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Further Discussions => Reputation, Scams & Phishing => Topic started by: dkbit98 on May 03, 2024, 06:18:03 PM
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Tumbler mixer website is not working both on clearnet and onion link.
I am trying to find more information what is happening with them, and this is what we know so far.
I would appreciate if you could add any missing information.
1. No communication with campaign manager for several months!
I know but the last time the team replied my message was a few months ago LOL
2. ANN topic in AltcoinsTalks forum was never created.
3. Issues with customer affiliate account, and we know time when outage happened
The reason why I said the timing was suspicious is not because of law enforcement but because I had wrote to them a few hours before the outage (that started yesterday) asking them to activate my affiliate account so that I could withdraw a large payout.
Tumbler website:
https://tumbler.io
http://tumbler222jbg3jjkr7zezg4xp6q3fmbqpjlk5cy4kqxvh5xfmxgosyd.onion/#ref=C23AKP6L-48QN3A
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I don't know what could be happening, but I tried to visit the Tumbler Mixer onion website and I get the following error:
Details: 0xF0 — The requested onion service descriptor can't be found on the hashring and therefore the service is not reachable by the client.
The website hosted on Clearnet does not load either, but it doesn't provide details or a specific error number.
I'm not trying to create panic or alarm anyone, but is it possible that they have shut down the service (even temporarily) for some reason?.
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Tumbler mixer website is not working both on clearnet and onion link.
It looks like their server is down for some reason, and the lack of communication between the Tumbler team and the manager is really alarming. This is clearly not a domain seizure as it was in the case of Chipmixer and Sinbad, i.e. Tumbler themselves shut down the server on which their site was located. Let's wait to see if they will react when the escrow address runs out of funds.
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I'm not trying to create panic or alarm anyone, but is it possible that they have shut down the service (even temporarily) for some reason?.
That can be a big possibility and since the people of Tumbler is not communicating or issuing any official statement then we can only speculate on this development. Let's hope that there is nothing so consequential with what is happening on this platform and that they can come back doing business for the cryptocurrency industry. We know that the very nature of its business can be attracting not-so-pleasant inquiry from the government or even attacks coming from hackers. Anyway, let's wait for any official statement from Tumbler and let's hope it can happen ASAP!
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I am unable to access the website as well. I don't think anyone has direct contact with them except for the campaign manager. In this case, the manager is Royse. But as we can see, he does not have contact with them for several months. I don't know what we should assume at this moment. But let's wait for a few hours or a couple of days to see if their website comes back online or not. If there are no scam accusations, it is safe to assume that they did not scam anyone. But, let's not make any conclusion at this moment.
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But, let's not make any conclusion at this moment.
You are right we should not make the jump to conclusions right now, and as the website is down so no one can use their services anymore which means no need to alarm people to avoid using it as they will know it eventually. But still, we should give a heads-up to other mixer users in our circle so they would save themselves from any loss (in case). Not accusing anyone here but it's good to avoid it at the moment until further notice.
Besides I think their comparing is running and I think they are refilling the campaign funds already, as there are around 0,07+ BTC in escrow for the campaign (CMIIW). Well. let's hope for good guys.
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I don't know what could be happening, but I tried to visit the Tumbler Mixer onion website and I get the following error:
Details: 0xF0 — The requested onion service descriptor can't be found on the hashring and therefore the service is not reachable by the client.
The website hosted on Clearnet does not load either, but it doesn't provide details or a specific error number.
I'm not trying to create panic or alarm anyone, but is it possible that they have shut down the service (even temporarily) for some reason?.
Downtimes are normal, but for this long? We get it, sometimes people shut down their servers for maintenance, but they should at least give us some kind of update regarding this. Tumbler is totally ghosting us, even the campaign manager who is working for their promotion, doesn't know anything. Some reasons to panic.
I tried to access Tumbler when dkbit98 raised this concern. It's still inaccessible from my side. Both sites are showing "ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED".
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So far there have been no problems with this mixer, we have not seen any scam accusations or anything similar, at least not in the current limited circumstances. They were quite professional at Btt, so I would still have a dose of reserve for some time.
It is certainly a bad thing if another service like this leaves the crypto ecosystem.
