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Title: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: luckyledger on April 05, 2024, 10:15:36 PM
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

I want to dissect and debate the elements of luck and skill across various games. How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?

Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Rruchi man on April 05, 2024, 10:51:00 PM
How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?
Skills in games that require luck or chance are completely useless because no matter how skillful you are, you do not win by your own personal efforts or knowledge but by chance and luck. This is why they are called luck based games. Skills are only relevant in skill based games where your chances of winning increases with how better your skill becomes. As a gambler, know the one you are playing, so that you do make practice skills for a game based on luck.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: salad daging on April 05, 2024, 11:28:39 PM
For me luck is 90% skill 10% in gambling nothing is purely due to skill.

The gambling game that is mastered now is of course Sportsbook and that is what we understand now that we like the sport of football matches so we have a little skill in analyzing the team although not an expert but I believe in this victory is not about skill but luck again.

Many people say that skills in gambling can be done if he is an expert, yes it comes back to him because we know gambling is almost entirely luck.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on April 06, 2024, 01:30:45 AM
In casino games there is nothing like skill, because it depends on luck full time, talking about skill in game, you could have mission poker and card games which also do not always work out with skills. But in casino, the casino machines are in dull time control of the wins, so you don't require any skill to play casino games.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Themepen on April 06, 2024, 03:05:37 AM
I think it is interesting talking about how luck and skill work together in casino games. Luck is important like slots and roulette but in some games like you can say poker and blackjack needs skill to help players to win. If players practice more and understand games well they can get better. But It is also good to know that luck is part of gambling and there is no specific way to win every time.Casinos try to make games that mix of luck and skill which gain different kind of players who come and play games. Some games are about luck while others need more skills. In end I will say that mix of luck and skill makes casino games fun or you can say it makes casinos probably fair. Luck can bring surprises but skill can make players feel in control. This balance is what makes players keep coming back for more excitement.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: robelneo on April 06, 2024, 02:43:27 PM


Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players

Not really that I mastered the game but rather I became knowledgeable and that was horse racing back then besides the racing programs I have notebooks and I categorize each horse and disc jockey.
I have fair results but I cannot accumulate enough winnings to win the Winner Take All another one is boxing, but I'm not into online betting I prefer what you call peer-to-peer its fast and easy money because here in our neighborhood there are people who likes peer to peer betting.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Unbunplease on April 06, 2024, 02:51:25 PM
If you play roulette - what are the skills here? Yes, maybe statistics somehow influence the result, but skills? Just luck. If we are talking about poker - here it is very important to be able to bluff, you need excellent knowledge of cards and the ability to calculate mathematical probabilities.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Emmanuel1 on April 06, 2024, 02:59:55 PM
Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?
There is nothing like skills when it comes to casino game or betting in general, gambling is all about luck.
No gambler is an expert in gambling, gambling is 99% luck and 1% skills,if there is anything called skill in gambling. That's my opinion.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: ajiz138 on April 06, 2024, 03:25:34 PM
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 06, 2024, 03:48:15 PM
I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers. There are people who believe that by choosing certain numbers, they will be 'lucky' and will hit the jackpot, but the results are purely random and any supposed relationship between them and the way of choosing the numbers, whether lottery or roulette, is pure chance.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Stompix on April 06, 2024, 03:58:52 PM
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

Casino games are different:
- slots, roulette, dice it's all about luck
- blackjack, poker, baccarat it's about sixty-forty let's say
You can be the best poker or blackjack player if you get the bad card you're going to lose to a newbie, the same time if you're really lucky you're going to beat everyone at the table with minimal knowledge, but still on the long run an experienced player will beat your average dealer.

I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers.

Traditionally casino games include card games, with those it's not just luck, as unlike roulette when it's either red or black you can still win even if you have the worse hand, or maximize winnings and minimize loss if you know how to play, balancing those odds and bets can make the difference.
With slots, yeah, no matter what you do long-term you're going to lose money, that's how the game is designed!
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: luckyledger on April 06, 2024, 08:25:27 PM
I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers. There are people who believe that by choosing certain numbers, they will be 'lucky' and will hit the jackpot, but the results are purely random and any supposed relationship between them and the way of choosing the numbers, whether lottery or roulette, is pure chance.

