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Title: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 06, 2024, 05:54:12 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)

Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: philipma1957 on June 06, 2024, 06:05:40 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: salad daging on June 06, 2024, 06:24:31 PM
10 years ago I didn't know bitcoin, maybe when I first heard it, I still doubted that bitcoin would rise like now. Lol

10 years ago bitcoin was doubted a lot and even viewed this coin as garbage they said it would not be as valuable as it is now, we know some well-known US investors always say bitcoin will fail but they are now bitcoin investors.

At least I've felt how bitcoin in 2021 is a sizable profit.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on June 06, 2024, 08:25:59 PM
As for the category of those we may referred to as not being smart enough in taking opportunities, they are the type that doesn't like taking risk as well in uncertain circumstances, in life, if we must make it, then we must be ready to first loose it, if many had actually known that bitcoin would have turned to this big today, many a lot of them would have invested and hold till date, same applies to other investment, we must be ready to take risk on investing in them.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 06, 2024, 09:21:15 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Yeah, me too. I was learning C++ and heard about BTC in 2012 and mocked it, I was even quite happy to think that BTC was dead after the collapse of MT.Gox in 2014. I only really entered the crypto market in 2017 when ICO wave opened a big door for blockchain to enter the technology market. It's sad that blockchain still can't succeed like crypto and the promises of those ICO-projects are just scams. I was wrong to believe in unrealistic things and ignore the value of BTC in the crypto market and in the economy.

Anyway, it's also great that I'm still in this crypto market, making a little profit and becoming one of the early crypto supporters. I think that 10 years from now I will not regret spending so much time on BTC and crypto in the early stages of crypto market.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on June 06, 2024, 10:22:17 PM
Most people so much criticize things they have no idea about of, sincerely most people don't know anything about bitcoin and since they don't understand the technology they don't mind also soiling the heart of other people to entirely erased everything about what they don't know of, that is why most times it's good to blindly do some random investment to secure cool space when it might have gotten to a better phase.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: vegasus on June 06, 2024, 10:31:44 PM
2014. I didn't even know about Bitcoin at that time. In that year, I was just getting to know about online jobs that earn money with Adsense, by creating a website or YouTube and then managing it, then earning money from Adsense.

Even though at that time he was already familiar with the online world, there was absolutely no sign of news about Bitcoin. Ha ha

If I were in their position at that time, who in fact didn't know what Bitcoin was, then maybe I would have done the same thing, would have smiled and been amazed. What is Bitcoin, and maybe even when I watched the news at that time, I might have just skipped it, because in my mindset at that time, investment was always expensive, so it didn't seem like my world.

Unfortunately, I only learned about Bitcoin and its value in 2017 or 2018, when I saw someone who was just at home and became very successful thanks to Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 06, 2024, 11:16:20 PM
I just know Bitcoin in 2018, so I don't know about Bitcoin in 2014-2015. If there is a person who said Bitcoin to $10k at that time, I may not trust him as well. Many people who don't believe it because people have no knowledge about Bitcoin. People more often heard about the negative side on Bitcoin. So, people become pessimistic if there is someone who stated something too big about Bitcoin. However, it is interesting that the person knows Bitcoin to be $10k in the next 3 years. Does he count it based on the 4 years cycle?

Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Z-tight on June 06, 2024, 11:28:10 PM
You are correct, i am not one of BTC's early adopters, but i am glad that i took interest in it when i found out about it, there are so many people that were misled by the media about BTC, and they lost interest without even trying to find out things by themselves. I am glad and thankful that Satoshi created something like BTC, and it can only get better for bitcoiners.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Baofeng on June 06, 2024, 11:31:26 PM
Same here, I knew Bitcoin around 2014 because I do freelance work that time and it always pop up in my feed and obviously it was quite cheap that time and never listen to what I saw or read until 2017 (I think majority did joined around that time frame).

So yeah there's a lot of lessons to be learn not just in crypto, but in life in general. We don't know that the future holds, maybe there are some smart people that advise us, but still depends on our decision on which path we wanted to, if we listen to them, then if might be the wrong path for us. But if we go and make our own decision and not that "what if", we could be successful as well.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 07, 2024, 08:58:20 AM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)


So your story/thread here is base on your own experience and indeed that you are the one that is not so smart back then ,but surely now you are not just smart but also have a guts in investing your funds
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on June 07, 2024, 12:33:29 PM
Actually people are not aware of the future and nobody knows what will happen in the future but I think if we have missed the chance in the past then we should not regret it because we are alive and we can take benefit from current situations.

There is no fault of those people who did not believe in the success of Bitcoin because at that time Bitcoin was not such a successful coin like that today. But those who are missing the chance to invest in Bitcoin now will totally be wrong because everything they are seeing with their own eyes so they should not skip its advantages if they have money.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 07, 2024, 01:12:32 PM
So your story/thread here is base on your own experience and indeed that you are the one that is not so smart back then ,but surely now you are not just smart but also have a guts in investing your funds

You got it all wrong - didn't I make it clear that I listened to a man who believed in Bitcoin as opposed to the one who called it a "mirage"? I guess that should put me in the smart category, even though I earned my first BTC through faucets, and invested only in 2015 when the price was just a little less than $200.



By the way, why did you quote the entire post - do you think that makes sense?
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitbit97 on June 07, 2024, 01:35:12 PM
And there are some who still does not believe in crypto. Think it is sort of a virtual money. Or think that cryptocurrency only usage is helping criminals to launder money. Or believe that all crypto is Ponzi. Some still resist to learn about crypto, thinking it is just a hype that will disappear in near future. When there are some people who still believe that crypto is easy money. People are different, but many are lazy to turn on their brain, and prefer to trust everything they see and hear.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: robelneo on June 07, 2024, 03:53:45 PM


I believed in Bitcoin right away after my first transaction and after reading why and how it was created but I was too late I registered on Bitcointalk 2013 but it took me 3 years after my first transactions like me so many of us only believe if it becomes popular and understand the technology behind Bitcoin
You know Bitcoin has the potential for huge profit but you're still looking for something new that is very similar to Bitcoin and wants to be an early bird.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 07, 2024, 05:03:18 PM
And there are some who still does not believe in crypto.
~snip~


It's not a matter of whether someone believes in something or not, nor should all people be considered less smart because they don't show interest in cryptocurrencies - it's a matter of how some people use their social position to influence people - some positively, some negatively.

The lesson of the story is that you should not follow people who are successful in life in everything, because money is not always a measure of someone's intelligence.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 07, 2024, 06:37:12 PM
Yeah and I belong to those who are not that smart haha if only I hodl all my Bitcoins way back 2017 I would be a millionaire in my local currency right now. I have maybe underestimated the potential of Bitcoin that time as I spent all of it before it makes newer ATH's on the next couple of years. Though I am just an average or even poor guy that is why you cannot blame me for spending all that Bitcoins I have. That is why right now I am paying attention to some cheaper coins that has potential to grow just like Bitcoin because I don't wanna miss the opportunity ever again.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 07, 2024, 10:20:43 PM
So your story/thread here is base on your own experience and indeed that you are the one that is not so smart back then ,but surely now you are not just smart but also have a guts in investing your funds

You got it all wrong
Ohh my bad ,did not pay attention to that part my apology .

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By the way, why did you quote the entire post - do you think that makes sense?
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Rruchi man on June 08, 2024, 12:45:59 PM
What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.
This makes sense. Some people who have been successful assume that based on their status, they are qualified to have an opinion on every topic. They can assume their opinions even without knowledge or research, and they can leave with consequences because they are fairly comfortable.

Someone who is less successful and very concerned with their success will try to get their facts correctly and make deep research before forming an opinion, they will not take any opinion without proper research even if it is coming from someone who is more successful than they are.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Faisal2202 on June 08, 2024, 06:54:07 PM
Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)
I am glad you followed Tim instead of Warren but unfortunately, I was not young enough at that time to get the benefit of BTC. But my elders did but they lost what they accumulated for free via faucets or other mining sites. They think it's useless at that time. The big barrier among people of my region is they just start to use things without proper knowledge they work like a donkey (no Offense, just a metaphor) but no mindset.

If you first examine the situation, and the potential, read about the project how much money is going in and out of this, if there was any data at that time then you would have some idea that this is not a opportunity to be missed. And yet many people lose many BTC they mined for free just because they thought its useless. I hope history will not repeat it self, I hope there would be a cave near me just like there was in Dark Series and I could go back and buy some BTC hahaha.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Hamza2424 on June 09, 2024, 07:34:24 PM
Yup, how can the pizza man forget, how he spent millions of $ worth of Bitcoin just for a few bucks, well he did what was right at that time, I can't say that any of us would be able to endure such high-profit pressure if we had Bitcon in a good amount back that just imagine you spent 10$ and now after a couple of months its $10K will you be able to resist. I know greed has no limits but the resistance against profit is even weaker compared to the resistance against loss.

No one was able to expect such bright future potential of Bitcoin in those days, so mostly people sold their coins, and those who owned them and forgot maximum of those as well lost their keys, some of them sold a massive amount and still holding some them, even those some coins are a massive number to accumulate these days still you know, and those are very rare who still own a good amount in their holding.

Mostly people make long term deciosn on the short sighted analysis that the reason maximum people lose in saving heavy return, that the reason it called patience is the key to success.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 09, 2024, 09:44:23 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Bitcoin was relatively a new technology and needed time to grow into something people could believe in, I really wouldn't blame those who doubted, because bitcoin was at that time what could be explained to be a miracle.

Even many who bought and held bitcoin back then didn't really understand what they held in their possession or its potential, many sold for a few dollars and many for a few thousands and some who believed in the vision held.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: electronicash on June 09, 2024, 10:11:54 PM

Tim believes in the new technology and him being from a prominent family does have information about the future of finance.  he may have already look at where the future is going as BTC started to rise up and started becoming known to people. 10 years ago he probably imagined things are going digital and people will be more into digital currencies such as BTC. he might even have inside information of the rich club where we many of us are not members.

he bought Ross Ulbritch coins when it was auctioned. not sure how else bid but he won.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 09, 2024, 11:03:08 PM
It's not been smart or not. The universe didn't cause everyone to believe in whatever was being said to them. There will be some people who would like to disagree or give unrealistic opinions to whatever said to them that others treasured to be like gold to them in the future

If most of us knew about bitcoin 10 years ago, I am sure we wouldn't easily concur with what someone would say to us about it, reaching a high amount knowing at the low price it was then.

For instance, would you easily agree or accept that bitcoin will reach $500k before the end of next year, knowing how low the bitcoin price is currently, to that said amount($500k).?
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: armanda90 on June 10, 2024, 01:50:43 AM
I don't think some of them smart but most luckiness after holding more than ten year ago and forget they have bitcoin assets until remember it right now and price pump drastically.
But had urgency problem with some people selling their bitcoin with lower price and got difficult with financial condition for reinvesting in bitcoin during have lower price.
Can't predicting with bitcoin price in the future and I don't think most of them not invest when lower price are not smart people, maybe they make bitcoin as short term investment but the luckiness hold it behind forget with bitcoin assets or its their free money and not matter hold for longer time.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 10, 2024, 05:26:02 PM
Yup, how can the pizza man forget, how he spent millions of $ worth of Bitcoin just for a few bucks, well he did what was right at that time, I can't say that any of us would be able to endure such high-profit pressure if we had Bitcon in a good amount back that just imagine you spent 10$ and now after a couple of months its $10K will you be able to resist. I know greed has no limits but the resistance against profit is even weaker compared to the resistance against loss.
~snip~


At a time when you could mine BTC with a personal computer and when the reward per block was 50 BTC, it is not surprising that someone would pay 2 pizzas for that much BTC considering the price that was then. As far as I know, Laszlo never regretted it, nor should he - because he showed that Bitcoin can be a currency, and besides, he went down in history just like some other people of that time like Hal Finney.

Most people at that time were not obsessed with profit like they are today, and that is one big difference.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: babo on June 13, 2024, 02:57:21 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.
...

it's always like this, those who see things in advance are always laughed at and made fun of, unfortunately
people don't see the things you see and they see them as impossible
when Michael Burry said that there would be an implosion of subprime mortgages people laughed at him, yet he was right
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 13, 2024, 03:36:56 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.
...

it's always like this, those who see things in advance are always laughed at and made fun of, unfortunately
people don't see the things you see and they see them as impossible
when Michael Burry said that there would be an implosion of subprime mortgages people laughed at him, yet he was right
We can also see this in the holy scriptures where where Noah tried to convince people to help him build the ark but no one believes in him then the flood happened it's all the same with that Bitcoin guy but if only people believe in them then they could be saved. But I also have this mind that what if we are those non believers? What do you think you will feel after that happened?
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 13, 2024, 05:19:09 PM
We can also see this in the holy scriptures where where Noah tried to convince people to help him build the ark but no one believes in him then the flood happened it's all the same with that Bitcoin guy but if only people believe in them then they could be saved. But I also have this mind that what if we are those non believers? What do you think you will feel after that happened?

I would not go so far as to compare religion with business opportunities/investments - because all I wanted to achieve with this topic is that we always question what influential people say, because some of them, for various reasons, have persistently said for more than a decade that Bitcoin is scam and that it will fail soon.

In an indirect way, they influenced many people who formed their opinion based on such statements, and what was even worse, they passed it on to others. A lie told a thousand times can easily turn into the truth - and maybe in 10 years someone will start a similar topic and wonder why some were smart and others were misled by people who don't understand something, and at the same time speak very badly about that.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: milewilda on June 13, 2024, 10:42:59 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)
We do have our own personal choice and other external factors would really be something that will really affect your overall decision on which it could neither be right or wrong.
We would be having those regrets just because we had followed the wrong person but there's no way on telling on whose right or wrong on that particular time.
So every decision that would be taken would really be having its accompanied risks on which it would really be that normal that results will really be totally random as well.
There are really just that those individuals who would really be having those kind of regrets that would be lasting up a lifetime.  :'(
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on June 14, 2024, 08:36:58 AM
10 years ago I didn't know bitcoin, maybe when I first heard it, I still doubted that bitcoin would rise like now. Lol

10 years ago bitcoin was doubted a lot and even viewed this coin as garbage they said it would not be as valuable as it is now, we know some well-known US investors always say bitcoin will fail but they are now bitcoin investors.

