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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: bitmover on March 26, 2024, 10:06:02 PM
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Ever wandered which coins have max supply, like Bitcoin?
As the halving approaches, many people might be asking this question about other altcoins.
If a coin has a halving or something similar, it must likely have a max supply ( because of mathematics).
If you go to coinmarketcap you can check if a coin has a max supply or not. Take a look at the Circulating supply column.
If there is a progress bar, this coin has a maximum allowed supply.
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https://coinmarketcap.com/
Of the largest coins, only BTC XRP and ADA have a maximum supply. Other coins may be minted out to infinite.
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If cryptocurrency does not have a predetermined fixed supply, it is not possible to know its maximum supply.
Some currencies have a Dynamic type max supply which changes according to supply and demand, or Deflationary, which decreases over time but is unlimited, and therefore fixed supply is the only one that can be classified.
https://cryptoli.st/lists/fixed-supply has a filter to classify cryptocurrencies according to fixed-supply
There are only 2,657 cryptocurrencies of this type.
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Yes. I know about this and this is the first reason I didn't like tokens like ETH because it does not have a limit. The devs of ETH can now generate unlimited ETH and cash them out whenever they want. Even though I do not understand the mechanism, I believe it's possible for them. Not only ETh but tokens like Solana, BNB even Polkadot do not have any maximum supply limit. Which is too risky for the investors. But those tokens are on hype because of their ecosystem which keeps maintaining the demand on the market and the dev team can unlock new supply every few days if they want.
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If a coin has a halving or something similar, it must likely have a max supply ( because of mathematics).
Not quite, there is a hybrid, doge!
Doge had halvings and a diminishing issuance supply but at the same time the final reward kept going, so it went down from 1 mill to 15.6 k but then it started a constant block reward of 10k per block.
So there is a bit of difference between eth and doge that still have a predictable supply and USDT for example, which could grow 10x in size tomorrow.
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This is understandable for Bitcoin, but what surprised me was XRP. I didn't expect it to have maximum supply being a centralized coin!!
Given that XRP is centralized, has no halving, and is not produced by mining in the first place, how does it have maximum supply? Even if this is in the coin code, can't the central company change this number later?
I mean couldn't they modify the code in the future to increase the number of XRP if they wanted?
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Thanks for sharing this. It's quite easy to see at a glance the coins that have no ceiling, this could easily add another factor to investing in a coin or something. It's best that you see that because the law of supply and demand could affect the market especially if a lot of people buy the coin. Better analyze the coin before investing in it though.
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I mean couldn't they modify the code in the future to increase the number of XRP if they wanted?
Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
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Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
Yes, you are correct, but this needs the consensus of the entire Bitcoin community to change the code, otherwise a hard fork will occur on Bitcoin if there is no consensus on the change.
As for Ripple, it is a central company that owns XRP and can make the changes it wants without requiring approval or consensus.
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yep so many users hate the token. i think because from the users in the early stage of crypto, they hate garlinghouse for owning billions of this token. its sort of a premined token which the number 1 in the richlist is garlinghouse and the ripple labs.
i'm curious how much is being lost in XRP already. the longer the project existed i'm sure people already lost their keys. there use to be a gatehub wallet where they distribute 20 XRP every sign up, i'm sure i've sign up to it.
surprisingly ADA as well.
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yep so many users hate the token. i think because from the users in the early stage of crypto, they hate garlinghouse for owning billions of this token. its sort of a premined token which the number 1 in the richlist is garlinghouse and the ripple labs.
i'm curious how much is being lost in XRP already. the longer the project existed i'm sure people already lost their keys. there use to be a gatehub wallet where they distribute 20 XRP every sign up, i'm sure i've sign up to it.
surprisingly ADA as well.
Maximum supply doesn't make the coin good by itself.
There are good coins, such as Ethereum, which doesn't have a max supply. And bad ones, such as ADA, which has. Also, max supply doesn't mean the coin will be valuable.
