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Title: Why is this common here.
Post by: Rruchi man on May 10, 2024, 11:40:21 PM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Igebotz on May 11, 2024, 12:03:55 AM
That's not common practice and I'm yet to see any user with such a "line" here. Do you have their profile? Could be accounts controlled by one individual or a potential big farm.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Findingnemo on May 11, 2024, 01:06:20 AM
Probable reasons,

Usage of AI.
They just made it as habit by following someone does that way.
Or it could be just a coincidence.

Anyway this has anything to do with the forum's discussion?
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 11, 2024, 08:36:55 AM
Likely a spammer just trying to make a post look like they are interested in starting a conversation. Do they make the 1st post then never post again in the topic or are they actively participating in the conversation?
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: bitmover on May 11, 2024, 03:48:33 PM

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.

This forum lacks interaction compared to bitcointalk,  where we can see lots of people creating new accounts to ask a question for example.

I think this a way to kindly ask members to engage in the discussion
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on May 11, 2024, 03:52:46 PM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.
I am not spending time on the forum regularly and read a little posts. Where is the problem is a user or a group of user use the statement? There are specific style for each members. Sometime an investigation can help to find if these are alts or not.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Zed0X on May 11, 2024, 03:56:27 PM
The OP is probably talking about the regular topic creator in the News section. To OP, it's not common but I am guessing that member is doing it out of habit. The other few members who does the same are probably just following that posting style.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: SamReomo on May 11, 2024, 04:26:45 PM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement
I think that trend was started by one users and others just followed it. I know in start there was only one member who was actually from this forum not a teleported user who used that phrase at the end of his threads, but the phrase got some good attention and that's why others also picked it. That's what I understand, I know I can be wrong, so let's hear from others.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on May 11, 2024, 04:45:48 PM
@Rruchi man, as far as I can remember, there is only one user who does that and ends every "post" with that phrase. The fact that the user ends each post with that phrase is supposed to encourage other users to write posts, but the OP has never responded to any of those users, so the interaction between the OP and the users does not exist. It's something I talked about on occasion (some time ago) with the administrator, but we didn't come to any conclusion. I will talk to him again.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Lucius on May 12, 2024, 04:33:23 PM
The OP is probably talking about the regular topic creator in the News section. To OP, it's not common but I am guessing that member is doing it out of habit. The other few members who does the same are probably just following that posting style.

I also noticed it with at least two users, but I don't think it's any alt accounts, but that one teleported user from BTT simply adopted the style of a member who in this way wants to encourage others to leave a comment in his topic.



@Rruchi man, as far as I can remember, there is only one user who does that and ends every "post" with that phrase. The fact that the user ends each post with that phrase is supposed to encourage other users to write posts, but the OP has never responded to any of those users, so the interaction between the OP and the users does not exist. It's something I talked about on occasion (some time ago) with the administrator, but we didn't come to any conclusion. I will talk to him again.

I've noticed it since I came to the forum, but since that member has been "communicating" in that way for a long time, I thought it was something the forum allows. In addition, the user in question always puts the same source, so I thought that maybe he represents that website and that he has a verified status, which is one of the guidelines that the admin wrote in Read before Posting in News section (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=5056.0)
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on May 13, 2024, 06:37:49 PM
I've noticed it since I came to the forum, but since that member has been "communicating" in that way for a long time, I thought it was something the forum allows. In addition, the user in question always puts the same source, so I thought that maybe he represents that website and that he has a verified status, which is one of the guidelines that the admin wrote in Read before Posting in News section (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=5056.0)

Since I have been on this forum I have not read anywhere that this user represents the website that he always uses as a news source, although the truth is that I had never thought about it, but I doubt it. I suppose what the user is looking for is interaction with users to create debate, but I think he should also have more participation in his threads. The admin may need to rethink what he wrote in that article about that subforum's policy and update it.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: bayu7adi on May 14, 2024, 11:12:07 AM
I have created topics on this forum and also the btt forum, usually for discussions that I feel less confident will bring interesting discussions, it crossed my mind to embed that word. Yes, maybe in a slightly different way with the aim of allowing other people to reply to each other on the topic created to produce lots of answers from various views. Until now, I have never felt that this closing word is widely used in this forum (or maybe there are certain subforums where many users use this word but I don't read it).

And I feel disturbed by embedding these words in the topic being created. I consider it a good effort to get useful replies even if the points raised by the person providing the answer are only a few.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Lucius on May 14, 2024, 06:03:57 PM
I've noticed it since I came to the forum, but since that member has been "communicating" in that way for a long time, I thought it was something the forum allows. In addition, the user in question always puts the same source, so I thought that maybe he represents that website and that he has a verified status, which is one of the guidelines that the admin wrote in Read before Posting in News section (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=5056.0)

Since I have been on this forum I have not read anywhere that this user represents the website that he always uses as a news source, although the truth is that I had never thought about it, but I doubt it. I suppose what the user is looking for is interaction with users to create debate, but I think he should also have more participation in his threads. The admin may need to rethink what he wrote in that article about that subforum's policy and update it.

