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Title: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: vishaljais on April 08, 2024, 03:10:46 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Findingnemo on April 09, 2024, 08:30:54 AM
A 5- 10% volatile swing is just an everyday event that can happen for no reason at all and people will start to speculate and try to tie the knots.

As of now people assume the reason for the small surge is asset managers from China applying for ETFs but to me it's just a effect before the having event and we still due for big jump in the price before having then it will starts to correct.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: notblox1 on April 10, 2024, 10:54:40 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
There is no simple answer on this question.
Big players are moving coins around, some of them are selling and others are buying, but there is also leverage trading and liquidations.
I am expecting volatility to continue increasing in future because of upcoming bitcoin halvening.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: vegasus on April 10, 2024, 11:11:43 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
Bitcoin price volatility is no longer a secret. In fact, this is one of the characteristics of Bitcoin on the market, which everyone knows. And it is because of this that Bitcoin is also very worth it for both days and short terms. Now the problem is for people who still don't really understand this volatility, of course it can make them panic and also stress with price changes in Bitcoin which sometimes occur very quickly.

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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

Look, even in just 24 hours, the price difference can be quite large. We can also see what the ATH (highest price) and ATL (lowest price) price of Bitcoin is in 24 hours. Sometimes they are quite different. This is what short term holders use to take profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Baofeng on April 11, 2024, 12:16:27 AM
A 5- 10% volatile swing is just an everyday event that can happen for no reason at all and people will start to speculate and try to tie the knots.

As of now people assume the reason for the small surge is asset managers from China applying for ETFs but to me it's just a effect before the having event and we still due for big jump in the price before having then it will starts to correct.

Yes, and will say that if we go to that range, maybe we are already in a correction. For me a 3% is what we call swing, higher than that it could be technically called correction.

But in any case, it's either we take advantage of it or not. For a good trader, they can see it in a pattern and maybe will go for buy or sell to make quick money out of this volatility. Just pure taking profits for now, and then we go buy the dip again before the halving which is just around 9 days from now if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 11, 2024, 03:42:41 AM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Cryptocurrencies are volatile by nature, and this volatility can be both, rewarding and damaging at times because when we talk about volatility, there is positive and negative volatility which means the prices can go up and down. From $69k to $72k is just a $3k uptrend movement which isn't that much and this can happen without much of a reason and only a little bit increase in the asking prices by the buyers.

However, we know that the halving is just around the corner and the market tends to be more unstable during these times, so it can also be an effect of the halving event coming up but can be another reason as well.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: taufik123 on April 11, 2024, 09:27:06 AM
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But in any case, it's either we take advantage of it or not. For a good trader, they can see it in a pattern and maybe will go for buy or sell to make quick money out of this volatility. Just pure taking profits for now, and then we go buy the dip again before the halving which is just around 9 days from now if I'm not mistaken.
Now that the fluctuations continue to occur, and the price is indeed back again in the $70k area,
if you can take advantage of the situation when the decline occurs to $65k, then there will be little profit gained.

But I am not so bold to sell now, I just buy and continue to buy when the price continues to fall.
The main target remains an irreversible target.
Rather than having to sell early, I choose to hold and fill my bags when prices are cheaper.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 11, 2024, 01:52:45 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Anything can be, but mostly this has to do with the market demand and supply, bitcoin has always been volatile, if we invested and trades, we are likely to make some earning from it because you are likely not to be able to predict the market performance by the way you see it appear, but those you're seeing investing were also taking the risk to make their earnings, we are also close to the halving now, we should expect more of this as usual, that is why we are on a volatile network with bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 12, 2024, 03:52:00 AM
Anything can be, but mostly this has to do with the market demand and supply, bitcoin has always been volatile, if we invested and trades, we are likely to make some earning from it because you are likely not to be able to predict the market performance by the way you see it appear, but those you're seeing investing were also taking the risk to make their earnings, we are also close to the halving now, we should expect more of this as usual, that is why we are on a volatile network with bitcoin.

Well, the market has been pretty irregular this time around, so we can't be sure what the halving event might bring, it may make Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies go up but it can also make them go down because we have seen unusual movements in the market in the last couple of months. That being said, just like others, I'm optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will go up after the halving event.

To be honest, I feel that we might see the actual effects of a bull run only in 2025, and this year we won't see that much price action from Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, we might even see them going into correction mode by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Ambatman on April 12, 2024, 05:00:57 AM
Well, the market has been pretty irregular this time around, so we can't be sure what the halving event might bring, it may make Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies go up but it can also make them go down because we have seen unusual movements in the market in the last couple of months. That being said, just like others, I'm optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will go up after the halving event.

To be honest, I feel that we might see the actual effects of a bull run only in 2025, and this year we won't see that much price action from Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, we might even see them going into correction mode by the end of the year.
My thoughts exactly, if the market is expecting a huge fall we see a rise and vice versa. Yes Bitcoin is volatile but the past week has been unstable always moving from $67K-$71K range. After the halving there should be more volatility. Even a day or two to halving we can either expect a fall or a rise.well thinking short term shouldn't be the goal but the need to maximize profit makes us want to buy cheaper when we know it's mid to long term target are bullish.
The today's volatility occurred the same way others usually do. If Bitcoin falls because of a news it recovers after the news passes by. CPI report was released yesterday which caused the fall. Now is passed people are packing in. When it's unable to beat $73K investors will bail away from the market falls below $68K and they start rushing in. We have been experiencing a circle since then.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: TomPluz on April 12, 2024, 05:16:35 AM
This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

There is no question that Bitcoin (and the whole cryptocurrency market, for that matter) is one of the most volatile assets one can get into...there is no comparison for it and if one is to look closely at its volatility there are many factors for this occurrence and on top of that is the demand and supply dynamics, investor and user sentiments, government regulations, and media hype. Of course, lately we have seen how ETF market has become a big force for the sharp rise of its rise due to demands from these platforms as the indirect result of their clients' business. And when there is a strong confluence when most of these factors you can really feel its ups and downs happening all over. This has been the defining characteristic of Bitcoin and one of the top features that makes it a very exciting, rewarding, exhilarating and animating asset to do business with. During this bullish season, expect the price to change in some seconds either going north or going south...and with this kind of a set-up many traders are taking advantage of the opportunity to make money. Are you one of them?




Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 12, 2024, 07:16:39 AM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
Supply and Demand. That's all to it. There are more buyers than sellers hence, the price increased.

There are no significant events that happened in the last few days and TBH, this kind of market movement are pretty much normal especially if you're into crypto for a long time, and you've seen how the market is moving. You will also say that a ~$3,000 price increase or decrease is a very normal scenario.

Other factors that contribute to price change? This isn't related on what happened a few days ago, but this is in general. Factors such as the news can be one. Significant events can be one as well like the recent Spot Bitcoin ETF being accepted, and the upcoming Bitcoin halving event, and many more.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bisdak40 on April 12, 2024, 09:49:23 AM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Though decentralized, bitcoin's market can also be manipulated by the whales thus causing its price volatility. Good thing if we can ride positively the price wave but in you are on the opposite end then your millions could go easily to zero if you are trading this crypto.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 12, 2024, 03:31:04 PM
Many people are discussing the fact that the market is going up and down, but I think that this volatility of the market is not much of a problem no matter what you discuss. There must be such volatility in the market because the market will not only increase and the market will not only dump. If some candles in the market are positive and some candles are negative, then it can be seen that the market consensus is maintained. But the problem for us is that we get flustered by small fluctuations in the market which should not be at all. We have to be patient and see this volatility as normal.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bayu7adi on April 12, 2024, 06:55:16 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
The first is of course because the volume of transactions and also the amount of ownership are quite unequal, this is due to its decentralized nature, so that there is no centralized party who controls it fully. the law of demand and supply really applies and is very sensitive.