At least I've felt how bitcoin in 2021 is a sizable profit.
10 years ago I was familiar with bitcoin but wasn't sure bitcoin would be as expensive as it is now.  Because there was a lot of negative news attacking Bitcoin at that time and governments in several countries blocked it.  It was stupid of me at that time, why didn't I have accurate analysis and predictions? I should have been able to buy bitcoin because the price was very cheap.  Regret is always behind.  Forget it...
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: salad daging on June 14, 2024, 07:35:12 PM
10 years ago I didn't know bitcoin, maybe when I first heard it, I still doubted that bitcoin would rise like now. Lol

10 years ago bitcoin was doubted a lot and even viewed this coin as garbage they said it would not be as valuable as it is now, we know some well-known US investors always say bitcoin will fail but they are now bitcoin investors.

At least I've felt how bitcoin in 2021 is a sizable profit.
10 years ago I was familiar with bitcoin but wasn't sure bitcoin would be as expensive as it is now.  Because there was a lot of negative news attacking Bitcoin at that time and governments in several countries blocked it.  It was stupid of me at that time, why didn't I have accurate analysis and predictions? I should have been able to buy bitcoin because the price was very cheap.  Regret is always behind.  Forget it...
Never mention regret because no one knows that the price of bitcoin until now, we are not a strong holder when you profit 100% you will definitely sell it including me, we are not a group of people who continue to hoard profits that are in sight, so obviously when there is profit I will take it.
But now it still continues to accumulate bitcoin because it believes the price will rise again.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Rubel007 on June 14, 2024, 07:50:19 PM
If most of us knew about bitcoin 10 years ago, I am sure we wouldn't easily concur with what someone would say to us about it, reaching a high amount knowing at the low price it was then.
It is true that even if someone knows everything, they will not come  and there are many who respond as soon as they know. In this case too I think luck is an important factor. 10 years ago the name Bitcoin was unknown to most of the people. At that time, if you talk about investment without knowing anyone, there was no way to believe. But after 10 years now people know about Bitcoin and many of those who know are regretting it because they think that if they had known earlier then they would have been able to buy more Bitcoins.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on June 14, 2024, 08:30:25 PM
Never mention regret because no one knows that the price of bitcoin until now, we are not a strong holder when you profit 100% you will definitely sell it including me, we are not a group of people who continue to hoard profits that are in sight, so obviously when there is profit I will take it.
But now it still continues to accumulate bitcoin because it believes the price will rise again.
Quite human and it is normal, I also do that initially when there is a profit even 100% it is a high profit and selling it is the most appropriate option at that time.

But after I thought and learned how crypto worked, I also started training myself not to sell all my holdings,
I tried to set aside and save the Bitcoin I once owned for the long term.

Some have already been sold and some are still on hold for the long term.
The $100k++ target is my main target to start selling only a few.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: salad daging on June 14, 2024, 08:51:52 PM
Never mention regret because no one knows that the price of bitcoin until now, we are not a strong holder when you profit 100% you will definitely sell it including me, we are not a group of people who continue to hoard profits that are in sight, so obviously when there is profit I will take it.
But now it still continues to accumulate bitcoin because it believes the price will rise again.
Quite human and it is normal, I also do that initially when there is a profit even 100% it is a high profit and selling it is the most appropriate option at that time.

But after I thought and learned how crypto worked, I also started training myself not to sell all my holdings,
I tried to set aside and save the Bitcoin I once owned for the long term.

Some have already been sold and some are still on hold for the long term.
The $100k++ target is my main target to start selling only a few.
Bullish in 2021, for example, we sold all our bitcoin holdings because it was 100% profitable, so I would not be surprised and would not regret it even if the price of bitcoin was more than now, humans always have a need for money.

For now it is clear that we will not sell it even though it is 150% profit because accumulating starting from the price of $25K I believe that $100K will be easy to achieve next year, we hope to be patient to refrain from selling it even though it is profitable.

Will continue to HODL and DCA.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 14, 2024, 10:06:10 PM
10 years ago I was familiar with bitcoin but wasn't sure bitcoin would be as expensive as it is now.  Because there was a lot of negative news attacking Bitcoin at that time and governments in several countries blocked it.  It was stupid of me at that time, why didn't I have accurate analysis and predictions? I should have been able to buy bitcoin because the price was very cheap.  Regret is always behind.  Forget it...
Yes, there were too many bad news about Bitcoin 10 years ago. It may be caused Bitcoin was a new thing, people didn't really understand Bitcoin at that time. I think you were not stupid, you did the right way to not hurry buying Bitcoin at the moment. There is no accurate analysis, we must do it by considering the current news. Because there were too many negative news about Bitcoin at that time, it makes sense to avoid it.

Well, it must be very cheap. If there are people who bought at the moment, he must already get huge profits now. However, buying Bitcoin at that time will be like gambling. No one knows it will have big price like today.  :D

Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: milewilda on June 14, 2024, 10:13:59 PM
10 years ago I was familiar with bitcoin but wasn't sure bitcoin would be as expensive as it is now.  Because there was a lot of negative news attacking Bitcoin at that time and governments in several countries blocked it.  It was stupid of me at that time, why didn't I have accurate analysis and predictions? I should have been able to buy bitcoin because the price was very cheap.  Regret is always behind.  Forget it...
Yes, there were too many bad news about Bitcoin 10 years ago. It may be caused Bitcoin was a new thing, people didn't really understand Bitcoin at that time. I think you were not stupid, you did the right way to not hurry buying Bitcoin at the moment. There is no accurate analysis, we must do it by considering the current news. Because there were too many negative news about Bitcoin at that time, it makes sense to avoid it.

Well, it must be very cheap. If there are people who bought at the moment, he must already get huge profits now. However, buying Bitcoin at that time will be like gambling. No one knows it will have big price like today.  :D
Just like on what happened when Internet was just still on its early days which its not really that shocking and to those people who do believe that it would really be that something big in the future did really have been able to take advantage. It all matters about on the risks that you could really be able to put into and its true that due on being new or something in first time
then you would really be having that kind of hesitance on which its normal but taking up risks would really be always the main recipe for you to progress and taking up some
shot on changing up your life once you do be able to hit the right spot.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 14, 2024, 10:52:41 PM
If most of us knew about bitcoin 10 years ago, I am sure we wouldn't easily concur with what someone would say to us about it, reaching a high amount knowing at the low price it was then.
It is true that even if someone knows everything, they will not come  and there are many who respond as soon as they know. In this case too I think luck is an important factor. 10 years ago the name Bitcoin was unknown to most of the people. At that time, if you talk about investment without knowing anyone, there was no way to believe. But after 10 years now people know about Bitcoin and many of those who know are regretting it because they think that if they had known earlier then they would have been able to buy more Bitcoins.
That's life for you that makes us regret some of the decisions and steps we didn't take due to not being knowledgeable enough or acting out of ignorance.

So many of us have acted or regretted some of the things we didn't do long ago. However, when those things are positioned again, we don't tend to miss them again. Like bitcoin, those who failed to accept it or have it as a store of assets long ago, wouldn't want to miss buying it again, they have the basic knowledge. 
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: NotATether on June 15, 2024, 11:05:19 AM
Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

That has to be a Warren Buffett quote because that's the only person I recall as saying "rat poison squared".

I still can't believe he's still not acknowledging that Bitcoin is a real thing like Jamie Dimon (and Saylor) did. Is he waiting for the Bitcoin price to go up to $100K so that he can keep telling people that it is still a bubble?
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Gurujebs on June 15, 2024, 11:10:45 AM
What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)

There is this statement my people used to encourage who is trying to make it in life, they always say respect the successful but you should be careful of a person is trying to succeed. This is what Bitcoin has demonstrated, if many of us had that opportunity to go back in time and buy Bitcoin again, I'm very sure many will buy as much as many Bitcoin they can get there hands on.

I wouldn't say some people never believe Bitcoin but it's just that some people didn't have the opportunity to know Bitcoin to the way it's now in the public, the market collapse and retracement also made Bitcoin popular and became more famous but it's already too expensive for ordinary retailers.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: jeraldskie11 on June 15, 2024, 05:06:32 PM
Successful people is not always right especially when they talking about a stuff they didn't mastered. But honestly, it's favorable to listen to those successful ones than those who aren't because they are not only saying words but prove it to themselves. However, there are sometimes that those successful people thinks that they know everything, they easily judge everything base on what they think of it. As a follower of those successful people, this is what we should remember.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JISAN on June 15, 2024, 08:12:39 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.
That person was absolutely right and I think he is still alive and has enough bitcoins because he made a correct prediction 10 years ago.  While many were laughing that day when he mentioned a minimum of $10k, Bitcoin is now over $70k which is 7x what he said at the time.  Bitcoin is really like a magic who holds it as if he is carrying a magic box and using that magic box he can become rich.  It just requires some patience and some investment
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: kulkhan on June 15, 2024, 08:58:57 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.
That person was absolutely right and I think he is still alive and has enough bitcoins because he made a correct prediction 10 years ago.  While many were laughing that day when he mentioned a minimum of $10k, Bitcoin is now over $70k which is 7x what he said at the time.  Bitcoin is really like a magic who holds it as if he is carrying a magic box and using that magic box he can become rich.  It just requires some patience and some investment
Yes some people always smart and some people couldn’t think for future. We know who was bought Pizza by 10k Btc he was also a member of oir Forum. But he couldn’t think about Bitcoins future. If he were able to gase aboit bitcoins future he must hold bitcoin and he were a milliner there has no doubt. 

Even who are smart and hod bitcoin for 10 years he has been huge benefited. I think in 10 years he profited minimum 10x to 15x or more.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on June 15, 2024, 10:36:35 PM
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For now it is clear that we will not sell it even though it is 150% profit because accumulating starting from the price of $25K I believe that $100K will be easy to achieve next year, we hope to be patient to refrain from selling it even though it is profitable.

Will continue to HODL and DCA.
Make a wise choice and of course you learn from the past conditions, although it also depends on how much you buy now.
But setting a target of $100k++ and you are doing DCA right now, that is the work that needs to be done.

The bull run is still not fully underway after the halving occurred, and this is an opportunity to continue accumulating Bitcoin and some potential altcoins that will provide greater profits.
Whoever is able to survive and do the right strategy, he will gain an advantage in the next bull run season.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on June 15, 2024, 11:17:24 PM
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For now it is clear that we will not sell it even though it is 150% profit because accumulating starting from the price of $25K I believe that $100K will be easy to achieve next year, we hope to be patient to refrain from selling it even though it is profitable.

Will continue to HODL and DCA.
Make a wise choice and of course you learn from the past conditions, although it also depends on how much you buy now.
But setting a target of $100k++ and you are doing DCA right now, that is the work that needs to be done.

The bull run is still not fully underway after the halving occurred, and this is an opportunity to continue accumulating Bitcoin and some potential altcoins that will provide greater profits.
Whoever is able to survive and do the right strategy, he will gain an advantage in the next bull run season.

Maybe some people say the DCA method is still relevant to use now when the price of bitcoin is high, but has not yet entered the peak of the bullish season. I stopped DCA bitcoin at the beginning of this year, because I was more focused on altcoins which had the potential to provide higher profits. The $100K target is still quite reasonable to happen, so keep holding our bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on June 15, 2024, 11:36:21 PM
Maybe some people say the DCA method is still relevant to use now when the price of bitcoin is high, but has not yet entered the peak of the bullish season. I stopped DCA bitcoin at the beginning of this year, because I was more focused on altcoins which had the potential to provide higher profits. The $100K target is still quite reasonable to happen, so keep holding our bitcoin.
It depends on what strategy you use, if you think that DCA is not efficient enough at the moment on Bitcoin, then you can ignore it and move on to an altcoin that has higher upside potential.

But when the price of bitcoin also starts to drop significantly, it will be an opportunity to start re-entering.
All Altcoin prices are also determined how Bitcoin moves, if bitcoin dumps then all altcoins will also be dumped.
Most importantly, prepare your FIAT to start buying again.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on June 16, 2024, 12:48:38 PM
Maybe some people say the DCA method is still relevant to use now when the price of bitcoin is high, but has not yet entered the peak of the bullish season. I stopped DCA bitcoin at the beginning of this year, because I was more focused on altcoins which had the potential to provide higher profits. The $100K target is still quite reasonable to happen, so keep holding our bitcoin.
It depends on what strategy you use, if you think that DCA is not efficient enough at the moment on Bitcoin, then you can ignore it and move on to an altcoin that has higher upside potential.

But when the price of bitcoin also starts to drop significantly, it will be an opportunity to start re-entering.
All Altcoin prices are also determined how Bitcoin moves, if bitcoin dumps then all altcoins will also be dumped.
Most importantly, prepare your FIAT to start buying again.
When using the DCA method and switching to Altcoins it will be very high risk. I would suggest not doing that. There is no guarantee that Altcoins will return to high prices, interest in altcoins is not as much as Bitcoin is very high. So it's better to stay focused on Bitcoin and if you want to trade altcoins then use daily trading and be careful.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 16, 2024, 04:22:14 PM
Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.
That has to be a Warren Buffett quote because that's the only person I recall as saying "rat poison squared".
I still can't believe he's still not acknowledging that Bitcoin is a real thing like Jamie Dimon (and Saylor) did. Is he waiting for the Bitcoin price to go up to $100K so that he can keep telling people that it is still a bubble?


Of course I was thinking of him, he called BTC by various names, apparently for the reason that he wanted to reinforce his statements in the eyes of everyone who reads it - because as I already wrote, a lot of people blindly believe that man even today, regardless that he was obviously wrong.

