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Title: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: TomPluz on June 06, 2024, 04:37:54 AM

(https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2024/05/20240523_Ethereum_News_3-1200x675.jpg?isSafari=false&isMobile=false)

The approval of spot Ethereum ETFs will be opening the Pandora's box for the said coin and I am sure this can mean it will be experiencing an upsurge in its price just like what we had seen with BTC. And this can be the reason why some institutional buyers are now starting to buy more and more ETH from the market.

Interestingly, an analysts working for VanEck, an institution that has applied to list a spot ether ETF, said they have raised their 2030 price prediction for Ethereum to $22,000. (https://www.theblock.co/post/298745/vaneck-analysts-raise-ethereum-price-target-to-22000-by-2030) As noticed, this modest prediction for the Ethereum's price is rooted on "ETF news, scaling progress,” and a “read of on-chain data.”

Now, with the strong potential of this coin for more real and robust growth ahead, do you think that Ethereum will achieve this prediction in 20230 or do you think that the timeframe can even be earlier?



Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 10, 2024, 11:04:19 PM
Now, with the strong potential of this coin for more real and robust growth ahead, do you think that Ethereum will achieve this prediction in 2030 or do you think that the timeframe can even be earlier?
Everything is possible in the future and we are ready to accept very high ETH prices, for example we will have $12K in 2025 and then $22K in 2029. However, I hope that the $22K price zone will not only be supported by market growth and ETH Spot ETFs. ETH price increase will be more sustainable if Ethereum gains widespread acceptance and adoption in the economy when chosen by large funds and financial institutions for tokenization purposes or even CBDC deployment.

The initial phase involving FOMO + accumulated value + speculative value will come to an end, ETH and many other native tokens really need to have the support of irreplaceable value in the economy to continue to exist and increase in price. I hope that support will come from the application of blockchain to enterprise, investment fund and national scale.

(https://www.tradingview.com/x/nHgj2EC5/)
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 11, 2024, 12:43:16 AM
While that seems like a lot, we are talking about 2030 here so that should not really be something that would be too unlikely to begin with at all. I think it should be noted that we are going to end up with something greater even, sure 22k would be fine but that doesn't mean that we are going to be just stuck there. We have about 5.5 years left, meaning one more bull run now soon and then we are going to end up with another bull run next time around with next halving as well. When you combine both of those two together, you are going to end up with a lot better than 22k possibly, so I think this guess is not that wrong at all, I believe it can happen.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: pmbug on June 11, 2024, 02:49:20 AM
6x in 6 years?  <grabs popcorn>

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: joniboini on June 11, 2024, 08:33:41 AM
My experience told me that any article released by big players with a narrative like this is usually their way to make retail fall into fomo so they can cash out soon. I've seen the same thing in the previous cycles, hard to say it will be different this time around. Sure, ETH can reach $22k, or $30k, or whatever, but I'll believe it when I see it instead of trusting their articles. We've yet to see BTC break past $100k after tons of news share that prediction in 2017 if I remember it correctly.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: hugeblack on June 11, 2024, 02:05:30 PM

If we assume that the price of Ethereum is strongly affected by the price of Bitcoin and that the price of Bitcoin changes according to halving cycles, the ATH is repeated every 4 years. Therefore, we are supposed to see a peak in 2025 and 2029, and that 2026 and 2030 are the bottom of the previous cycle, which is somewhat close to the ATH of the current cycle.


Therefore, saying that the price of Ethereum will be $22,000 in 2030 is an indirect statement that it will be more than $15,000 in 2025, which is a strong and unexpected rise, but anything is possible.


