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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Crypto currency Mining => Topic started by: Husires on March 05, 2024, 03:58:58 PM

Title: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Husires on March 05, 2024, 03:58:58 PM
In the past period, I noticed the difficulty of making a good profit from mining some altcoins. If we ignore LTC and Doge, the return from mining a lot of altcoins has become more difficult than in the past. I have about  (850MH 690W) *3 , which is about 2550 MH, and I used to get a return of about $6 per day from mining some altcoins. But now it has become difficult to get $2, so what do you think about the future of altcoin mining?
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: ABCbits on March 06, 2024, 12:18:24 PM
With new altcoin avoiding PoW and there aren't many existing PoW altcoin with strong community or uniqueness, i'd assume altcoin mining would be less attractive in the future. If we look at https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/proof-of-work-pow (https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/proof-of-work-pow), there are only 9 PoW coins in top 100 and 37 PoW coins in top 1000.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Rex067 on March 21, 2024, 02:56:03 AM
In the past period, I noticed the difficulty of making a good profit from mining some altcoins. If we ignore LTC and Doge, the return from mining a lot of altcoins has become more difficult than in the past. I have about  (850MH 690W) *3 , which is about 2550 MH, and I used to get a return of about $6 per day from mining some altcoins. But now it has become difficult to get $2, so what do you think about the future of altcoin mining?

The future of pow mining altcoin is something else. However there are lots of alternative coin which use different mechanism, such as proof of stake. Most people believe that POW mining will continue to increase in profit in a long term.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Husires on March 23, 2024, 01:29:05 PM
With new altcoin avoiding PoW and there aren't many existing PoW altcoin with strong community or uniqueness, i'd assume altcoin mining would be less attractive in the future. If we look at https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/proof-of-work-pow (https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/proof-of-work-pow), there are only 9 PoW coins in top 100 and 37 PoW coins in top 1000.
Many of them are bitcoinForks and the rest have low hashrates that make renting nicehash a good amount of money to perform a 51% double spend attack.
will try my luck with KAS
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: philipma1957 on April 09, 2024, 03:06:44 AM
I am mining raven coin with a lot of gpus. Basically I am breakeven  will slowly sell cards off as time passes.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: KingsDen on April 18, 2024, 01:56:34 PM
The future of POW altcoin mining
I have e known PoW for bitcoin while PoS for altcoins. It is a matter of time and every altcoins will migrate to PoS. It was same with BTC where 50BTC was the reward with a lesser energy and what about it today. Solo miners are no longer profitable. Altcoins cannot withstand this but will soon change protocols to PoS.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 22, 2024, 10:51:33 PM
I have e known PoW for bitcoin while PoS for altcoins. It is a matter of time and every altcoins will migrate to PoS. It was same with BTC where 50BTC was the reward with a lesser energy and what about it today. Solo miners are no longer profitable. Altcoins cannot withstand this but will soon change protocols to PoS.
I don't think ALTS will switch to POS anytime soon because we still have ETC/ETHW - blockchains that are thriving based on POW. My friends are still mining ETC/ETHW and making a decent profit. Other POW coins are also very popular like DOGE, LTC, XMR - I believe thay they will not switch to POS.

A new POW project called Kaspa has seen an impressive price increase for the KAS token, confirming the strong presence of POW in the crypto market. POS has an energy advantage, but decentralization is a complex issue, and even the Ethereum Foundation is looking to address this issue as LSD and LRD become more popular.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: electronicash on April 22, 2024, 11:23:04 PM
I have e known PoW for bitcoin while PoS for altcoins. It is a matter of time and every altcoins will migrate to PoS. It was same with BTC where 50BTC was the reward with a lesser energy and what about it today. Solo miners are no longer profitable. Altcoins cannot withstand this but will soon change protocols to PoS.
I don't think ALTS will switch to POS anytime soon because we still have ETC/ETHW - blockchains that are thriving based on POW. My friends are still mining ETC/ETHW and making a decent profit. Other POW coins are also very popular like DOGE, LTC, XMR - I believe thay they will not switch to POS.