Tumbler is behind ddos-guard.net, it's possible that it's just a matter of protection, but the server where it was pointed until now is unavailable
Pinging 186.2.163.50 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 186.2.163.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Dates 2,258 days old
Created on 2018-02-27
Expires on 2026-02-27
Updated on 2023-09-04
Name Servers NS1.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
NS2.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
NS3.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
NS4.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
NS5.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
NS6.DDOS-GUARD.NET (has 5,228 domains)
IP Address 186.2.163.50 is hosted on a dedicated serverhttps://whois.domaintools.com/tumbler.io
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Besides I think their comparing is running and I think they are refilling the campaign funds already, as there are around 0,07+ BTC in escrow for the campaign (CMIIW). Well. let's hope for good guys.
Like I said earlier in the campaign thread: What is the point of continuing to advertise for something that isn't even accessible?
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Maybe the operators have been arrested or something and are unable to get in contact with Royse? Maybe arrested for something other than mixer being seized, maybe it's nothing at all. You'll all just have to wait for an announcement from them or the manager.
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A similar thing happens with the Unijoin mixer. The site is unavailable, as are other channels of communication. The manager just closed the campaign and removed the links to their services because he has no contact with the team.
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A similar thing happens with the Unijoin mixer. The site is unavailable, as are other channels of communication. The manager just closed the campaign and removed the links to their services because he has no contact with the team.
Everything is removed, the sites, the bot, the channel, the twitter account, the spreadsheet of Unijoin campaign, everything. There is no trace of Unijoin anywhere. Things escalated fast after Sinbad. I'm not sure but do you think the recent events are all connected and might have caused this downfall? For example, wasabi wallet, samurai wallet, Tumbler and now Unijoin? One by one, every service is falling apart! :'(
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Replying on this thread:
What is the approximate value of the amount you plan to withdraw from the affiliate account? They have about $4,000 in escrow, so I do not think they will scam you.
I have over 0.033BTC trapped in there or almost $2,000 at today's prices.
The domain doesn't even resolve anymore so I'm going to consider the money gone, it wouldn't be the first time I've lost that amount anyway.
is it trapped on the website? I am confused as to where your coin is stuck. I am still being paid for signature. But I do not want to advertise a site that has frozen funds.
Yes, the withdraw button was disabled. Until they enable that (provided that they even bring up their server) the coins are still in their wallet.
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Maybe the operators have been arrested or something and are unable to get in contact with Royse? Maybe arrested for something other than mixer being seized, maybe it's nothing at all. You'll all just have to wait for an announcement from them or the manager.
This could be true even as weird as it might sound. This happens when only one person is the contact personnel between the campaign manager and the project owners. If the person is sick, arrested or even dead, we might not know. Assuming the site is accessible, we wouldn't have noticed the absence of communication untill the escrow fund runs empty. Meanwhile, I'll wait for r7's announcement.
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Like I said earlier in the campaign thread: What is the point of continuing to advertise for something that isn't even accessible?
I have not used tumbler.io after I reviewed when it first started to advertise itself on Bitcointalk. It was a good mixer and I like the modern way it started with good user interface and service. We made some complaints but which were corrected and fixed very fast. But after that time, I have not used it. Do you mean the time they start campaign on this forum Altcoinstalks, the site is no more working?
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Like I said earlier in the campaign thread: What is the point of continuing to advertise for something that isn't even accessible?
I have not used tumbler.io after I reviewed when it first started to advertise itself on Bitcointalk. It was a good mixer and I like the modern way it started with good user interface and service. We made some complaints but which were corrected and fixed very fast. But after that time, I have not used it. Do you mean the time they start campaign on this forum Altcoinstalks, the site is no more working?
No. I meant since last Thursday night, UTC time, it was not working. Not that the site was inaccessible all this time. Although I must admit I do not know when Tumbler.io decided to go radio silent in their communications, other than that it must have been since at least mid-March (me opening a ticket to ask them to open my affiliate account but they didn't answer at all).
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Like I said earlier in the campaign thread: What is the point of continuing to advertise for something that isn't even accessible?