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Ever wandered which coins have max supply, like Bitcoin?
That is very easy question for Bitcoin, everyone knows there is going to be 21 million coins, but I dont know supply for other coins.
There is a difference between total supply, max supply and current supply for all coins.
Price can be connected with max supply of coins, but it doesnt have to be.
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Thank you very much for presenting such a good topic. In fact it is very important that the supply of any token can be linked as the best investment factor. Whenever we analyze a currency we research the supply of that currency. Because the law of supply and demand can affect the market that involves supply. Let's bring such a topic from everyone to benefit. Whenever it's time to invest we want to think about supply, which is different from meme coin.
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Ever wandered which coins have max supply, like Bitcoin?
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Of the largest coins, only BTC XRP and ADA have a maximum supply. Other coins may be minted out to infinite.
Wait what! only three coins have a maximum or limited supply. I can see dozens of coins with that bar on the first page of coinmarketcap so in what context are you saying only these 3 coins have maximum supply? I might have interpreted the post wrong so please explain it.
BTW thanks for the information because TBH I never checked this bar before on the homepage of the coin market to know that if its have a limited supply or not. Whenever I have to invest in an alts I don't just see the limited supply so I have to open the coin info on a new page but still those who want to extract tokens based on limited supply can easily do it by seeing this bar.
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Wait what! only three coins have a maximum or limited supply. I can see dozens of coins with that bar on the first page of coinmarketcap so in what context are you saying only these 3 coins have maximum supply? I might have interpreted the post wrong so please explain it.
I am saying that ETH, DOGE, SOL, BNB, USDT do not have maximum supply, and those are the top 10 coins.
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https://coinmarketcap.com/
Of the largest coins, only BTC XRP and ADA have a maximum supply. Other coins may be minted out to infinite.
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Of the largest coins, only BTC XRP and ADA have a maximum supply. Other coins may be minted out to infinite.
So out of the top coins in value, only BTC has maximum supply. Wow that means the developers of coins like ethreum, bnb and Solana can always get more of them and always control the amount they wish to have thereby not falling short in valuables in their possession.
I mean couldn't they modify the code in the future to increase the number of XRP if they wanted?
Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
What could be the price impact that a coin like XRP will have in the market if the codes were changed and increased the maximum supply of it? I think coins that have more impact in the market like bitcoin, eth could do that, if only it would ever be done at all.
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I am saying that ETH, DOGE, SOL, BNB, USDT do not have maximum supply, and those are the top 10 coins.
Thank you, I thought Doge had a maximum supply.
XRP is centralized and I think they may increase the number of tokens. As for ADA, more than 70% of the total supply is controlled by less than 2% of network addresses.
So out of the top coins in value, only BTC has maximum supply. Wow that means the developers of coins like ethreum, bnb and Solana can always get more of them and always control the amount they wish to have thereby not falling short in valuables in their possession.
It is true that the supply of Ethereum is infinite, but the annual issue is limited.
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So out of the top coins in value, only BTC has maximum supply. Wow that means the developers of coins like ethreum, bnb and Solana can always get more of them and always control the amount they wish to have thereby not falling short in valuables in their possession.
It is true that the supply of Ethereum is infinite, but the annual issue is limited.
Actually, ethereum changed its consensus rules some time ago. They are actually burning coins now after PoS was implemented. However, there is no limited amount of coins to be minted, so they can change this burning policy at anytime they see fit.
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I am saying that ETH, DOGE, SOL, BNB, USDT do not have maximum supply, and those are the top 10 coins.
Oh now I got the point of the post, thanks for clarifying. Well, you make a good point in your post that these tokens lie in the list of top 10 coins and still they have no limited supply which means they are so adopted and leveraged by the whole crypto industry or in other words, the crypto industry has made them independent of tokenomics.
