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Title: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 12, 2024, 11:13:30 AM
Stresse.ru's (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=313166.0) signature campaign thread has been open on this forum since December 13 2023 but the OP hasn't accepted anyone into the campaign. Many users have applied in that campaign and even till this day a few users are applying in that thread but seems like OP of the thread isn't interested in accepting anyone into the campaign.

Another thing I must stress about Stresse.ru is that the tool is intended for the DDoS purpose which isn't decent by any means and I believe admin should remove that campaign from the forum and may not allow promotion of software or products that could be harmful.

I believe the thread should be locked or deleted and it's my humble request to admin, president and moderators to take some action.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: admin on March 12, 2024, 11:19:56 AM
i think president should check this
also do reply directly to post in question, to get answers from bounty manager
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 12, 2024, 11:24:22 AM
i think president should check this
also do reply directly to post in question, to get answers from bounty manager
I have replied to the thread and suggested other members to stop posting applications in that thread because the manager isn't accepting anyone's application.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: paid2 on March 12, 2024, 11:29:21 AM
This may be an attempt of strategy from the manager?: some of the candidates in this campaign could wear the signature while they wait to find out whether or not they've been accepted, and this gives him so much free publicity for the time being. Well, that's just in theory, because after looking at the topic mentionned by OP, of course nobody has kept the signature because there are other active campaigns.

But the principle remains valid: delaying the recruitment of a campaign could be used for free advertising.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Jokers on March 12, 2024, 11:42:32 AM
Another thing I must stress about Stresse.ru is that the tool is intended for the DDoS purpose which isn't decent by any means and I believe admin should remove that campaign from the forum and may not allow promotion of software or products that could be harmful.

They say they don't, they say that they are providing just a service for testing for clients' own web projects to work in hard conditions. But I never checked if it is so. And I don't like the idea of their promotion on our forum as well. IMO we should better avoid such type of campaigns on our forum. But well, let's wait for the President's decision, as admin said.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 12, 2024, 12:56:55 PM
They say they don't, they say that they are providing just a service for testing for clients' own web projects to work in hard conditions. But I never checked if it is so. And I don't like the idea of their promotion on our forum as well. IMO we should better avoid such type of campaigns on our forum. But well, let's wait for the President's decision, as admin said.
I think they are trying to hide their malicious intentions because we all know that such service is always misused by the attackers and they won't be able to stop the attackers from using their service if they pay for it.

I highly agree with you that such kind of promotions should not be allowed on this forum. I'm very sure that after finding this thread, the president will also take proper action. It's for the good of the forum and I believe president will always take steps to make the forum a better place for everyone.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 12, 2024, 01:08:25 PM
i think president should check this
also do reply directly to post in question, to get answers from bounty manager
I have replied to the thread and suggested other members to stop posting applications in that thread because the manager isn't accepting anyone's application.
As far as I remember that campaign thread was locked since last year and I found that thread on the bounties & rewards section when it was created. It has not been getting any attention by that time. Maybe it was only recently open to officially start the campaign which is maybe why they haven't accepted any participants yet since last year, but the fact that there are no announcements, it's hard to confirm this information.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: examplens on March 12, 2024, 01:10:35 PM
I believe that many are grateful that mixers are accepted on the Altcoinstalks forum, it is necessary for the crypto community. However, a line should be drawn somewhere and this forum should not be pushed to the dark side by allowing the promotion of everything.
This should not be a place for black-label tools, hacking or anything similar and we don't need negative attention here, after all the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrencies.

I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: TomPluz on March 12, 2024, 01:21:45 PM
I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.

I am also for the deletion of the thread as this is not serving any purpose here since it is not anyway accepting any of the signature applicants. We should only allow those that are really legit and we should not allow promotion of any platform that can be doubtful. I have seen the thread and on first glance I have this impression that there can be something wrong with the post. Good to see OP taking the initiative of discussing such a post.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 12, 2024, 01:52:03 PM
This should not be a place for black-label tools, hacking or anything similar and we don't need negative attention here, after all the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrencies.

I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.
Very true, that's why I believe admin, president, and other moderators should think about that thread and delete it altogether. In fact, whatever you said is 100% true and is for the betterment of the forum. All of the campaigns that have negative element in them should be deleted from this forum no matter if they pay the members more than $100 per week.

That campaign and all campaigns which are similar to that one shouldn't be allowed on this forum, and even their announcement threads should not be allowed. We want a forum that should be a better place for crypto users, not a forum that should be a place for hackers and scammers. Such tools are created for the hackers and their advertisement should not be allowed here.

Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: bitmover on March 12, 2024, 03:51:49 PM
This should not be a place for black-label tools, hacking or anything similar and we don't need negative attention here, after all the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrencies.

I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.
Very true, that's why I believe admin, president, and other moderators should think about that thread and delete it altogether. In fact, whatever you said is 100% true and is for the betterment of the forum. All of the campaigns that have negative element in them should be deleted from this forum no matter if they pay the members more than $100 per week.

That campaign and all campaigns which are similar to that one shouldn't be allowed on this forum, and even their announcement threads should not be allowed. We want a forum that should be a better place for crypto users, not a forum that should be a place for hackers and scammers. Such tools are created for the hackers and their advertisement should not be allowed here.


Highly agree.

Services like this one are making the internet more centralized.

Ddos attacks are bad for everyone. In the end, most websites are forced to move to Cloudflare and AWS or other big companies because no one can stand against such attacks all the time.

And those companies, the only ones which are able to protect a website against Ddos, are very invasive and do not respect anyone's privacy.

This service is an enemy of the internet freedom and privacy.

You are correct SamReomo. +1 for you.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: bitbit97 on March 12, 2024, 04:11:01 PM
Here is what we can do. We can use shops feature «Lock anyone's topic >> Be able to lock anyone's topic. >>> Burn 100$ worth of ALTT token (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315406.0)».

But for the situation not to look like a hijack, reputation harm, lynching and etc, we could make a term - week of discussion, wait for OP response. If there is no response from Stresse, ask mods/admin/or raise those $100 in ALTT and lock campaigns topic.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 12, 2024, 04:29:15 PM
Ddos attacks are bad for everyone. In the end, most websites are forced to move to Cloudflare and AWS or other big companies because no one can stand against such attacks all the time.

And those companies, the only ones which are able to protect a website against Ddos, are very invasive and do not respect anyone's privacy.

This service is an enemy of the internet freedom and privacy.
Yes, you're absolutely right, it's because of such DDoS attacks that many privacy oriented sites had to implement Cloudflare on their sites. A simple site with a host can get down easily from such attacks and when such site and its owner finds no other way to protect his site from such attacks then he takes shelter of those big companies like Cloudflare and AWS.

You have raised a valid point, if any service can be harmful for privacy then that service should not exist on this platform. Admin of this forum gives so much importance to privacy and so do other president, and moderators, and all reputed members of the forum. I believe admin, president, and moderators should read this thread and take a quick action against that thread.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Agbe on March 12, 2024, 04:55:38 PM
Op well observation. And the best way to do is to write close and lock the thread and that is how it has been done. I really appreciate your effort to bring this out to the public. The op or the manager of that thread or campaign would have known this first after one week when the campaign was launched. But probably because of the work load and the anger the management gave him made him to abandon the campaign and forgot to lock the thread. But those who were applying in the campaign would have also noticed that and pm the CM. Well nothing spoiled. You have made it happened. I saw the thread Locked now. Good work.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 12, 2024, 06:57:45 PM
I believe that many are grateful that mixers are accepted on the Altcoinstalks forum, it is necessary for the crypto community. However, a line should be drawn somewhere and this forum should not be pushed to the dark side by allowing the promotion of everything.
This should not be a place for black-label tools, hacking or anything similar and we don't need negative attention here, after all the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrencies.

I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.
Many might think the same of mixers. I vaguely remember the campaign on the other forum and it didn't last long. The thread here was locked last I remember, so if anything the admins should just keep it locked and let it fade away.

Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Freemind on March 12, 2024, 07:23:10 PM
There are many ways to test the security or capacity of a website or service without having to border on illegality, such as DDoS attacks. The fact that the bounty manager has not accepted any member of the forum either seems to me to be a lack of seriousness when launching a campaign, so you can imagine the rest of my opinion.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: bitmover on March 12, 2024, 08:10:43 PM
I believe that many are grateful that mixers are accepted on the Altcoinstalks forum, it is necessary for the crypto community. However, a line should be drawn somewhere and this forum should not be pushed to the dark side by allowing the promotion of everything.
This should not be a place for black-label tools, hacking or anything similar and we don't need negative attention here, after all the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrencies.

I voted for the complete deletion of this campaign and I will vote to not allow similar types of services to have any presence on this forum in the future. Regardless of whether it's a campaign or just ANN, we don't need that.
Many might think the same of mixers. I vaguely remember the campaign on the other forum and it didn't last long. The thread here was locked last I remember, so if anything the admins should just keep it locked and let it fade away.

however, mixers can be used to do good. A person might just want to have privacy, which is not illegal.