I guess there might be some problem with their service. But we are still to hear from the campaign manager @royce777 if he had any contact with them. It would be better to know what happened. For now, I guess the campaign can still go on a bit untill it's confirmed that there's no contact from the team or their website.
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Like I said earlier in the campaign thread: What is the point of continuing to advertise for something that isn't even accessible?
I have not used tumbler.io after I reviewed when it first started to advertise itself on Bitcointalk. It was a good mixer and I like the modern way it started with good user interface and service. We made some complaints but which were corrected and fixed very fast. But after that time, I have not used it. Do you mean the time they start campaign on this forum Altcoinstalks, the site is no more working?
I have used tumbler after the campaign started here to mix some coins . It worked perfectly
I can't remember the exact date, but I was already in the campaign.
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That can be a big possibility and since the people of Tumbler is not communicating or issuing any official statement then we can only speculate on this development. Let's hope that there is nothing so consequential with what is happening on this platform and that they can come back doing business for the cryptocurrency industry. We know that the very nature of its business can be attracting not-so-pleasant inquiry from the government or even attacks coming from hackers. Anyway, let's wait for any official statement from Tumbler and let's hope it can happen ASAP!
That's why I asked if it could be that they had stopped providing service, even temporarily, due to attacks for example. What is not normal, in addition to what is happening and the reasons that we still do not know, is that there is no communication, like what happened to @AB de Royse777. It is possible that everything is by their own decision, but I don't know if it could be for reasons beyond the control of the owners or because of some request they received from some governmental power. Looking at the cases of recent weeks, it would be something that unfortunately does not seem strange to me.
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Maybe the operators have been arrested or something and are unable to get in contact with Royse? Maybe arrested for something other than mixer being seized, maybe it's nothing at all. You'll all just have to wait for an announcement from them or the manager.
Trust me on this, if owners of this services was arrested it would already be everywhere in news and they would stick big warning message on their website.
That doesn't mean agencies didn't try to track, catch, arrest them and shut down their servers many times.
But If website is not working for days than it's not nothing :P
A similar thing happens with the Unijoin mixer. The site is unavailable, as are other channels of communication. The manager just closed the campaign and removed the links to their services because he has no contact with the team.
Yes I saw it, and this two mixers have nothing in common, they even had different managers for campaign in forums.
I hope nobody lost coins when this happened.
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Trust me on this, if owners of this services was arrested it would already be everywhere in news and they would stick big warning message on their website.
That doesn't mean agencies didn't try to track, catch, arrest them and shut down their servers many times.
But If website is not working for days than it's not nothing :P
I got the impression that the owners of both mixers (Tumbler and Unijoin) were not anonymous enough and this going offline is just to avoid a scenario like ChipMixer or Samurai.
For example, the CM owner paid for hosting with PayPal a couple of times, and then his anonymity disappeared.
I wouldn't be surprised if they appear but under a completely different name and brand.
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I got the impression that the owners of both mixers (Tumbler and Unijoin) were not anonymous enough and this going offline is just to avoid a scenario like ChipMixer or Samurai.
For example, the CM owner paid for hosting with PayPal a couple of times, and then his anonymity disappeared.
I wouldn't be surprised if they appear but under a completely different name and brand.
To leave so suddenly and then relaunch under a different brand would leave a sour taste. It at least would've been better if they posted a shutdown notice like LocalMonero did yesterday, so that people have time to get out.
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For example, the CM owner paid for hosting with PayPal a couple of times, and then his anonymity disappeared.
I don't think that was the real owner of CM, but some guy who paid for that service with his paypal account.
If I remember correctly real CM owner was never arrested and story ended after they seized website and everything from CM servers.
To leave so suddenly and then relaunch under a different brand would leave a sour taste.
They won't do that for sure, it would be a waste of time and money to build everything from ground up.
Everyone should watch out for all new exchanges and mixers coming in future, scammers will now try to use this situation to trick everyone.
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It at least would've been better if they posted a shutdown notice like LocalMonero did yesterday, so that people have time to get out.
When did that happen? :'( Wow! One by one, every service related to privacy and anonymity is either taken down or forced to shut down! What is happening to this world. I used their service a couple of times, and it's really sad that they are closing.