A new POW project called Kaspa has seen an impressive price increase for the KAS token, confirming the strong presence of POW in the crypto market. POS has an energy advantage, but decentralization is a complex issue, and even the Ethereum Foundation is looking to address this issue as LSD and LRD become more popular.

KAS rocketed to $0.14 few months ago. i hurried to buy some of it but after that it slowly just going down. i learned the coin actually existed since 2020 and there were lots of people mining already that time. not sure how big the community acutally.

but these days investors are asking the use case of the coin before investing. that's why POW altcoins sometimes are not very attractive to investors. if it were like ETH which has smart contract and can be mined as well. i think there will be demand.



Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on May 30, 2024, 10:11:42 AM
Argentina's state-owned company YPF Luz has started mining BTC using excess gas from oil fields - together with Genesis Digital Assets Limited (GDA) they have built a 7 megawatt facility with 1,200 mining devices.

Source link: https://genesisdigitalassets.com/gda-partners-with-ypf-luz-to-launch-a-bitcoin-mining-center-in-argentina-powered-with-repurposed-flared-gas

(https://i.ibb.co/zZZmrzQ/Screenshot-5.png)
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on June 02, 2024, 01:32:20 PM
Texas Senator Ted Cruzhas revealed that he bought 3 Bitcoin miners - and is now proud to join the ranks of Texas miners. Cruz previously admitted to being a Bitcoin investor, buying BTCon Monday mornings.

P.S. It's great to read news like this - if only states would realize the actual value in mining and t.c. They're just waiting for something to happen.  ;D

News link:
https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1796660168781955314

(https://i.ibb.co/hBVqdTw/photo-2024-06-02-13-56-51.jpg)
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: paid2 on June 02, 2024, 02:57:53 PM
@NikeFit_7777 I think your last 2 replies here aren't in the good topic, which is "The future of POW altcoin mining" :)
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 02, 2024, 10:46:31 PM
KAS rocketed to $0.14 few months ago. i hurried to buy some of it but after that it slowly just going down. i learned the coin actually existed since 2020 and there were lots of people mining already that time. not sure how big the community acutally.

but these days investors are asking the use case of the coin before investing. that's why POW altcoins sometimes are not very attractive to investors. if it were like ETH which has smart contract and can be mined as well. i think there will be demand.
KAS has experienced impressive growth, indirectly confirming that POW tokens still have the potential to bring profits to investors in this cycle. The POW or POS consensus protocol only changes the way block rewards or transaction fees are distributed, and does not affect the ability to apply smart contracts. Ethereum previously also used POW and was very popular, ETH price also grew strongly in the bullruns 2017 & 2021.

Currently, we have to admit that POS has become too popular because it is easy to deploy, they are more environmentally friendly and do not require powerful hardware like POW but only require validators to have enough native token to stake and a minimum hardware to confirm transactions. I don't think POW will disappear soon but POS is clearly dominating.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Vision pro on August 20, 2024, 01:29:56 AM
I don't know much about it, but I'm taking some comments from those who have commented here. The future of Altcoin mining is challenging, but there are still opportunities to make a profit.  The ability to quickly adapt to new strategies, innovations and market changes will be critical to maintaining profitable mining.  Research PoS and other models as alternatives to PoW mining, as the cryptocurrency sector moves toward more environmentally friendly and efficient consent processes.  You may finally understand what I mean.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: NotATether on August 22, 2024, 02:37:32 PM
Maybe the value of the altcoins you are mining just had their prices slashed and that is what's causing the profitability decline?

That seems like the most plausible situation for me.

The thing is, people are not really making mineable PoW coins that become big anymore, with the exception of privacy coins, so we'll just have to wait and see if the next BTC bull run brings up the other altcoins.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: B.Trader on September 01, 2024, 01:08:32 AM
Maybe the value of the altcoins you are mining just had their prices slashed and that is what's causing the profitability decline?