I personally do not believe that he will ever change his mind, because people like him take their stubbornness with them to the grave - and considering his age, every day could be his last.



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Even who are smart and hod bitcoin for 10 years he has been huge benefited. I think in 10 years he profited minimum 10x to 15x or more.


Ten years ago, the price of BTC was about a hundred times lower than today, so it is still much more than it seems to you. Tim Draper bought about 30 000 BTC at an auction at an average price of about $600 - and if he had them today, they would be worth x100 than when he bought them.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: kulkhan on June 16, 2024, 05:15:53 PM
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Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: kulkhan on June 16, 2024, 05:16:30 PM
Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.
That has to be a Warren Buffett quote because that's the only person I recall as saying "rat poison squared".
I still can't believe he's still not acknowledging that Bitcoin is a real thing like Jamie Dimon (and Saylor) did. Is he waiting for the Bitcoin price to go up to $100K so that he can keep telling people that it is still a bubble?


Of course I was thinking of him, he called BTC by various names, apparently for the reason that he wanted to reinforce his statements in the eyes of everyone who reads it - because as I already wrote, a lot of people blindly believe that man even today, regardless that he was obviously wrong.

I personally do not believe that he will ever change his mind, because people like him take their stubbornness with them to the grave - and considering his age, every day could be his last.



~snip~
Even who are smart and hod bitcoin for 10 years he has been huge benefited. I think in 10 years he profited minimum 10x to 15x or more.


Ten years ago, the price of BTC was about a hundred times lower than today, so it is still much more than it seems to you. Tim Draper bought about 30 000 BTC at an auction at an average price of about $600 - and if he had them today, they would be worth x100 than when he bought them.
Yes you told actual ratio. I also think ten years ago Bitcoin price was near about 100% times lower from now. Then Bitcoin price was near about $500 to $1200. Wow what significant change in 10 years.
I anyone buy now and hold for 10 years we will be huge benefited there has no doubt. Now bitcoin price is near about $67k and my prediction after ten years bitcoin price will minimum $10M. So i think who are smart he will hold some Bitcoin till then.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 17, 2024, 02:19:52 PM
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Now bitcoin price is near about $67k and my prediction after ten years bitcoin price will minimum $10M. So i think who are smart he will hold some Bitcoin till then.

What's the point in just keeping it forever? BTC is primarily a currency, but even if you don't look at it from that angle, life is too short to invest in something for several tens of years without realizing at least part of the profit. Furthermore, $10 million for 1 BTC is so much money that it turns out that practically everything that exists should be invested in BTC - it's good to be optimistic, but you should also be realistic.



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Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on June 18, 2024, 12:11:02 PM
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Now bitcoin price is near about $67k and my prediction after ten years bitcoin price will minimum $10M. So i think who are smart he will hold some Bitcoin till then.

What's the point in just keeping it forever? BTC is primarily a currency, but even if you don't look at it from that angle, life is too short to invest in something for several tens of years without realizing at least part of the profit. Furthermore, $10 million for 1 BTC is so much money that it turns out that practically everything that exists should be invested in BTC - it's good to be optimistic, but you should also be realistic.



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saving forever is if we have free money and really believe bitcoin will last forever. if I don't, I just hold bitcoin for a 4 year cycle. Buy during bearish season and hold until bullish season. because we don't know what will happen to bitcoin in 5 years.  Everyone has considerations, the only realistic thing at the moment is hold for next year.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on June 27, 2024, 11:49:11 AM
A bitcoin wallet that has been dormant since 2018 has transferred 8,000 BTC ($535 million) to the Binance exchange.  The coins were bought at the bottom of the bear cycle in 2018 at a rate of $3800. In total, more than $30 million was spent.

P.S. This situation can be referred to the title of this topic. I have no idea how it was possible to hold assets for such a long time. Do you think this wallet address is owned by market manipulators?  :o

(https://i.ibb.co/gt33k8N/image.png)
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 27, 2024, 03:22:10 PM
@NikeFit_7777, why is it strange that coins from 2018 moved, even on the exchange - when we have situations where coins from 2009 and 2010 move regularly even some people though they have been lost a long time ago? I have some coins from 2014 that I have never sold, but I didn't sell them just because I didn't need it.

Whoever is the real owner can be really satisfied with the profit he can make if he realizes the sale, but I'm sure that person or maybe the company was rich even before they invested in BTC - $30 million is not a small amount of money.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: MUGNIA on June 27, 2024, 04:06:48 PM
10 years ago I didn't know what Bitcoin was until at the end of 2018 I found out what crypto was, and I am grateful that I can enjoy victory in 2021 and to face 2025 I hope to feel like 2021, even though the trend is different but I am still optimistic that I can always produce from crypto itself
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Makus on June 27, 2024, 08:36:51 PM
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Now bitcoin price is near about $67k and my prediction after ten years bitcoin price will minimum $10M. So i think who are smart he will hold some Bitcoin till then.

What's the point in just keeping it forever? BTC is primarily a currency, but even if you don't look at it from that angle, life is too short to invest in something for several tens of years without realizing at least part of the profit. Furthermore, $10 million for 1 BTC is so much money that it turns out that practically everything that exists should be invested in BTC - it's good to be optimistic, but you should also be realistic.



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While holding Bitcoin it's important we create plans for our Bitcoin usage. Either we spend it after a certain amount has been accumulated or we decide to pass it on to the next generation. I understand Bitcoin is just a currency to be spent on buying and selling using p2p but then after lots of persons came to realise that it actually profitable for investment that's why we keep holding. It's not wrong to sell or trade your coin, what you do with it doesn't concern anybody so it's a personal choice and majority of person would want to hold than using Bitcoin for daily transactions. The fee and mempool congestion is another factor to be considered when taking Bitcoin as a mere currency for trading, that can also be added up to the reasons why Bitcoin is considered for investment and not short term traders. Bitcoin 10 years ago is nothing compared to where it is today, and wouldn't want to miss any single moment without preparing for the next 10 years to come with my Bitcoin accumulation.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 28, 2024, 01:56:17 AM
While holding Bitcoin it's important we create plans for our Bitcoin usage. Either we spend it after a certain amount has been accumulated or we decide to pass it on to the next generation. I understand Bitcoin is just a currency to be spent on buying and selling using p2p but then after lots of persons came to realise that it actually profitable for investment that's why we keep holding. It's not wrong to sell or trade your coin, what you do with it doesn't concern anybody so it's a personal choice and majority of person would want to hold than using Bitcoin for daily transactions. The fee and mempool congestion is another factor to be considered when taking Bitcoin as a mere currency for trading, that can also be added up to the reasons why Bitcoin is considered for investment and not short term traders. Bitcoin 10 years ago is nothing compared to where it is today, and wouldn't want to miss any single moment without preparing for the next 10 years to come with my Bitcoin accumulation.

People's views on BTC are different and do not depend on each other: some see BTC as an internet currency, some see BTC as digital gold, some see BTC as an asset to hold for the long term, and some see BTC as just a financial instrument for trading to make profits. I think that at each point in time, the value of BTC is better recognized, and in the future, BTC may become the base currency for fiat.

I wish you will be persistent in proposing and implementing investment strategies for BTC in the next 10 years. I believe that we will witness the change of the global financial system and BTC becoming a useful tool owned by governments to support or protect the economy.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Rubel007 on June 28, 2024, 05:46:26 AM
Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.
That has to be a Warren Buffett quote because that's the only person I recall as saying "rat poison squared".
I still can't believe he's still not acknowledging that Bitcoin is a real thing like Jamie Dimon (and Saylor) did. Is he waiting for the Bitcoin price to go up to $100K so that he can keep telling people that it is still a bubble?


Of course I was thinking of him, he called BTC by various names, apparently for the reason that he wanted to reinforce his statements in the eyes of everyone who reads it - because as I already wrote, a lot of people blindly believe that man even today, regardless that he was obviously wrong.

I personally do not believe that he will ever change his mind, because people like him take their stubbornness with them to the grave - and considering his age, every day could be his last.



~snip~
Even who are smart and hod bitcoin for 10 years he has been huge benefited. I think in 10 years he profited minimum 10x to 15x or more.


Ten years ago, the price of BTC was about a hundred times lower than today, so it is still much more than it seems to you. Tim Draper bought about 30 000 BTC at an auction at an average price of about $600 - and if he had them today, they would be worth x100 than when he bought them.
Yes you told actual ratio. I also think ten years ago Bitcoin price was near about 100% times lower from now. Then Bitcoin price was near about $500 to $1200. Wow what significant change in 10 years.
I anyone buy now and hold for 10 years we will be huge benefited there has no doubt. Now bitcoin price is near about $67k and my prediction after ten years bitcoin price will minimum $10M. So i think who are smart he will hold some Bitcoin till then.
When I came to know about Bitcoin, each Bitcoin was worth about 3000 dollars but I didn't have the confidence to invest in Bitcoin at that moment. Most of us had the ability to invest 3 thousand dollars but could not invest due to lack of confidence. Everyone would have benefited from the position Bitcoin is in today, everyone would have been able to make a big change in their financial life. But care must be taken to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bitcoin will become more expensive in future. Those who predict that possibility and hold bitcoin obviously they will be considered real smart.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on June 28, 2024, 01:03:21 PM
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I wish you will be persistent in proposing and implementing investment strategies for BTC in the next 10 years. I believe that we will witness the change of the global financial system and BTC becoming a useful tool owned by governments to support or protect the economy.


I'm not that optimistic, because what Bitcoin represents is diametrically opposed to what almost all governments of the world advocate - which is complete centralization for the purpose of absolute control of people in every segment of their lives. After all, you can't protect the economy with anything as volatile as BTC - and if "they" somehow managed to control that volatility, then BTC would no longer be what it should be.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Strongkored on June 28, 2024, 01:27:55 PM
I think I knew about Bitcoin more than 10 years ago, but don't remember exactly when, it's just that if I could have the belief, patience and also the courage to keep it longer then it would give me more than I ever imagined.

But it's never too late, if you didn't know about Bitcoin ten years ago because only found out about it now, then in the next 10 years there could be much bigger things happening to Bitcoin than everyone predicted, but people still have to pay attention to every risk, that is why following every Bitcoin development is very important if people want to be successful here.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on June 28, 2024, 05:24:20 PM
         -    Well, he was not wrong in his prediction, and now it is around 60 000 dollars more than one bitcoin. Maybe the woman who interviewed him today is all sorry for the prediction; she said she wished she had believed Tim Draper.

I noticed in the woman's smile that she doubted Tim Draper's prediction, and many people before didn't believe in the Bitcoin price that it could reach. But now the people who doubted bitcoin before are now tripping over how to have it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 28, 2024, 08:49:55 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)
I completely agree with all that you said, it's all true to be honest, less successful people still have zeal to become very successful, and for this reason, they are out there looking for opportunities that will possibly get them to their next level of success.
Meanwhile, the already successful people always feel like they have arrived at their busstop.They feel that nothing else out there works except for the things they are into, they often feel that no new technology will be successful any more aside the ones that have been which they are already familiar with, and for this reasons, it's actually a bad idea to listen to such people.

Personally, it's the same for me just as you have said it, I listen and learn from those who are less successful and striving to get to the top, this ones are always open minded to new inventions and opportunities, they are the best people to learn from.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JunaidAzizi on June 28, 2024, 09:25:52 PM
In today's time where people have easy access to the internet and are more aware of the crypto world than compared to 10 years ago, still people can't trust Bitcoin and have many trust issues if you talk to people about investing in Bitcoin they clearly say that don't waste your time on Bitcoin then imagine 10 years ago where there is less awareness among people how they can come to Bitcoin. This is a blessing that at the time few people trusted Bitcoin and now we have such a great and potential asset.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on June 28, 2024, 09:27:10 PM
It depends on what strategy you use, if you think that DCA is not efficient enough at the moment on Bitcoin, then you can ignore it and move on to an altcoin that has higher upside potential.

But when the price of bitcoin also starts to drop significantly, it will be an opportunity to start re-entering.
All Altcoin prices are also determined how Bitcoin moves, if bitcoin dumps then all altcoins will also be dumped.
Most importantly, prepare your FIAT to start buying again.

Actually no one can force another person and if a person thinks that the DCA method is not good for him and he cannot bear the buying process of Bitcoin again and again then there is no need to put yourself in trouble and invest the amount which you can easily afford.