Why did he choose 2030 and not 2029, which many believe the ATH will be there?
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on June 11, 2024, 06:44:04 PM
We will all be here like play when we once discovered that Ethereum is up to that rate in value by 2030 or after the said year, one thing we must always remember consistently is the increase int he value of the crypto currencies and this has to begin with the prominent ones like we have in Ethereum, making investment in it is never a waste of time or money because we are expecting for a new all time high soon as well in it.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: milewilda on June 11, 2024, 11:38:12 PM
My experience told me that any article released by big players with a narrative like this is usually their way to make retail fall into fomo so they can cash out soon. I've seen the same thing in the previous cycles, hard to say it will be different this time around. Sure, ETH can reach $22k, or $30k, or whatever, but I'll believe it when I see it instead of trusting their articles. We've yet to see BTC break past $100k after tons of news share that prediction in 2017 if I remember it correctly.
When we are already fast approaching on bull run moment or time then we would really be seeing these kind of articles or whatever kind of news which came from some known people or institution or whatsoever but just like been said that it could neitherbe just that trying to simply hype it up to make some good exit or really just that saying their own views towards on the upcoming
market trend or condition. In crypto even if we do say that price might be too far off but we've seen on how many times that almost impossible numbers had been broken unexpectedly.
So we cant draw out some conclusions that ETH wont be able to hit 20k but honestly this is something hard to achieve on.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Lucius on June 12, 2024, 04:55:04 PM
I am of the opinion that everything is possible, although this speculation will not appeal to many who are thinking of investing in ETH with the aim of making a much larger profit, and x6 in 6 years is not something that some would be satisfied with. Realistically speaking, even BTC could increase its value as much or even more times by then, and for me personally BTC is a much safer investment.

It seems to me that ETH has lost a lot of fans since it moved to POS, although I may be wrong - ETH certainly has one big "advantage", which is that it is at least x20 cheaper than BTC.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: yhiaali3 on June 14, 2024, 06:21:29 AM
These predictions must be based on strong studies and analysis in order for companies to invest in spot Ethereum ETFs. They must expect a very high return in the coming years, so they decided to start investing at this price, which is considered low compared to the expected price in the future.

Personally, I do not rule out Ethereum reaching the price of 22K$, but I do not prefer to set a time frame for this rise, as the market is full of fluctuations and changes that can change expectations negatively or positively at any moment in an unexpected manner.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 14, 2024, 10:17:04 PM
I mean I do agree that big players like him do make these articles so that they could manipulate the market, that is not wrong at all and fully correct. However, we have to also see what is the discussion here, getting to 22k? That seems like not that impossible at all, seems quite easily achievable as well. I am not saying that we can't really have anything different, of course we could be lower too, that's an option but I do not think that we will. I think we are going to end up with something that will be quite decent. We just need to let it be before we could make it change any other way. We should ignore his statement, and ask the same question to ourselves.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Stompix on June 15, 2024, 04:33:49 PM
Now, with the strong potential of this coin for more real and robust growth ahead, do you think that Ethereum will achieve this prediction in 20230 or do you think that the timeframe can even be earlier?

I'm going to say it will be earlier than 20230  8) but not before 2030!
Joking aside looking back 4 years and how predictions worked I have doubts on anyone going that long in time.
Besides, VanEck saying something about the price of ETH is like Musk telling us how much X or Tesla will be worth, they have a fund and an ETF waiting, hard to consider them a non biased source.


My experience told me that any article released by big players with a narrative like this is usually their way to make retail fall into fomo so they can cash out soon.

They have a product to sell:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1137360/000113736021000514/ethereumstrategyetf485afil.htm
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 15, 2024, 10:40:12 PM
My experience told me that any article released by big players with a narrative like this is usually their way to make retail fall into fomo so they can cash out soon.
You're right. It is not surprising if they are spreading good news about the potential price of Ethereum to skyrocket in the next few years. This easily makes people to believe it when it is predicted by big players, popular people, or famous media. However, the person who tries to be more realistic like me, will never trust them because I see the current price is too far from $22,000.  :D

Sure, ETH can reach $22k, or $30k, or whatever, but I'll believe it when I see it instead of trusting their articles. We've yet to see BTC break past $100k after tons of news share that prediction in 2017 if I remember it correctly.
Indeed, nothing is impossible if there is a big thing to trigger the price to skyrocket. However, I am sure it is not enough if only the ETF factor which triggers the price to skyrocket. Sure, it is not so different when people predicted the Bitcoin price will be $100k in 2020-2021. At the end of the day, it is only the way of whales or big players to take advantage from the FOMO/hype.

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: pmbug on June 16, 2024, 01:04:12 PM
Eric Balchunas (Bloomberg ETF analyst) says SEC had a flurry of communications with ETH ETF applicants and the SEC guidance was "light".  He upped his prediction on a launch date for the ETH ETFs to July 2.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 18, 2024, 11:31:46 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: pmbug on June 19, 2024, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Consensys
Today we’re happy to announce a major win for Ethereum developers, technology providers, and industry participants: the Enforcement Division of the SEC has notified us that it is closing its investigation into Ethereum 2.0.