On the BTT forum we had members who actually worked for certain news sites and were paid for every link they posted, which of course was not allowed and in the end some of them were banned for spam. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I see only two possible options why someone uses one source in all posts - he's paid to promote that news source, or it's an account that controls that source.

I have the opinion that apart from the interaction with other users, which is obviously not there, a rule of one topic every 24 hours per user should be introduced in any press board.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: yhiaali3 on May 14, 2024, 09:52:09 PM
I noticed this from the beginning, but I did not care. I think this is just a habit of posting and does not pose any concern to the forum. The member who posts in the  section "news related to Crypto" always ends his posts with this phrase. I think it is a matter of habit and to motivate members to participate in the discussion.

Most likely others followed him in this habit, but personally I do not expect it to pose any problem as long as the topic is good and worthy of discussion and there is no spam or violation of the forum rules.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: robelneo on May 15, 2024, 02:34:23 PM
I noticed this from the beginning, but I did not care. I think this is just a habit of posting and does not pose any concern to the forum. The member who posts in the  section "news related to Crypto" always ends his posts with this phrase. I think it is a matter of habit and to motivate members to participate in the discussion.
I have become very familiar with his style because I often comment on many of his threads. It's more like an invitation to participate in his discussion, and I appreciate that.

I agree with you that it's more like a habit. He is not the only one doing that, and I have no issues with people doing that as long as the discussion is good and not meant to be spam-like discussion.

Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on May 15, 2024, 07:06:32 PM
I have created topics on this forum and also the btt forum, usually for discussions that I feel less confident will bring interesting discussions, it crossed my mind to embed that word. Yes, maybe in a slightly different way with the aim of allowing other people to reply to each other on the topic created to produce lots of answers from various views. Until now, I have never felt that this closing word is widely used in this forum (or maybe there are certain subforums where many users use this word but I don't read it).

And I feel disturbed by embedding these words in the topic being created. I consider it a good effort to get useful replies even if the points raised by the person providing the answer are only a few.

Whether or not a topic has more acceptance and more interaction from users is normal, since although we always talk about cryptocurrencies, some users may be more interested in some things than others, that's not a problem. The "problem" is creating a thread to abandon it, knowing that the OP is not going to respond or give their own point of view. Before, some users could say that they could not control all the threads they had created, but now, with the notification bot that is no longer an excuse.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Gurujebs on May 15, 2024, 07:38:24 PM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.

I'm not sure where I saw this quote but I have seen it from two member ranks and after I check most of their threads, they are spammers who just post random generic thread to either increase post counts and activity so the can rank faster, I don't know there true motive after that.

If there are other genuine posters that use it, I don't think its really bad since most of replies and discussion are just opinions, advice and suggestions to what OP has posted or reply to another person.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 16, 2024, 02:00:56 PM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.
or maybe they are from same country in which that word is more actively added to their posts or thread?
and i don't think this will ever an issue because each thread creator have their rights what to be added in their posts .
but that is right , I have not observed that in btt and even here.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on May 17, 2024, 08:54:03 PM
On the BTT forum we had members who actually worked for certain news sites and were paid for every link they posted, which of course was not allowed and in the end some of them were banned for spam. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I see only two possible options why someone uses one source in all posts - he's paid to promote that news source, or it's an account that controls that source.

I have the opinion that apart from the interaction with other users, which is obviously not there, a rule of one topic every 24 hours per user should be introduced in any press board.

I know that in BTT it is (or was) a common practice for several users, but as I said, I have never seen any post from that user where he explicitly says that he works for that website (or for any other website). Setting a daily limit could be an idea, but as I say, that user has been doing the same thing for a long time, so I think that in this case it is best to wait for the administrator to rule on this issue.

I suppose the 24 hour limitation could be useful, a suggestion in the corresponding subforum would be interesting to see if more users support the idea.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2024, 04:58:48 PM
~snip~

Unfortunately, the Press board on BTT is completely devastated by 1-2 users who spam their links there, and after years of fighting to do something about it, it seems that we all gave up because there was no reaction from the admin.

I'm not saying that the same thing will happen here, but the rules should still be a little stricter, because spamming links with c/p couple of sentences from the article can't be called a constructive way of writing posts.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on May 20, 2024, 07:24:59 PM
Unfortunately, the Press board on BTT is completely devastated by 1-2 users who spam their links there, and after years of fighting to do something about it, it seems that we all gave up because there was no reaction from the admin.

I'm not saying that the same thing will happen here, but the rules should still be a little stricter, because spamming links with c/p couple of sentences from the article can't be called a constructive way of writing posts.

