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As we all know that Keith Thurman has backed-out of the fight against Tim Tszyu because of injury and that he his replacement is the lanky Sebastian Fundora.
Let's discuss about the chance of Fundora against a prime Tim Tszyu.
What are your thoughts about this fight guys?
https://www.boxingscene.com/full-pbc-card-fundora-steps-replace-injured-thurman--182268
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As we all know that Keith Thurman has backed-out of the fight against Tim Tszyu because of injury and that he his replacement is the lanky Sebastian Fundora.
Let's discuss about the chance of Fundora against a prime Tim Tszyu.
What are your thoughts about this fight guys?
https://www.boxingscene.com/full-pbc-card-fundora-steps-replace-injured-thurman--182268
Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,
Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,
Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
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Fundora is also in his prime. Even younger than Tim, he however is not a KO artist with powerful punch.
Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.
If its Tim is to win, he'll need to get closer aiming for body shot then the chin.
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Fundora is also in his prime. Even younger than Tim, he however is not a KO artist with powerful punch.
Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.
If its Tim is to win, he'll need to get closer aiming for body shot then the chin.
Yeah, since Fundora is very tall, as we can see in the picture, the best weapon for Tim is to hit that body and to soften Fundora early. Brian Mendoza has already laid down the blue print on how to beat Fundora. So it's just for Tim to copy it, simply as that.
For Fundora to win, use his jab more and not let Tim go on his sweet spot, the fight should be in the middle as he will be vulnerable in the corner. And if he found himself in the corner, then turtle up and be as small as he can be and protect that body.
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Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.
Even if that's what they planned to do, I don't think Sebastian has the discipline to follow that strategy once he's hit by Tim. As you already said, he's younger.
A lot of the plans goes out the window and I think almost all boxers goes back to their natural style of fighting if they get hit hard.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,
Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,
Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
This is only my assessment based on the number of fighters I have seen if you have the reach and the height advantage, you should capitalize on it, Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, and Donaire have fought strong small boxers and they capitalized their reach, and height to beat their strong and small opponents.
Fundora's trainers inculcate the machismo type of boxer in his mind, which is why he goes toe to toe he should develop a stiff long jab and combinations like Lennox Lewis did in many of his fights.
If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.
I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.
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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.
I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.
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Both made the weight for their fight and so everything is now set. Looking at the over and under, you are spot on mate at 7.5 rounds. And if Tim can execute his plans of attacking the body of Fundora, then this fight is not going to last the full 12 rounds.
Fundora sooner or later might go and put his hands in his body to protect it and then Tim switching from body to the head if he sees that Fundora has adjusted, similar to what Brian Mendoza did to Sebastian.
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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.
I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.
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Both made the weight for their fight and so everything is now set. Looking at the over and under, you are spot on mate at 7.5 rounds. And if Tim can execute his plans of attacking the body of Fundora, then this fight is not going to last the full 12 rounds.
Fundora sooner or later might go and put his hands in his body to protect it and then Tim switching from body to the head if he sees that Fundora has adjusted, similar to what Brian Mendoza did to Sebastian.
Fundora's physical attributes put him at a disadvantage against Tim Tszyu, I mean it is awkward to see a 6 foot 5 fighter fighting at 154 pound category. Yes, after Tim would Sebastian with some body shots, his head will fall as he will switch his defense to his body making the head vulnerable to Tim's power bombs.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,
Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
This is only my assessment based on the number of fighters I have seen if you have the reach and the height advantage, you should capitalize on it, Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, and Donaire have fought strong small boxers and they capitalized their reach, and height to beat their strong and small opponents.
Fundora's trainers inculcate the machismo type of boxer in his mind, which is why he goes toe to toe he should develop a stiff long jab and combinations like Lennox Lewis did in many of his fights.
If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
Well, there are a lot of great boxers that beat Tommy Hearns even if he uses his reach advantage, he has power but in the fight against Hagler, his physical attributes was no match for Hagler's chin. Same with Lennox when he was caught by Rahman but he eventually avenge that. Also with Donaire, losing Rigo. So there are fights that sometimes even if you are gifted physically, small fighters can give you a big problem if they possesses relentless attack, good chin and technical prowess and of course the power to knock you out.
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And so there was a upset in this fight, no body shots whatsoever by straight up bloodied fight between the two warriors. But in the end if was Fundora who win. Judges score the fight, David Sutherland (115-113 for Fundora) and Steve Weisfeld (116-112), while Judge Tim Cheatham marked it 116-112 for Tszyu.