This means that the SEC will not bring charges alleging that sales of ETH are securities transactions.

~~~

The decision follows a letter we sent on June 7, asking the SEC to confirm that the May ETH ETF approvals, which were premised on ETH being a commodity, meant the agency would close its Ethereum 2.0 investigation.
...

https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230654789984354
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: bitbit97 on June 19, 2024, 03:04:10 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.

Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: armanda90 on June 19, 2024, 09:50:40 PM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).
Bit difficult accepting with this prediction how possibility left five years later Ethereum price reach above $22k, its most unbelievable looking recent ethereum price and bitcoin keep stable at lower price.
Need to see any possibilities before predicting too high of ethereum price although nothing impossible in cryptocurrency but movement progress of ethereum depend with bitcoin, if bitcoin get stuck and difficult reach to higher price I don't think ethereum has opportunity to make new higher price or reach almost half of bitcoin price.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: milewilda on June 19, 2024, 09:58:52 PM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).
Bit difficult accepting with this prediction how possibility left five years later Ethereum price reach above $22k, its most unbelievable looking recent ethereum price and bitcoin keep stable at lower price.
Need to see any possibilities before predicting too high of ethereum price although nothing impossible in cryptocurrency but movement progress of ethereum depend with bitcoin, if bitcoin get stuck and difficult reach to higher price I don't think ethereum has opportunity to make new higher price or reach almost half of bitcoin price.
When it comes on hearing out different speculative approach about prices whether on Bitcoin or with some top altcoins then it would really be better that you shouldnt really be that making yourself that too easily to believe or making yourself that getting hyped up on the moment that you do see those huge numbers on which some of them are really that too unrealistic
if we do base up on the duration or the time that they are projecting into. If you are someone who do have that experience towards this market then you would
really be able to see those things to be too far off even if we do speak about a couple of market cycles on which it cant be still that reachable but well everything is possible into this crypto
space but somewhat it would be better that you shouldnt be that anticipating too much.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 19, 2024, 10:02:21 PM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).
Bit difficult accepting with this prediction how possibility left five years later Ethereum price reach above $22k, its most unbelievable looking recent ethereum price and bitcoin keep stable at lower price.
Need to see any possibilities before predicting too high of ethereum price although nothing impossible in cryptocurrency but movement progress of ethereum depend with bitcoin, if bitcoin get stuck and difficult reach to higher price I don't think ethereum has opportunity to make new higher price or reach almost half of bitcoin price.
It's unjust to think of "ethereum reaching half of the bitcoin price". I wonder how long it would ever be for bitcoin to reach $30k for instance.

What I just know is that ethereum will gradually spike for a new ATH every bull run season. The upcoming bull run season, will give us a hint on what to expect about ethereum price in 2030. It can be below the price of $15k or higher. Fingers crossed till then
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Lucius on June 20, 2024, 03:32:38 PM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).

The story about the ETH max supply has become rather frivolous over the years, because I read that the limit will be determined, and then it won't be, and so on until today. What seems to me is that this undefined max supply in combination with x6 times more coins in circulation compared to BTC is the reason why ETH is right behind BTC in terms of marketcap.

The only positive thing after they gave up on POW is the spot ETF, and time will tell if investors will be interested in the same as it is the case with the spot BTC ETFs.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: bitbit97 on June 20, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).

The story about the ETH max supply has become rather frivolous over the years, because I read that the limit will be determined, and then it won't be, and so on until today. What seems to me is that this undefined max supply in combination with x6 times more coins in circulation compared to BTC is the reason why ETH is right behind BTC in terms of marketcap.

The only positive thing after they gave up on POW is the spot ETF, and time will tell if investors will be interested in the same as it is the case with the spot BTC ETFs.

About that ETF approval - such a positive news should have triggered a hysteria. People shouting "we pwnd SEC" must have appeared, but instead I see that the price barely changed.

I took ETH price graph, took same length for period and price, and added how it is going to look if it would really be $22k by 2023. Made this for people to understand how short 5 years period is and how sharp growth has to be.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvz7NQhK/image.png)

Notice that I have drawn that the price would only grow, when IRL such thing hardly ever happen to any crypto. Imo $22k is way to far away for 5 years or 10 years distance, and ETF approval isnt enough