Altcoins profit is also good but it is not guaranteed so it depends on your decision but altcoins will put you in a stressful situation while Bitcoin provides you profit if you have tolerance. Accumulation of money should be started at an early age and when your learning period ends then do investment in profitable coins during profitable conditions and continue without worrying about the dip.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 28, 2024, 10:22:33 PM
I was one of the not smart ones, but it happens and instead of just regretting it, its better to just keep on trying to do better. I will also suggest people that just because you missed bitcoin, do not try to join some other silly token that says "you missed bitcoin, don't miss this one", because that's a marketing scheme and most likely that one will not be anything like bitcoin at all. Reality is that these days things that go up a lot, start at a lot too, and that means nothing goes from just a few cents or dollars into tens of thousands of dollars like bitcoin did, hence do not rush into any of them ever.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bayu7adi on June 29, 2024, 08:16:57 AM
In today's time where people have easy access to the internet and are more aware of the crypto world than compared to 10 years ago, still people can't trust Bitcoin and have many trust issues if you talk to people about investing in Bitcoin they clearly say that don't waste your time on Bitcoin then imagine 10 years ago where there is less awareness among people how they can come to Bitcoin. This is a blessing that at the time few people trusted Bitcoin and now we have such a great and potential asset.
Bringing up past predictions, even if Bitcoin is currently worth zero, these predictions will not make the person look smart... I'm sure this is like the cartoon The Simpson which is quite famous for its predictions.... what you need to know is that , many predictions were made by The Simpson, but only a small part of them looked like reality and amazed many people. Predictions that don't come true are always ignored and don't reduce the rating of the future guessing cartoon.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on June 29, 2024, 11:56:07 AM
In today's time where people have easy access to the internet and are more aware of the crypto world than compared to 10 years ago, still people can't trust Bitcoin and have many trust issues if you talk to people about investing in Bitcoin they clearly say that don't waste your time on Bitcoin then imagine 10 years ago where there is less awareness among people how they can come to Bitcoin. This is a blessing that at the time few people trusted Bitcoin and now we have such a great and potential asset.
Bringing up past predictions, even if Bitcoin is currently worth zero, these predictions will not make the person look smart... I'm sure this is like the cartoon The Simpson which is quite famous for its predictions.... what you need to know is that , many predictions were made by The Simpson, but only a small part of them looked like reality and amazed many people. Predictions that don't come true are always ignored and don't reduce the rating of the future guessing cartoon.
Isn't it true that no one can predict accurately, because the character of bitcoin is always volatile and the factors that determine prices are demand and supply. Everyone can predict and can have confidence in their decisions, but the market will play its role as a determinant of price increases or decreases.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Obari on June 29, 2024, 12:08:59 PM
The truth is that, what works for one might not work for the other and that’s to say, that as at then you were fortunate to listen and follow the path of bitcoin and glory it was great and sole wither persons like myself, who found bitcoin when everything seemed like a scam don’t also have to regret because everything was some sort of lessons and slot of persons who also knows and believes in bitcoin didn’t even gain from this whole bill run and you also don’t have to also blame them because everything definitely works for good
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on June 29, 2024, 12:31:21 PM
The truth is that, what works for one might not work for the other and that’s to say, that as at then you were fortunate to listen and follow the path of bitcoin and glory it was great and sole wither persons like myself, who found bitcoin when everything seemed like a scam don’t also have to regret because everything was some sort of lessons and slot of persons who also knows and believes in bitcoin didn’t even gain from this whole bill run and you also don’t have to also blame them because everything definitely works for good
Sincerely mostly people weren't smart enough to understand that bitcoin was so real at then but due to ignorant and lack of knowledge they never invested, hence where seeing it as scam but after several years they still found out that bitcoin still moving stronger and greatly without any compelling reason to pull it down, even the so called government tried all they could to have to control over it but due to it decentralized nature makes it impossible for them to control it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on June 30, 2024, 07:35:06 PM
The truth is that, what works for one might not work for the other and that’s to say, that as at then you were fortunate to listen and follow the path of bitcoin and glory it was great and sole wither persons like myself, who found bitcoin when everything seemed like a scam don’t also have to regret because everything was some sort of lessons and slot of persons who also knows and believes in bitcoin didn’t even gain from this whole bill run and you also don’t have to also blame them because everything definitely works for good
Sincerely mostly people weren't smart enough to understand that bitcoin was so real at then but due to ignorant and lack of knowledge they never invested, hence where seeing it as scam but after several years they still found out that bitcoin still moving stronger and greatly without any compelling reason to pull it down, even the so called government tried all they could to have to control over it but due to it decentralized nature makes it impossible for them to control it.
Yes, at the beginning of Bitcoin, many people were launched and considered it a fraud, because of the lack of knowledge. I was previously doubtful with Bitcoin, but after trying to invest in Bitcoin and enjoy the results, I finally invested in Bitcoin for more than 7 years. This is a process, and many experiences that occur even at that time the government blocked Bitcpoin in several countries, but eventually they allowed Bitcoin as an investment.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on June 30, 2024, 08:25:12 PM
Sincerely mostly people weren't smart enough to understand that bitcoin was so real at then but due to ignorant and lack of knowledge they never invested, hence where seeing it as scam but after several years they still found out that bitcoin still moving stronger and greatly without any compelling reason to pull it down, even the so called government tried all they could to have to control over it but due to it decentralized nature makes it impossible for them to control it.
Yes, at the beginning of Bitcoin, many people were launched and considered it a fraud, because of the lack of knowledge. I was previously doubtful with Bitcoin, but after trying to invest in Bitcoin and enjoy the results, I finally invested in Bitcoin for more than 7 years. This is a process, and many experiences that occur even at that time the government blocked Bitcpoin in several countries, but eventually they allowed Bitcoin as an investment.
It is good to see that you venture the market on time and made investment although not all of those who invested at 7 years ago still holds their bitcoin till date. Many people who invested then were tempted by the price when bitcoin create new  ATH and I am shock to see you still hold. It was quite unfortunately I didn't start then and I am not luck to have bought when it was too cheap far way back to 2015 to 2018.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Pastaral on June 30, 2024, 08:35:21 PM
I think there are a lot of people who have no idea what they are criticizing.There are many people who invested in this bitcoin, they sold it at a very low price. If it had held until now, it would have owned a large amount of money.There are many things in life where you have to lean, if so, then you have to be fully prepared to take risks.Again, many people do not understand this investment yet want to invest.They are the ones who do not like to take risks.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on June 30, 2024, 09:47:07 PM
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It was quite unfortunately I didn't start then and I am not luck to have bought when it was too cheap far way back to 2015 to 2018.
2015-2018 was the time when Bitcoin started to grow, and then it was very volatile because I was in those years.
Had bought quite a lot and finally gave up when selling Bitcoin as ATH 2018 at $17k, it was already a very high price in my opinion at that time.

But looking at now, the price of $17k will never be seen again.
Regret it or not, certainly not because it was part of my journey in crypto and is a success story to date.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on July 01, 2024, 08:12:34 PM
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It was quite unfortunately I didn't start then and I am not luck to have bought when it was too cheap far way back to 2015 to 2018.
2015-2018 was the time when Bitcoin started to grow, and then it was very volatile because I was in those years.
Had bought quite a lot and finally gave up when selling Bitcoin as ATH 2018 at $17k, it was already a very high price in my opinion at that time.

But looking at now, the price of $17k will never be seen again.
Regret it or not, certainly not because it was part of my journey in crypto and is a success story to date.
Exactly, the more people talk about Bitcoin, the more it makes the price of Bitcoin very expensive. The beginning of the Bitcoin price movement was around 2015. After that, with a very short time in 2021, it could reach the latest ATH and currently 2024 is also printing its newest ATH. This shows that Bitcoin has a bright future.

No one will let Bitcoin price fall to $17k. It might take really bad news to cause whales to sell Bitcoin cheaply and market conditions go haywire. Everything collapsed and it seemed like chaos like that wouldn't happen until the end of the world.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Gurujebs on July 01, 2024, 08:41:24 PM
The truth is that, what works for one might not work for the other and that’s to say, that as at then you were fortunate to listen and follow the path of bitcoin and glory it was great and sole wither persons like myself, who found bitcoin when everything seemed like a scam don’t also have to regret because everything was some sort of lessons and slot of persons who also knows and believes in bitcoin didn’t even gain from this whole bill run and you also don’t have to also blame them because everything definitely works for good

Anytime people talks about how thrill they would have been if they have had the opportunity to buy Bitcoin but the truth is that the price of Bitcoin didn't just jump from $100 to $62k, it has had many all time all high in the past and considering how it was the new thing to make money, many people would be quick to sell their Bitcoin the moment it hit the highs of $10k back then.

You might not be lucky then but you are alive today and that is a thing to give glory about. It's never late to buy Bitcoin, kindly buy the amount you know you can afford to buy according to your budget, nobody knows what tomorrow price will be because even today, only few people were optimistic about this high price we have seen today.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 01, 2024, 09:16:57 PM
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It was quite unfortunately I didn't start then and I am not luck to have bought when it was too cheap far way back to 2015 to 2018.
2015-2018 was the time when Bitcoin started to grow, and then it was very volatile because I was in those years.
Had bought quite a lot and finally gave up when selling Bitcoin as ATH 2018 at $17k, it was already a very high price in my opinion at that time.

But looking at now, the price of $17k will never be seen again.
Regret it or not, certainly not because it was part of my journey in crypto and is a success story to date.
Exactly, the more people talk about Bitcoin, the more it makes the price of Bitcoin very expensive. The beginning of the Bitcoin price movement was around 2015. After that, with a very short time in 2021, it could reach the latest ATH and currently 2024 is also printing its newest ATH. This shows that Bitcoin has a bright future.

No one will let Bitcoin price fall to $17k. It might take really bad news to cause whales to sell Bitcoin cheaply and market conditions go haywire. Everything collapsed and it seemed like chaos like that wouldn't happen until the end of the world.
Like I do say anything is still possible in crypto space even though we think so strong that nothing can't happen to bitcoin but still negative news could hit up the market and the movement turns immediately without control, although I know that people are so relaxed that since bitcoin has spent 15+ years and nothing has altered it so make holders to have this strong belief that it has come to stay and of course bitcoin has come to stay and nothing shall make it lose its value even the government has tried their possible best to fold it up but still didn't succeed instead their targets are now channelled to centralized exchange where they could start regulating everything within their power to impose taxation on crypto traders.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on July 02, 2024, 07:53:24 PM
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No one will let Bitcoin price fall to $17k. It might take really bad news to cause whales to sell Bitcoin cheaply and market conditions go haywire. Everything collapsed and it seemed like chaos like that wouldn't happen until the end of the world.
I don't know, anything can happen in crypto in just a flash.
It could suddenly rise to $100k in the near future or even drop to a base price that was never predicted.

Bitcoin is highly volatile and influenced by many factors.
Whales will probably play with market prices and the psychology of small traders.
Now we just need to focus on adding bitcoin to get ready to hit the new ATH again.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 02, 2024, 08:24:29 PM
         -    Well, he was not wrong in his prediction, and now it is around 60 000 dollars more than one bitcoin. Maybe the woman who interviewed him today is all sorry for the prediction; she said she wished she had believed Tim Draper.

I noticed in the woman's smile that she doubted Tim Draper's prediction, and many people before didn't believe in the Bitcoin price that it could reach. But now the people who doubted bitcoin before are now tripping over how to have it.
You wouldn't really blame the woman or anyone else for not believing in TIm or those who had disbelief in the potentiality of bitcoin.
Way back then, Bitcoin was merely a relatively new technology, unlike the world had ever seen before, so it sure would've taken a lot more than just someone telling you Bitcoin had so much potential for you to believe it, I'm pretty sure even some of those who held Bitcoin at its earliest stage when it was almost worthless didn't even believe in the vision.
That's why not all early investors of Bitcoin can claim to be proud of their current holding because some sold at a relatively low price which they believed was the peak or enough profits for them.

Just imagine the cautionary tale of the man who bought 2 pizzas for over 10,000 BTC, if he had seen the vision, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have initiated such a transaction, although this story is remembered and celebrated every year as the first bitcoin transaction in exchange for actual goods, and to some it may be a good thing to talk about,but to the person directly involved, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be saying the same thing right now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on July 03, 2024, 08:52:32 AM
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No one will let Bitcoin price fall to $17k. It might take really bad news to cause whales to sell Bitcoin cheaply and market conditions go haywire. Everything collapsed and it seemed like chaos like that wouldn't happen until the end of the world.
I don't know, anything can happen in crypto in just a flash.
It could suddenly rise to $100k in the near future or even drop to a base price that was never predicted.

Bitcoin is highly volatile and influenced by many factors.
Whales will probably play with market prices and the psychology of small traders.
Now we just need to focus on adding bitcoin to get ready to hit the new ATH again.
A price of 17k seems unlikely to happen this year and next year, even though the price of bitcoin is very volatile. Whales will continue to play here and maintain the price above 55K, that's in my opinion, if it drops to $17K, it's best to prepare USD and buy as much as possible.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 03, 2024, 09:17:44 AM
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No one will let Bitcoin price fall to $17k. It might take really bad news to cause whales to sell Bitcoin cheaply and market conditions go haywire. Everything collapsed and it seemed like chaos like that wouldn't happen until the end of the world.
I don't know, anything can happen in crypto in just a flash.
It could suddenly rise to $100k in the near future or even drop to a base price that was never predicted.

Bitcoin is highly volatile and influenced by many factors.
Whales will probably play with market prices and the psychology of small traders.
Now we just need to focus on adding bitcoin to get ready to hit the new ATH again.
A price of 17k seems unlikely to happen this year and next year, even though the price of bitcoin is very volatile. Whales will continue to play here and maintain the price above 55K, that's in my opinion, if it drops to $17K, it's best to prepare USD and buy as much as possible.
There are so many predictions about Bitcoin price this year and none of it says there's a possibility of Bitcoin going even lower than 20k. So that means the possibility of Bitcoin  dropping to 17k this year is totally uncertain.

Although according to Techopedia's Bitcoin prediction for 2024, the lowest Bitcoin can go is around 38k, and they also predicted the average price to be around 60k and the highest to be around 85k.

While there's a possibility of this prediction being true, it's also important to note that cryptocurrency market is very volatile and unpredictable, so it's important to always do DYOR before making any investment or taking any financial decisions.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on July 04, 2024, 06:54:29 PM
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Although according to Techopedia's Bitcoin prediction for 2024, the lowest Bitcoin can go is around 38k, and they also predicted the average price to be around 60k and the highest to be around 85k.
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$38k is a pretty low price, but looking at the current price that breaks through the $56k price is a pretty deep drop.
Bitcoin is really under pressure to keep falling, but you must also know that after this decline occurs there will be a crazier rise so that it will reach a new ATH.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on July 04, 2024, 07:45:22 PM
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Although according to Techopedia's Bitcoin prediction for 2024, the lowest Bitcoin can go is around 38k, and they also predicted the average price to be around 60k and the highest to be around 85k.
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$38k is a pretty low price, but looking at the current price that breaks through the $56k price is a pretty deep drop.
Bitcoin is really under pressure to keep falling, but you must also know that after this decline occurs there will be a crazier rise so that it will reach a new ATH.
I agree with your opinion, after a sharp decline the price of bitcoin will rise and reach a new ATH, this is just a correction and maybe very deep. But it is still normal, because Bitcoin will experience a decline after the halving and will rise again and touch a new ATH. We as investors who may have experienced several 4 year cycles see that this is something that is normal, because usually whales always play with market prices.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on July 13, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
There are so many predictions about Bitcoin price this year and none of it says there's a possibility of Bitcoin going even lower than 20k. So that means the possibility of Bitcoin  dropping to 17k this year is totally uncertain.
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The fact that no one has written somewhere does not mean that it is not possible, but in the end it is all speculation, many of which are very likely malicious in order to direct the market in a certain direction. Right now the market is upset with some news that in itself is not nearly as apocalyptic, but the average BTC investor does not understand that 50 000 BTC in the market is not something that represents a problem, considering that the daily volume every day is several times higher than $3 billion how much those coins were worth at one point.