But a service which the only purpose is to do something illegal and immoral, is different.
DDOS attacks are illegal worldwide, AFAIK. If they are legal somewhere, it is at least immoral.

This might even hurt the forum and admin may face legal problems for promoting Ddos services? I certainly would not promote such things in my name.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Cantsay on March 12, 2024, 11:06:47 PM

Yes, you're absolutely right, it's because of such DDoS attacks that many privacy oriented sites had to implement Cloudflare on their sites. A simple site with a host can get down easily from such attacks and when such site and its owner finds no other way to protect his site from such attacks then he takes shelter of those big companies like Cloudflare and AWS.

I saw that the thread has been locked now, meaning the president has made his decision, and just others said I`m also in for the removal of this kind of service from the forum, but for that to happen, the admin would have to write an official thread stating the type of service that won`t be tolerated if posted here in altcoinstalks; if not, others would still come to create their ANN thread here anyway.


I have replied to the thread and suggested other members to stop posting applications in that thread because the manager isn't accepting anyone's application.

Assuming the admin didn`t go ahead to lock the thread, trust me, you would have still seen more applications rolling in, and that just proves that many campaign applicants don`t even bother to see if the campaign manager posted any updates; all they do is check the time the last post was made, and then they`ll add theirs if the date is close.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: examplens on March 12, 2024, 11:31:17 PM
Many might think the same of mixers. I vaguely remember the campaign on the other forum and it didn't last long. The thread here was locked last I remember, so if anything the admins should just keep it locked and let it fade away.

however, mixers can be used to do good. A person might just want to have privacy, which is not illegal.

But a service which the only purpose is to do something illegal and immoral, is different.
DDOS attacks are illegal worldwide, AFAIK. If they are legal somewhere, it is at least immoral.

This might even hurt the forum and admin may face legal problems for promoting Ddos services? I certainly would not promote such things in my name.

If a third party uses a mixer, it cannot harm me in any way.
If a third party uses Ddos service, it can certainly cause damage to me. So these two type of services cannot be compared.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 13, 2024, 04:19:15 PM
I was struck by the topic seeing that the thread said 'close', and seeing that worldofcoins hasn't posted anything on the forum since he posted the OP struck me as odd. In any case, if it's not delivering what it promises, i.e. hiring people for campaigns, it's ok locked and I agree with those calling for it to be deleted.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 13, 2024, 04:27:22 PM
I was struck by the topic seeing that the thread said 'close', and seeing that worldofcoins hasn't posted anything on the forum since he posted the OP struck me as odd. In any case, if it's not delivering what it promises, i.e. hiring people for campaigns, it's ok locked and I agree with those calling for it to be deleted.
If I'm not wrong then he locked that thread himself after seeing this thread. His intention wasn't to hire anyone in the campaign and I believe most members of the forum also don't want to promote a DDoS service on their profiles.

Worldofcoins, should come on this thread and explain that why he locked the thread, and why for so many weeks the thread was open without any reason? If someone posts a signature thread then at least that manager should inform the members who apply for it.

But, he didn't inform anyone about anything and was just watching others who were applying to get accepted in that thread. And, yesterday he finally closed the campaign again without saying anything. It's very irresponsible manner by a campaign manager.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 13, 2024, 05:02:16 PM
Worldofcoins, should come on this thread and explain that why he locked the thread, and why for so many weeks the thread was open without any reason? If someone posts a signature thread then at least that manager should inform the members who apply for it.

If we were in BTT I would have left worldofcoins a neutral tag commenting on this aspect, because I don't think it's enough to leave a negative tag, but it's certainly worth leaving a reference for future events. It's strange behaviour to say the least.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: admin on March 13, 2024, 05:07:46 PM
hello
can you please reply to the thread you created

Hello admin, I was contacted by stresse.ru management, and they said they don't want to continue their campaign, so I locked the thread. It somehow got unlocked.
It has been locked now.
this is the response from the manager.
After verifications, indeed the thread was unlocked by a mod on March 1st
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 13, 2024, 05:24:36 PM
hello
can you please reply to the thread you created

Hello admin, I was contacted by stresse.ru management, and they said they don't want to continue their campaign, so I locked the thread. It somehow got unlocked.
It has been locked now.
this is the response from the manager.
After verifications, indeed the thread was unlocked by a mod on March 1st
It's nice to hear that from you admin, but he could also say that on that signature thread by leaving a message like "Stresse.ru changed their plans about this campaign that's why I recommend each participant to withdraw their applications, sorry for inconvenience."

With that message then the manager could lock the thread and also inform you and moderators about stresse.ru uninterest in launching the campaign on the forum. That way no moderator would unlock the thread and no one would post applications in hope of getting accepted in that campaign.