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 20, 2024, 09:50:27 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.
I don't think it will totally depend on the price of Bitcoin in 2030. Ethereum can increase massively although Bitcoin price doesn't increase high. Some factors like Ethereum ETF, Ethereum adoption, and Ethereum development can trigger the price increasing significantly. However, it is difficult to predict now about the price of Ethereum in 2030. Honestly, I'm not sure if it is really possible to be $22k in 2030.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.
If you consider 4 year cycle, 2030 should be a bearish season. In the next cycle, 2026-2027 is the bearish season and 2028-2029 is bullish season. So, 2030-2031 is the bearish season again. If the trends and pattern of price growth of crypto coins are still the same, we will see the bearish season in 2030. And the price of Ethereum should be decreasing a lot at that time.

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Lucius on June 21, 2024, 11:57:19 AM
About that ETF approval - such a positive news should have triggered a hysteria. People shouting "we pwnd SEC" must have appeared, but instead I see that the price barely changed.

If you remember, it was similar with the approval of spot BTC ETFs, the news itself was positive, but it took some time to start affecting the price. It is possible that this will happen with ETH as well, although it seems that regardless of the approval of the ETF, everything still depends on how the price of BTC will move. It would be really strange if the price of ETH goes up and at the same time BTC goes down.

I took ETH price graph, took same length for period and price, and added how it is going to look if it would really be $22k by 2023. Made this for people to understand how short 5 years period is and how sharp growth has to be.

Notice that I have drawn that the price would only grow, when IRL such thing hardly ever happen to any crypto. Imo $22k is way to far away for 5 years or 10 years distance, and ETF approval isnt enough


As I already wrote, it is not an optimistic speculation for those who want a big profit with ETH, because by 2030 BTC will probably grow at least as much (if not more). One day ETH could be worth $20k+, but then BTC will probably be worth several hundred thousand $ per coin.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Stompix on June 21, 2024, 12:20:46 PM
I don't think it will totally depend on the price of Bitcoin in 2030. Ethereum can increase massively although Bitcoin price doesn't increase high. Some factors like Ethereum ETF, Ethereum adoption, and Ethereum development can trigger the price increasing significantly.

Yeah except the fact that with all the development and so-called adoption, ETH was losing against BTC , after managing to reach 12:1 in 2021 from there it has continuously lost, reaching 18:1, and we can all agree that the current rise in ETH is just because of the market going green otherwise ETH would be leading the growth, which ...it isn't!

So, with Bitcoin in a continuous bear market, I don't see ETH reaching even 5k let alone 20k.

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: vegasus on June 30, 2024, 11:15:24 PM
About that ETF approval - such a positive news should have triggered a hysteria. People shouting "we pwnd SEC" must have appeared, but instead I see that the price barely changed.

If you remember, it was similar with the approval of spot BTC ETFs, the news itself was positive, but it took some time to start affecting the price. It is possible that this will happen with ETH as well, although it seems that regardless of the approval of the ETF, everything still depends on how the price of BTC will move. It would be really strange if the price of ETH goes up and at the same time BTC goes down.
Yes, ETFs have not directly had a big influence on the price development of ETH and BTC so far. But at least it will have a good effect in the future. Yes, however, positive news will usually have a good effect, whether in the short or long term.

Currently, the highest ETH price is still at $3,973, if I'm not mistaken, it happened on May 27. And indeed, currently the price of ETH is dropping quite a bit, so it's following the market, especially BTC is also dropping.

So let's just wait for the bullish era to actually occur.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: philipma1957 on July 01, 2024, 11:38:33 PM

(https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2024/05/20240523_Ethereum_News_3-1200x675.jpg?isSafari=false&isMobile=false)

The approval of spot Ethereum ETFs will be opening the Pandora's box for the said coin and I am sure this can mean it will be experiencing an upsurge in its price just like what we had seen with BTC. And this can be the reason why some institutional buyers are now starting to buy more and more ETH from the market.

Interestingly, an analysts working for VanEck, an institution that has applied to list a spot ether ETF, said they have raised their 2030 price prediction for Ethereum to $22,000. (https://www.theblock.co/post/298745/vaneck-analysts-raise-ethereum-price-target-to-22000-by-2030) As noticed, this modest prediction for the Ethereum's price is rooted on "ETF news, scaling progress,” and a “read of on-chain data.”

Now, with the strong potential of this coin for more real and robust growth ahead, do you think that Ethereum will achieve this prediction in 20230 or do you think that the timeframe can even be earlier?

This is a dead coin. It has simply not crashed and burned.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: bounceback on July 02, 2024, 06:03:07 AM