Market manipulation is also the main trigger for very rapid price fluctuations. yes... in essence, this is an asset with high risk, because wallets with large balances are always under public scrutiny, if it is detected that the wallet is active, then there will most likely be a slight shock to market conditions.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 12, 2024, 11:29:23 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
And now it drops even further, to $66,850. But isn't it something new that Bitcoin is very volatile? So, we don't need to be surprised or even panic. Because yes, Bitcoin is volatile, even very volatile. Sometimes even within 1 hour, the changes are quite drastic, so this is used by traders. However, it is also very risky because volatility can result in losing money too. So, this will again depend on each individual to handle it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 13, 2024, 12:14:16 AM
On a daily bases, there are millions of people who are buying Bitcoin regularly, so, there is always a steady in-flows and out-flow of money which contributes to the daily market swing of Bitcoin. If there is a huge push up in price or a downturn of the market, that is when people will actually begin to look for the factor that contributed to such dump or pump but for the normal little price volatility, it's normal for Bitcoin's volatile nature  and it's caused by demand. Other factors that contributes to high volatility is either a good economic news, huge dump by whales or when huge sum in also bought, etc.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 13, 2024, 04:27:50 PM
There is bound to be such volatility in the Bitcoin market and the volatility you mentioned is very normal. The higher the value of a coin, the more volatile the market will be. Since the price of bitcoin is between 70 thousand dollars and 72 thousand dollars, the candles of these coins will change by one dollar, ten dollars or twenty dollars, but the other coins that have a lower market value change by a few cents. I think there is no need to get too excited about this volatility in the market. Such volatility in the market is not new, there is such volatility in the Bitcoin market as well as in the market of all other coins, so we must take this issue as normal.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Sevi on April 13, 2024, 04:50:15 PM
It truly is volatile because it also depends on the market. It can swing wildly over short periods. We cannot rest assure that all the time its value would remain the same because there are factors that is needed to consider. And that is now in the hands of the one investing because high volatility may be a risk but can also be a good investment for long term.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 18, 2024, 05:22:36 AM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
And now it drops even further, to $66,850. But isn't it something new that Bitcoin is very volatile? So, we don't need to be surprised or even panic. Because yes, Bitcoin is volatile, even very volatile. Sometimes even within 1 hour, the changes are quite drastic, so this is used by traders. However, it is also very risky because volatility can result in losing money too. So, this will again depend on each individual to handle it.
Only newbies and inexperienced traders and HODLers would fumble in the face of a DIP. Experience teaches us that volatility is part of the things that makes bitcoin really special and different from most other assets and it's the reason why Bitcoin has attained such an exceptional height and still aiming for greater height.

Rather than panicking in the middle of a DIP, experience has taught us to use it to our own advantage, so while others are panicking and some are selling off their holdings, you as an experienced HODLer uses that as the best opportunity to buy more Bitcoin and HODL more.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 18, 2024, 12:31:12 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Bitcoin is a volatile cryptocurrency, you cannot accurately predict on what may comes in after with its market price, there is more that is going to occur along this halving period with bitcoin, we should always expect bitcoin  to perform well and this will only be to the best of of our interest if we had earlier invested in it, when the market rises, we earn through such and make profits on our investment.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 18, 2024, 03:08:19 PM
There is bound to be such volatility in the Bitcoin market and the volatility you mentioned is very normal. The higher the value of a coin, the more volatile the market will be. Since the price of bitcoin is between 70 thousand dollars and 72 thousand dollars, the candles of these coins will change by one dollar, ten dollars or twenty dollars, but the other coins that have a lower market value change by a few cents. I think there is no need to get too excited about this volatility in the market. Such volatility in the market is not new, there is such volatility in the Bitcoin market as well as in the market of all other coins, so we must take this issue as normal.

Volatility is not an issue if someone understands it, and it is something to be excited about because volatility is the reason why we make a profit in the market, imagine what would happen if all cryptocurrencies become stagnant all of a sudden, with no movement at all, will that be exciting? Of course not, it will be extremely boring, and investors and traders will start moving to other financial markets because no one would stay in a market that doesn't generate any profit.

So volatility is good, both positive and negative volatility are good. If you have already bought your desired assets and have your bag filled, you will enjoy positive volatility, and if you have not yet bought anything or want to buy more, you will enjoy negative volatility.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Gurujebs on April 18, 2024, 03:52:04 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Anytime Bitcoin is in bull run, the volatility is usually high so expect the price to jump from $60k to $70k under 24 hours, if such move can increase in such time then it shouldn't surprise you when Bitcoin dump in the same manner because bull run possess high volatility. It it was during the bear market, Bitcoin doesn't pump like that and it can't dump like this unless there is a very terrible news going on in the market.

As got the cause of the dump, when halving day is closed by its always expect for Bitcoin price to make some correction to some new supports for short term.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 18, 2024, 08:00:37 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?
Indeed BTC is highly volatile, I don't remember the exact reason for such a pump as I am replying quite late, but hey we are a few hours away from halving, and BTC is highly volatile still, As morning it was around $60k and now it's trading at $64k. I am shocked as I was expecting before halving it would touch the $58k target and then move down to $53k in the worst-case scenario. Well, BTC's volatility totally depends on Demand and Supply, and currently, the demand is high and is changing continuously but the supply is going to be cut.

So it's the major reason that BTC is highly volatile, BTW what are your expectations or what the reader of this post thinks about bull run, like when it can start after halving? I think BTC will start to lose its value more after halving as demand will decrease more and supply is already decreasing and it gives the vibes that it will consume the decrement but I think it won't.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 18, 2024, 09:43:36 PM
Volatility happens to be one the most amazing features that makes bitcoin and a few other altcoins to stand out from the normal traditional fiat.
Bitcoin's value is highly unpredictable which actually has its advantages and disadvantages too. Bitcoin has the potential for huge profits but the impossibility to actually predict the market is what makes it pretty hard on one hand and on the other hand makes bitcoin investment a lot more interesting and adventurous.

Bitcoin's Volatility could actually be turned to your own advantage of you master the act of HODLing for a very longtime, even when the market experiences some shocking DIPs, that's the easiest way you can actually reap the actual reward bitcoin has to offer
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 05, 2024, 03:36:51 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

Bitcoin is a volatile cryptocurrency, you cannot accurately predict on what may comes in after with its market price, there is more that is going to occur along this halving period with bitcoin, we should always expect bitcoin  to perform well and this will only be to the best of of our interest if we had earlier invested in it, when the market rises, we earn through such and make profits on our investment.
A lot of investors are already in deep panic, considering the current market situation, and sometimes I just ask myself whether they really understand the term Volatility and Long-term. Because understanding these two concepts will help anyone understand the market and how it works.
Bitcoin has had more serious DIPs than this in the past, but the most important thing is that it always recovers and establishes new ATHs and this is the most important aspect of Bitcoin.
Again, understanding the fact that Bitcoin is a long-term investment will also make you look beyond the short-term fluctuations and focus more on the long-term trajectory.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: jeraldskie11 on May 18, 2024, 05:10:49 PM
Volatility happens to be one the most amazing features that makes bitcoin and a few other altcoins to stand out from the normal traditional fiat.
Bitcoin's value is highly unpredictable which actually has its advantages and disadvantages too. Bitcoin has the potential for huge profits but the impossibility to actually predict the market is what makes it pretty hard on one hand and on the other hand makes bitcoin investment a lot more interesting and adventurous.

Bitcoin's Volatility could actually be turned to your own advantage of you master the act of HODLing for a very longtime, even when the market experiences some shocking DIPs, that's the easiest way you can actually reap the actual reward bitcoin has to offer
Yes, if Bitcoin is a stable coin, many people will still reject it today. Because of the volatility, investors are encouraged to invest in it because of the possible long-term profit when the price rises significantly. The creator of Bitcoin was so smart in thinking about the mechanics. If Satoshi were present today, many people would thank him for creating Bitcoin, which has changed countless people's lives.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: MrSpasybo on May 18, 2024, 09:57:56 PM
Yes, if Bitcoin is a stable coin, many people will still reject it today. Because of the volatility, investors are encouraged to invest in it because of the possible long-term profit when the price rises significantly. The creator of Bitcoin was so smart in thinking about the mechanics. If Satoshi were present today, many people would thank him for creating Bitcoin, which has changed countless people's lives.
High volatility is not enough, we need something more important from BTC: a price that consistently increases over time and BTC investors will profit from holding for more than 4 years. This is completely different from memecoins: their volatility is also very high, but we do not see stable growth in their price chart.