In the long run, all this means nothing except small obstacles on the way that can be easily overcome.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 13, 2024, 04:30:23 PM
There are so many predictions about Bitcoin price this year and none of it says there's a possibility of Bitcoin going even lower than 20k. So that means the possibility of Bitcoin  dropping to 17k this year is totally uncertain.
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The fact that no one has written somewhere does not mean that it is not possible, but in the end it is all speculation, many of which are very likely malicious in order to direct the market in a certain direction. Right now the market is upset with some news that in itself is not nearly as apocalyptic, but the average BTC investor does not understand that 50 000 BTC in the market is not something that represents a problem, considering that the daily volume every day is several times higher than $3 billion how much those coins were worth at one point.

In the long run, all this means nothing except small obstacles on the way that can be easily overcome.

I couldn't agree more! I think you rightly said it and your observation was quite apt. One must accept the fact that the crypto market is intrinsically unstable and vulnerable to manipulation through conducted rumors and unfounded hype. But as you rightly noted, in the bigger picture these are just barriers that slow down progress and are not actual hindrances at all.

Long-term thinking and no panic should become the guiding principle for investors, who should not be swayed by emotions and should consider investments in bitcoin as long-term investments. That is why, being quite realistic, it is crucial to keep a levelled head and stay focused and informed about possible fluctuations.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 13, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
There are so many possibilities and choices that a person could have made. Just like the movie dark matter where on every choice his timeline created for that choice. Same way if you have adopted BTC earlier the choices will be different. You could have done better but who knows maybe if you had adopted it earlier you could have done worse even. Some people adopt things on the basis of their guts and think that it's enough to make them trust their choices.

While some are in uncertain even if they are shown the right path by the right people they will say no it's not right. They will say I am not sure to follow this path. Choices should be made on proper and bold moves. I adopted BTC late but thank god I adopted it at last because adopting it is better than adopting it late.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JunaidAzizi on July 13, 2024, 08:36:41 PM
There are so many possibilities and choices that a person could have made. Just like the movie dark matter where on every choice his timeline created for that choice. Same way if you have adopted BTC earlier the choices will be different. You could have done better but who knows maybe if you had adopted it earlier you could have done worse even. Some people adopt things on the basis of their guts and think that it's enough to make them trust their choices.

While some are in uncertain even if they are shown the right path by the right people they will say no it's not right. They will say I am not sure to follow this path. Choices should be made on proper and bold moves. I adopted BTC late but thank god I adopted it at last because adopting it is better than adopting it late.
Human nature is rational; they can reject or accept things based on their understanding levels. If something looks suspicious, they won't go there, and if something looks good, they go there without any hesitation. For example, investing in real estate business: some will go there, and some will not. If others try their best to explain how profitable it is, but if they don't understand, they will ignore it. The same case occurs with Bitcoin. Some people understand Bitcoin and started buying it, while some people reject Bitcoin and laugh at others, saying they are wasting their money because they don't understand what Bitcoin is, how it works, and its potential to change their destiny. So, those people who bought at that time are the happiest people now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on July 14, 2024, 07:57:06 AM
There are so many possibilities and choices that a person could have made. Just like the movie dark matter where on every choice his timeline created for that choice. Same way if you have adopted BTC earlier the choices will be different. You could have done better but who knows maybe if you had adopted it earlier you could have done worse even. Some people adopt things on the basis of their guts and think that it's enough to make them trust their choices.

While some are in uncertain even if they are shown the right path by the right people they will say no it's not right. They will say I am not sure to follow this path. Choices should be made on proper and bold moves. I adopted BTC late but thank god I adopted it at last because adopting it is better than adopting it late.
Human nature is rational; they can reject or accept things based on their understanding levels. If something looks suspicious, they won't go there, and if something looks good, they go there without any hesitation. For example, investing in real estate business: some will go there, and some will not. If others try their best to explain how profitable it is, but if they don't understand, they will ignore it. The same case occurs with Bitcoin. Some people understand Bitcoin and started buying it, while some people reject Bitcoin and laugh at others, saying they are wasting their money because they don't understand what Bitcoin is, how it works, and its potential to change their destiny. So, those people who bought at that time are the happiest people now.
Not many people understand the benefits obtained from Bitcoin well. But for those who already understand Bitcoin price movements, it will be easy to make a profit as you say. When Bitcoin was first launched, many people underestimated its development. But when the price of Bitcoin is this expensive, more and more people are curious and get into Bitcoin, but it is too late because the current price of Bitcoin is too expensive to buy.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on July 14, 2024, 08:04:58 AM
@NikeFit_7777, why is it strange that coins from 2018 moved, even on the exchange - when we have situations where coins from 2009 and 2010 move regularly even some people though they have been lost a long time ago? I have some coins from 2014 that I have never sold, but I didn't sell them just because I didn't need it.

Whoever is the real owner can be really satisfied with the profit he can make if he realizes the sale, but I'm sure that person or maybe the company was rich even before they invested in BTC - $30 million is not a small amount of money.
Yes, I don't argue that it is possible that a person has kept accumulated btc (or other cryptocurrency, for years) - but we should not exclude the factor that it can be just a manipulator. It's not always as obvious as it may seem to you and me.

P.S. Again, I am not imposing my thoughts - just writing what I personally think. If you think otherwise = you have every right to do so.  ???
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on July 14, 2024, 02:47:35 PM
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Long-term thinking and no panic should become the guiding principle for investors, who should not be swayed by emotions and should consider investments in bitcoin as long-term investments. That is why, being quite realistic, it is crucial to keep a levelled head and stay focused and informed about possible fluctuations.


The problem may be that the crypto market is mostly made up of people who are inexperienced and prone to panic. Such people will panic already when they see that they have "lost" 5%, and at 10% they start mass selling to protect themselves from an even bigger loss - even though the price of BTC can stabilize in a very short time.

If you ask me personally, it all sometimes looks like too many children are playing with fire, and then something has to burn, right?

Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 14, 2024, 07:45:21 PM
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Long-term thinking and no panic should become the guiding principle for investors, who should not be swayed by emotions and should consider investments in bitcoin as long-term investments. That is why, being quite realistic, it is crucial to keep a levelled head and stay focused and informed about possible fluctuations.


The problem may be that the crypto market is mostly made up of people who are inexperienced and prone to panic. Such people will panic already when they see that they have "lost" 5%, and at 10% they start mass selling to protect themselves from an even bigger loss - even though the price of BTC can stabilize in a very short time.

If you ask me personally, it all sometimes looks like too many children are playing with fire, and then something has to burn, right?
Sometimes your can't really blame these inexperienced and naive children for their actions and reactions towards market fluctuations.
Some/most of these people delve into the crypto space without first doing their deligence and also due to misinformation and being misguided by the sources from which they gained their informations.

Some of them were told that Bitcoin investment were all bed of roses and a safe haven where investors can come to and make maximum profits without losses. While this is half-truth, they fail to realize that only those who persevere are able to reap from these underlying benefits in Bitcoin investment.

There are rules, techniques, dos and don'ts one needs to adhere and observe and adults to do that would incur unimaginable losses. Most of these inexperienced investors or should I say gamblers are only considering Bitcoin for its short-term gains, and so when there are short-term fluctuations, they panic and end up taking drastic actions that'll end up affecting their investments.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on July 14, 2024, 09:20:29 PM
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We as investors who may have experienced several 4 year cycles see that this is something that is normal, because usually whales always play with market prices.
Whales always have a way to play the market, they always aim to multiply their profits by taking advantage of the unstable market conditions and then the price drops too drastically, there will be many beginner investors who panic and sell cheaply.

Those who have never gone through a once-in-a-4-year cycle with extreme declines will simply give up on this bear market, but for me this is normal and there is no need to panic.

Now it is only necessary to make a purchase when the price is very cheap, thinking like a whale without going against the trend they are making.
When the bulls arrive, we will get more profits as long as we can take advantage of this moment of decline.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: nakamura12 on July 14, 2024, 09:47:56 PM
Bitcoin's price is really unpredictable. People should not let others to judge what a person wants either they invest in crypto or not. I think the problem is not in crypto but from those people who did not believe in bitcoin that's why they laugh at someone who predict something in bitcoin like the one who predicted that bitcoin will be $10000 in the next 3 years. Let's put it this way where the smart ones are the ones who believe in bitcoin and those who are not smart are the ones who didn't believe in bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JunaidAzizi on July 14, 2024, 09:50:09 PM
Not many people understand the benefits obtained from Bitcoin well. But for those who already understand Bitcoin price movements, it will be easy to make a profit as you say. When Bitcoin was first launched, many people underestimated its development. But when the price of Bitcoin is this expensive, more and more people are curious and get into Bitcoin, but it is too late because the current price of Bitcoin is too expensive to buy.
In this digital and fast-paced era, I still see many people who are not ready to trust Bitcoin. In their minds, Bitcoin will steal your income; it's nothing but a scammy coin. I can't understand how their minds were trained or brainwashed as they did not listen and won't read to accept the reality that Bitcoin is now the most trusted currency which supports your backbone and won't let you down on your knees. We know Bitcoin's price will never stop and will move upward with time, so I still want them to accept Bitcoin and make some investment before it's too late because in the coming time, it will be very hard to invest.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SamReomo on July 14, 2024, 09:55:04 PM
Bitcoin's price is really unpredictable.
It's somewhat predictable if you're part of the market since 2016 or earlier because most of those people who invested in Bitcoin already predicted that one day Bitcoin will cross $17k and form a new ATH and then others who saw ATH of around $69k predicted that Bitcoin will cross that value and form a new ATH and that thing happened a few months ago. The ones who believe in Bitcoin often come with positive predictions and to be honest, most of those predictions happen in actual.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on July 14, 2024, 11:28:59 PM
This is all about those who were able and eager of taking risk, because that same 10 years back, we have many other investments as well in which people are promoting online that we should invest and same comes with many altcoins as well in cryptocurrency, so.e invested and make profit while some make losses, but bitcoin is such an investment we will always be profitable in it and those who took their time in taking the risk for it now enjoys the benefits.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on July 15, 2024, 06:40:06 AM
This is all about those who were able and eager of taking risk, because that same 10 years back, we have many other investments as well in which people are promoting online that we should invest and same comes with many altcoins as well in cryptocurrency, so.e invested and make profit while some make losses, but bitcoin is such an investment we will always be profitable in it and those who took their time in taking the risk for it now enjoys the benefits.
10 years ago bitcoin was not yet well known and there was a lot of negative news about bitcoin which made people worried about investing in bitcoin. At that time I also didn't dare to take a big risk, just buying a little BTC, but sold it when it went up. If we had a lot of free funds, maybe we would have bought large amounts of bitcoin 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: giammangiato on July 16, 2024, 03:58:06 PM
10 years ago bitcoin was not yet well known and there was a lot of negative news about bitcoin which made people worried about investing in bitcoin. At that time I also didn't dare to take a big risk, just buying a little BTC, but sold it when it went up. If we had a lot of free funds, maybe we would have bought large amounts of bitcoin 10 years ago.
Thats right, investing in bitcoin 10 years ago could have been done if you were a visionary who understood the direction of bitcoin or a madman who loves risk and obviously had luck in betting on the right horse.  I am not saying this out of envy, in life you also need luck, sometimes the train knocks on your door and you dont open it, other times you understand it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on July 16, 2024, 05:23:51 PM
10 years ago bitcoin was not yet well known and there was a lot of negative news about bitcoin which made people worried about investing in bitcoin. At that time I also didn't dare to take a big risk, just buying a little BTC, but sold it when it went up. If we had a lot of free funds, maybe we would have bought large amounts of bitcoin 10 years ago.
Thats right, investing in bitcoin 10 years ago could have been done if you were a visionary who understood the direction of bitcoin or a madman who loves risk and obviously had luck in betting on the right horse.  I am not saying this out of envy, in life you also need luck, sometimes the train knocks on your door and you dont open it, other times you understand it.
lucky for them, a visionary who understood the direction of bitcoin, because they have invested in bitcoin and got big profits if they had invested in bitcoin 10 years ago, they are truly lucky people. Maybe we are not jealous, but regret must be in our hearts, why didn't we do it first.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: giammangiato on July 17, 2024, 05:58:05 PM
lucky for them, a visionary who understood the direction of bitcoin, because they have invested in bitcoin and got big profits if they had invested in bitcoin 10 years ago, they are truly lucky people. Maybe we are not jealous, but regret must be in our hearts, why didn't we do it first.
But me shouldnt be jealous at all, I am not jealous.  It was just to point out that life is often a matter of luck, being in the right place at the right time.  Clearly you must also have the intuition to take this fortune immediately and not let it pass away. Not easy at all, but luck is needed. I hope have some luck :D in future.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on July 18, 2024, 04:54:57 PM
10 years ago bitcoin was not yet well known and there was a lot of negative news about bitcoin which made people worried about investing in bitcoin. At that time I also didn't dare to take a big risk, just buying a little BTC, but sold it when it went up. If we had a lot of free funds, maybe we would have bought large amounts of bitcoin 10 years ago.