Yes, ETFs have not directly had a big influence on the price development of ETH and BTC so far. But at least it will have a good effect in the future. Yes, however, positive news will usually have a good effect, whether in the short or long term.

Currently, the highest ETH price is still at $3,973, if I'm not mistaken, it happened on May 27. And indeed, currently the price of ETH is dropping quite a bit, so it's following the market, especially BTC is also dropping.

So let's just wait for the bullish era to actually occur.
Such as with ETF Bitcoin approval, not get directly had big influence for bitcoin reach to the higher price and the same with ETF Ethereum since approval need more longer time raising to the higher price.
But comparison with Ethereum currently price around $3400 with OP target expected reach above $22k on six years later seems bit possibility and almost impossible. I think need magician to see bitcoin reach more higher price before expecting with Ethereum because every time Ethereum price always following with bitcoin price.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: philipma1957 on July 20, 2024, 06:12:55 AM
Just dont forget, that one of the reasons why people predict Bitcoin price to go up and up is its limited maximum supply. Ethereum is infinite. Imo, something that is infinite will never be in high demand, as it will never be unique. If we look on the picture of Ethereum price, and find $22k, wont it be almost a right angle of price line? Its 5 years left and the price must do 6 times. Price must double each years. Never saw phenomenon in crypto from old altcoins with only one significant positive news (ETH approval).

The story about the ETH max supply has become rather frivolous over the years, because I read that the limit will be determined, and then it won't be, and so on until today. What seems to me is that this undefined max supply in combination with x6 times more coins in circulation compared to BTC is the reason why ETH is right behind BTC in terms of marketcap.

The only positive thing after they gave up on POW is the spot ETF, and time will tell if investors will be interested in the same as it is the case with the spot BTC ETFs.

They made multiple rule changes that affected holders and miners. Any given day they can do this again.

They cost me two eth coins when they rolled back the blockchain to fix the hack.

I spent over 100 hours time trying to recover these two coins.

I am not the only person that lost coins with the rollback.

They then killed pow hurting the gpu industry they then alter the blockchain again. Erasing three transctions on me that I was able to recover this time it was 3500 usd worth of eth.

I would never hold it again. To have full transparency I have 28 cents worth on coin base. and two unrecoverable coins in a very old wallet.

It people over to buy from me I ask them not to use eth.

But I guess people have faith in Mr V I don’t.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Lucius on July 20, 2024, 02:34:44 PM
They made multiple rule changes that affected holders and miners. Any given day they can do this again.
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But I guess people have faith in Mr V I don’t.


These constant changes definitely do not instill confidence in investors, but when you are second on the list behind BTC, it obviously means something. I already wrote that one of the biggest advantages that ETH has over BTC is actually its price, because for the price of 1 BTC you can buy approximately 20 ETH, and that is crucial for some, regardless of all the technical shortcomings that most people probably don't even know about.

The second thing is that ETH has a "leader", which many consider to be some kind of advantage, but it is actually a disadvantage - Vitalik even announced at one point that he plans to retire, but we know that this will never happen.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: MUGNIA on July 20, 2024, 04:04:59 PM
2030 is still quite far away, so predictions can be made at any time and at any time, because as we know in crypto anything can happen, hoping that the price of eth in 2030 will reach 22k$ is only natural, and anything can be realized, if it fits the bullrun story and the level of interest in wanting to own more for ETH
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Metha Wulandarin on July 20, 2024, 07:25:35 PM
I think it can happen if every year Ethereum increases by $3k or every Altcoin season increases by $5k, although in the crypto world nothing is impossible but everything must have a reason And can be accepted by common sense.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Roseline492 on July 20, 2024, 08:47:36 PM
Now, with the strong potential of this coin for more real and robust growth ahead, do you think that Ethereum will achieve this prediction in 20230 or do you think that the timeframe can even be earlier?

Honestly speaking I'm not against the growth of Ethereum but I seriously doubt if it will be able to get to that amount in 2030 because one thing you should also put in consideration is that we are currently at the year of 2024 and we barely have more six years to 2030 and the price of Ethereum has not even gone anywhere so there is no chance it will be able to make that kind of serious move within the number of years remaining.

However if we consider how the price of Ethereum has been moving right from the beginning you will see that Ethereum price movement patterns is quite far from how Bitcoin behaves on the market because with a space of two days Bitcoin can possibly surprise everyone but in the case of Ethereum is always difficult to expect a serious move so I normally consider Ethereum as a coin that takes it time to move.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: pieppiep on July 21, 2024, 08:44:21 PM