I am a long-term holder, I often don't care much about market volatility, I focus on DCA and identify potential profit-taking zones when the bullrun occurs. I consider high volatility to be a good basis for BTC and the crypto market to get better media coverage, attract the attention of potential investors and create a foundation for the next cycles.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Baofeng on May 19, 2024, 02:48:21 AM
Yes, if Bitcoin is a stable coin, many people will still reject it today. Because of the volatility, investors are encouraged to invest in it because of the possible long-term profit when the price rises significantly. The creator of Bitcoin was so smart in thinking about the mechanics. If Satoshi were present today, many people would thank him for creating Bitcoin, which has changed countless people's lives.
High volatility is not enough, we need something more important from BTC: a price that consistently increases over time and BTC investors will profit from holding for more than 4 years. This is completely different from memecoins: their volatility is also very high, but we do not see stable growth in their price chart.

I am a long-term holder, I often don't care much about market volatility, I focus on DCA and identify potential profit-taking zones when the bullrun occurs. I consider high volatility to be a good basis for BTC and the crypto market to get better media coverage, attract the attention of potential investors and create a foundation for the next cycles.

Yes, but I guess in the beginning, everyone here is concern about Bitcoin's volality as this is the first time that we have seen this kind of investment or asset. Although I have some stocks as well, but didn't know at the start that there's a lot of ups and down.

But then when we gain experience and uses it, then we identify strategies like DCA and HODLing or even trading to be a better options and then not worry about what the market will throw at us. And then the cycle itself, we undestand how to take advantage of a bear market, which for some they don't wanted to see. But for us, it's that time to accumulate as we can buy cheap Bitcoin and wait for the next cycle to occur before we sell and make profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: sheenshane on May 19, 2024, 03:17:52 AM
But then when we gain experience and uses it, then we identify strategies like DCA and HODLing or even trading to be a better options and then not worry about what the market will throw at us. And then the cycle itself, we undestand how to take advantage of a bear market, which for some they don't wanted to see. But for us, it's that time to accumulate as we can buy cheap Bitcoin and wait for the next cycle to occur before we sell and make profits.
For those people who understand the sentiment of Bitcoin may think about this because they know that Bitcoin is quite good if you will hold it for a long-term purpose, not a short-term holding.  The opportunity to make a profit will always be there even though how the price volatility is high because we know that Bitcoin always makes an ATH price when the right time comes.

A market correction is a truly great opportunity to enter the market and doing DCA is always a good idea.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: TomPluz on May 19, 2024, 05:14:33 AM
Bitcoin's Volatility could actually be turned to your own advantage of you master the act of HODLing for a very longtime, even when the market experiences some shocking DIPs, that's the easiest way you can actually reap the actual reward bitcoin has to offer.

I don't think Bitcoin will be as famous today if there is no volatility attached to it. We have to remember that volatility can mean the asset can go up or go down in no time at all...and we have to understand that within volatility there is always that opportunity to make money and traders know and fully grasp this concept and they are taking advantage of it. Now, if Bitcoin has been running like gold, I don't think there can be more people to get interested with it as an asset as right now Bitcoin definitely is more popular than gold (though gold is way so above in marketcap). The most important thing to do is to continue investing with Bitcoin and then hold for a long time...so take advantage if there is an obvious dip in the market and be a winner years from now.




Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: jeraldskie11 on May 19, 2024, 08:43:28 AM
Yes, if Bitcoin is a stable coin, many people will still reject it today. Because of the volatility, investors are encouraged to invest in it because of the possible long-term profit when the price rises significantly. The creator of Bitcoin was so smart in thinking about the mechanics. If Satoshi were present today, many people would thank him for creating Bitcoin, which has changed countless people's lives.
High volatility is not enough, we need something more important from BTC: a price that consistently increases over time and BTC investors will profit from holding for more than 4 years. This is completely different from memecoins: their volatility is also very high, but we do not see stable growth in their price chart.

I am a long-term holder, I often don't care much about market volatility, I focus on DCA and identify potential profit-taking zones when the bullrun occurs. I consider high volatility to be a good basis for BTC and the crypto market to get better media coverage, attract the attention of potential investors and create a foundation for the next cycles.
As days go by, we learned that volatility is not enough. And if the coin is so volatile there is a high risk. So we also need sustainability in the price and we all know it won't happen overnight. I also think Satoshi knows and expected it already. In the first launched of Bitcoin, Satoshi don't want to hype Bitcoin because he wants to develop the sustainability of its price. Imagine, if most supply of Bitcoin own by a one person, he can easily dump the price and that is what Satoshi doesn't want to happen. Look at Bitcoin now, the price is sustainable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: God Of Thunder on May 19, 2024, 03:31:46 PM
I am a long-term holder, I often don't care much about market volatility, I focus on DCA and identify potential profit-taking zones when the bullrun occurs. I consider high volatility to be a good basis for BTC and the crypto market to get better media coverage, attract the attention of potential investors and create a foundation for the next cycles.

Volatility is one reason we get a chance to buy the dip. Many of us look for a chance to buy more once the market goes up and regret not buying when the price is low. Fortunately, the market has moved in both directions over time, and we have had a chance to buy cheap coins. One of my friends, "Crypto Library," was telling me that I was looking for a dip to accumulate more. But unfortunately, when the market moves to lower trend, we wait for further dump and miss that opportunity again.  ;D

Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Power420 on May 19, 2024, 04:12:26 PM
Just today morning, I saw bitcoin price was around $69,000 and now its more than $72,000. This shows how volatile and rewarding this market can be. But can someone explain, what caused such a big jump in such a short time and what are the other factors that contribute to the price change?

There is no fixed rule stating that the price of Bitcoin will always go up, the price of Bitcoin is uncertain and it is normal for it to go up and down. But it's a bull market every four years, realizing this cycle that Bitcoin prices can reach highs. The Bitcoin ETF approval was the reason why the Bitcoin group reached its peak in April 2024. As the price of Bitcoin has reached its all-time high, it is now just waiting for the next bull run to begin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 19, 2024, 10:13:07 PM
I am a long-term holder, I often don't care much about market volatility, I focus on DCA and identify potential profit-taking zones when the bullrun occurs. I consider high volatility to be a good basis for BTC and the crypto market to get better media coverage, attract the attention of potential investors and create a foundation for the next cycles.

Volatility is one reason we get a chance to buy the dip. Many of us look for a chance to buy more once the market goes up and regret not buying when the price is low. Fortunately, the market has moved in both directions over time, and we have had a chance to buy cheap coins. One of my friends, "Crypto Library," was telling me that I was looking for a dip to accumulate more. But unfortunately, when the market moves to lower trend, we wait for further dump and miss that opportunity again.  ;D
Inasmuch as Volatility has its advantages, it also has its disadvantages too, Volatility has made the market really unpredictable, and for those who prefer to time the market, it can be really disadvantageous to them as they can not really predict exactly when the price is low enough to buy more and when the price is high enough to sell, one can end up buying, thinking its the lowest the coin can go and then end up seeing more reds, thereby resulting to losses, and one can also end up selling at a price he feels he's made enough profits, and then the real bull run kicks in and he regrets selling.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: God Of Thunder on May 20, 2024, 03:27:42 PM
Inasmuch as Volatility has its advantages, it also has its disadvantages too, Volatility has made the market really unpredictable, and for those who prefer to time the market, it can be really disadvantageous to them as they can not really predict exactly when the price is low enough to buy more and when the price is high enough to sell, one can end up buying, thinking its the lowest the coin can go and then end up seeing more reds, thereby resulting to losses, and one can also end up selling at a price he feels he's made enough profits, and then the real bull run kicks in and he regrets selling.