People knew about BTC back then, but I don't think they were too interested in it because the price was too low compared to today, and besides, if you were one of those who listened to what people like Buffett said (and he is rich and influential man) then you must have been completely discouraged when it came to BTC.

There are negative news even today, every now and then someone writes an article that BTC is dead (for who knows how many times), but people have seen that Bitcoin has the potential to increase its price many times and that attracts them the most.

Of course, some people appreciate BTC as a currency, especially in countries where access to banks is difficult, or where corruption is so widespread that you simply cannot trust anyone with your money.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: UNIVERSE on July 18, 2024, 05:30:05 PM
10 years ago bitcoin was not yet well known and there was a lot of negative news about bitcoin which made people worried about investing in bitcoin. At that time I also didn't dare to take a big risk, just buying a little BTC, but sold it when it went up. If we had a lot of free funds, maybe we would have bought large amounts of bitcoin 10 years ago.
Yes, people were afraid to join Bitcoin investment because there were too many negative news about Bitcoin. If I know Bitcoin 10 years ago, I also will doubt it and probably won't invest in Bitcoin. Even I have the intention to buy the Bitcoin, I must buy a very small number of Bitcoin. It is normal that people won't take a risk on the investment that they really don't know. Moreover, Bitcoin is unpredictable and has a too high volatility.


Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: EluguHcman on July 18, 2024, 06:41:53 PM
But this is about where story would have your fund invested so you just have to follow those on the same category of what works for you. So it is not about following the visionary people because you literally do not know who has clear vision and who does not. Especially when it comes to digital technology like crypto currency on a decentralized motive.

This is even why til date it become understandable that those criticizing Bitcoin are not to be blamed because Bitcoin is only exposed to anyone to adopt it and not really mean that everyone can adopt it.

Atleast given that rich man a benefit of doubt he is rich without investing on Bitcoin but yet the average man that had the vision about Bitcoin becoming a valuable asset was still right about valuability of Bitcoin in a nearest future.
We just have to give such vision a try if we can afford it and not really that we trusted them and that is exactly what is happening to Bitcoin even til date.

Its users do not really trust it from the beginning but giving it a try until the system proves itself to them about its reputations and potentials.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 18, 2024, 07:06:59 PM
If you missed your chance to be smart 10 years ago, at least do not miss your chance to be smart now. Its clear that a lot of people will not be buying even right now, when they should be buying. Thats an issue in the crypto world, if you know what you are doing, then you should not be worried about it at all. I personally try to buy as much as I can afford to, my finances are not great at the moment but its getting better, in a few months I will be back on being debtless (hopefully) and then I will keep on buying more. Yes we can't make money like the people from 10 years ago did, but at least we can make some profit.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Z-tight on July 18, 2024, 07:32:07 PM
but bitcoin is such an investment we will always be profitable in it and those who took their time in taking the risk for it now enjoys the benefits.
So many early investors didn't even see BTC as an investment opportunity, i say so because it wasn't worth anything then, they just believed in the BTC network and what it could offer in terms of financial freedom. But it is also great that some of them held their BTC's and were able to earn well from it when it was then worth something much later on.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JunaidAzizi on July 18, 2024, 10:09:55 PM
If you missed your chance to be smart 10 years ago, at least do not miss your chance to be smart now. Its clear that a lot of people will not be buying even right now, when they should be buying. Thats an issue in the crypto world, if you know what you are doing, then you should not be worried about it at all. I personally try to buy as much as I can afford to, my finances are not great at the moment but its getting better, in a few months I will be back on being debtless (hopefully) and then I will keep on buying more. Yes we can't make money like the people from 10 years ago did, but at least we can make some profit.
The world is full of foolish and stupid people; they missed a chance some years ago, but to worry about their foolish act, they are still missing the opportunity to be a part of Bitcoin. Bitcoin has a vast future; people will use it in their daily life as a currency, and at that time, they will be so regretful that they will not afford Bitcoin. So, instead of regretting, it is better to read and do some research on Bitcoin and be a part of this.

Well, it's a good thing that you will soon be debtless, and I am very happy for you because this debt did not move a person ahead and broke their backbone. So make sure that you will not fall into this trap.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 23, 2024, 11:57:39 PM
but bitcoin is such an investment we will always be profitable in it and those who took their time in taking the risk for it now enjoys the benefits.
So many early investors didn't even see BTC as an investment opportunity, i say so because it wasn't worth anything then, they just believed in the BTC network and what it could offer in terms of financial freedom. But it is also great that some of them held their BTC's and were able to earn well from it when it was then worth something much later on.
Yes that is it then if they knew it would worth something cherishable this way there isn't a day they could have risk to sell their investment rather was using it to test around the network and becoming more friendly to the network.
That is why we see lot of people regret when they had the chance to hold they could did it but ends up selling them at very cheap price when it wasn't upto 200$ per bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: TomPluz on July 24, 2024, 04:05:30 AM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

The big lesson I am learning here is that we are all human beings no matter how successful, authoritative and experienced a person is he can still be wrong. We can all be wrong...and many times some people we scorned for saying something we don't agree may end up the one who is correct. In this case, Tim Drapper is so right while Warren Buffet is so wrong. Lucky are those people who listened to Tim's advice and held on to his Bitcoin for the past many years. Imagine 10 years ago people were shocked to listen to someone saying that BTC can be as high as $10K...and jumping to the present day it is now even at more than $60K and with big potential for more on the offing. However, we should also understand that the market can be so full of predictions of this and that and it can be so crazy to listen to all of them and invest with the suggestions...so we could not really blame many people who failed to believe and seize the moment with Bitcoin at the right time.



Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 28, 2024, 01:41:46 PM
You are correct, i am not one of BTC's early adopters, but i am glad that i took interest in it when i found out about it, there are so many people that were misled by the media about BTC, and they lost interest without even trying to find out things by themselves. I am glad and thankful that Satoshi created something like BTC, and it can only get better for bitcoiners.
Yeah you are correct it will only get better, a lot of people missed out 10 years ago and has been regretting till date, but one should not be in that regret again because Bitcoin has not grown to it's peak and it has not even reached half of it's growth limit so we still have a lot of opportunity and time to engage in Bitcoin and make it big.
Some people feels is too late to engage in Bitcoin and this thinking will also lead to regret 6 or 10 years to come, Bitcoin investment will keep growing bigger and better and is wrong to think Bitcoin won't grow anymore.

And you are right when you say a lot of people were mislead my social media I know of someone that already started accumulating Bitcoin but later stopped because he saw a post on Facebook that Bitcoin will fall very soon and will never rise and he sold out all his Bitcoin investment without making a reasonable gain till date his regretting his actions.

Everything that has happened in the past should not affect your present, there's still time to start and no need to rush because Bitcoin still has a long way to go, start accumulating using the DCA strategy or any strategy you feel will be more convenient for you and you will grow and gain in profit.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on July 28, 2024, 02:54:28 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

The big lesson I am learning here is that we are all human beings no matter how successful, authoritative and experienced a person is he can still be wrong. We can all be wrong...and many times some people we scorned for saying something we don't agree may end up the one who is correct. In this case, Tim Drapper is so right while Warren Buffet is so wrong. Lucky are those people who listened to Tim's advice and held on to his Bitcoin for the past many years. Imagine 10 years ago people were shocked to listen to someone saying that BTC can be as high as $10K...and jumping to the present day it is now even at more than $60K and with big potential for more on the offing. However, we should also understand that the market can be so full of predictions of this and that and it can be so crazy to listen to all of them and invest with the suggestions...so we could not really blame many people who failed to believe and seize the moment with Bitcoin at the right time.

You see, even today Tim is right, and Buffett is still wrong and has considerable influence on all those who consider him one of the greatest in what he does. Tim could have kept quiet and invested in BTC and no one would have blamed him for that, but he still shared his opinion with everyone else - while Buffett was leading people astray, as he still does today with his statements.

I already wrote that being influential in society does not necessarily mean that someone is smart or has no bad intentions.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Asiska02 on August 15, 2024, 03:45:40 PM
You are correct, i am not one of BTC's early adopters, but i am glad that i took interest in it when i found out about it, there are so many people that were misled by the media about BTC, and they lost interest without even trying to find out things by themselves. I am glad and thankful that Satoshi created something like BTC, and it can only get better for bitcoiners.

Bitcoin came like a play to be honest and no many people were convinced that it was going to be worth what it is today. 10 years after, bitcoin was already gaining waves and many still doubted it won’t exceed there and cannot get better. After like three bitcoin cycles, it was already evident that bitcoin is going to the moon. Only the government people will never want to publicly show interest in bitcoin, but it is clear to them also that bitcoin will be worth many more dollars in the future without an exact prediction of how many it’s going to be. Like you said, it can only get better for bitcoiners.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on August 17, 2024, 12:44:45 PM
It's somewhat predictable if you're part of the market since 2016 or earlier because most of those people who invested in Bitcoin already predicted that one day Bitcoin will cross $17k and form a new ATH and then others who saw ATH of around $69k predicted that Bitcoin will cross that value and form a new ATH and that thing happened a few months ago. The ones who believe in Bitcoin often come with positive predictions and to be honest, most of those predictions happen in actual.

Every prediction of pump becomes true but not immediately so if someone has a target to sell his coins then it is necessary to wait for longer time as the target can achieve in weeks, months or even years. When Bitcoin had not touched 73k$ then people were thinking about a target less than 100k$ but with the passage of time their target value became increasing.

I think an individual should not just wait for a new ATH but selling before attaining ATH is also good if the price is higher than the buying price because here we are investing for making profit so such little profit regularly will make our financial system better one day.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: rizqillah on August 17, 2024, 12:46:09 PM
You are correct, i am not one of BTC's early adopters, but i am glad that i took interest in it when i found out about it, there are so many people that were misled by the media about BTC, and they lost interest without even trying to find out things by themselves. I am glad and thankful that Satoshi created something like BTC, and it can only get better for bitcoiners.

Bitcoin came like a play to be honest and no many people were convinced that it was going to be worth what it is today. 10 years after, bitcoin was already gaining waves and many still doubted it won’t exceed there and cannot get better. After like three bitcoin cycles, it was already evident that bitcoin is going to the moon. Only the government people will never want to publicly show interest in bitcoin, but it is clear to them also that bitcoin will be worth many more dollars in the future without an exact prediction of how many it’s going to be. Like you said, it can only get better for bitcoiners.
I remember the early days when bitcoin was launched, many people doubted it. Some even said it was a scam, and many countries' governments blocked it. The price of bitcoin was very cheap at that time, we could even get it for free from faucets. As time went by, the price of bitcoin became expensive and now we all see it. There is regret in my heart, why didn't I buy a lot at that time even when I got it for free after it started to become valuable I sold it. If I had held on until now, maybe I could have been rich, that's life.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 18, 2024, 12:51:14 PM
Yeah, 10 years ago some people had the opportunity to invest in Bitcoin but they didn't, they never believed in Bitcoin some were saying Bitcoin was a scam some even said Bitcoin will never grow or become valuable so they didn't invest why some took the investment in Bitcoin serious they just decided to try it since there's no harm in trying and now they are very happy they tried out because Bitcoin has grown so big in value and price.
Some people are so good in doubting they will never try something out they will only doubt and they always regret at last, I know some people who had the opportunity to invest in Bitcoin 5 years ago but didn't because they see Bitcoin as a scam and that Bitcoin will fall in price very soon but today they are regretting.
Those that didn't take the opportunity of investing in Bitcoin 10 years ago can still start now, but some of them still feel Bitcoin has stopped in it's growth they still don't believe Bitcoin will increase in price again or go more than $100k.
If you go through the history of Bitcoin growth you will know Bitcoin is met for greatness, Bitcoin has not reached half of it's growth level so if you start investing in Bitcoin now in the next 5 to 8 years you will make huge profit, Bitcoin will reach $500k and even more so no need to give up start today and become patient and consistent and you will succeed.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitbit97 on August 18, 2024, 01:28:28 PM
But people are way to much suspicious and scary. They rarely trust history. If something appears today, that will repeat the success of Bitcoin during its 10 years period, little will buy or invest in it. People were not smart 10 years, but rather brave. If you tell someone, that m&m candies would cost 100x times more than today, no one would believe in it and buy it for store in freezer.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on August 20, 2024, 11:30:17 PM
But people are way to much suspicious and scary. They rarely trust history. If something appears today, that will repeat the success of Bitcoin during its 10 years period, little will buy or invest in it. People were not smart 10 years, but rather brave. If you tell someone, that m&m candies would cost 100x times more than today, no one would believe in it and buy it for store in freezer.
I think it is human if people have fear and are considered unintelligent 10 years ago because when bitcoin was launched many negative issues attacked bitcoin even governments in many countries also rejected it. You are right, it took courage to buy and hold it at that time. Unfortunately I was not part of the brave people, because at that time I was still in doubt.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: kai on August 21, 2024, 07:18:35 AM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)


It sounds like yesterday afternoon but in fact Bitcoin has been predicted for a long time, even 10 years ago that Bitcoin would increase in price to $ 10,000.
At that time I might still be out of reach of the computer and did not know the story of Bitcoin, unfortunately I only got to know Bitcoin recently because the Bitcoin factor reached 1 Billion IDR (Indonesian Rupiah).