I think it can happen if every year Ethereum increases by $3k or every Altcoin season increases by $5k, although in the crypto world nothing is impossible but everything must have a reason And can be accepted by common sense.
Ethereum is indeed full of surprises, but to make the price increase for Ethereum that many people want, even when the Ethereum ETF occurs, many hope it will trigger the altcoin season, which is ultimately just empty talk, meaning that no one can provide a guarantee of getting a price increase. We must realize that the supply of Ethereum is too much and that is the main factor that makes it difficult for whales to increase the price of Ethereum.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Metha Wulandarin on July 21, 2024, 09:19:50 PM
I think it can happen if every year Ethereum increases by $3k or every Altcoin season increases by $5k, although in the crypto world nothing is impossible but everything must have a reason And can be accepted by common sense.
Ethereum is indeed full of surprises, but to make the price increase for Ethereum that many people want, even when the Ethereum ETF occurs, many hope it will trigger the altcoin season, which is ultimately just empty talk, meaning that no one can provide a guarantee of getting a price increase. We must realize that the supply of Ethereum is too much and that is the main factor that makes it difficult for whales to increase the price of Ethereum.
Relax, maybe it's not time yet, when it's time all the questions will be answered by themselves.
Altcoin season is still far away and Ethereum is still giving everyone the opportunity to prepare for the Altcoin season or bullish season.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: electronicash on July 21, 2024, 09:43:33 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.

this is going to make a lot of people richer than ever.  but for it to go that high it will need to have a bull run of more than 2 years before it could achieve that high which i doubt there will be that kind of bull run. after a bull run lasts a year, it usually has to go down. there is not much people who could make it happen and people will keep on taking profit before the price could even get to reach $10k.

institutions predicting this high obviously just makingthe hype. institutions predicted BTC to be $100k too back in 2021, never happened. but i hope this time they do.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: koang on July 25, 2024, 05:08:53 AM

institutions predicting this high obviously just makingthe hype. institutions predicted BTC to be $100k too back in 2021, never happened. but i hope this time they do.

Institutions making huge profits by hyping retail investors :)
I know Eth is a good Alt but it's still an Altcoin and when institutions make predictions the prices are this high, it scares me.
I mean, that would be cool but it would also be pretty surprising, right?
So I will still follow Bitcoin movements when investing in Alt, Ignore the noise, and focus on the King.
ETH is  the mother of alts, if the King runs, they run
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Metha Wulandarin on July 26, 2024, 06:05:09 PM
institutions predicting this high obviously just makingthe hype. institutions predicted BTC to be $100k too back in 2021, never happened. but i hope this time they do.
I thought I was the only one who thought that they were just making it up, but it turns out you thought so too.
I think they use their name to cause panic from everyone to buy Ethereum, if it works the price of ETH must have moved up a little but don't forget that Bitcoin regulates the rise and fall of other coins.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Gurujebs on July 26, 2024, 06:15:07 PM
2030 is still quite far away, so predictions can be made at any time and at any time, because as we know in crypto anything can happen, hoping that the price of eth in 2030 will reach 22k$ is only natural, and anything can be realized, if it fits the bullrun story and the level of interest in wanting to own more for ETH

2030 is like 6 years from now and I'm not sure if that is going to be possible. Let's do the math and see by ourselves. This bull run is not sure of taking Bitcoin to $100k yet because it seems all.driving force is now reliance on US election and that could even be a set up by market manipulations. If this is the end of the bull run all time high, then we can't see new price until next halving and that's the halving that can take ethereum to around $17k or less just like Bitcoin did in the past.

We can only see ethereum around $22k by 2 more halving of Bitcoin if things goes well and it wouldn't be the all time high but definitely will touch above that price and perhaps if any corrections, we will see price around there.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: MRY on September 15, 2024, 01:53:13 PM
institutions predicting this high obviously just makingthe hype. institutions predicted BTC to be $100k too back in 2021, never happened. but i hope this time they do.
I thought I was the only one who thought that they were just making it up, but it turns out you thought so too.
I think they use their name to cause panic from everyone to buy Ethereum, if it works the price of ETH must have moved up a little but don't forget that Bitcoin regulates the rise and fall of other coins.