I agree, but as I said in another post on this topic, it is something that I already discussed with the administrator a while ago, but I seem to remember that nothing was done to try to find a solution. As another user said, a possible 24 hour limitation could be the solution or part of the solution. But it's something we should talk to the administrator about and wait to see what his opinion is. What is clear is that the rules must be modified (as I said) to regulate the situation.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Lucius on June 12, 2024, 04:01:44 PM
@Freemind, do you have any new information about the user mentioned in this thread? If we look at his post history (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=33545) I think he is really overdoing with his thread spam - not to mention that this is also in the shilling category because he only promotes one website.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Faisal2202 on June 14, 2024, 12:31:02 AM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.
I also noticed it here, actually, I first read these statements from old member's posts and they were also legendary and very active most are mods, but they write them on other main Post like if they are OP then they wrote these statements although I did not saw so many posts which are not of OP's main post but just replies and end with this line.

It's not a bad thing to write this though as it gives a little surge in the reader's mind to say something it's like a CTA line. I also uses a version of this CTA in my own words like "I would like to hear more" or "Shed some light on it" but only where it suits best like I have to ask something from some member I also use these lines on BTT as well.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 14, 2024, 07:19:56 AM
I have just a simple and straight question to know maybe it was said here that users should end their post with "your opinion will be appreciated" because I have seen many users end their post with that statement, when they can in fact ignore the urge to put that in as it is unnecessary as users will always share their opinion.

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.

I'm not sure where I saw this quote but I have seen it from two member ranks and after I check most of their threads, they are spammers who just post random generic thread to either increase post counts and activity so the can rank faster, I don't know there true motive after that.

If there are other genuine posters that use it, I don't think its really bad since most of replies and discussion are just opinions, advice and suggestions to what OP has posted or reply to another person.
I have seen this kind in the other forum and actually until now there are still new accounts that keeps creating threads and others are postings here and there.
and know what? those accounts now are higher rankings and obviously  handled by same person and  farmed and yes they are now gaining earning from that forum.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on June 14, 2024, 10:12:44 AM
@Freemind, do you have any new information about the user mentioned in this thread? If we look at his post history (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=33545) I think he is really overdoing with his thread spam - not to mention that this is also in the shilling category because he only promotes one website.

No, I don't have new information. Anyway, I'll tell the admin to read the latest posts in this thread and ask him what he thinks, since I see that the opinions are channeled in the same direction almost all of them. When I know something new I will post it here.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Agbe on June 14, 2024, 07:10:31 PM
@Freemind, do you have any new information about the user mentioned in this thread? If we look at his post history (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=33545) I think he is really overdoing with his thread spam - not to mention that this is also in the shilling category because he only promotes one website.
That is very bad, that user didn't do well. I was thinking that it is a Baby Steps users but it is a Mythical which is more than a legendary members. Probably he is only interested to promote that site and those kind of information. But at least different sources with different information would making his writing look good. That is just the same information in different ways.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: PX-Z on June 15, 2024, 12:06:03 AM
I think he is really overdoing with his thread spam - not to mention that this is also in the shilling category because he only promotes one website.
.... Probably he is only interested to promote that site and those kind of information. But at least different sources with different information would making his writing look good. That is just the same information in different ways.
By the looks of it, the user seems like bringing crypto news = new thread to discuss than spamming or promoting (the site doesn't need any promotion anymore). News sources from bitcoin.com is okay but there are many better crypto news sites like coindesk, cointelegraph, etc. I also thinks that it's using bot to post based on its thread format but i could be wrong, coz it's not consecutive for same number of post everyday.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: Freemind on June 15, 2024, 07:43:44 AM
I know the admin talked to him about this a while ago, but nothing changed. I spoke with the administrator (a few hours ago) and he told me that he will speak to @sirty143 again. Let's try to be a little patient and see what happens. Thank you all.

That is very bad, that user didn't do well. I was thinking that it is a Baby Steps users but it is a Mythical which is more than a legendary members. Probably he is only interested to promote that site and those kind of information. But at least different sources with different information would making his writing look good. That is just the same information in different ways.

I agree with that, if the information were from different sites things would change a little, but unfortunately that is not the case.
Title: Re: Why is this common here.
Post by: KingsDen on June 19, 2024, 09:47:36 PM

Even forum members who teleported their accounts from bitcointalk and did not write like that there, do so in this forum.

This forum lacks interaction compared to bitcointalk,  where we can see lots of people creating new accounts to ask a question for example.

I think this a way to kindly ask members to engage in the discussion
Exactly what I had to say. It is possible that you will drop a topic here and in 24 hours time no one has responded to the thread. So this makes the author to be kind of persuasive in their tonation in order to attract reactions.
In order words, this could be a generic phrase from the bots. I would have appreciated if the Op referenced of the many posts he sees. Because I'm yet to see any from my side.