Do you believe that being unpredictable is good? I believe that it is good that the crypto market is not predictable. Otherwise, people with more money will always have more money, and poor guys will never be able to make money. If people can predict the future market, they will loot the market, and there will be nothing for average people. It is the nature of cryptocurrency, not only Bitcoin.

You and I sometimes make money just because others made mistakes. Have you ever considered how we profit from the crypto market and where the money comes from? Of course, others are investing in it and losing, which is why we can profit. If everyone holds and does not sell, the market won't move, and it won't be volatile. I am saying this because I want to point out that everything has two sides. Positive and Negative.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: taufik123 on May 28, 2024, 06:12:21 AM
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Market manipulation is also the main trigger for very rapid price fluctuations. yes... in essence, this is an asset with high risk, because wallets with large balances are always under public scrutiny, if it is detected that the wallet is active, then there will most likely be a slight shock to market conditions.
This is very conditional in my opinion, even though old wallets with a lot of bitcoins are starting to move,
but the Bitcoins are just being moved and not sold.
A major shock will occur when some whales move and then sell some of the Bitcoin they are holding.

But if indeed they want to sell, they will wait for a higher price, not the current price which will definitely make the market crash.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 28, 2024, 07:54:45 AM
Many could not identify the reason why bitcoin is volatile, because in this is the reason why some will have to make profit from it while some other people investing will also find an entry point in it to invest and hold, bitcoin is not a fix value digital currency, instead, we need to study and know the best position and time we are going to invest, in bitcoin, we need to acquire for its knowledge before investing in the volatile currency.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 29, 2024, 08:07:34 AM
Inasmuch as Volatility has its advantages, it also has its disadvantages too, Volatility has made the market really unpredictable, and for those who prefer to time the market, it can be really disadvantageous to them as they can not really predict exactly when the price is low enough to buy more and when the price is high enough to sell, one can end up buying, thinking its the lowest the coin can go and then end up seeing more reds, thereby resulting to losses, and one can also end up selling at a price he feels he's made enough profits, and then the real bull run kicks in and he regrets selling.

Do you believe that being unpredictable is good? I believe that it is good that the crypto market is not predictable. Otherwise, people with more money will always have more money, and poor guys will never be able to make money. If people can predict the future market, they will loot the market, and there will be nothing for average people. It is the nature of cryptocurrency, not only Bitcoin.
Indeed, it's only fair that the crypto market doesn't only benefit a particular set of persons or favours some persons over the others, it gives everyone the same opportunity to earn according to their equivalence, everyone have exactly the same advantages and opportunities to earn, because everyone share the same risks, whether rich or poor, they both risk their money and both share the possibility of losses and gains.

You're also very correct that if the market were to be bias and favoured the rich over the poor, or that profits were determined or guaranteed by how big and large your investment was, then the rich would indeed exploit and loot the crypto market that there'll be absolutely nothing left for the poor.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: God Of Thunder on May 29, 2024, 05:27:28 PM
Many could not identify the reason why bitcoin is volatile, because in this is the reason why some will have to make profit from it while some other people investing will also find an entry point in it to invest and hold, bitcoin is not a fix value digital currency, instead, we need to study and know the best position and time we are going to invest, in bitcoin, we need to acquire for its knowledge before investing in the volatile currency.

People who invest in Bitcoin without knowing it properly say Bitcoin is a scam because they did not do proper research. Volatility is one of the ways to make money. People open trade positions with the hope that Bitcoin will move and they will make money. Eventually, they make money, but some others lose because they did not open the position at the right time.

I did not invest in Bitcoin right after hearing that Bitcoin may grow in the future. I waited a lot and I stayed around it and learned more and more about its features and how it works. I have observed the market for a long time before I started accumulating my Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: MrSpasybo on May 29, 2024, 08:34:27 PM
Volatility is one reason we get a chance to buy the dip. Many of us look for a chance to buy more once the market goes up and regret not buying when the price is low. Fortunately, the market has moved in both directions over time, and we have had a chance to buy cheap coins. One of my friends, "Crypto Library," was telling me that I was looking for a dip to accumulate more. But unfortunately, when the market moves to lower trend, we wait for further dump and miss that opportunity again.  ;D
Well, I don't think high volatility is a condition for us to buy-the-dip. Accumulation of assets can be done even in less volatile markets, such as commodities or stocks. High volatility only brings the opportunity for higher profits and larger losses in a short period of time.

For BTC, in terms of technical analysis, high volatility allows us to easily identify downtrends using a linear trend. This helps us to identify when the BTC price has stopped falling sharply for accumulation or growth. This is really useful for those who want to DCA BTC in the accumulation zone.

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Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 31, 2024, 06:04:29 PM
Everything about bitcoin starts from learning and discovery, if we understand what is being required of us to know about bitcoin, then we are going to realized the reason for every event and activities happening in the crypto networks and we are going to make use of them for our own source of information in knowing what to do, understanding bitcoin volatility is also important because it helps us know how to speculate well on the right and appropriate time for making an investment.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 04, 2024, 10:20:03 AM
Everything about bitcoin starts from learning and discovery, if we understand what is being required of us to know about bitcoin, then we are going to realized the reason for every event and activities happening in the crypto networks and we are going to make use of them for our own source of information in knowing what to do, understanding bitcoin volatility is also important because it helps us know how to speculate well on the right and appropriate time for making an investment.
Very true.
I believe one of the problems a lot of people encounter in the crypto space is misunderstanding and misconceptions of these suspicious events entailed in the crypto world, or should I say, misinformation, and this often leads to wrong and hasty decision making that often leads to losses.

A good example is the bitcoin halving and its effects, a lot of people had crazy misconception of the halving and its effects, it's true that the halving brings good tidings to the price of Bitcoin but fail to realize that this process often takes time before it can be implemented. For those who were misinformed, ended up acting too early due to FOMO and it landed them in loss, making them feel that bitcoin is scam or the halving has no effect on Bitcoin price.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: TomPluz on June 04, 2024, 04:05:13 PM
A good example is the bitcoin halving and its effects, a lot of people had crazy misconception of the halving and its effects, it's true that the halving brings good tidings to the price of Bitcoin but fail to realize that this process often takes time before it can be implemented. For those who were misinformed, ended up acting too early due to FOMO and it landed them in loss, making them feel that bitcoin is scam or the halving has no effect on Bitcoin price.

People who are assuming those things on Bitcoin have no business in the Bitcoin market because certainly they failed to educate themselves first of the ins and out of this digital asset. For all the excitement that Bitcoin can offer to anyone whether a trader or an investor, there is some learning curve that one has to invest time to learn with. And failure to do so can mean that there is more chance of getting nowhere and even losing some money as FUD can easily come in as a big influencer of one's decision pattern. Now, when a person is just starting the best thing to do is to start small and HODL for some time to feel the market dynamics before diving for more into the sea, so to speak. A learned guy on Bitcoin will not anymore be shocked with its high volatility and will take it as an opportunity to make more money.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bayu7adi on June 05, 2024, 08:24:01 AM
Now, when a person is just starting the best thing to do is to start small and HODL for some time to feel the market dynamics before diving for more into the sea, so to speak. A learned guy on Bitcoin will not anymore be shocked with its high volatility and will take it as an opportunity to make more money.
This is the best practice to be able to study volatility.... there is no need to immediately use large amounts, remembering that at the beginning of each person's journey, it is necessary to analyze the risks first with small amounts of money. However, to date there is still a lot that is wrong about their response to the cryptocurrency market. My assumption is, they were instigated by screenshots shared on social media which showed huge profits of up to hundreds of% with Bitcoin. However, the big mistake is that these are the results of trading, while the process to get them is not included either. so many new people think that trading is easy. Even though the process of becoming a trader who is always profitable is very difficult.