Maybe if I had known Bitcoin in 2013, at least I would have set aside 10 Bitcoin in my wallet for the long term and there was no need to sell or release Bitcoin from my hands.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: nakmantu99 on August 21, 2024, 11:45:52 PM
But people are way to much suspicious and scary. They rarely trust history. If something appears today, that will repeat the success of Bitcoin during its 10 years period, little will buy or invest in it. People were not smart 10 years, but rather brave. If you tell someone, that m&m candies would cost 100x times more than today, no one would believe in it and buy it for store in freezer.
I think it is human if people have fear and are considered unintelligent 10 years ago because when bitcoin was launched many negative issues attacked bitcoin even governments in many countries also rejected it. You are right, it took courage to buy and hold it at that time. Unfortunately I was not part of the brave people, because at that time I was still in doubt.
I got to know bitcoin when the price was already expensive, not when bitcoin was first launched. Maybe if I had known it earlier I could have bought bitcoin at a cheap price, unfortunately the information to me about crypto especially bitcoin came too late so that when I got to know it the price of bitcoin was already high. Maybe I was not part of the smart people 10 years ago, but part of the people who were late to know bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Vision pro on August 21, 2024, 11:56:47 PM
I am surprised to read your post because back in 2008-9 when bitcoin was barely there nobody knew about bitcoin.  No one believed in it because it did not exist.  But shatashinakamoto knew what it could be. Your story teaches a wonderful lesson that relying entirely on conventional wisdom or the opinions of famous people is not always the right way to go.  Especially when it comes to new technologies and emerging trends, it's important to listen to bold and visionary people, because they often understand the potential of new ideas in advance. Investors like Warren Buffett can be very successful in traditional financial markets, but their vision of new and innovative technologies can be limited.  can  On the other hand, people like Tim Draper, who saw the potential of cryptocurrencies, came up with a vision that was riskier but later proved extremely profitable.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: vegasus on August 21, 2024, 11:58:44 PM
Smart + believe + lucky.
Yes, because not all smart people at that time really believed in Bitcoin. Even until now, many smart people still deny and are not interested or do not believe in Bitcoin. That is why, more than those who believe in Bitcoin, they are also covered with various fortunes so that they can really be strong to fight from the beginning with Bitcoin. They are the highest believer of Bitcoin. Because if I personally could not have been like that at that time.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 22, 2024, 06:37:34 AM
Yes, because not all smart people at that time really believed in Bitcoin. Even until now, many smart people still deny and are not interested or do not believe in Bitcoin.
are they really smart if they do not see the potential of bitcoin? lol

there’s money in bitcoin and if you know how to maximize its potential surely you will receive good results in this economy, you should know better than avoid any opportunity for income
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They are the highest believer of Bitcoin. Because if I personally could not have been like that at that time.
i understand that during the early times it might have been hard to believe but not if you are still not a believer of bitcoin then there is nothing convincing you the opportunity proposes itself in front of you all you need to do is take it
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: legend45 on August 22, 2024, 10:13:13 PM
Smart + believe + lucky.
Yes, because not all smart people at that time really believed in Bitcoin. Even until now, many smart people still deny and are not interested or do not believe in Bitcoin. That is why, more than those who believe in Bitcoin, they are also covered with various fortunes so that they can really be strong to fight from the beginning with Bitcoin. They are the highest believer of Bitcoin. Because if I personally could not have been like that at that time.
I agree with your opinion, they are smart people who are lucky enough to believe in bitcoin when it was launched and buy it in large quantities. I am not a lucky person because I still do not believe in bitcoin at that time.
I only get free bitcoin from faucets and rush to sell it. It really seems like an unlucky person to get rich if you want to hold it until now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: salad daging on August 22, 2024, 10:28:19 PM
I got to know bitcoin when the price was already expensive, not when bitcoin was first launched. Maybe if I had known it earlier I could have bought bitcoin at a cheap price, unfortunately the information to me about crypto especially bitcoin came too late so that when I got to know it the price of bitcoin was already high. Maybe I was not part of the smart people 10 years ago, but part of the people who were late to know bitcoin.
If I'm not late with bitcoin information but tempted by momentary gains so that after selling I don't buy again and when it's high I just buy, that's what used to happen a lot, you could say FOMO because I saw the price of bitcoin.

but now trying to stay consistent, if not then it could be selling again when the price is down or not selling at the right time, I'm trying to maintain BTC now, still confident of $100K.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on August 22, 2024, 11:17:33 PM
i understand that during the early times it might have been hard to believe but not if you are still not a believer of bitcoin then there is nothing convincing you the opportunity proposes itself in front of you all you need to do is take it
I myself had a beginning to know bitcoin, still very doubtful whether bitcoin could give me profits or not.
But after buying and collecting it for the long term, I started to make tremendous profits.
That became the point where everything changed, and I really believe in bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: satpol_PP on August 23, 2024, 07:36:34 PM
i understand that during the early times it might have been hard to believe but not if you are still not a believer of bitcoin then there is nothing convincing you the opportunity proposes itself in front of you all you need to do is take it
I myself had a beginning to know bitcoin, still very doubtful whether bitcoin could give me profits or not.
But after buying and collecting it for the long term, I started to make tremendous profits.
That became the point where everything changed, and I really believe in bitcoin.
At the beginning I knew bitcoin also doubted, is it true that this will make us get profit. Especially when bitcoin was launched we read a lot of negative news about bitcoin and the government also banned it. but I tried to buy and hold bitcoin and get profit like you, this is something extraordinary. Although a little disappointed why I did not hold more because the price of bitcoin at that time was still cheap, but I am still grateful because I enjoy the profit from bitcoin.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: taufik123 on August 23, 2024, 08:37:36 PM
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Although a little disappointed why I did not hold more because the price of bitcoin at that time was still cheap, but I am still grateful because I enjoy the profit from bitcoin.
Yes, a sense of disappointment or regret will always be there when you don't hold back the Bitcoin you bought at a cheap price a few years ago.
I also felt it, but I was also aware that it was a journey that needed to be taken to know more about bitcoin and how to make a lot of money from bitcoin or other cryptos.

Past regrets will be a reminder that the price of Bitcoin was once very cheap and not even appreciated, but now Bitcoin is the most sought-after digital asset and wanted to be used as a long-term investment.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mia Chloe on August 24, 2024, 07:51:33 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Yeah you have hell lot of a point here. Fact is that way before now crypto and bitcoin was way new to the whole banking system and people didn't really believe in them because of that they were kind of scared of investing in them. Many people who didn't buy bitcoins then felt it had no future potential , and some that bought had the idea of the have nothing much to lose. It was to popularity and boom of the crypto space that made adoption and urge to invest grow in people.
Fact is that we can't actually tell what belief we would have in bitcoin's future as at that time based on the fact that almost no body took crypto seriously. However still in those same tims  some miners had some bitcoins they just kept aside since they pretty much didn't buy it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Azharul on August 25, 2024, 09:51:26 AM
In the 10 years ago people don’t know that future plan of bitcoin. Because when tv programmer was told bitcoin in his tv program, many common people were laugh to listen his talk. Because they couldn't understand the future opportunity in bitcoin. But now-a-days we can see the the tv programmer is told absolutely correct. But in the same time a famous investor told bitcoin is "mirage" and also told "rat poison". But we saw his decision is negative, and i believe that bitcoin price will tuch $100k within short time.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: ajiz138 on August 25, 2024, 02:56:44 PM
In the 10 years ago people don’t know that future plan of bitcoin. Because when tv programmer was told bitcoin in his tv program, many common people were laugh to listen his talk. Because they couldn't understand the future opportunity in bitcoin. But now-a-days we can see the the tv programmer is told absolutely correct. But in the same time a famous investor told bitcoin is "mirage" and also told "rat poison". But we saw his decision is negative, and i believe that bitcoin price will tuch $100k within short time.
When talking about the future, there will definitely be 2 responses from people, the first is they will laugh and think it's a joke and the second is they will think and eventually find out more about what is being talked about.

I'm sure 10 years ago there were people who thought this was a joke and now the most active and most enthusiastic people hold bitcoin. I think that's good, because even though it's a little late it's better than not doing it at all.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on August 25, 2024, 03:07:13 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Yeah you have hell lot of a point here. Fact is that way before now crypto and bitcoin was way new to the whole banking system and people didn't really believe in them because of that they were kind of scared of investing in them. Many people who didn't buy bitcoins then felt it had no future potential , and some that bought had the idea of the have nothing much to lose. It was to popularity and boom of the crypto space that made adoption and urge to invest grow in people.
Fact is that we can't actually tell what belief we would have in bitcoin's future as at that time based on the fact that almost no body took crypto seriously. However still in those same tims  some miners had some bitcoins they just kept aside since they pretty much didn't buy it.
Opportunity like that is something one shouldn't missed because nothing on this planet would make bitcoin fall so low were people will buy very cheap, even some of these coin that are worth something huge today people didn't believe in them especially Ethereum, when I began t hear about it was around 10$ and all of the sudden it booms to something I can't comprehend to extent scaled up to 4k plus before dropped down to 2k plus currently. The goal is we should always utilize them when the chances are there.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: 0t3p0t on August 25, 2024, 04:45:05 PM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Yeah you have hell lot of a point here. Fact is that way before now crypto and bitcoin was way new to the whole banking system and people didn't really believe in them because of that they were kind of scared of investing in them. Many people who didn't buy bitcoins then felt it had no future potential , and some that bought had the idea of the have nothing much to lose. It was to popularity and boom of the crypto space that made adoption and urge to invest grow in people.
Fact is that we can't actually tell what belief we would have in bitcoin's future as at that time based on the fact that almost no body took crypto seriously. However still in those same tims  some miners had some bitcoins they just kept aside since they pretty much didn't buy it.
Opportunity like that is something one shouldn't missed because nothing on this planet would make bitcoin fall so low were people will buy very cheap, even some of these coin that are worth something huge today people didn't believe in them especially Ethereum, when I began t hear about it was around 10$ and all of the sudden it booms to something I can't comprehend to extent scaled up to 4k plus before dropped down to 2k plus currently. The goal is we should always utilize them when the chances are there.
Yeah but the problem of ultilizing that low is the availability of capital to buy especially for individuals like me who has no stable job which might miss all those opportunities most of the time. I also had that experience when Bitcoin and Ethereum was on it's lowest price some years ago but I was unlucky to buy due to lack of funds. 😅
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: SmartGold01 on August 26, 2024, 12:42:04 AM
Yeah I made money but I did not believe in BTC until Dec 2017.

I could have done worse but I could have done better.
Yeah you have hell lot of a point here. Fact is that way before now crypto and bitcoin was way new to the whole banking system and people didn't really believe in them because of that they were kind of scared of investing in them. Many people who didn't buy bitcoins then felt it had no future potential , and some that bought had the idea of the have nothing much to lose. It was to popularity and boom of the crypto space that made adoption and urge to invest grow in people.
Fact is that we can't actually tell what belief we would have in bitcoin's future as at that time based on the fact that almost no body took crypto seriously. However still in those same tims  some miners had some bitcoins they just kept aside since they pretty much didn't buy it.
Opportunity like that is something one shouldn't missed because nothing on this planet would make bitcoin fall so low were people will buy very cheap, even some of these coin that are worth something huge today people didn't believe in them especially Ethereum, when I began t hear about it was around 10$ and all of the sudden it booms to something I can't comprehend to extent scaled up to 4k plus before dropped down to 2k plus currently. The goal is we should always utilize them when the chances are there.
Yeah but the problem of ultilizing that low is the availability of capital to buy especially for individuals like me who has no stable job which might miss all those opportunities most of the time. I also had that experience when Bitcoin and Ethereum was on it's lowest price some years ago but I was unlucky to buy due to lack of funds. 😅
Talking about funds makes it looks like trying to pass an excuse why you couldn't buy bitcoin, but lemme just tell you truth that as then fund is not the problems because I believe bitcoin was around cent that was within 2009-10. What most happened is that lot of people lack mentorship or do I say sound knowledge to understand where the technology is going towards before we could call about funds, what just happened is that as then lot of people didn't believe and have that trust with bitcoin and there were taking for a joke maybe they never knew that bitcoin could be this expensive and valuable globally.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mia Chloe on August 26, 2024, 09:38:58 AM
If I'm not late with bitcoin information but tempted by momentary gains so that after selling I don't buy again and when it's high I just buy, that's what used to happen a lot, you could say FOMO because I saw the price of bitcoin.

but now trying to stay consistent, if not then it could be selling again when the price is down or not selling at the right time, I'm trying to maintain BTC now, still confident of $100K.
Personally I won't classify the fact that some people with huge amounts of bitcoin during the earliest time of its launch sold their coins off because of FOMO. the reason is because they were not scared of selling their coins because of a dip or something like prize shift in either profit or loss, rather they sold off those coins because they didn't see potential in it. I wouldn't blame old whales that sold off their coins during earliest times because adoption was way low and almost no investor saw potential in bitcoin.
I bet you people of the likes of Laszlo wouldn't have sold their coins if they knew that it would boom to this extent.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitbit97 on August 26, 2024, 03:38:17 PM
Indeed they were not scared to sell, but I could also say that they were not in huge need in money. Also, I dont believe when people say "I have always believed in Bitcoin. I was a fan since the very beginning". Imho these people mined first Bitcoins just for fun, just because "the software was running on the background". Only few really believed and mined, because they knew the price would go up. And many among those have sold when price reached first thousands. I wont say "they were smart". They were lucky, smart, and lots of circumstances worked out well.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Hisbullah on August 28, 2024, 12:00:35 PM
Indeed they were not scared to sell, but I could also say that they were not in huge need in money. Also, I dont believe when people say "I have always believed in Bitcoin. I was a fan since the very beginning". Imho these people mined first Bitcoins just for fun, just because "the software was running on the background". Only few really believed and mined, because they knew the price would go up. And many among those have sold when price reached first thousands. I wont say "they were smart". They were lucky, smart, and lots of circumstances worked out well.
Actually, those who still hold bitcoin since the beginning of bitcoin's launch because they do not need money and are still holding it until now. While most people rush to sell bitcoin when they feel they have made a profit. Bitcoin miners from the beginning enjoy great results if they still hold their bitcoins, even though they sell some of the results of bitcoin mining.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitbit97 on August 28, 2024, 12:35:54 PM
Indeed they were not scared to sell, but I could also say that they were not in huge need in money. Also, I dont believe when people say "I have always believed in Bitcoin. I was a fan since the very beginning". Imho these people mined first Bitcoins just for fun, just because "the software was running on the background". Only few really believed and mined, because they knew the price would go up. And many among those have sold when price reached first thousands. I wont say "they were smart". They were lucky, smart, and lots of circumstances worked out well.
Actually, those who still hold bitcoin since the beginning of bitcoin's launch because they do not need money and are still holding it until now. While most people rush to sell bitcoin when they feel they have made a profit. Bitcoin miners from the beginning enjoy great results if they still hold their bitcoins, even though they sell some of the results of bitcoin mining.