That seems like the most plausible situation for me.

The thing is, people are not really making mineable PoW coins that become big anymore, with the exception of privacy coins, so we'll just have to wait and see if the next BTC bull run brings up the other altcoins.
the potential impact of declining altcoin prices on mining profitability. When the value of the coins being mined drops, it can drastically reduce the returns from mining, especially if the mining difficulty remains high. This scenario is common during bear markets, where altcoin prices can be heavily slashed, making it less profitable or even unprofitable for miners to continue their operations.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: BitMaxz on September 06, 2024, 01:42:25 PM
I've mined ETH before and ravencoin I can mine daily and earn around $30 in a single rig with 8 to 10 GPUs sometimes more than that if I remember correctly the time that I started mining is when after block halving I don't know the exact date until I decided to buy ASICs s9 and including D3 but the problem at that time BTC slowly drops I thought that I could ROI in 3 months but s9 takes 1-2 years after it arrive and the D3 makes me negative profit I just sold s9 after a year and I tried to sell D3 but no one wants to buy it.

It's not altcoin season yet so don't lose hope today is not profitable but after altcoin season I believe we will see improvement in profitability.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Bobcrypto on September 07, 2024, 09:38:00 PM
In the past period, I noticed the difficulty of making a good profit from mining some altcoins. If we ignore LTC and Doge, the return from mining a lot of altcoins has become more difficult than in the past. I have about  (850MH 690W) *3 , which is about 2550 MH, and I used to get a return of about $6 per day from mining some altcoins. But now it has become difficult to get $2, so what do you think about the future of altcoin mining?

The future of pow mining altcoin is something else. However there are lots of alternative coin which use different mechanism, such as proof of stake. Most people believe that POW mining will continue to increase in profit in a long term.

I also think that Proof of stake (POS) mining has almost overtaken Proof of Work(POW) mining this days, and I am still wondering whether mining rewards for Pow coins will ever increase in future because if rewards continues to decrease, miners may become uninterested since mining POW coins becomes unprofitable.
I am certain that many miners may switch to POS coins in near future since it does not require long computational power to mine POS coins.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Stompix on September 08, 2024, 02:34:10 PM
I am certain that many miners may switch to POS coins in near future since it does not require long computational power to mine POS coins.

This is like saying coal miners will turn to forex trading in search of new revenue opportunities.

Anyhhow, mining altcoins and getting a profit with it is at this point daydreaming, the amount of computational power on the side that can be powered at any time to mine a profitable coin would turn every major profit into pennies in a matter of days, the coin would need to bring back tens of millions from miner revenues, where is that insane cashflow going to come from?
The more people you have knowing about mining, the more GPUs available for mining the less revenue per unit you will get, and that's why we're here counting cents in income per day.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Findingnemo on September 18, 2024, 07:25:36 PM
Less PoW altcoins resulted into GPU miners switching to mine these coins cause they have no other choice lead to increased difficulty so less rewards and if the trend follows there is no potential for revenue generation for a miner or it can even become less profitable than your electricity consumption so it's better find alternatives or there should be breakthrough in altcoins that send the prices of the specific coins to the moon will results into the compesation.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Rami on October 07, 2024, 05:13:20 PM
It sounds like you’re facing some tough times with mining! The profitability of mining can definitely fluctuate based on a lot of factors, like network difficulty and coin value. As more miners join the game, it can get tougher to see those returns.

Looking ahead, I think the future of altcoin mining will depend on a few things: the overall market trends, the development of new technologies, and how different coins adapt to the changing landscape. Some altcoins might find ways to improve their mining efficiency or offer better rewards, so it could be worth keeping an eye on emerging projects.