I agree with the concept of using small money to understand the dynamics of the cryptocurrency market including its volatility. That way, someone should get insight and be able to learn about the price movements of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies without having to risk a lot of their wealth.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 05, 2024, 09:46:13 AM
A good example is the bitcoin halving and its effects, a lot of people had crazy misconception of the halving and its effects, it's true that the halving brings good tidings to the price of Bitcoin but fail to realize that this process often takes time before it can be implemented. For those who were misinformed, ended up acting too early due to FOMO and it landed them in loss, making them feel that bitcoin is scam or the halving has no effect on Bitcoin price.

People who are assuming those things on Bitcoin have no business in the Bitcoin market because certainly they failed to educate themselves first of the ins and out of this digital asset. For all the excitement that Bitcoin can offer to anyone whether a trader or an investor, there is some learning curve that one has to invest time to learn with. And failure to do so can mean that there is more chance of getting nowhere and even losing some money as FUD can easily come in as a big influencer of one's decision pattern. Now, when a person is just starting the best thing to do is to start small and HODL for some time to feel the market dynamics before diving for more into the sea, so to speak. A learned guy on Bitcoin will not anymore be shocked with its high volatility and will take it as an opportunity to make more money.
Sometimes it's really not their fault.
Some get caught up with the excitement around Bitcoin and it's potential for profitability, and this could make a person forget to do proper research about Bitcoin.

And again, you know one can never learn everything by doing researches, sometimes you need to make certain mistakes and then gain experiences from this mistakes.
Experience they say are the best teachers, and that applies also in the crypto world.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Baofeng on June 05, 2024, 10:17:16 PM
A good example is the bitcoin halving and its effects, a lot of people had crazy misconception of the halving and its effects, it's true that the halving brings good tidings to the price of Bitcoin but fail to realize that this process often takes time before it can be implemented. For those who were misinformed, ended up acting too early due to FOMO and it landed them in loss, making them feel that bitcoin is scam or the halving has no effect on Bitcoin price.

People who are assuming those things on Bitcoin have no business in the Bitcoin market because certainly they failed to educate themselves first of the ins and out of this digital asset. For all the excitement that Bitcoin can offer to anyone whether a trader or an investor, there is some learning curve that one has to invest time to learn with. And failure to do so can mean that there is more chance of getting nowhere and even losing some money as FUD can easily come in as a big influencer of one's decision pattern. Now, when a person is just starting the best thing to do is to start small and HODL for some time to feel the market dynamics before diving for more into the sea, so to speak. A learned guy on Bitcoin will not anymore be shocked with its high volatility and will take it as an opportunity to make more money.
Sometimes it's really not their fault.
Some get caught up with the excitement around Bitcoin and it's potential for profitability, and this could make a person forget to do proper research about Bitcoin.

And again, you know one can never learn everything by doing researches, sometimes you need to make certain mistakes and then gain experiences from this mistakes.
Experience they say are the best teachers, and that applies also in the crypto world.

Or probably what they really heard from social media influencers, that Bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme so many investors fall for it. I do remember during the height of the bull run in 2021, there's a lot of crypto influencer, saying how big they make it in crypto and even showing bundles and bundles of money along the way.

But after that bull run and we went on a bear market, I haven't heard about those individuals, hopefully those who've they influence have study the market then, that it takes some time before we can make money here as it has cycle and there are no such thing as parabolic rise because Bitcoin and crypto in general are very volatile.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 05, 2024, 11:59:12 PM
Only newbies and inexperienced traders and HODLers would fumble in the face of a DIP. Experience teaches us that volatility is part of the things that makes bitcoin really special and different from most other assets and it's the reason why Bitcoin has attained such an exceptional height and still aiming for greater height.
Yes, newbies and inexperienced people will have a bigger chance to fail. But those experienced people who have no patient, they will also have the chance to fail as well. So only people who have good patient and experience that will have a chance to succeed. However, the knowledge has a big role, too. People who have no knowledge, they probably become not patient because they don't feel optimistic about the future of Bitcoin. They will easily panic and sell for losses.

Rather than panicking in the middle of a DIP, experience has taught us to use it to our own advantage, so while others are panicking and some are selling off their holdings, you as an experienced HODLer uses that as the best opportunity to buy more Bitcoin and HODL more.
Smart people will take the advantage from the dip. They will accumulate Bitcoin as many as possible. The red market won't last forever, it may change to green market after few months. So they won't miss the chance to buy Bitcoin at cheap price whenever there is big dump in the market.

Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bhadz on June 06, 2024, 05:49:06 AM
Bitcoin's volatility is a blessing to all of us. You'll never see an asset that's highly volatile as this one and it's very rewarding. You only need to be acceptable with the risk that it has and then be chill with the wild ride that it offers. For the old investors, with what I mean are the experienced on this one. You only need to be patient and don't mind all the negativity of the market when comes unexpectedly on a sideway.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 10, 2024, 10:43:03 PM
Smart people will take the advantage from the dip. They will accumulate Bitcoin as many as possible. The red market won't last forever, it may change to green market after few months. So they won't miss the chance to buy Bitcoin at cheap price whenever there is big dump in the market.
Even some investors who already have several years of experience in the crypto world still fall into the traps of the volatility. Even with several years of experience, some investors are still tempted to sell during a DIP or buying in the middle of a bull run, and they end up making terrible mistakes due to FOMO.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bayu7adi on June 11, 2024, 04:18:55 AM
Bitcoin's volatility is a blessing to all of us. You'll never see an asset that's highly volatile as this one and it's very rewarding. You only need to be acceptable with the risk that it has and then be chill with the wild ride that it offers. For the old investors, with what I mean are the experienced on this one. You only need to be patient and don't mind all the negativity of the market when comes unexpectedly on a sideway.
Don't make someone too confident without telling them the facts... some people who are involved in Bitcoin trading have also experienced defeats, resulting in losses because maybe they don't have the experience and mentality of buying and selling in cryptocurrency. Bitcoin may be profitable now, because since the beginning of the year, the price of Bitcoin has now been bullish from $35k to $70k... of course you are happy now if you have had bitcoin for a long time.

But recommending someone to buy at the current price, I don't think is something worth prioritizing. I prefer holding assets for now, there are those who say there will be another bullish moment until it hits the next ATH, but that's just a prediction and we don't have the right to believe it 100%.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 11, 2024, 04:46:21 AM
Bitcoin's volatility is a blessing to all of us. You'll never see an asset that's highly volatile as this one and it's very rewarding. You only need to be acceptable with the risk that it has and then be chill with the wild ride that it offers. For the old investors, with what I mean are the experienced on this one. You only need to be patient and don't mind all the negativity of the market when comes unexpectedly on a sideway.
Not to all. :)
If you will ask all of the investors with regards to volatility, there will always be some who will be saying that they lost huge amounts of money because of volatility.

Volatility is a double-edged sword, and it will depend on us an investor on how we maximize it. Many made huge money because of it, but many lost their money because of it as well. Like you said, being patient is what we need to do in order for us to make profit not only with Bitcoin or crypto, but in all asset classes. Also, don't mind what's happening with the market, and just focus on investing. Focus on Dollar-Cost Averaging. Just ignore the noises around and focus on your strategy. :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 11, 2024, 03:34:55 PM
Bitcoin's volatility is a blessing to all of us. You'll never see an asset that's highly volatile as this one and it's very rewarding. You only need to be acceptable with the risk that it has and then be chill with the wild ride that it offers. For the old investors, with what I mean are the experienced on this one. You only need to be patient and don't mind all the negativity of the market when comes unexpectedly on a sideway.
Not to all. :)
If you will ask all of the investors with regards to volatility, there will always be some who will be saying that they lost huge amounts of money because of volatility.