Ah, you’ve got me pegged as a luck believer, and maybe there’s a bit of truth in that! In the grand casino of life and games, I tend to think there’s always a sprinkle of luck involved, whether you’re spinning slots, picking lottery numbers, or sitting down for a game of poker.

But hey, let’s not sell the magic of luck short. Sure, the roll of the dice, the spin of the roulette wheel, and the shuffle of the cards are governed by the whims of chance. I won’t argue with science or statistics; they’ve got their place, marking out the battlefield where luck and probability dance. Yet, in that dance, isn’t there room for a little ritual, a little personal magic? Maybe crossing myself before a bet is more for me than the outcome, a way to step into the game with confidence, a smile, and that thrill of ‘what if.’

Now, when it comes to skill, of course, it matters in games like poker and blackjack. There’s a real art to reading the table, to bluffing, to making those smart plays. But even the best-laid strategies can be upturned by an unexpected card, a stroke of what you might call pure luck.
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?

Yet, here’s a thought: while luck can indeed lead us to win without skill, I believe that having skill can enhance the joy and satisfaction of gambling. It adds depth to the experience, especially in games where strategy does play a part. Even knowing that luck is the ultimate decider, the skill involved in making informed decisions, in trying to predict the unpredictable, is what gambling is all about.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: SmartGold01 on April 06, 2024, 10:42:59 PM
The games you can win by skills are hand held game such as motor racing, bike racing and bicycle racing if only you are taking part in these games then you can showcase your skills and talents to win them by yourself. Or possibly a game like whot, ludo, chess game any other similar games can be won by skills if you are skillful enough to play them. A game like football, Basketball or any game that involves teams players it's very hard to detects the outcome knowing too well that there are lot of people who  determines the results not just a single user. Single player such as wrestling or boxing all these game are skill based game. So, betting on these game can likely be that risky if you don't trust the players.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Baofeng on April 07, 2024, 12:20:21 AM
Still luck for me, as most of the games that we found on casino floors or online are based on it, slots, roulettes, craps and anything that man invented. And so with that even in card games, you still need some luck to win. You can count cards in a black jack and have the advantage, but it will take long on your end to win. And people who think that there is a pattern in baccarat is wrong, odds might be good as compare to slots but still there still a chance that you will lose and have string of losses. Poker, what are the chance that you will get A-A and then you still don't know if you are going to win? So still there is this element of luck although there are so called professional players.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: ajiz138 on April 07, 2024, 02:31:43 PM
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?

Yet, here’s a thought: while luck can indeed lead us to win without skill, I believe that having skill can enhance the joy and satisfaction of gambling. It adds depth to the experience, especially in games where strategy does play a part. Even knowing that luck is the ultimate decider, the skill involved in making informed decisions, in trying to predict the unpredictable, is what gambling is all about.
Yes, that may apply to certain types of games, but still at the end we have to have luck. In analyzing sports matches, we definitely need knowledge about the two teams that will compete, but we can only analyze without knowing what will happen.

Maybe we have a slight difference in point of view, but that's not a problem for me, because it's fine when we have differences of opinion like that. But what is clear is that we must remain careful.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: mu_enrico on April 07, 2024, 03:29:56 PM
Skills are only applicable to PvP offline games such as poker, where you can bluff and use other strategies. Even if it's PvP but online, I notice that the skill aspect is significantly diminished. In RNG games, well, you might as well worship the RNG God since skills are practically nonexistent. So most of the time, if you play online, you rely on luck no matter what the game is.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Unbunplease on April 07, 2024, 08:33:48 PM
Students can get overly addicted to gambling, and abandon their studies. Only a very small percentage of people can live off gambling. That is, a student can be left without education and without money, and even find himself completely in debt. Of course, everything depends on the person - but you need to take into account youthful maximalism and instability
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: vegasus on April 07, 2024, 10:34:03 PM
I think, in casinos or in gambling as a whole, there is a difference between skilled gambling and gambling on luck. It will depend on what type of gambling we play. Sometimes, luck is very influential. But what I'm confused about is, can someone always be lucky when gambling? Or because he is really skilled at gambling? Or does he know the loophole or cheat? Who knows.

