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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Crypto gaming (GameFi) => Topic started by: BattleAxe1 on May 15, 2024, 07:10:55 PM
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For most of the big guys I know, one stand out hobby they have is playing video games. Some say it helps them escape problems. They seek companionship and relief with the virtual engagement that gaming offers them.
Meanwhile there's excitement for crypto enthusiasts with the innovation of blockchain gaming and its play-to-earn features where users earn in-game crypto currency which are converted into fiat. For instance, Engines of Fury and other gaming projects have seen where tokens are rewarded as a bonus to users.
With popular gaming projects like Sandbox, Gods Unchained, Axie Infinity, Decentraland, I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
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~ I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
When these projects advertise/promote, their main talking point is the ability to earn some cryptocurrencies. That is why I don't expect them to attract passionate gamers who truly enjoys the game. I personally would not waste time with these P2E just for the sake of fun. Maybe some kids, who do not ha a real concept of money, will do.
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~ I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
When these projects advertise/promote, their main talking point is the ability to earn some cryptocurrencies. That is why I don't expect them to attract passionate gamers who truly enjoys the game. I personally would not waste time with these P2E just for the sake of fun. Maybe some kids, who do not ha a real concept of money, will do.
Really? Then we must be seeing things differently here. I see the ability to earn some cryptocurrency by playing games simply as the reward for being a passionate gamer. Just like in soccer for instance, the vibe incites predictions and fans & players can bet on different categories which serves as a motivation for the game. Like in Engines of Fury for instance, gamers who have earned some tokens $FURY would always want to support the game or platform development so that the tokens they accumulated can be valuable. Now CEX like Bitget and a few others have listed the token bringing more exposure to the game itself. Or what would you say about that?
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Really? Then we must be seeing things differently here. I see the ability to earn some cryptocurrency by playing games simply as the reward for being a passionate gamer. Just like in soccer for instance, the vibe incites predictions and fans & players can bet on different categories which serves as a motivation for the game. Like in Engines of Fury for instance, gamers who have earned some tokens $FURY would always want to support the game or platform development so that the tokens they accumulated can be valuable. Now CEX like Bitget and a few others have listed the token bringing more exposure to the game itself. Or what would you say about that?
The things you mentioned could become a reality during this bullrun, when GameFi projects can provide truly fun and rewarding games. It would be great if we had AAA games on the blockchain and developers didn't have to go to great lengths to use anti-cheat methods. I really look forward to playing Pokemon Go on the Immutable or Ronin blockchain in the future to own my Pikachu NFT ^^
However, for now, GameFi projects are still only attracting players based on Earn, not Play. Axie has AXS and SLP tokens, both of which have terrible tokenomics, other games are the same but still attracted players during the bullrun and then disappeared in the crypto winter. Some games are Free-to-play but they are not really attractive. They are all boring games that cannot compete with traditional games on the market.
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~ I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
When these projects advertise/promote, their main talking point is the ability to earn some cryptocurrencies. That is why I don't expect them to attract passionate gamers who truly enjoys the game. I personally would not waste time with these P2E just for the sake of fun. Maybe some kids, who do not ha a real concept of money, will do.
Really? Then we must be seeing things differently here. I see the ability to earn some cryptocurrency by playing games simply as the reward for being a passionate gamer. Just like in soccer for instance, the vibe incites predictions and fans & players can bet on different categories which serves as a motivation for the game. Like in Engines of Fury for instance, gamers who have earned some tokens $FURY would always want to support the game or platform development so that the tokens they accumulated can be valuable. Now CEX like Bitget and a few others have listed the token bringing more exposure to the game itself. Or what would you say about that?
By passionate gamers, I mean those who play not because of the rewards and I also include those who do not see the value of their time as part of that group. I see no point playing for two hours or more and earn some tokens with little value when I can do something else that would pay more.
Some might stay but most of those you mentioned that would always want to support the game would likely disappear or lay low when the market goes south.
Exchanges listing gaming tokens means nothing because they can always delist that when volume gets low. They are simply for business and would not really care about the game when it no longer helps with their interest.
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~ I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
When these projects advertise/promote, their main talking point is the ability to earn some cryptocurrencies. That is why I don't expect them to attract passionate gamers who truly enjoys the game. I personally would not waste time with these P2E just for the sake of fun. Maybe some kids, who do not ha a real concept of money, will do.
- If you're not a gamer, it's probably a waste of time when you try, but for gamers, it's precious time because it brings them great satisfaction. Because their passion is here. Especially if it also provides a source of income to them in a way that they know.