Volatility is a double-edged sword, and it will depend on us an investor on how we maximize it. Many made huge money because of it, but many lost their money because of it as well. Like you said, being patient is what we need to do in order for us to make profit not only with Bitcoin or crypto, but in all asset classes. Also, don't mind what's happening with the market, and just focus on investing. Focus on Dollar-Cost Averaging. Just ignore the noises around and focus on your strategy. :)
Market volatility is one of the things that makes cryptocurrency investment so dynamic and different from other forms of investment, and Volatility can only be a problem when an investor has invested on the wrong coin (shitcoins) and when an investor lacks the patience and always considering the short-term benefits of the investment.

Volatility is an inevitable part of the crypto market which infact actually makes the market very profitable when an investor learns to use its effects to his own advantage.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Sim_card on June 13, 2024, 05:28:23 PM
Bitcoin's volatility is a blessing to all of us. You'll never see an asset that's highly volatile as this one and it's very rewarding. You only need to be acceptable with the risk that it has and then be chill with the wild ride that it offers. For the old investors, with what I mean are the experienced on this one. You only need to be patient and don't mind all the negativity of the market when comes unexpectedly on a sideway.
Not to all. :)
If you will ask all of the investors with regards to volatility, there will always be some who will be saying that they lost huge amounts of money because of volatility.

Volatility is a double-edged sword, and it will depend on us an investor on how we maximize it. Many made huge money because of it, but many lost their money because of it as well. Like you said, being patient is what we need to do in order for us to make profit not only with Bitcoin or crypto, but in all asset classes. Also, don't mind what's happening with the market, and just focus on investing. Focus on Dollar-Cost Averaging. Just ignore the noises around and focus on your strategy. :)
Market volatility is one of the things that makes cryptocurrency investment so dynamic and different from other forms of investment, and Volatility can only be a problem when an investor has invested on the wrong coin (shitcoins) and when an investor lacks the patience and always considering the short-term benefits of the investment.

Volatility is an inevitable part of the crypto market which infact actually makes the market very profitable when an investor learns to use its effects to his own advantage.
It is a norm that it is not everyone that will benefit from cryptocurrency, some will run at huge loss and likewise, some will make huge profit. This is why we must not invest on coins without any potential or coins that was just released into the market because no one knows if it is a pump and dump project. Stick to coins with big market cap that has being existing for a long time. Bitcoin is good to invest in, and the best way to benefit from the volatile nature is to invest in a long-term with the amount of money that you will not need for long. This will limit the risk attached to bitcoin volatile nature.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 13, 2024, 11:19:03 PM
It is a norm that it is not everyone that will benefit from cryptocurrency, some will run at huge loss and likewise, some will make huge profit. This is why we must not invest on coins without any potential or coins that was just released into the market because no one knows if it is a pump and dump project. Stick to coins with big market cap that has being existing for a long time. Bitcoin is good to invest in, and the best way to benefit from the volatile nature is to invest in a long-term with the amount of money that you will not need for long. This will limit the risk attached to bitcoin volatile nature.
Apparently, losses are inevitable in the crypto market, people who benefits or gains, do so at the expense and losses of others, so people will continue to lose and so would people also continue to gain, so it's up to every investor to choose where you'd like to be, if you'd benefit from others' losses or let others benefit from your losses

When it comes to crypto investments, the safest and most reliable so fàr remains Bitcoin, so every other token, old or new are unsafe and absolutely unreliable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Baofeng on June 23, 2024, 04:05:11 AM
It is a norm that it is not everyone that will benefit from cryptocurrency, some will run at huge loss and likewise, some will make huge profit. This is why we must not invest on coins without any potential or coins that was just released into the market because no one knows if it is a pump and dump project. Stick to coins with big market cap that has being existing for a long time. Bitcoin is good to invest in, and the best way to benefit from the volatile nature is to invest in a long-term with the amount of money that you will not need for long. This will limit the risk attached to bitcoin volatile nature.
Apparently, losses are inevitable in the crypto market, people who benefits or gains, do so at the expense and losses of others, so people will continue to lose and so would people also continue to gain, so it's up to every investor to choose where you'd like to be, if you'd benefit from others' losses or let others benefit from your losses

I mean that's the game here, there are losers and gainers it's unfortunate, but it's how it's been designed or at least when Bitcoin become an asset and you also have to add volatility in the equation.

When it comes to crypto investments, the safest and most reliable so fàr remains Bitcoin, so every other token, old or new are unsafe and absolutely unreliable.

Yes, that's why many of us stick with Bitcoin although we know that there are a lot of altcoins that can give us more profit, x50-x100 if you are lucky. But it's very hard to identify what projects can give you that, so that is the risk there. It's the unknown, but if you are willing to take it, then so be it. However, with Bitcoin as you main investment, you can sleep well at not and not to think that the next day, the prices will go to 0 or nose dive very hard that you will lose a lot of money.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: EluguHcman on June 23, 2024, 07:41:28 PM
There's absolutely no technology or attestation to that but we only know that the demands and supplies of Bitcoin is what drags the price of Bitcoin.

And if I will have a say to that, I Will say it could be a course that probably there was a high volume of demands then.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 23, 2024, 09:09:35 PM
There's absolutely no technology or attestation to that but we only know that the demands and supplies of Bitcoin is what drags the price of Bitcoin.

And if I will have a say to that, I Will say it could be a course that probably there was a high volume of demands then.
Demand and supply is a great tool when talking about things that influences and drives the price of bitcoin but besides it, there are many more factors that equally play major roles to drive bitcoin price, there's global economic conditions, there's market sentiments, government regulations, there are also technological advancement to mention but few.

These factors has various ways they affect bitcoin in their own special ways because Bitcoin price as we know it is quite sensitive to change in the broader economic landscape, which makes it a really volatile asset.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: taufik123 on June 25, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
Demand and supply is a great tool when talking about things that influences and drives the price of bitcoin but besides it, there are many more factors that equally play major roles to drive bitcoin price, there's global economic conditions, there's market sentiments, government regulations, there are also technological advancement to mention but few.
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Global economic conditions and government regulations are the most influential factors.
Just look at how the regulations on how the application of interest rates make the crypto market more volatile, if interest rates rise then the price will get more and more and this is also a factor of the SEC's policies that often make the crypto market collapse.

But in the end it will bounce back with a lot of positive news, and it will always be.
It is a cycle that never changes every year and always happens.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Crwth on June 25, 2024, 06:30:18 PM
I am bothered with the spelling of the subject in the post by OP. You know that bitcoin is really “votalile”. Lol.

Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 26, 2024, 10:00:12 PM
I am bothered with the spelling of the subject in the post by OP. You know that bitcoin is really “votalile”. Lol.
Lol, can you believe I've been on the thread for months, and actively participating in the discussion but it didn't really occir to me or come to my notice that there was a typo error on the thread subject.

I know it's merely a typographical error, which anyone can experience, I just find it quite amusing that I never forget once noticed it, despite being active on the thread, lol.

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Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Indeed, the volatility of Bitcoin is exactly what makes it very profitable, and that's why only those who knows how to use it to their advantage profits from the market, but those who do not know how to navigate the bitcoin market and use the volatility to their advantage always end in loss.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: vegasus on June 29, 2024, 10:24:51 PM
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Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Indeed, the volatility of Bitcoin is exactly what makes it very profitable, and that's why only those who knows how to use it to their advantage profits from the market, but those who do not know how to navigate the bitcoin market and use the volatility to their advantage always end in loss.
Yes, actually as long as we can take advantage of and optimize volatility, it's actually not that bad. in fact, tarders sometimes like it too. As long as you don't easily panic-attack, and you can control your emotions, this shouldn't bother you too much. The use of volatility by traders is nothing new. '

It's just that, some people who may still be new always think that volatility, very significant increases and decreases in prices in unexpected times are really bad results. Again, it depends on what we plan and what strategy we set.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Makus on June 30, 2024, 12:56:24 PM
Even some investors who already have several years of experience in the crypto world still fall into the traps of the volatility. Even with several years of experience, some investors are still tempted to sell during a DIP or buying in the middle of a bull run, and they end up making terrible mistakes due to FOMO.