In the meantime, you might want to consider diversifying your mining efforts or even exploring other ways to earn from crypto, like staking or yield farming. Just keep experimenting and stay informed!
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 17, 2024, 07:20:34 PM
Less PoW altcoins resulted into GPU miners switching to mine these coins cause they have no other choice lead to increased difficulty so less rewards and if the trend follows there is no potential for revenue generation for a miner or it can even become less profitable than your electricity consumption so it's better find alternatives or there should be breakthrough in altcoins that send the prices of the specific coins to the moon will results into the compesation.
POW miners commonly employ software that optimizes returns by autonomously pinpointing POW coins offering the most lucrative mining rewards. Should mining operations become unprofitable due to expenses related to hardware, labor, facilities, and electricity, mining rigs are programmed to automatically suspend operations until conditions improve.

I am confident that through innovative tools, miners can remain proactive in their endeavors. Given their significant investments in mining equipment, these individuals possess ample resources to sustain themselves and maintain a comfortable lifestyle, even if the specific POW tokens they're mining fail to achieve substantial gains within this cycle.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Findingnemo on October 17, 2024, 07:52:50 PM

I am confident that through innovative tools, miners can remain proactive in their endeavors. Given their significant investments in mining equipment, these individuals possess ample resources to sustain themselves and maintain a comfortable lifestyle, even if the specific POW tokens they're mining fail to achieve substantial gains within this cycle.

But the market has shifted from PoW to PoS for years now and there are very few PoW based coins are there now means more miners came into the picture then it's definitely going to hit the potential revenue generation that's why it's not really smart choice to invest on miners in 2024 even for ASICs to mine Bitcoin, it's better if they simply invest and follow buy low and sell high repeatedly.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: ABCbits on October 18, 2024, 12:21:30 PM
POW miners commonly employ software that optimizes returns by autonomously pinpointing POW coins offering the most lucrative mining rewards. Should mining operations become unprofitable due to expenses related to hardware, labor, facilities, and electricity, mining rigs are programmed to automatically suspend operations until conditions improve.

Unless you refer to NiceHash or similar software which pay you in fiat/major coin, it's not as good as you may expect. There's risk price of the coin going down between when you mine and sell it. In addition, unpopular PoW coin may only listed on exchange website you don't use.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Stompix on October 18, 2024, 12:37:25 PM
I am confident that through innovative tools, miners can remain proactive in their endeavors. Given their significant investments in mining equipment, these individuals possess ample resources to sustain themselves and maintain a comfortable lifestyle, even if the specific POW tokens they're mining fail to achieve substantial gains within this cycle.

No, they can't and that's why you had millions of GPU cards flooding the market when ETF went to PoS.
Miners can make all the improvements they want if the reward for mining Pow Coins is $1000 a day that's what they will get and nobody is going to make any further investments over pennies, mining altcoins is a dead business, the only tiny sparkle left is doge, but that's already ASIC dominated.

From 30-40 million in rewards a day with ETH I went now to barely 2 million, and excluding LTC-DOGE merge mining you can count those in the hundreds, altcoin mining is dead, and nobody is keen on reviving it.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: bitcoin-shark on November 07, 2024, 10:36:52 PM
Unfortunately, given the trend of the new altcoins towards the POS, only those with low-cost or zero-cost energy will continue to benefit from the POW which will increasingly decrease
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: CoinHolder on December 22, 2024, 12:33:08 AM
future of altcoin mining?
The mining system that underpins many older cryptocurrencies, including Bitcoin, may face some challenges in the future, but it is unlikely to be completely eliminated. While the future of PoW altcoin mining may face some challenges, it is not a complete disappearance. New technologies, energy-efficient methods, and increased decentralization of mining could make PoW mining operations more sustainable and secure. However, how popular and sustainable this system becomes will largely depend on how supportive government regulations and market conditions are.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2025, 02:09:44 AM
Right now sha-256 and scrypt are the only good pows  you can turn profits with 10 cent power.

