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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Crypto currency Mining => Topic started by: philipma1957 on May 07, 2024, 02:12:40 AM
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I think gpu mining will get good again. So I picked 20 cent power cost will work for gpu miners.
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I think gpu mining will get good again. So I picked 20 cent power cost will work for gpu miners.
I don't have much experience with GPU mining, and I'm not involved in the field either. However, recently my friends have restarted their ETC & ETHW farms after the halving and they reported that they are still making a decent profit thanks to the price increase of these tokens. I think we will also see a revival of the GPU crypto mining market soon. What I'm worried about is not the electricity price, but the price of GPUs as the AI trend is using up most of the GPUs on the market.
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I think gpu mining will get good again. So I picked 20 cent power cost will work for gpu miners.
I don't have much experience with GPU mining, and I'm not involved in the field either. However, recently my friends have restarted their ETC & ETHW farms after the halving and they reported that they are still making a decent profit thanks to the price increase of these tokens. I think we will also see a revival of the GPU crypto mining market soon. What I'm worried about is not the electricity price, but the price of GPUs as the AI trend is using up most of the GPUs on the market.
yeah I have been selling off my
nvidia a5000
nvidia a4500
nvidia a4000
cards. since they are all good for ai I got a lot for them .
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Probably yes, but you're betting whether coin you mine could retain it's price or popularity. Looking at https://whattomine.com/ (https://whattomine.com/), only few of profitable coins have fairly high trading volume.
What I'm worried about is not the electricity price, but the price of GPUs as the AI trend is using up most of the GPUs on the market.
CMIIW, but doesn't AI trend only use enterprise GPU? That means miner could go after non-enterprise GPU.
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Probably yes, but you're betting whether coin you mine could retain it's price or popularity. Looking at https://whattomine.com/ (https://whattomine.com/), only few of profitable coins have fairly high trading volume.
What I'm worried about is not the electricity price, but the price of GPUs as the AI trend is using up most of the GPUs on the market.
CMIIW, but doesn't AI trend only use enterprise GPU? That means miner could go after non-enterprise GPU.
raven works with cheap power. but when i mine raven i do it on nicehash and convert to btc.
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CMIIW, but doesn't AI trend only use enterprise GPU? That means miner could go after non-enterprise GPU.
Large AI companies' data centers use Nvidia enterprise GPUs that cost tens of thousands of $, such as the H100 Tensor Core which costs $40K. Of course, these GPUs are not in the sights of crypto miners, or at least I have never known anyone to use enterprise GPUs for their mining farms.
However, the demand for AI comes not only from large companies, but also from ordinary users. For example, the Nvidia GeForce RTX is popular for computers focused on AI features for users, which can deplete the supply of GPUs on the market and drive up GPU prices and increase miners costs.
- Factors that affect the price of GPUs (https://wiki.aiimpacts.org/ai_timelines/hardware_and_ai_timelines/factors_that_affect_gpu_price)
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CMIIW, but doesn't AI trend only use enterprise GPU? That means miner could go after non-enterprise GPU.
Large AI companies' data centers use Nvidia enterprise GPUs that cost tens of thousands of $, such as the H100 Tensor Core which costs $40K. Of course, these GPUs are not in the sights of crypto miners, or at least I have never known anyone to use enterprise GPUs for their mining farms.
However, the demand for AI comes not only from large companies, but also from ordinary users. For example, the Nvidia GeForce RTX is popular for computers focused on AI features for users, which can deplete the supply of GPUs on the market and drive up GPU prices and increase miners costs.
- Factors that affect the price of GPUs (https://wiki.aiimpacts.org/ai_timelines/hardware_and_ai_timelines/factors_that_affect_gpu_price)
I have been able sell off most of my nvidia rtx a4000 gpus on ebay. they are in much more demand than nvidia rtx 3070
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CMIIW, but doesn't AI trend only use enterprise GPU? That means miner could go after non-enterprise GPU.
Large AI companies' data centers use Nvidia enterprise GPUs that cost tens of thousands of $, such as the H100 Tensor Core which costs $40K. Of course, these GPUs are not in the sights of crypto miners, or at least I have never known anyone to use enterprise GPUs for their mining farms.
However, the demand for AI comes not only from large companies, but also from ordinary users. For example, the Nvidia GeForce RTX is popular for computers focused on AI features for users, which can deplete the supply of GPUs on the market and drive up GPU prices and increase miners costs.
- Factors that affect the price of GPUs (https://wiki.aiimpacts.org/ai_timelines/hardware_and_ai_timelines/factors_that_affect_gpu_price)
That's good to know, although i wonder how many regular people buy customer GPU just to use AI feature. I recall news which state new Intel CPU optimized for AI task, which means those people doesn't need to buy dedicated GPU.
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That's good to know, although i wonder how many regular people buy customer GPU just to use AI feature. I recall news which state new Intel CPU optimized for AI task, which means those people doesn't need to buy dedicated GPU.
Yeah, in general, users will use AI features from a cloud service instead of running AI models on their personal devices. But we still have AI-Ready Laptops for users so that they can work conveniently and seamlessly when needed [1]. If this trend explodes, we may see an increase in demand for GPUs and push up GPU prices.
Back to the topic, GPU-based crypto mining companies can provide their GPUs for AI training purposes to optimize their income [2]. As the demand for AI training increases, the revenue from GPU power supply services may be even more profitable than crypto mining. I think this is new strategy for GPU mining farm to get more profits from AI trend!
[1] 10+ Best AI Laptops to Use in 2024 (https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2024/04/best-laptops-that-can-handle-ai-and-analytics-workloads/)
[2] Mining 2.0 Trends As Defunct Crypto Mining Rigs Tap Into the AI Boom (https://www.binance.com/en-JP/square/post/726096)
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Well the rtx a4000 and the rtx a5000 are selling well on ebay.
But I have found a coin Xelis to mine it seems kind of okay. The key is will it crash and burn or expand.
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Large AI companies' data centers use Nvidia enterprise GPUs that cost tens of thousands of $, such as the H100 Tensor Core which costs $40K. Of course, these GPUs are not in the sights of crypto miners, or at least I have never known anyone to use enterprise GPUs for their mining farms.
H100 sucks for mining at those prices, unless you get a coin with an algo that takes advantage of their design they are really bad at ROI over a normal GPU, they simply don't outperform 4xxx series by that much.
That's good to know, although i wonder how many regular people buy customer GPU just to use AI feature. I recall news which state new Intel CPU optimized for AI task, which means those people doesn't need to buy dedicated GPU.
If you're using it for image processing (stable/comfy) 3080 is still good for it, heck even my old 3060 with its advantage of 12gb of RAM would be enough for home personal projects (and a ton of hentai from civitai). For anything larger consumer as training anything else from scratch GPUs are simply no match for the task, you're better of just buying the power needed to compute from the thousands of offers you have pop-ing right and left, if in mining the H100 is barely surpassing the latest 4xxx series, when it comes to AI it would blow a whole 10x rig by a mile.
As for intel, meh, even their dedicated cards (arcs) really underperform as for their design chips (gaudi) those are in the car prices range >:(