Skills are only applicable to PvP offline games such as poker, where you can bluff and use other strategies. Even if it's PvP but online, I notice that the skill aspect is significantly diminished. In RNG games, well, you might as well worship the RNG God since skills are practically nonexistent. So most of the time, if you play online, you rely on luck no matter what the game is.
This is what I meant. SO, there  is certain games that are based on skill and mostly lay on luck. That's why we cannot determine to be lucky every time we are doing gambling. And that is why many people  when playing slots, most ofthem lose money because they only have luck  at the beginning. commonly.  ;D
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Crypto Library on April 07, 2024, 11:07:21 PM
Its seems that another similar topic about luck vs skill. This type of topic has been discussed a lot before in this forum and Bitcoin Talk forum. My opinion on this matter is still the same as before my opinion has not changed that gambling is entirely based on luck and skill here means does not make much of a difference to the outcome of gambling. And since it depends on luck, it cannot be taken as a job or as a source of income. If gambling with skill could win all the time then most people would probably take it up as their profession. By gambling skill I mean knowing a game well and knowing how to play it.  And on the other hand skill means sports prediction which sometimes works but ultimately result depends on luck because many times it has been seen that many weak teams beat a good team.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: kulkhan on April 08, 2024, 12:36:04 AM
To gain from casino gambling luck and skill both are needed. But main mainly need luck for casino gambling. Skill did not work here properly. Skill need for choosing game, maintain rules etc. But mainly need luck for casino gambling. Who are lucky person he will win within short time if luck don’t support then he will never win all day long. So i think to win from casino gambling mainly need luck there has no doubt. 
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: EluguHcman on April 08, 2024, 02:18:28 AM
The only perception you can. Ignite your gambling skills to be guaranteed is when you are familiar with a P2P fellow gambler but on a computer configuration game is where i assumed to be a game of luck and Only lucky can pave your way.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: MRY on April 08, 2024, 08:41:18 AM
To gain from casino gambling luck and skill both are needed. But main mainly need luck for casino gambling. Skill did not work here properly. Skill need for choosing game, maintain rules etc. But mainly need luck for casino gambling. Who are lucky person he will win within short time if luck don’t support then he will never win all day long. So i think to win from casino gambling mainly need luck there has no doubt.
The two aspects you mentioned must be inherent in us. But for online gambling sites, I think you are still lacking one thing that is very important for me and it is very difficult to control it. Patience is a complement to the aspects you mentioned above. Without the patience to control ourselves so as not to spend too much money in gambling places at one time, we will lose everything quickly. As long as you have these three aspects to master in a gambling place, I'm sure you will be calmer when placing a bet.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on April 08, 2024, 12:08:51 PM
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

I want to dissect and debate the elements of luck and skill across various games. How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?

Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players
In general, gambling is divided into two, namely skill-based gambling and pure luck-based gambling, basically both require luck, but skill-based gambling such as chess, sport betting and cards, requires the main skill and the second is luck

I really like skill-based gambling, this is because I don't want my money to be wasted without clear analysis and planning, 100% luck-based gambling is not for those who have little capital like slots, if the capital increases, the opportunity to increase profit is big
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: luckyledger on April 08, 2024, 12:54:21 PM
Its seems that another similar topic about luck vs skill. This type of topic has been discussed a lot before in this forum and Bitcoin Talk forum. My opinion on this matter is still the same as before my opinion has not changed that gambling is entirely based on luck and skill here means does not make much of a difference to the outcome of gambling. And since it depends on luck, it cannot be taken as a job or as a source of income. If gambling with skill could win all the time then most people would probably take it up as their profession. By gambling skill I mean knowing a game well and knowing how to play it.  And on the other hand skill means sports prediction which sometimes works but ultimately result depends on luck because many times it has been seen that many weak teams beat a good team.

What if we look at patience, self-control, financial literacy, and prudence as essential skills. These qualities do not just mitigate risks in games of chance like slots or roulette but also enhance the gaming experience, making it more disciplined and mindful. Acknowledging the role of luck, these skills empower players to navigate the unpredictable nature of casino games with informed decisions and a balanced approach, distinguishing between entertainment and financial investment.