Well now you know you aren’t alone in thinking that way! It does look like they are actually using their popularity to create a panic and make people buy Ethereum. If their plan works as intended, well, maybe the price of ETH will go up a little. That being said, one must also never lose sight of the fact that Bitcoin is still the king that sets the trend for all the rest of the altcoins including ETH. As such, even if there is some action in ETH, it is the Bitcoin that will make some massive move that will spark the market.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: sampoerna on September 27, 2024, 11:16:12 PM
2030 is still quite far away, so predictions can be made at any time and at any time, because as we know in crypto anything can happen, hoping that the price of eth in 2030 will reach 22k$ is only natural, and anything can be realized, if it fits the bullrun story and the level of interest in wanting to own more for ETH
2030 means around the next bullrun season, because it is estimated that the real bullrun this season will be in 2025 and the next season will be in 2030. If this Bullrun can reach $10k, maybe next season's bullrun Ethereum price can reach that number. However, if not, well, maybe it will be a bit difficult.

but as preparation, after taking profits in this bullrun, it is better to set aside money to scoop up ETH again in the bearish season and hold it for long-term holding, at least to meet the probable bullrun in 2023.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: milewilda on September 28, 2024, 03:38:22 PM
2030 is still quite far away, so predictions can be made at any time and at any time, because as we know in crypto anything can happen, hoping that the price of eth in 2030 will reach 22k$ is only natural, and anything can be realized, if it fits the bullrun story and the level of interest in wanting to own more for ETH
2030 means around the next bullrun season, because it is estimated that the real bullrun this season will be in 2025 and the next season will be in 2030. If this Bullrun can reach $10k, maybe next season's bullrun Ethereum price can reach that number. However, if not, well, maybe it will be a bit difficult.

but as preparation, after taking profits in this bullrun, it is better to set aside money to scoop up ETH again in the bearish season and hold it for long-term holding, at least to meet the probable bullrun in 2023.
Totally that hard on making out some assumptions about future prices specially into those future cycles on which people do really love on talking into. We do know that
instutional funds or money is already that starting up to flow into this space and we arent that still yet starting on which on the moment that those funds would really be
starting to flow + having that increase on adoption and recognition then we might be seeing these numbers. As for ETH then there's no way that we could be able to tell
yet flippening could really happen.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Asiska02 on October 01, 2024, 10:10:15 PM
That’s quite a long time from now and if we are going to base on the assumption of reaching that price, it might be too early to make those conclusions. The market is very likely to be more porous than it is now and getting that price from the price it is now is actually not something that can be actualized yet. From now till 2030, we would have witnessed another bull run which should be something we can now make assumptions on at that time after seeing how far the price of Ethereum could have been by that time. It’s better not to make early predictions or believe in the saying of some influencers to shape what we see or feel about the market.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: NotATether on October 03, 2024, 01:22:31 PM
That’s quite a long time from now and if we are going to base on the assumption of reaching that price, it might be too early to make those conclusions. The market is very likely to be more porous than it is now and getting that price from the price it is now is actually not something that can be actualized yet. From now till 2030, we would have witnessed another bull run which should be something we can now make assumptions on at that time after seeing how far the price of Ethereum could have been by that time. It’s better not to make early predictions or believe in the saying of some influencers to shape what we see or feel about the market.

At time we can probably expect BTC to be worth 10 million dollars by then. It's not something that is totally out of the realm of possibility happening, so when Vitalik says that ETH could go to at level, I just imagine that this used to be Bitcoin's price not too long ago, and he should be thinking about going higher with more optimistic predictions.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: taufik123 on October 08, 2024, 07:53:39 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.
Hopefully that happens, and the most important thing now is how we can increase our current Bitcoin and Ethereum holdings.
It's useless if the price of ETH can reach $22k but you don't have the ETH you bought when the price is still around $2k++.

I can imagine when the price of ETH can rise 10x from now, it will be history that will never be repeated.
Now I'm just trying to collect more and fill my bag to prepare for the long journey ahead.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 09, 2024, 11:21:54 PM
Ethereum reaching the said amount of $22k in 2030, depends on how far the bitcoin price could go by then. If bitcoin price could reach $400k by 2030, I don't see anything stopping ethereum from climbing to a price of $22k by then.

If I am not mistaken, the year 2030 should be a bull run year that bitcoin, and other top altcoins are meant to soar in price. Predicting a price of $22k, coupled with ethereum ETF approval of now to trigger the ethereum price as of then is very possible to happen.
Hopefully that happens, and the most important thing now is how we can increase our current Bitcoin and Ethereum holdings.