But for others, even if they don't get any money from it, as long as it's important to be happy, it's fine with them; that's because of the addiction that also exists in their personality. This is the thing that I also notice in them sometimes.
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- I still play games when I want to relax on a day when I want to just rest, or what they call a day, even though I'm not an employee. Sometimes it also helps me to somehow relieve myself. But I can't really be called a gamer at all.
Maybe before the Mir4 was new, that was also related to crypto at that time because I was grinding in these games almost daily, but when the trend fell and it was hyped, I gradually stopped, and just once I also wanted to play it.
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Generally, NFT games or any games related to cryptocurrency are not that interesting to play (for me), unless they are just to earn money. Maybe this also influences everyone's different tastes, but there was only one game that really interested me a few years ago, namely Mir4. This game also integrates NFTs and also exchanges cryptocurrency directly from farming resources in the game.
The Axie Infinity game once took the NFT world by storm, but it turned out to be just hype and the hype will definitely not last much longer. It's a different story, if maybe a developer like SUPERCELL or maybe MOONTOON created an NFT-based game, there would definitely be lots of big opportunities that could be exploited in the world of Cryptocurrency games & NFTs in the longer term.
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When P2E games appeared, they were quite successful and shocked the gaming world because they could make extraordinary profits in crypto.
But as time goes by, P2E games are also not very popular now and most of these games do not generate profits according to the capital spent.
People just go back to focusing on the usual games and many streamers are playing games for fun and some of them are also game ambassadors so they get paid directly from the vendors.
Several integrations of games with blockchain also help current games develop well, incentivizing players with predetermined missions.
P2E games are still not popular anymore, but there are still many opportunities for P2E games to develop their games to be better and become a successful P2E gaming platform.
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P2E games are still not popular anymore, but there are still many opportunities for P2E games to develop their games to be better and become a successful P2E gaming platform.
Mainly because it's to rally P2E and more like P2W2W (pay to work to earn)!
Their main problem is that you need to first buy into your participation, get some kitties or axies or land or something like that, then there is this repetitive task in which you can get paid for but only in said tokens and those tokens won't have any value unless there are more people buying in which really brings us close to a ponzi scheme in the payment structure, or if not outright Ponzi them clearly a MLM pyramid.
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Mainly because it's to rally P2E and more like P2W2W (pay to work to earn)!
Their main problem is that you need to first buy into your participation, get some kitties or axies or land or something like that, then there is this repetitive task in which you can get paid for but only in said tokens and those tokens won't have any value unless there are more people buying in which really brings us close to a ponzi scheme in the payment structure, or if not outright Ponzi them clearly a MLM pyramid.
Hahaha I hate to hear Ponzi and MLM, it's just a waste of time and will only harm others, while those above them will benefit more and there is no fair system.
About P2W2W or whatever it is, in the end it won't get a consistent income, I once bought some NFT games for $5k and at first it looked like it was making more, but when the Bears arrived and the crypto price was destroyed, everything was abandoned including the P2E project I was playing.
In the end, they didn't gain anything and a -95% loss that could not be expected to bounce back.
From there I began to learn, that those who enter early must also leave early because it is not good to continue to survive on a P2E platform that is still unclear and will only be abandoned in the end.
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~ I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
When these projects advertise/promote, their main talking point is the ability to earn some cryptocurrencies. That is why I don't expect them to attract passionate gamers who truly enjoys the game. I personally would not waste time with these P2E just for the sake of fun. Maybe some kids, who do not ha a real concept of money, will do.
- If you're not a gamer, it's probably a waste of time when you try, but for gamers, it's precious time because it brings them great satisfaction. Because their passion is here. Especially if it also provides a source of income to them in a way that they know.
But for others, even if they don't get any money from it, as long as it's important to be happy, it's fine with them; that's because of the addiction that also exists in their personality. This is the thing that I also notice in them sometimes.
I agree, that some gamers, will be more encouraged to play because of the goal and rewards they will have fun playing P2E games but not for the fun of it because there is a major difference between playing games and P2E games playing P2E games makes them more serious because of real money.
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There are different peripherals of games and so also their features differs.
So if you mean prediction games there I am fully gaming for profits but if it is one of the graphic gaming programs which offers displays features of the players of course I will be in for fun but if I must pay for an entry pay the. I would have some tastes of rewards of profits.