My gpu mining is shrinking more and more as I focus on BTC ,LTC,Doge
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 12, 2025, 08:26:18 AM
As of today, it seems Aleo mining will be a thing for a year or so. Goldshel is about to release a new ASIC miner in June this year, and the profitability is about $19 today, according to asicminervalue https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/goldshell/e-ae1m

However, as we know, these are estimated, and the real value could change when the miner is on the market. The mining difficulty will increase significantly, and profitability will drop significantly. Yet, I think it won't take more than a year to give you ROI. Also, if you have access to cheap electricity, you will be able to get a fast return.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: BitMaxz on April 13, 2025, 08:08:07 PM
As of today, it seems Aleo mining will be a thing for a year or so. Goldshel is about to release a new ASIC miner in June this year, and the profitability is about $19 today, according to asicminervalue https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/goldshell/e-ae1m

However, as we know, these are estimated, and the real value could change when the miner is on the market. The mining difficulty will increase significantly, and profitability will drop significantly. Yet, I think it won't take more than a year to give you ROI. Also, if you have access to cheap electricity, you will be able to get a fast return.

Those units from goldshel are actually profitable, but once people receive their units, the profitability gradually decreases, which is not good for the long term. The coin you can mine with this unit is ALEO, which is not yet listed on any well-known exchange. So investing in this unit is risky because the coin could die later. If you have cheap electricity, I recommend purchasing a scrypt or sha256 unit, which are much safer and more reliable in the long run.
 
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 14, 2025, 12:43:18 PM
If you have cheap electricity, I recommend purchasing a scrypt or sha256 unit, which are much safer and more reliable in the long run.

The problem is that the electricity cost is high here. This is not the main problem. Any kind of crypto mining is banned in my country. So, I cannot really import any ASIC miners. But I saw some people imported some ASIC miners here. I don't really know how they did it. Probably they mentioned it as a room heater or something else. I don't understand how else they can import any ASIC's here. Or there is a possibility they imported those miners in a illegal way.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Stompix on April 17, 2025, 03:26:46 PM
As of today, it seems Aleo mining will be a thing for a year or so. Goldshel is about to release a new ASIC miner in June this year, and the profitability is about $19 today, according to asicminervalue https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/goldshell/e-ae1m

It was over $75 a few months ago, and the coin is not performing at all after the fomo of being the new Kaspa, it's down about -97%  ;D
Probably the same tactic, launch a pow coin, pump it to the sky, have an already built asic standing by, sell that also, repeat.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 17, 2025, 03:34:11 PM
It was over $75 a few months ago, and the coin is not performing at all after the fomo of being the new Kaspa, it's down about -97%  ;D
Probably the same tactic, launch a pow coin, pump it to the sky, have an already built asic standing by, sell that also, repeat.

I feel like those ASIC miners are behind those altcoins. They just create a new coin, then release some ASIC miners that can be used to mine these coins, and the market dumps gradually, and the profitability decreases once those miners join the network. That could be a business strategy for them. But we don't know if they are reallyng this shit.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: philipma1957 on April 18, 2025, 09:50:20 PM
Only scrypt is viable and been viable for a l I no longer long ltime.

Mostly because the hash rate is huge. The values are high and pump and dump would be too costly to do.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 19, 2025, 12:43:30 PM
Only scrypt is viable and been viable for a l I no longer long time.
I did not understand this line. You probably wrote from your mobile, which is why it's messed up.

I just checked that at least 11 coins can be mined through ASIC miners that can mine the Scrypt algorithm. I don't know which coin gives the most profit, but it seems Doge and Litecoin are the most popular coins that miners mine with their ASICS. It seems like DOGE is the most profitable among the other Scrypt algo minable coins.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: ABCbits on April 20, 2025, 11:34:11 AM
Only scrypt is viable and been viable for a l I no longer long time.
I did not understand this line. You probably wrote from your mobile, which is why it's messed up.