Indeed, we still have experts who fall and make losses via trading and that is why I don recommend trading to anyone because, we never know when changes in the market can occur, and there are times where even Bitcoin network refuses to respond to manipulation on time, so even whales could make mistakes in their trading. But when you employ the use of holding only on Bitcoin investment the risk of losing your money becomes minimal that, you are only affect by volatility and probably mistakes caused by yourself. There is no doubt trading in the hands of a good trader is likely to be profitable than holding but considering the risk tolerance and knowledge it requires for one to make good trading decisions, it's better off you just make your accumulation and hold in peace.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 02, 2024, 12:53:54 PM
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Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Indeed, the volatility of Bitcoin is exactly what makes it very profitable, and that's why only those who knows how to use it to their advantage profits from the market, but those who do not know how to navigate the bitcoin market and use the volatility to their advantage always end in loss.
Yes, actually as long as we can take advantage of and optimize volatility, it's actually not that bad. in fact, tarders sometimes like it too. As long as you don't easily panic-attack, and you can control your emotions, this shouldn't bother you too much. The use of volatility by traders is nothing new.
The only way someone can avoid the panic attacks that comes with volatility and temporary market fluctuations is by considering Bitcoin for its long-term trajectory and potentials, in other words, being a HODLer.
Because when you HODL for the long-term, you feel less pressured about short-term fluctuations, whether the market is in dip or bearish, as long as you're not after short-term gain but HODLing and aiming for long-term gain, you'll feel less tensed.
People who mostly feel the panic attacks are short-term traders who are only in the market for the short-term profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Asiska02 on July 02, 2024, 02:40:21 PM
Smart people will take the advantage from the dip. They will accumulate Bitcoin as many as possible. The red market won't last forever, it may change to green market after few months. So they won't miss the chance to buy Bitcoin at cheap price whenever there is big dump in the market.
Even some investors who already have several years of experience in the crypto world still fall into the traps of the volatility. Even with several years of experience, some investors are still tempted to sell during a DIP or buying in the middle of a bull run, and they end up making terrible mistakes due to FOMO.

I don’t blame them because FOMO can happen to anyone no matter how perfect you are and don’t want to be controlled by the market movement. Investors that are experienced and have spent more years investing their assets into bitcoin are sometimes carried away by speculations too and are also scared of whale decisions that can easily trigger the movement of the market.

Some big investors make mistakes and some mistakes are costly that they can’t be reversed again. Selling at dip can also be as a result of their expected target falling below the price it will be at the time of exiting the market or taking partial interest. This is not common though, but in some instances, it can be the case of them selling at dip.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Baofeng on July 02, 2024, 03:12:24 PM
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Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Indeed, the volatility of Bitcoin is exactly what makes it very profitable, and that's why only those who knows how to use it to their advantage profits from the market, but those who do not know how to navigate the bitcoin market and use the volatility to their advantage always end in loss.
Yes, actually as long as we can take advantage of and optimize volatility, it's actually not that bad. in fact, tarders sometimes like it too. As long as you don't easily panic-attack, and you can control your emotions, this shouldn't bother you too much. The use of volatility by traders is nothing new.
The only way someone can avoid the panic attacks that comes with volatility and temporary market fluctuations is by considering Bitcoin for its long-term trajectory and potentials, in other words, being a HODLer.
Because when you HODL for the long-term, you feel less pressured about short-term fluctuations, whether the market is in dip or bearish, as long as you're not after short-term gain but HODLing and aiming for long-term gain, you'll feel less tensed.
People who mostly feel the panic attacks are short-term traders who are only in the market for the short-term profits.

That is true, but you really need to experience panic first before you can see the bigger picture. At least you have to suffer in the beginning before you toughen yourself in the market. So it will take time, the beauty of the market is that you can reset anytime.

Or the best case scenario is you buy at bearish trend and then start your journey then. So it will take at least full cycle of 4 years before you realized your gains but it's going to be worth if you are going to hold that long.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 24, 2024, 10:16:12 AM
Bitcoin is the first crypto coin to be created and one of the best crypto investment right now in the world and also the best crypto coin, Bitcoin votality is part of Bitcoin growth and if you check the history of Bitcoin you will see that it has been part of it's growth and that should not even bother you,
One thing that causes Bitcoin to fall and rise is because of those people buying and selling huge amount of Bitcoin, those people are the ones that are making Bitcoin fall and rise when they buy in large quantity the Bitcoin price will rise and when they sell in large quantity the Bitcoin price will fall this is one cause of Bitcoin votality.
One don't have to fear when ever there's a dip in Bitcoin because is just one way in which one can accumulate Bitcoin in a cheap rate, some newbies always panic when  ever there's a dip in Bitcoin and some will go as far as selling off there Bitcoin and end up losing there money and that is why before starting Bitcoin investment you need to first of all know about how Bitcoin works you need to also go through the history of Bitcoin and it's growth it will help you know the right thing to do at the right time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Bobcrypto on August 24, 2024, 03:40:50 PM
When we talk about Bitcoin volatility, I always consider the Bitcoin total supply which just limited to $21 million, a great drive for it's market sentiments in my opinion.
Now, besides the limited supply of Bitcoin, there are many reasons why Bitcoin is volatile. these include, Demand, scarcity, Speculation, FOMO, Fears etc.
The more the increase in users, the more the demand for Bitcoin. In facts, the continue demand for Bitcoin bring about scarcity while big holders(whales)will always try to control the market through speculation. when the start market going down, then comes in Fear, also when Bitcoin start pumping there may be Fear Of Missing Out.(FOMO )
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Z-tight on August 24, 2024, 11:04:06 PM
when the start market going down, then comes in Fear, also when Bitcoin start pumping there may be Fear Of Missing Out.(FOMO )
Weak hands are always in that cycle, they rush to sell once there is a dump in the price of BTC, and when the market is green and BTC is rising, they rush to buy for the fear of missing out. I always tell people i know not to be like weak hands, believe in BTC, it has use cases and it is not going to fail, buy and hold for the long term.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bayu7adi on August 25, 2024, 03:05:52 AM
Has anyone ever thought that the price spikes that have occurred in Bitcoin several times are also part of the whales' manipulation agenda? This is indeed just like an instinct, but if you look at the movement of the media in leading the market, it seems real, that whales do control the market in their own way which I am even sure is beyond the capabilities of ordinary people.

They shape supply and demand according to their will, so that price control can occur.. connections with important institutions are also a key for them... the point is there are still things we don't know behind Bitcoin's volatility.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 25, 2024, 08:48:53 AM
when the start market going down, then comes in Fear, also when Bitcoin start pumping there may be Fear Of Missing Out.(FOMO )
Weak hands are always in that cycle, they rush to sell once there is a dump in the price of BTC, and when the market is green and BTC is rising, they rush to buy for the fear of missing out. I always tell people i know not to be like weak hands, believe in BTC, it has use cases and it is not going to fail, buy and hold for the long term.
I really don't understand why someone will sell his or her Bitcoin when there's a dip in Bitcoin, i think that person is not normal because selling your Bitcoin during the dip is a big lost for you and selling it when is up is a gain, i know some people do sell there Bitcoin during the dip especially the newbies and is because they don't understand how Bitcoin works and they don't know the history of Bitcoin and it's growth and that is why they are doing such mistakes, Bitcoin is one of the best investment right now in the world and the best crypto coin and also the first crypto coin to be created, Bitcoin has made a lot of people rich and has changed the economy of the world, people far and near now do business very easy because it has made money transactions very fast and reduced the transaction fees.
Some people really don't understand all this and they don't know that a dip in Bitcoin is an opportunity to accumulate more Bitcoin and that dip has been part of Bitcoins growth and it's never stopped it from growing, when ever there's a dip you don't have to panic and then sell of your Bitcoin because it is certain that it will rise again this is not a new thing and that is why i advise newbies to always go through the history of Bitcoin before talking about investing some people as soon as they hear about someone that has made huge profit in Bitcoin they become interested without even asking how those this work, is good to ask questions before starting anything.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Z-tight on August 25, 2024, 10:31:27 AM
people far and near now do business very easy because it has made money transactions very fast and reduced the transaction fees.
BTC is great for cross-border payments and tx's, many online freelancers now accept BTC as payments, it makes it easy to transfer money to someone at the other end of the world. However, it may not be the best for micropayments, i.e. for a cup of coffee, especially when tx fees are high due to a congestion in the network, and that is understandable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: bayu7adi on August 27, 2024, 07:49:49 AM
people far and near now do business very easy because it has made money transactions very fast and reduced the transaction fees.
BTC is great for cross-border payments and tx's, many online freelancers now accept BTC as payments, it makes it easy to transfer money to someone at the other end of the world. However, it may not be the best for micropayments, i.e. for a cup of coffee, especially when tx fees are high due to a congestion in the network, and that is understandable.
But now if the payment option using BTC is enabled, I think this is the right time, because the transaction fee in the mempool is currently very low ... at 3 sat / vB, that means buying a cup of coffee for $ 2 can be done smoothly and the transaction time is also short ... a segwit type wallet is highly recommended at this time.

