-least with crypto I am more comfortable to stay anonymous.

I think you mean the crypto girls club. In any case, and as I have already mentioned on occasion, KYC was totally optional, no one had any obligation to do KYC. However, as you say, this should be an anonymous site. But everyone thinks differently and someone may not mind doing it. I still think that eliminating KYC is the best, this way we avoid possible problems of different types and the administrator has one less thing to worry about.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 01, 2024, 10:04:50 AM
After the misuse was recognized, the admin checked the KYC and it turned out that he had submitted the information of the grandmother, mother, sister...
So he made all these accounts legally legal LOL. I am not sure if this forum is under the surveillance of investigative enthusiast members like we have in bitcointalk. If there are then it will not be easy to find alt accounts who are misusing common rules like can not join one signature with more than one account and things like that.

Even before removing, KYC was never mandatory on the forum. It was just an additional option only for those who wanted to have some opportunities. I'm here for more than 5 years and I never passed any KYC and would never do, and that didn't make my presence here anyhow harder. I was okay without any KYC badges. ;)
I get that it's an optional badge like many others. I had time a few days ago to check the types of badges and none of the things looked too attractive to have but people have different choices of course.

I think you mean the crypto girls club.
Correct and I was offered to join the club LOL
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 02, 2024, 09:47:12 PM
I've seen it before, but I didn't expect it to be a regular practice here.
So, for example, thread KYC verified badge to be removed (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318144.0) is visible to all, but only forum administration can write there.
I understand that there are discussions in which you don't want other ordinary forum users, but isn't it logical that threads like that should be hidden?
I don't think these types of threads should be hidden, because if the admin has to hide it, then why does he have to make it in the first place, this thread serves the purpose of news, announcement, knowledge, a information that the users of this forum has to be known of. Therefore he made that thread and made it public, but did not allow anyone to post on it.

Why? That's totally the authority of the admin, he might don't want anyone to comment on this post, as its only a announcement and admin needs no ones review, or opinion on it, he is sharing us with an update, and that's why he made that topic public, You don't have to feel so offensive with admin's this post, I don't know if there is any other reasons, but chill and enjoy the update.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on March 04, 2024, 02:42:16 PM
I've seen it before, but I didn't expect it to be a regular practice here.
So, for example, thread KYC verified badge to be removed (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318144.0) is visible to all, but only forum administration can write there.
I understand that there are discussions in which you don't want other ordinary forum users, but isn't it logical that threads like that should be hidden?
I don't think these types of threads should be hidden, because if the admin has to hide it, then why does he have to make it in the first place, this thread serves the purpose of news, announcement, knowledge, a information that the users of this forum has to be known of. Therefore he made that thread and made it public, but did not allow anyone to post on it.

It seems that you did not understand well what I wrote, so it seems that you made a completely wrong comment here. A certain group (several of them) of members can still write in such threads, while everyone else can only read.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 08, 2024, 08:38:01 PM
It seems that you did not understand well what I wrote, so it seems that you made a completely wrong comment here. A certain group (several of them) of members can still write in such threads, while everyone else can only read.
Ahhh, I got the point but before did not get the intentions, which was basically about why administrations can post there, instead I got the context that you are interested to know why we (normal members) can't post in that thread. Sorry for the inconvenience, as I take another meaning of your post. Well, considering your intention, I must say that's not right. As not only the administration has done KYC and earned KYC badges. Many others also have done that.

But how do you so sure that only the administration can post there, as I can see only mods have posted there which almost proves your statement, but it can be a case that only those can post there who got KYC badge, but only some members made reply on this thread, and it happens to be a coincidence that all those members are mods, or linked to administration. Just a thought.

But if this is not the case, and really administration can post there then I don't think there is a need to make such thread publically available. But I think they don't have the feature to hide thread yet.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on March 08, 2024, 10:18:14 PM
But how do you so sure that only the administration can post there, as I can see only mods have posted there which almost proves your statement

Moderators belong to the forum administration group.  So, mods=administration ;)
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 09, 2024, 09:09:39 PM
But how do you so sure that only the administration can post there, as I can see only mods have posted there which almost proves your statement

Moderators belong to the forum administration group.  So, mods=administration ;)
:P :P :P I know the difference and meaning of the words, lol I was trying to consider another possibility, that I uttered in my case in the last reply to you. I know the line you have quoted is giving the meaning that I don't know the meaning of both, but I do. It's just that I was not able to convey the message completely or you don't.

I was trying to say, that only the mods, and administrations have posted there, which can be a coincidence, so you might have concluded after seeing that only mods can post there, while there might be a possibility that all KYC badge holders could post there, As I have seen that we (with no badge) can't post there, but it might be a possibility for KYC badge holders. Overall, I agree with you that if the admins/mods are allowed to post their, then it should be discussed somewhere else, or should remain, hidden but that's not a big problem at all, you can start a topic on this and people can discuss this matter there.
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: Jokers on March 10, 2024, 12:39:41 PM
I was trying to say, that only the mods, and administrations have posted there, which can be a coincidence, so you might have concluded after seeing that only mods can post there, while there might be a possibility that all KYC badge holders could post there, As I have seen that we (with no badge) can't post there, but it might be a possibility for KYC badge holders.

Try to read the same news again. All KYC related badges were revoked and the news was just about that. There are no users with KYC badges on the forum since then anymore.

And no, not all moderators can post something in the announcement section. As we can see, there were posts just from admin, the President and the Vice President. ???
Title: Re: Limited threads but still visible. Why?
Post by: examplens on March 11, 2024, 10:13:59 PM
Try to read the same news again. All KYC related badges were revoked and the news was just about that. There are no users with KYC badges on the forum since then anymore.

And no, not all moderators can post something in the announcement section. As we can see, there were posts just from admin, the President and the Vice President. ???

@Jokers, maybe you can lock this topic. We mostly got the most important answers, as far as I noticed, the admin accepted the hidden message of this discussion, and later he opened some specific discussions out of the visibility of the rest of the forum.