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I liked Fairspin. They have quite interesting games on which you can make good money, this article is well described https://kriptoakademia.com/2024/08/15/az-altcoinok-hasznalatanak-5-elonye-a-kripto-kaszinokban. Inprinciple you can steadily earn and at the same time play, but I do not know how large-scale it can be done, so far this project has not replaced my main income in the form of work.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users. they have the incentive which is also their goal in playing. if there is any, i don't know what his goal is. maybe those are just the ones that wants to waste time.
i have been in a chat group for axie infinity and there are kids there asking if they could get enrolled to be a player which the owner of the team will only give them percentage to what they could earn. they just want to play and make money out of it. so they don't have the capital to have their own axie team but they know how to play and earn.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users. they have the incentive which is also their goal in playing. if there is any, i don't know what his goal is. maybe those are just the ones that wants to waste time.
And if crypto user just want to have fun or waste time, there are many other better or more engaging games out there. I don't expect anyone actually enjoy "playing" tap-to-earn game out there.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users. they have the incentive which is also their goal in playing. if there is any, i don't know what his goal is. maybe those are just the ones that wants to waste time.
And if crypto user just want to have fun or waste time, there are many other better or more engaging games out there. I don't expect anyone actually enjoy "playing" tap-to-earn game out there.
They probably don't consider tapping their screen as a real game ;D I've seen some video of a kid do it on multiple devices and you can tell there's no passion/enjoyment in that. It's driven by the fact that there's money waiting for them after all that tapping.
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For most of the big guys I know, one stand out hobby they have is playing video games. Some say it helps them escape problems. They seek companionship and relief with the virtual engagement that gaming offers them.
Meanwhile there's excitement for crypto enthusiasts with the innovation of blockchain gaming and its play-to-earn features where users earn in-game crypto currency which are converted into fiat. For instance, Engines of Fury and other gaming projects have seen where tokens are rewarded as a bonus to users.
With popular gaming projects like Sandbox, Gods Unchained, Axie Infinity, Decentraland, I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
If the game mechanism is more inclined to pay to win, and there is crypto that can be exchanged to FIAT back and forth so that the game also has a play to earn function, usually the game statistics are not complex ... and that's not fun enough for me because it's not balanced between free players vs paid players ... for example Axie Infinity which I really don't like. Paid players only need game publishers or platform owners to be able to develop.
However, there is also a Mir4 game that is connected to the $HYDRA cryptocurrency, there it requires players to grind to become great players ... and that's where the character building process becomes something challenging because paid players always need free players to develop ... in mir4 I can play for my own fun, while in axie infinity I can't ....
So it really depends on the game being played too.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users. they have the incentive which is also their goal in playing. if there is any, i don't know what his goal is. maybe those are just the ones that wants to waste time.
And if crypto user just want to have fun or waste time, there are many other better or more engaging games out there. I don't expect anyone actually enjoy "playing" tap-to-earn game out there.
They probably don't consider tapping their screen as a real game ;D I've seen some video of a kid do it on multiple devices and you can tell there's no passion/enjoyment in that. It's driven by the fact that there's money waiting for them after all that tapping.
That's about what i expect. And such people usually would be disappointed since they would receive less token/coin than promised or price of the token/coin is far lower than they expect.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users.
My experience has been quite different as vast majorify of people that I know IRL that are into crypto are also gamers who still play. Gamers and crypto were close from the start, which makes sense since mining was important part and who else is better at it than gamers with their powerful rigs?
I personally tried some P2E games but in the end it turned out to be a total waste of time so we all went back to classic gaming with no earn mechanism and found some other ways to earn crypto.
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playing to just waste their time is rare to crypto users.
My experience has been quite different as vast majorify of people that I know IRL that are into crypto are also gamers who still play. Gamers and crypto were close from the start, which makes sense since mining was important part and who else is better at it than gamers with their powerful rigs?
I personally tried some P2E games but in the end it turned out to be a total waste of time so we all went back to classic gaming with no earn mechanism and found some other ways to earn crypto.
Usually crypto games are not that gud in terms of - gaming - ;D Thus, spending time in them just for the game - is hard. Everybody only ventures there for the money
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With popular gaming projects like Sandbox, Gods Unchained, Axie Infinity, Decentraland, I've been wondering if there are people who simply play virtual games just for the fun of it with no interest in getting rewards in crypto that could be converted to cash.
I am only active on one crypto game that being dcity on hive blockchain, it's fun game which I enjoy playing and rewards are extra, rewards definitely played part early on to get started with it though. Other than that, i play regular video games.