If the fee increases again, of course cash is preferred by consumers ... because there is no fee except for government taxes. What is a little awkward is its volatility, if buyers agree with the volatile nature of bitcoin prices, it certainly makes the transactions that will occur easier.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: ABCbits on August 27, 2024, 11:09:55 AM
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But now if the payment option using BTC is enabled, I think this is the right time, because the transaction fee in the mempool is currently very low ... at 3 sat / vB, that means buying a cup of coffee for $ 2 can be done smoothly and the transaction time is also short ... a segwit type wallet is highly recommended at this time.

IMO it's still not worth. SegWit (P2WPKH) TX with 1 input 2 output have size 140.5 vB[1]. With 3 sat/vB, that means you pay 421.5 vB or about $0.26 (where 1 BTC = $62874).

If the fee increases again, of course cash is preferred by consumers ... because there is no fee except for government taxes. What is a little awkward is its volatility, if buyers agree with the volatile nature of bitcoin prices, it certainly makes the transactions that will occur easier.

I agree. Although if you buy that coffee cup regularly, you could benefit from LN assuming the seller accept LN.

[1] https://bitcoinops.org/en/tools/calc-size/ (https://bitcoinops.org/en/tools/calc-size/)
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 27, 2024, 06:48:53 PM
people far and near now do business very easy because it has made money transactions very fast and reduced the transaction fees.
BTC is great for cross-border payments and tx's, many online freelancers now accept BTC as payments, it makes it easy to transfer money to someone at the other end of the world. However, it may not be the best for micropayments, i.e. for a cup of coffee, especially when tx fees are high due to a congestion in the network, and that is understandable.
But now if the payment option using BTC is enabled, I think this is the right time, because the transaction fee in the mempool is currently very low ... at 3 sat / vB, that means buying a cup of coffee for $ 2 can be done smoothly and the transaction time is also short ... a segwit type wallet is highly recommended at this time.
That's a great point! Due to low price charges in the Bitcoin mempool, it is currently possible to use BTC for microtransactions and other small purchases. One of the main and primary concerns since the inception of the bitcoin is the opportunity to make a speedy and cheap transaction such as making purchases as small as a cup of coffee as you rightly stated. Utilising a Segwit wallet improves the process and safety of doing business due to the additional advantages such as improved security that comes with it. It is encouraging to note that BTC is being applied practically and as such, increases its capability for widespread adoption.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Sim_card on August 27, 2024, 07:52:31 PM
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Anyway, kidding aside It is important to know that it is a volatile asset that would really help people in different ways. I just hope that everyone could take advantage of its volatility.
Indeed, the volatility of Bitcoin is exactly what makes it very profitable, and that's why only those who knows how to use it to their advantage profits from the market, but those who do not know how to navigate the bitcoin market and use the volatility to their advantage always end in loss.
Yes, actually as long as we can take advantage of and optimize volatility, it's actually not that bad. in fact, tarders sometimes like it too. As long as you don't easily panic-attack, and you can control your emotions, this shouldn't bother you too much. The use of volatility by traders is nothing new.
The only way someone can avoid the panic attacks that comes with volatility and temporary market fluctuations is by considering Bitcoin for its long-term trajectory and potentials, in other words, being a HODLer.
Because when you HODL for the long-term, you feel less pressured about short-term fluctuations, whether the market is in dip or bearish, as long as you're not after short-term gain but HODLing and aiming for long-term gain, you'll feel less tensed.
People who mostly feel the panic attacks are short-term traders who are only in the market for the short-term profits.
Making up your mind to invest in bitcoin for a long term without thinking of selling when there is little profit kills the high risk in the volatile nature of bitcoin. But if you are a short-term holder or use do not understand the market and have the knowledge of bitcoin that is when you will panic and sell thinking that you are running at loss. You are not yet at loss no matter how dip the price of bitcoin goes until you sell.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 27, 2024, 11:44:14 PM
Making up your mind to invest in bitcoin for a long term without thinking of selling when there is little profit kills the high risk in the volatile nature of bitcoin. But if you are a short-term holder or use do not understand the market and have the knowledge of bitcoin that is when you will panic and sell thinking that you are running at loss. You are not yet at loss no matter how dip the price of bitcoin goes until you sell.
The only people who actually reaps the true benefits of bitcoin are those who consider Bitcoin for its long-term potentials, that is why the Buy and HODL strategy is the most appropriate approach to use when choosing to invest in Bitcoin, it's true that the risks may not completely be 3liminated even with the buy and hodl strategy but this strategy just as you've rightly said has the ability to mitigate losses as well as to save an investor from the panic and impact of the temporary fluctuations of the market which usually causes most inexperienced investors to panic and take some impulsive decisions.
So rather than to consider bitcoin for its short term benefits by going into short term trading, which is can easily incur some losses, it'll be more appropriate to hodl for the longterm.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: sampoerna on August 28, 2024, 11:20:16 PM
The only people who actually reaps the true benefits of bitcoin are those who consider Bitcoin for its long-term potentials, that is why the Buy and HODL strategy is the most appropriate approach to use when choosing to invest in Bitcoin,
exactly true. Bitcoin holders really understand the potential of Bitcoin and believe that Bitcoin is indeed special, it is indeed the current and the future. Not only to invest in money, but also in technology.

I really salute the holders who have been holding for years even though they have gone through a bullish period, they still hold on to hold. Or for people who hold for 5 years of cycles, meaning by taking advantage of the bearish and bullish cycles, this is also the point because they believe that there will be a time when BTC will rise again, passing and reaching a new ATH. So that over time, BTC will be much more valuable.

And the hope is 1, BTC is used as a means of payment for various countries, that is also one of the goals, even the main goal.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on August 28, 2024, 11:33:40 PM
Bitcoin volatility in determining for the market price is what we should as very important as something needed with an urgent demand, because this is what will determine on whether we make profits or loss, this is more of being able to understand the way the network operates, the market price and the nature of how volatile bitcoin is, when it is highly volatile like we do have, then we know that something is about to take place and we have to get prepared for it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Votality
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 28, 2024, 11:38:08 PM
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Indeed, Bitcoin is very special and have very unique qualities that beats every other crypto currencies,  not just because it's the first ever crypto currency to be introduced into the crypto market, but also, the technology behind it is just so outstanding that it has managed to capture the interest of millions of investors who are confident enough to hodl on to it for a long time,  regardless of the temporary fluctuations and trends of the crypto market, even when the market takes a negative trend and declines, they're still very confident that Bitcoin has the potential to recover from any DIP and break through the current ATH and establishing new ATHs, this isn't a feature that any other token or project has, and that's what makes Bitcoin really unique and special.