It's useless if the price of ETH can reach $22k but you don't have the ETH you bought when the price is still around $2k++.

I can imagine when the price of ETH can rise 10x from now, it will be history that will never be repeated.
Now I'm just trying to collect more and fill my bag to prepare for the long journey ahead.
That's the best thing to do than anticipating Bitcoin and Ethereum to go high in price in the future; while you have no Bitcoin or Ethereum, you are accumulating as of now to sell in the future when the market will be in a bullish state.

It's very likely for that to happen, but if it does, that will be the worst that could happen to such a person if after many years of predicting a higher price of Bitcoin or Ethereum; they have no Bitcoin or Ethereum in their portfolio that they bought at a low price with the intent to sell at a high price.

That will be an unforgettable experience for someone who misses a good opportunity to invest in Bitcoin when it was at a low price
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: UNIVERSE on October 09, 2024, 11:48:29 PM
At time we can probably expect BTC to be worth 10 million dollars by then. It's not something that is totally out of the realm of possibility happening, so when Vitalik says that ETH could go to at level, I just imagine that this used to be Bitcoin's price not too long ago, and he should be thinking about going higher with more optimistic predictions.
Of course, it is not something impossible to happen. Bitcoin can $1 million or even $10 million. Ethereum also can be $22,000 or above. But we don't know when this will happen, it can be in 2030, in 2035, in 2040. I don't think it is impossible but it is surely hard to know when it will happen. Vitalik can say that, but I don't want to be not realistically. I think it is better to keep targeting reasonable price to reach in this bullrun season.

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: taufik123 on October 10, 2024, 08:43:22 PM
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It's very likely for that to happen, but if it does, that will be the worst that could happen to such a person if after many years of predicting a higher price of Bitcoin or Ethereum; they have no Bitcoin or Ethereum in their portfolio that they bought at a low price with the intent to sell at a high price.

That will be an unforgettable experience for someone who misses a good opportunity to invest in Bitcoin when it was at a low price
It is not going to miss an opportunity like this many times, because the increase in the price of Bitcoin after the bears is certainly very extraordinary.
Trying to hold Bitcoin and Ethereum for the long term and not to sell them in the short term.

Even if the target is achieved, maybe I will only sell a part of it or take the profit first, so there will be more opportunities to double the profit.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: alltalk on October 10, 2024, 11:28:04 PM
It is not going to miss an opportunity like this many times, because the increase in the price of Bitcoin after the bears is certainly very extraordinary.
It is very unfortunate to miss the opportunity to buy at a very low price. But I think everyone still can buy Ethereum or any other coins now. The peak of the price is predicted in the next year. Anyway, although Bitcoin has increased massively, it looks like not reaching its highest price in this cycle.

Trying to hold Bitcoin and Ethereum for the long term and not to sell them in the short term.
Holding a long term for these coins are good. BTC and ETH are surely the most recommended coins. However, just ensure to have clear target for selling price.

Even if the target is achieved, maybe I will only sell a part of it or take the profit first, so there will be more opportunities to double the profit.
If I were you, I will sell all the coins when they reach the target. We don't be greedy, just focus on the target. If we try to be greedy, it sometimes ends up with bad things.

Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: taufik123 on October 11, 2024, 07:29:39 PM
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If I were you, I will sell all the coins when they reach the target. We don't be greedy, just focus on the target. If we try to be greedy, it sometimes ends up with bad things.
Take profit is an option for everyone, if you want to take everything then it is your decision.
But I will probably only sell 75% and leave it for moonbags, when the price may not be predictable and continue to rise.

As a trader, you should not be greedy, because greed will make all strategies messy. I will stay away from this greed as much as possible.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 11, 2024, 09:59:37 PM
Having a huge potential with ETH in the future is quite possible and I believe we are going to definitely see this happen for sure. However, we can't really put price tags like these in our brain and hope for the best, just say it will go up and you will be happier. Plus, this isn't something special to ETH, we are going to see other coins go up too, bitcoin will probably be 500k or maybe more by that time as well. This isn't some dig at ETH, we are going to see ETH be great, its just so simple to see that we are going to get great results from other coins as well so its not JUST about ETH and what it will do.
Title: Re: VanEck: Ethereum price target to $22,000 by 2030
Post by: sagarmota10 on October 12, 2024, 05:10:53 AM
ETH is the most useful coin after the BTC, in the crypto market we can see price fluctuations day to day and its to High volatile. ETH price can predict by this cycle 15k 20k for sure no need to wait for 2030.