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Honestly, I don't know the details of this problem, by making this thread, you will know a little about the problem of the supply limits of each coin, and will increase knowledge from the perspective of all my friends, but if I may ask, how can we see the maximum supply in a simple way
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Honestly, I don't know the details of this problem, by making this thread, you will know a little about the problem of the supply limits of each coin, and will increase knowledge from the perspective of all my friends, but if I may ask, how can we see the maximum supply in a simple way
in my opinion, OP have positives viewed with some respond about max supply of coins make him easily know risk by investing on that coins although can't guarantee with some coins have max supply will be on lower price. I think some coins supply lock and unlock have moment period to know how to avoid price going dump, not all coins show us how much their supply because any coins suddenly increasing supply after locking moment and make price potential get dump.
To know how much supply some coins maybe read detail on their whitepaper project or ability to check with coingecko and coinmarket cap website.
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Honestly, I don't know the details of this problem, by making this thread, you will know a little about the problem of the supply limits of each coin, and will increase knowledge from the perspective of all my friends, but if I may ask, how can we see the maximum supply in a simple way
in my opinion, OP have positives viewed with some respond about max supply of coins make him easily know risk by investing on that coins although can't guarantee with some coins have max supply will be on lower price. I think some coins supply lock and unlock have moment period to know how to avoid price going dump, not all coins show us how much their supply because any coins suddenly increasing supply after locking moment and make price potential get dump.
To know how much supply some coins maybe read detail on their whitepaper project or ability to check with coingecko and coinmarket cap website.
I completely agree with your point. Understanding the supply limits of coins is crucial for making informed investment decisions, especially to avoid surprises during supply unlock periods. Referring to whitepapers or reliable sources like CoinGecko or CoinMarketCap is always a good strategy to get accurate data on coin supply!
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I completely agree with your point. Understanding the supply limits of coins is crucial for making informed investment decisions, especially to avoid surprises during supply unlock periods. Referring to whitepapers or reliable sources like CoinGecko or CoinMarketCap is always a good strategy to get accurate data on coin supply!
Also, it is important to know if a firm audited a certain project and their codes. Because there a lot of projects where the project developers can make changes on the code and the token holders won't be able to do anything against them. I remember how Terra luna token supply was increasing rapidly during the crash. That was happened because the developers were able to increase the supply limit indifinitly and there was no one to stop them. They generated unlimited numbers of tokens and sold them on the market and average users were fucked up due to this.
So, if a token has unlimited supply, or a has security flaw in the code which means they can change it later and make the supply unlimited, then you are going to lose your money anytime soon.
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Also, it is important to know if a firm audited a certain project and their codes. Because there a lot of projects where the project developers can make changes on the code and the token holders won't be able to do anything against them. I remember how Terra luna token supply was increasing rapidly during the crash. That was happened because the developers were able to increase the supply limit indifinitly and there was no one to stop them. They generated unlimited numbers of tokens and sold them on the market and average users were fucked up due to this.
So, if a token has unlimited supply, or a has security flaw in the code which means they can change it later and make the supply unlimited, then you are going to lose your money anytime soon.
So it is important to have open source projects, where everything is transparent and the controllers of the project can't just change the rules whenever they want
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So it is important to have open source projects, where everything is transparent and the controllers of the project can't just change the rules whenever they want
Yes. As long as the project is open-source, I don't think the developers will keep some back door on their project, which can be used later to modify it and make the supply unlimited. It is important to audit a project by reputed audir firms like certik. We can always ignore the project if they does not fill the criteria.
NotCoin launched only a few months ago and I saw the the owner revoked their own permission so they cannot make further change on the code. Even though it is a parody version on NotCoin, I believe it has some potential and reading their whitepaper does not take time, because it's white ;D
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I mean couldn't they modify the code in the future to increase the number of XRP if they wanted?
Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
Bitcoin has a maximum supply of 21 millions and any applications for a change of it's code, probably to increase supply will not be possible in my opinion. It will be extremely difficult for the miners, or those with the necessary experiences on it's management to agree on any changes. Therefore, i think that Bitcoin will always have a definite limited supply that shall be fully mined in the future. I also think that the inventors of Bitcoin may have no plans to change the existing code.
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I mean couldn't they modify the code in the future to increase the number of XRP if they wanted?
Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
Bitcoin has a maximum supply of 21 millions and any applications for a change of it's code, probably to increase supply will not be possible in my opinion. It will be extremely difficult for the miners, or those with the necessary experiences on it's management to agree on any changes. Therefore, i think that Bitcoin will always have a definite limited supply that shall be fully mined in the future. I also think that the inventors of Bitcoin may have no plans to change the existing code.
Changing the supply limit is a huge sign telling everyone to dump before they could.
People are speculating in what the effect will be with what very the dev team do. They may move to other coins to speculate prices also.
There use to be burning address of projects, it will be great if coinmarketcap can also add these info.
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Theoretically, even bitcoin code could be changed to apply a total supply change, or a halving calculation change.
The point is that those huge changed in the code could have a very big negative price impact.
Bitcoin has a maximum supply of 21 millions and any applications for a change of it's code, probably to increase supply will not be possible in my opinion. It will be extremely difficult for the miners, or those with the necessary experiences on it's management to agree on any changes. Therefore, i think that Bitcoin will always have a definite limited supply that shall be fully mined in the future. I also think that the inventors of Bitcoin may have no plans to change the existing code.
Changing the number of supply can affect the whole trust in bitcoin, from its users and miners since mining rewards will be affected too thus it will create a massive negative effect and have huge impact to its price and value. Thus a consensus and a hard fork will be created to do that.
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If cryptocurrency does not have a predetermined fixed supply, it is not possible to know its maximum supply.
Some currencies have a Dynamic type max supply which changes according to supply and demand, or Deflationary, which decreases over time but is unlimited, and therefore fixed supply is the only one that can be classified.
https://cryptoli.st/lists/fixed-supply has a filter to classify cryptocurrencies according to fixed-supply
There are only 2,657 cryptocurrencies of this type.
[img]https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/30/VmoeZ.png[/img]
I believe this site was attacked, when accessing it to check the information, it asked me to solve the captcha and then asked me to run a command in Windows Run and there was a command in my clipboard, which I will not paste here, as it contains malware, see image:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/15/xyRZN.png)
I have never come across this tactic of downloading malware and compromising your machine.
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I believe this site was attacked, when accessing it to check the information, it asked me to solve the captcha and then asked me to run a command in Windows Run and there was a command in my clipboard, which I will not paste here, as it contains malware, see image:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/15/xyRZN.png)
I have never come across this tactic of downloading malware and compromising your machine.
I can't verify what you experienced, since that website is now showing this error message.
Error. Page cannot be displayed. Please contact your service provider for more details. (20)
I also never see this kind of malware distribution that mimic google recaptcha.
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I can't verify what you experienced, since that website is now showing this error message.
I also never see this kind of malware distribution that mimic google recaptcha.
Every time you click, it redirects you to a different malicious website, this is common on some infected websites, the domain owner needs to be aware of this, as someone could be tricked.
It's very common for malware-infected websites to redirect to other different websites, so it's always a different attempt, in most cases it is to trick the victim into installing malware.
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I can't verify what you experienced, since that website is now showing this error message.
I also never see this kind of malware distribution that mimic google recaptcha.
Every time you click, it redirects you to a different malicious website, this is common on some infected websites, the domain owner needs to be aware of this, as someone could be tricked.
It's very common for malware-infected websites to redirect to other different websites, so it's always a different attempt, in most cases it is to trick the victim into installing malware.
This is a new kind of phising, never saw it either.
Interesting, and dangerous.
because people usually don't get suspicious on Google captcha ... I usually just do it as fast as possible...