Tszyu was cut though, throughout the fight, and it started with a elbow in round 2. And after that he really struggled in the next 10 rounds. And Fundora take advantage of it, albeit he also had blood in his nose and both corners had to really work it out to keep the blood from their fighters. There is a rematch clause in this fight, so let's see if Tim will exercise it.
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And so there was a upset in this fight, no body shots whatsoever by straight up bloodied fight between the two warriors. But in the end if was Fundora who win. Judges score the fight, David Sutherland (115-113 for Fundora) and Steve Weisfeld (116-112), while Judge Tim Cheatham marked it 116-112 for Tszyu.
Tszyu was cut though, throughout the fight, and it started with a elbow in round 2. And after that he really struggled in the next 10 rounds. And Fundora take advantage of it, albeit he also had blood in his nose and both corners had to really work it out to keep the blood from their fighters. There is a rematch clause in this fight, so let's see if Tim will exercise it.
Hats off to both fighters, they really gave everything on the line here, specially Tim as he knows what's on the line and its important for him to win and go back to Australia as a champion.
But Fundora can't be deny in this fight, we have underestimate the sky scraper, he game with a game plan. That accidental elbow though I would say really did it for Tim as it affected him mentally in the next 10 rounds.
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He steals the round every tume and sure thing he used his reach advantage. I guess we'll be seeing Fundora vs Crawford later.
So he acrually learned how he was defeated the last time and so this is his best to give a bloody fight against the bookmakwrs favorite.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
And it all messed up our predictions in this fight. Because of that accidental elbow, all plans of Tim was thrown out of the window. Now he begun and fight for survival mode in the next 10 rounds. And it's good that he survived, but with that kind of wounds and that blood keep flowing into your eyes, he can't obviously see and so have a hard time against the tall Fundora. Yeah, Tim deserves the rematch, let the wounds heal and then they can go out again for a rematch in Australia.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
And it all messed up our predictions in this fight. Because of that accidental elbow, all plans of Tim was thrown out of the window. Now he begun and fight for survival mode in the next 10 rounds. And it's good that he survived, but with that kind of wounds and that blood keep flowing into your eyes, he can't obviously see and so have a hard time against the tall Fundora. Yeah, Tim deserves the rematch, let the wounds heal and then they can go out again for a rematch in Australia.
Tim's offense slowed down the blood was not only very annoying it's also a big concern because the fight could be stopped anytime and he could lose the fight, both fighters were full of blood, it not exciting to see a fight like this, it threw off Tim and he cannot implement his plan, nobody expects a fight like this but still a good fight.
I have Tim ahead of the fight because of the heart he is showing for every round, not that I can say the best man wins, but both fighters deserve a repeat of the fight to settle who really is the better fighter.
Since Tim is the champion, there's a possibility of a rematch usually the champion if he losses have the right for a rematch.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
It was really nasty that throughout the whole 12 rounds, the ring was a muddled with all the blood by fighters. If in old times, in a gladiator wherein you can smell the blood.
Everyone will agree here that a rematch should be made. I think it will be Tim that needs to activated it if I'm not mistaken. So without a question he will do that after he settled down and have his cut stitches by the doctor.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
It was really nasty that throughout the whole 12 rounds, the ring was a muddled with all the blood by fighters. If in old times, in a gladiator wherein you can smell the blood.
Everyone will agree here that a rematch should be made. I think it will be Tim that needs to activated it if I'm not mistaken. So without a question he will do that after he settled down and have his cut stitches by the doctor.
Have read an article on which the WBO has ordered Sebastian Fundora ro face Crawford, don't know whether he will take this one or have a rematch with Tim Tszyu but either fight would bring money to the table for the young Fundora.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
It was really nasty that throughout the whole 12 rounds, the ring was a muddled with all the blood by fighters. If in old times, in a gladiator wherein you can smell the blood.
Everyone will agree here that a rematch should be made. I think it will be Tim that needs to activated it if I'm not mistaken. So without a question he will do that after he settled down and have his cut stitches by the doctor.
Have read an article on which the WBO has ordered Sebastian Fundora ro face Crawford, don't know whether he will take this one or have a rematch with Tim Tszyu but either fight would bring money to the table for the young Fundora.
If that is the case then Tim will have to wait, but I don't think that he will have his chance to avenge his defeat against Fundora as Crawford is a very intelligent fighter. And unless there is another incident like this, Crawford getting hit by Fundora's elbow, it will be a lopside win for Crawford.