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Usually crypto games are not that gud in terms of - gaming - ;D Thus, spending time in them just for the game - is hard. Everybody only ventures there for the money
Yes, sometimes games with the play to earn label make gamers' expectations higher to make the game as another income... however, games without the play to earn label are more reliable in providing income to the game farmers... in some games that require resources to strengthen the character, and RMT (Real money trading) is allowed in the game, usually have more potential to generate money for the players...
I have many friends who play games every day to earn money by selling gold, items, character accessories and so on... it is really profitable because the ecosystem consists of rich people who are chasing the best title, and farmers who are from the money-making community through games by looking for resources to sell to the rich people.
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If you're not a gamer, it's probably a waste of time when you try, but for gamers, it's precious time because it brings them great satisfaction. Because their passion is here. Especially if it also provides a source of income to them in a way that they know.
But for others, even if they don't get any money from it, as long as it's important to be happy, it's fine with them; that's because of the addiction that also exists in their personality. This is the thing that I also notice in them sometimes.
Try what? If someone tries to play games, it is no problem at all. You don't need to be real gamers to try games. We can try games at any time we want. Some people play games for fun, other may play for money. However, everyone can enjoy the games, games is a prt of entertain industry.
Everyone should have their own ways to avoid addiction. I also limit my time to play games to avoid addiction. Anyway, it is not only about bad thing, we have good thing in game industry now. With crypto, we can earn money easily by playing games now. We don't forget this part as well.
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Of course there are still some, for people who just want to have fun, but if people know crypto, maybe they will choose some games that can make money, not just playing and having fun.
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Everyone should have their own ways to avoid addiction. I also limit my time to play games to avoid addiction. Anyway, it is not only about bad thing, we have good thing in game industry now. With crypto, we can earn money easily by playing games now. We don't forget this part as well.
But don't choose the wrong game... because now there are also many crypto-based games but actually it is more profitable for developers... some game concepts are pay to win so that a fair ecosystem is not created for free to play users... in my opinion it is still difficult to integrate real finance into a game with a fun basis..
Games like Axie Infinity, I'm sorry, I don't like that game... it's not a fun game, everyone is there because they like money, not the game. And I think there will be a lot of crypto games with concepts like that... present because the financial side is more interesting, not the fun side.
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^ Most crypto based games I have played, indeed do be like that — they are not fun, but people like money so they continue playing them, without money motivation, there is little reason to play.
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Of course there are still some, for people who just want to have fun, but if people know crypto, maybe they will choose some games that can make money, not just playing and having fun.
I will never take crypto games for fun when I can make money, even th so-called video games players get mad when their profile get deleted or something happened to their accounts. Their games are mostly for entertainment purposes but they don't joke with the money involved, and you expect me to play for fun when I can bank on my crypto.
If I have a way to win more with casino and crypto games, I will do it every day twice on Sundays and convert all of them to Bitcoin, that way I know I'm having fun and my Bitcoin wallet will be getting bigger.
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Of course there are still some, for people who just want to have fun, but if people know crypto, maybe they will choose some games that can make money, not just playing and having fun.
At the moment, I haven't seen any truly engaging Web3 games. The devs of crypto projects aren't professional gaming devs, they don't know how to create a fun game that's compelling enough to attract people. They only think about tokens, they want to profit from players by selling NFTs.
Flappy Bird is being revived, I think game developers could bring this game onto the blockchain and players would watch ads while playing, then they could use their points to participate in lucky draws. Devs could also earn money from mini-ads instead of several minutes of ads like in many current games. This idea could be implemented based on many other classic games that are very familiar to 8x and 9x gamers.
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Of course there are still some, for people who just want to have fun, but if people know crypto, maybe they will choose some games that can make money, not just playing and having fun.
At the moment, I haven't seen any truly engaging Web3 games. The devs of crypto projects aren't professional gaming devs, they don't know how to create a fun game that's compelling enough to attract people. They only think about tokens, they want to profit from players by selling NFTs.
Flappy Bird is being revived, I think game developers could bring this game onto the blockchain and players would watch ads while playing, then they could use their points to participate in lucky draws. Devs could also earn money from mini-ads instead of several minutes of ads like in many current games. This idea could be implemented based on many other classic games that are very familiar to 8x and 9x gamers.
I totally agree.
Every game I saw myself slapped with crypto or web3 terms was a rocky experience, or it was good purely because it copied other games (for example: Backwoods totally copied the concept from Brotato, which copied it from Vampire Survivors with their own gimmicks).
I hope this will change as time goes on.