I just checked that at least 11 coins can be mined through ASIC miners that can mine the Scrypt algorithm. I don't know which coin gives the most profit, but it seems Doge and Litecoin are the most popular coins that miners mine with their ASICS. It seems like DOGE is the most profitable among the other Scrypt algo minable coins.

To be exact, you can mine LTC and DOGE at same time with Scrypt ASIC. It's possible due to merged mining mechanics, which is reason some website says LTC+DOGE mining.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 20, 2025, 12:15:12 PM
To be exact, you can mine LTC and DOGE at same time with Scrypt ASIC. It's possible due to merged mining mechanics, which is reason some website says LTC+DOGE mining.

Yeah, I knew that. But since I am not a miner, I don't know how it actually works.
As I can see, Doge is the most profitable coin to mine with Scrypt ASIC's and I think the merged mining won't drop the profitability. I checked a specific model yesterday that is able to mine 66 Doge a day, and when it comes to LTC, it can mine only 0.017 LTC, which is too low. I assume the Miners prefer Doge first and then LTC.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Cornpetitor on April 22, 2025, 01:35:34 PM
Hiya guys!

I have an opportunity to get two Bitmain Antminer L7 for "pennies on the dollar." I know that's 2021-2022 mining equipment in question, but does it make sense to give it a go in relation to Scrypt ASIC mining, more so since I have solar panels and energy stored in batteries as a buffer?

I feel like the math is mathing, but still, I feel like that's not a good reason to take them.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: ABCbits on April 25, 2025, 11:55:10 AM
Hiya guys!

I have an opportunity to get two Bitmain Antminer L7 for "pennies on the dollar." I know that's 2021-2022 mining equipment in question, but does it make sense to give it a go in relation to Scrypt ASIC mining, more so since I have solar panels and energy stored in batteries as a buffer?

I feel like the math is mathing, but still, I feel like that's not a good reason to take them.

Without more details, we can't give good suggestion. For example,
1. What is exact price for each of Antminer L7?
2. How long those L7 can run on solar panel, considering sunny hours on place you live and amount of electricity can be stored?
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Stompix on April 25, 2025, 04:21:09 PM
As I can see, Doge is the most profitable coin to mine with Scrypt ASIC's and I think the merged mining won't drop the profitability. I checked a specific model yesterday that is able to mine 66 Doge a day, and when it comes to LTC, it can mine only 0.017 LTC, which is too low. I assume the Miners prefer Doge first and then LTC.

You don't mine Doge or LTC, you mine DOGE+LTC.
That's why LTC hashrate is 2.36 Phash/s and Doge is 2.44 Phash/s despite LTC's daily reward being 300k compared to 2.4 million for Doge.



Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 26, 2025, 03:20:42 PM
You don't mine Doge or LTC, you mine DOGE+LTC.
That's why LTC hashrate is 2.36 Phash/s and Doge is 2.44 Phash/s despite LTC's daily reward being 300k compared to 2.4 million for Doge.

I got it. Yeah, I understand that part, as Phil also explained in one of his posts. So even if LTC is not profitable, people still mine it because they don't need an extra machine to do so. They do merge mining, and all the LTC reward comes as a bonus with Dogecoin mining. So yeah, I understand that part clearly.
Title: Re: The future of POW altcoin mining
Post by: Stompix on April 26, 2025, 03:54:46 PM
So even if LTC is not profitable, people still mine it because they don't need an extra machine to do so. They do merge mining, and all the LTC reward comes as a bonus with Dogecoin mining.

This is the thing, it's not that simple..
For example, if LTC were to go to zero, it would also affect DOGE hashrate, it would go down by the % the LTC reward is in.
Let's assume DOGE gets killed, LTC will just survive with how much hashrate they can get with their reward.

Both of them are profitable, it's much like real mining, mining just the iron can be only slightly profitable, but the by-products like cobalt can be the difference between keeping the mine alive or not.

The thing overcomplicated itself over long run since LTC is a fixed supply while Doge is not...