Not that I underestimate Fundora, but Crawford has too much tool in his arsenal to counter the length of Fundora and again, target that body of Sebastian throughout in this fight.
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If that is the case then Tim will have to wait, but I don't think that he will have his chance to avenge his defeat against Fundora as Crawford is a very intelligent fighter. And unless there is another incident like this, Crawford getting hit by Fundora's elbow, it will be a lopside win for Crawford.
Not that I underestimate Fundora, but Crawford has too much tool in his arsenal to counter the length of Fundora and again, target that body of Sebastian throughout in this fight.
Many boxers want to get a hand on Fundora if he decides to fight Crawford he will be a heavy underdog here again, if he fights Tszyu in Australia he will be a slight underdog again because its the Australian territory, if he decides to fight Spence, that could be a fairly even match but we all know skill based Spence has the edge.
Fundora needs another big fight to prove himself again that he is a real deal.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
It was really nasty that throughout the whole 12 rounds, the ring was a muddled with all the blood by fighters. If in old times, in a gladiator wherein you can smell the blood.
Everyone will agree here that a rematch should be made. I think it will be Tim that needs to activated it if I'm not mistaken. So without a question he will do that after he settled down and have his cut stitches by the doctor.
Have read an article on which the WBO has ordered Sebastian Fundora ro face Crawford, don't know whether he will take this one or have a rematch with Tim Tszyu but either fight would bring money to the table for the young Fundora.
If that is the case then Tim will have to wait, but I don't think that he will have his chance to avenge his defeat against Fundora as Crawford is a very intelligent fighter. And unless there is another incident like this, Crawford getting hit by Fundora's elbow, it will be a lopside win for Crawford.
Not that I underestimate Fundora, but Crawford has too much tool in his arsenal to counter the length of Fundora and again, target that body of Sebastian throughout in this fight.
He might not have to face Fundora again, but definitely he will chase for the belt. So regardless if it will be Crawford who is going to win, Tim will have the first chance because he is the former champion and there should be a rematch clause between him and Fundora.
So still there is a chance for Tim to become a champion again. But I don't think he will have the terms similar in the rematch clause wherein the fight will be held in Australia. He will have to go back to US again.
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Congratulations to Fundora. It was a smart fight but I can't really give him all the credit because of that accidental elbow. His opponent was literally fighting with one eye for ten rounds.
I think Tzuyu deserves an immediate rematch. He won the first 2 rounds in all judges scorecard and could have easily dominated the rest if not for the nasty cut.
Yeah, a rematch should be given to Tim because the latter was like having an off night because of that nasty cut. I just couldn't believe that Tim's cutman didn't control that cut or maybe that was a very deep cut that is hard to control. One thing though, there is no rematch-clause for this fight but i think Fundora would give Tim the rematch but this time he could get more money that the first fight.
It was really nasty that throughout the whole 12 rounds, the ring was a muddled with all the blood by fighters. If in old times, in a gladiator wherein you can smell the blood.
Everyone will agree here that a rematch should be made. I think it will be Tim that needs to activated it if I'm not mistaken. So without a question he will do that after he settled down and have his cut stitches by the doctor.
Have read an article on which the WBO has ordered Sebastian Fundora ro face Crawford, don't know whether he will take this one or have a rematch with Tim Tszyu but either fight would bring money to the table for the young Fundora.
If that is the case then Tim will have to wait, but I don't think that he will have his chance to avenge his defeat against Fundora as Crawford is a very intelligent fighter. And unless there is another incident like this, Crawford getting hit by Fundora's elbow, it will be a lopside win for Crawford.
Not that I underestimate Fundora, but Crawford has too much tool in his arsenal to counter the length of Fundora and again, target that body of Sebastian throughout in this fight.
He might not have to face Fundora again, but definitely he will chase for the belt. So regardless if it will be Crawford who is going to win, Tim will have the first chance because he is the former champion and there should be a rematch clause between him and Fundora.
So still there is a chance for Tim to become a champion again. But I don't think he will have the terms similar in the rematch clause wherein the fight will be held in Australia. He will have to go back to US again.
With the recent development where Sebastian Fundora could not fight until September because of the broken nose he sustained in the fight against Tim Tszyu so the likelihood of him facing Crawford is slim and facing Tim for a rematch this year-end is probable since that time, his injury is already healed.