However, I believe this thread is going to be helpful, and it's only because of this thread that many users have found that stresse.ru's campaign was just opened without any reason and if I would not create this thread then someone else would spot that campaign and make a similar thread.

Admin, I suggest you and president to rethink about such campaigns because allowing advertising of DDoS tools isn't related to crypto-currencies and it will be totally out of topic of this forum. My suggestion is to make a rule to not allow campaigns that may promote hacking tools as that will give a message that this forum is a safe haven for crypto users, not for hackers.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 13, 2024, 06:01:02 PM
It's nice to hear that from you admin, but he could also say that on that signature thread by leaving a message like "Stresse.ru changed their plans about this campaign that's why I recommend each participant to withdraw their applications, sorry for inconvenience."

With that message then the manager could lock the thread and also inform you and moderators about stresse.ru uninterest in launching the campaign on the forum. That way no moderator would unlock the thread and no one would post applications in hope of getting accepted in that campaign.

That would be the logical and normal thing to do. When a campaign is paused, or ends, the campaign manager makes it known in the thread. And if you are accepting applications for a campaign and the company lets you know that they don't want to launch it, the logical thing for a good campaign manager is to first publish a post and then lock the thread. I find that very strange.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 13, 2024, 06:14:58 PM
When a campaign is paused, or ends, the campaign manager makes it known in the thread. And if you are accepting applications for a campaign and the company lets you know that they don't want to launch it, the logical thing for a good campaign manager is to first publish a post and then lock the thread. I find that very strange.
Yes, when a brand isn't interested in having their campaign anymore then it's smart to let the ones know who have applied for the campaign. There's nothing wrong when a manager has posted a thread about a campaign even if they change their plans the manager should tell the applicants about it in detail.

I'm not against worldofcoins or Stresse.ru but it's ethical thing to understand that a site like Stresse.ru which's offering DDoS services should not be allowed on the forum. In fact not only me but all those members who understand how harmful such tools could be would say the same.

The ones who have their websites without Cloudflare protection know that how harmful such tools can be. They are so destructive that they can destroy someone's hard work. It's not an easy task to launch and run a website successfully, it requires effort, and hard work to run a site and if someone attacks the site with a tool like that then that's the worst thing.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 14, 2024, 05:54:57 AM
hello
can you please reply to the thread you created

Hello admin, I was contacted by stresse.ru management, and they said they don't want to continue their campaign, so I locked the thread. It somehow got unlocked.
It has been locked now.
this is the response from the manager.
After verifications, indeed the thread was unlocked by a mod on March 1st
I guess its indeed unlocked by others for some reason because we can see the Gap of applications meaning at sometime earlier it was being locked by the manager .
but indeed that at least being manager he should have indicate that the team decided to stop the sig campaign so those who applied also have idea what is happening .
Also everything is good now as it is already locked again .this must serve as a lesson to all manager that at least put an update to what is the plan or the decision of each team they are promoting.
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 14, 2024, 06:36:22 PM
OP you really did great work, by noticing this, as I heard the name before but don't remember now where, reporting the bad purpose of the project is a brave thing to do. I really appreciate your work here, it is a big contribution so +1 for you.
If there is no response from Stresse, ask mods/admin/or raise those $100 in ALTT and lock campaigns topic.
What's the need to raise $100 when once the president makes a decision, then the admin or the mods can lock that thread, Things are not that difficult, that people start to raise funds to lock threads only. By the way, I did not notice we can lock someone else's topic by burning $100 worth of ALTT, This is just not good I mean as you aforementioned, this is hijacking someone's post. We should not be given this power. (BTW, the thread is already locked now).
Title: Re: The Stresse.ru Signature campaign thread should be locked or deleted
Post by: SamReomo on March 14, 2024, 07:15:54 PM
OP you really did great work, by noticing this, as I heard the name before but don't remember now where, reporting the bad purpose of the project is a brave thing to do. I really appreciate your work here, it is a big contribution so +1 for you.
Thank you for the appreciation, I just wanted to help out the forum and all those decent members who give their precious time to make posts on this forum. I'm very happy that the forum members have found this thread helpful and I'm happy that after creation of this thread that campaign got that "Close" status which was highly needed. When we are part of a forum then it's our duty to highlight the things that could cause problems for the forum and its members.

The project is not a decent one because it can be used for malicious purposes, which isn't ethically accepted in a decent community like this. I'm very happy that admin supported this thread and all members also supported this thread and that's why that Stresse.ru signature thread finally got locked. Since the main purpose of this thread is completed so I'm going to lock it from now on, hope admin and president will think something about such shady projects.