To gain from casino gambling luck and skill both are needed. But main mainly need luck for casino gambling. Skill did not work here properly. Skill need for choosing game, maintain rules etc. But mainly need luck for casino gambling. Who are lucky person he will win within short time if luck don’t support then he will never win all day long. So i think to win from casino gambling mainly need luck there has no doubt.
The two aspects you mentioned must be inherent in us. But for online gambling sites, I think you are still lacking one thing that is very important for me and it is very difficult to control it. Patience is a complement to the aspects you mentioned above. Without the patience to control ourselves so as not to spend too much money in gambling places at one time, we will lose everything quickly. As long as you have these three aspects to master in a gambling place, I'm sure you will be calmer when placing a bet.

I concur, and I think that players endowed with the aforementioned skills tend to encounter 'luck' more frequently than those who merely rely on chance. This could suggests a nuanced interplay between skill and luck, where being informed, patient, and disciplined indirectly increases one's chances of success, even in purely luck based games.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: bitbit97 on April 08, 2024, 03:01:23 PM
Imo there are so little games in gambling that require a skill (but not a basic knowledge of rules), that skill is less significant than luck or skill isnt important at all. Generally, I can name only poker if I was asked which casino game require skill, and that is a poker where play gamble against other player only. Ability to read opponent and to bluff, these two skills are used. Against casino having a skill is useless. What even that skill should be? Ability to click or bet quickly?
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 11, 2024, 08:21:40 PM
I never think it safe to rely on luck because luck will not always help us. If there is an option to depend on one's own skill rather than depending on one's luck, I would say working on skill should be given more importance. When we apply our skills in these areas, it will be seen that by doing any work, we will have enough confidence in that work and due to having enough confidence in that work, we will be able to finish that work very well. Gambling is a game where money can come in and money can be lost in an instant, so if there is an opportunity to practice one's skills in a casino without taking such risks, one should take advantage of that skill.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 12, 2024, 02:03:57 PM
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

I want to dissect and debate the elements of luck and skill across various games. How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?

Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players
Nah, I have tried patterns and tricks just to win but does not guarantee my winnings and it seems the results are pretty random and some other bets just coincide with what I expected so I still call it under luck.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: royalRitta on April 12, 2024, 06:19:39 PM
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

I want to dissect and debate the elements of luck and skill across various games. How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?

Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players

In the casino game debate, it’s all about RNG vs. strategy. For games like slots or roulette, luck reigns supreme—no amount of skill changes your odds against the house. But in games like poker or blackjack, skill plays a massive role. You gotta know when to hold ‘em, fold ‘em, or double down to beat the odds. For me its more about luck in the end.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Rruchi man on April 12, 2024, 06:23:08 PM
How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?
Skills are unnecessary and will have no effect when used in games that are purely dependent on luck, but luck can have a great influence in games that involve skills.

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?
A well planned strategy will make a difference when it is a game based on skills, but still no effect on chance or luck based games, you remain at the mercy of the gambling gods.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: Sim_card on April 12, 2024, 06:37:10 PM
Gambling is based on luck and not skill. For instance let's consider two professional gamblers on poker betting, it is their luck that will determine the winner based on the cards that they pick. This is why luck is what gambling is all about and not skill. With all your skill, when it is not your lucky day, you must run at loss. Casino games are 100% on luck because of the alogarithm of the software.
Title: Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
Post by: luckyledger on April 12, 2024, 10:23:13 PM
How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?
Skills are unnecessary and will have no effect when used in games that are purely dependent on luck, but luck can have a great influence in games that involve skills.

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?
A well planned strategy will make a difference when it is a game based on skills, but still no effect on chance or luck based games, you remain at the mercy of the gambling gods.

I already wrote before, what if we view traits like patience, self-control, financial acumen, and caution as crucial skills?
I believe that gamblers who possess these skills often seem to encounter "luck" more often than those who depend solely on chance. This suggests a complex relationship between skill and luck, where being informed, patient, and disciplined may indirectly boost one’s odds of success, even in games typically dominated by chance.