Which means that 10 years ago not everyone were smart. Some were lucky, some were financially stable and were not in need of money right here and right now. So I find incorrect to say that all those who help for many years are smart. In fact we do not know how they will react, if the price drops from current $60k to $10k. Really smart ones would probably keep on holding, others might sell.

For example, I have a pokemon card. It lies in a box with my old school era stuff for years. I suppose it has a value. But I am lazy to find it out. It might cost cents, or might cost hundreds if it is rare. Nevertheless, I would not say that I am smart because I hold, I am just lazy and keep it as a memory.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Wiseman on August 28, 2024, 03:05:26 PM
10 years ago a man appeared on a TV program in the US and boldly said that 1 BTC will be worth at least $10 000 in the next 3 years. Many laughed at him and looked at him strangely after that, but the man always had a nose for such things and was actually right.

Around the same time, one of the most famous investors in the US declared that Bitcoin is "mirage", and a few years later he stated that BTC is “probably rat poison squared”.

What is the lesson of the story? Sometimes you should not blindly listen to those who are "successful", but to those who are perhaps a little less successful, but always follow new technologies and understand their potential.

Fortunately, in 2014 I didn't listen to Warren Buffett but to Tim Draper ;)


All these stories are similar to new signs where, for example, in some countries if a black cat crosses your path, you should expect trouble, and in another country, on the contrary, if a black cat crosses your path, it means good luck )))
All this is just a coincidence and a play on words that can lead to what you wrote about, I am sure that there were hundreds of people like him and he alone stupidly said for fun that bitcoin would cost 10,000, but in fact he could not know anything for sure, I clearly remember that time and how everyone was talking about bitcoin, there was no one to sell it to and it was certainly unrealistic to make a forecast on how much it would cost, it was just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: kulkhan on August 29, 2024, 08:48:13 PM
Yes All people are not same, Some people always smart and uptodate. We saw many example about it. Some people did previously even many years ago now some people doing that now. Like we know Huge people bought bitcoin when bitcoin price was very low and they are holding that for long time Became they understood about Bitcoin's future. 

But most of people Don't think about Bitcoin's future. So how Bought bitcoin before 10/12 years ago and hold that now they are financially established there has no doubt. But average people couldn’t think about future of bitcoin so they are not economically established till now. So i am agree with you Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: B.Trader on August 29, 2024, 08:55:52 PM
It's fascinating how perspectives on technology and innovation can vary widely, even among the most successful investors. The lesson you shared highlights the importance of thinking independently and being open to new ideas, even when they go against mainstream opinions.Warren Buffett, despite being one of the most successful investors in history, is known for his skepticism of emerging technologies like Bitcoin. On the other hand, people like Tim Draper saw the potential of Bitcoin early on, recognizing that disruptive technologies often face resistance before gaining widespread acceptance.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: nakmantu99 on August 29, 2024, 09:30:06 PM
Yes All people are not same, Some people always smart and uptodate. We saw many example about it. Some people did previously even many years ago now some people doing that now. Like we know Huge people bought bitcoin when bitcoin price was very low and they are holding that for long time Became they understood about Bitcoin's future. 

But most of people Don't think about Bitcoin's future. So how Bought bitcoin before 10/12 years ago and hold that now they are financially established there has no doubt. But average people couldn’t think about future of bitcoin so they are not economically established till now. So i am agree with you Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not.
I agree with you, maybe those who did not buy bitcoin 10 years ago were people who had doubts and whose economy was not yet stable. Because they were afraid of losing, where the need will always be there. While for those who are smart and have good finances they will buy bitcoin at that time and hold it for the long term because they have predicted that bitcoin will have a bright future.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JoyMarsha on August 29, 2024, 10:16:58 PM
Up till this time, some people are still not smart towards Bitcoin investment, maybe they don't believe or understand the concept behind Bitcoin creation and its investment.

That's the same way as we have many people who are just being smart in what they lay their beliefs on. Being smart can't work in what someone has less idea of. Those people who were smart 10 years ago were smart because they believed in Bitcoin; those who weren't were because they didn't believe in it; we don't have to blame anybody for whatever they chose to be smart of or not, as we are not forcing or convincing anyone to invest in Bitcoin now they have the opportunity to. Everything thing we choose do in this life, is a choice. It can turn out good or bad in the future
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: rizqillah on August 29, 2024, 11:17:53 PM
Up till this time, some people are still not smart towards Bitcoin investment, maybe they don't believe or understand the concept behind Bitcoin creation and its investment.

That's the same way as we have many people who are just being smart in what they lay their beliefs on. Being smart can't work in what someone has less idea of. Those people who were smart 10 years ago were smart because they believed in Bitcoin; those who weren't were because they didn't believe in it; we don't have to blame anybody for whatever they chose to be smart of or not, as we are not forcing or convincing anyone to invest in Bitcoin now they have the opportunity to. Everything thing we choose do in this life, is a choice. It can turn out good or bad in the future

Doubt is a natural emotion and will be experienced by everyone, especially when bitcoin first existed, when bitcoin was first launched many were doubtful. I do not mean he was stupid, just not brave enough to take risks because at that time there was a lot of bad news and some thought bitcoin was a scam and the risk was very high. Only people who dared to take risks at that time and had good intuition are currently feeling the results.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: satpol_PP on August 30, 2024, 11:21:54 AM
Up till this time, some people are still not smart towards Bitcoin investment, maybe they don't believe or understand the concept behind Bitcoin creation and its investment.

That's the same way as we have many people who are just being smart in what they lay their beliefs on. Being smart can't work in what someone has less idea of. Those people who were smart 10 years ago were smart because they believed in Bitcoin; those who weren't were because they didn't believe in it; we don't have to blame anybody for whatever they chose to be smart of or not, as we are not forcing or convincing anyone to invest in Bitcoin now they have the opportunity to. Everything thing we choose do in this life, is a choice. It can turn out good or bad in the future

Doubt is a natural emotion and will be experienced by everyone, especially when bitcoin first existed, when bitcoin was first launched many were doubtful. I do not mean he was stupid, just not brave enough to take risks because at that time there was a lot of bad news and some thought bitcoin was a scam and the risk was very high. Only people who dared to take risks at that time and had good intuition are currently feeling the results.
That's the part I regret in the past why I didn't buy bitcoin at that time, I even sold the bitcoin that I got for free at a cheap price. I sometimes imagine if I still hold it until now, I probably already have a lot of money. But as people say, we don't need to regret, we better start focusing on investing now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Marykeller on August 30, 2024, 11:50:06 PM
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Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on August 31, 2024, 01:57:39 PM


I believed in Bitcoin right away after my first transaction and after reading why and how it was created but I was too late I registered on Bitcointalk 2013 but it took me 3 years after my first transactions like me so many of us only believe if it becomes popular and understand the technology behind Bitcoin
You know Bitcoin has the potential for huge profit but you're still looking for something new that is very similar to Bitcoin and wants to be an early bird.
You are someone who has been in the crypto world for a long time because in 2013 you already had an account on bitcointalk. At that time I didn't know the forum and looked for news about bitcoin from the media and didn't create an account there, As far as I remember, I don't know what year I got free bitcoin from a faucet and I sold it when the price was high.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: robelneo on August 31, 2024, 08:48:08 PM


I believed in Bitcoin right away after my first transaction and after reading why and how it was created but I was too late I registered on Bitcointalk 2013 but it took me 3 years after my first transactions like me so many of us only believe if it becomes popular and understand the technology behind Bitcoin
You know Bitcoin has the potential for huge profit but you're still looking for something new that is very similar to Bitcoin and wants to be an early bird.
You are someone who has been in the crypto world for a long time because in 2013 you already had an account on bitcointalk. At that time I didn't know the forum and looked for news about bitcoin from the media and didn't create an account there, As far as I remember, I don't know what year I got free bitcoin from a faucet and I sold it when the price was high.

I had a lot of regrets and have coins and tokens that I took for granted its really hard when you have nothing or zero and you suddenly find yourself with a lot of profit. I lost my chance on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin, and the so many coins that started 7 or 8 years ago that are on top of the market.

One of my biggest regrets was Doge used to have over 100k but I dump thinking that this meme was fading and will be going to oblivion, I should have waited two years before it made a big pump.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: babo on September 01, 2024, 10:09:41 AM
in any case it is better not to think about the past... I too have been in this world for a long time but I have always focused on interesting technology and I have never believed in the project
Now I know, is it probably too late? no it's always a good time to enter the revolution so those who have been outside of it must think in this positive way
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on September 03, 2024, 03:04:10 PM
in any case it is better not to think about the past... I too have been in this world for a long time but I have always focused on interesting technology and I have never believed in the project
Now I know, is it probably too late? no it's always a good time to enter the revolution so those who have been outside of it must think in this positive way


Some would say that it's not worth crying over spilled milk, others might find another saying like Historia est Magistra Vitae, which, in my opinion, makes much more sense if we know how to learn from history. Thinking outside the box and not blindly believing everything you hear and see is a good recipe to improve your chances of succeeding in life.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitbit97 on September 03, 2024, 03:40:18 PM
I had a lot of regrets and have coins and tokens that I took for granted its really hard when you have nothing or zero and you suddenly find yourself with a lot of profit. I lost my chance on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin, and the so many coins that started 7 or 8 years ago that are on top of the market.

One of my biggest regrets was Doge used to have over 100k but I dump thinking that this meme was fading and will be going to oblivion, I should have waited two years before it made a big pump.

In your case, and it suits for many as well, you have sold your dogecoins not because you were not smart enough, but because you were in short of money. Otherwise, no matter happens with market, no matter what value your dogecoins were, you would still hold them. This makes whole case about not being the smartest o keep holding, but being wealthy enough that money issues wont distract you from holding. We sell not because we are stupid, but because we need money right now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: legend45 on September 04, 2024, 10:23:35 PM
I had a lot of regrets and have coins and tokens that I took for granted its really hard when you have nothing or zero and you suddenly find yourself with a lot of profit. I lost my chance on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin, and the so many coins that started 7 or 8 years ago that are on top of the market.

One of my biggest regrets was Doge used to have over 100k but I dump thinking that this meme was fading and will be going to oblivion, I should have waited two years before it made a big pump.

In your case, and it suits for many as well, you have sold your dogecoins not because you were not smart enough, but because you were in short of money. Otherwise, no matter happens with market, no matter what value your dogecoins were, you would still hold them. This makes whole case about not being the smartest o keep holding, but being wealthy enough that money issues wont distract you from holding. We sell not because we are stupid, but because we need money right now.
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Wiseman on September 08, 2024, 09:06:46 AM
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.

Bro, you did everything right by buying the Dogs token, the fact that the price has dropped a little is not significant, you can earn 200-300% on it if you don’t panic.
As for whether to spend money on your satisfaction, I’ll say yes, spend it and as often as possible, otherwise you’ll burn out on the desire to earn money.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: doc on September 11, 2024, 07:33:30 PM
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.

Bro, you did everything right by buying the Dogs token, the fact that the price has dropped a little is not significant, you can earn 200-300% on it if you don’t panic.
As for whether to spend money on your satisfaction, I’ll say yes, spend it and as often as possible, otherwise you’ll burn out on the desire to earn money.
It seems that the dogs coin is quite hype, it might be a competitor of doge and shib in the future, I only have a few dogs from the airdrop. I didn't buy this coin, because I ran out of capital and got caught in a price drop. Maybe next time I will buy dogs. Because right now I only focus on the top 10 coins, but meme coins should also be considered to hold until the bullish season.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on September 12, 2024, 09:40:24 AM
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.

Bro, you did everything right by buying the Dogs token, the fact that the price has dropped a little is not significant, you can earn 200-300% on it if you don’t panic.
As for whether to spend money on your satisfaction, I’ll say yes, spend it and as often as possible, otherwise you’ll burn out on the desire to earn money.
It seems that the dogs coin is quite hype, it might be a competitor of doge and shib in the future, I only have a few dogs from the airdrop. I didn't buy this coin, because I ran out of capital and got caught in a price drop. Maybe next time I will buy dogs. Because right now I only focus on the top 10 coins, but meme coins should also be considered to hold until the bullish season.
Dogs can be considered fascinating and have the potential to be on the level of Doge and Shiba if the hype persists. However, hunting down meme coins is a reasonable meme investing approach during a bull run and it is preferable to stick with the biggest names currently. If capital allows in the future, it may not be a bad idea to add Dogs to your portfolio if the favourable trend continues.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bhadz on September 12, 2024, 11:17:07 AM
I like Tim Draper, he's predicting a good future of Bitcoin and we have to be open with these predictions by these men that believes on Bitcoin. Why would we have to listen to people that keeps on bashing Bitcoin? Yeah, they're successful but we have our own minds too, they just can't say that this and the others will be successful. No one holds the future but only us and if we do know what we are doing and believing, the future is in our hands.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Blaze on September 12, 2024, 11:54:20 AM
I like Tim Draper, he's predicting a good future of Bitcoin and we have to be open with these predictions by these men that believes on Bitcoin. Why would we have to listen to people that keeps on bashing Bitcoin? Yeah, they're successful but we have our own minds too, they just can't say that this and the others will be successful. No one holds the future but only us and if we do know what we are doing and believing, the future is in our hands.
Tim Draper is quite optimistic about Bitcoin, and one has to take the words of someone who sees potential in cryptocurrency to heart. Their perception can be helpful and motivating especially when the market appears uncertain.

But we also need to understand that there are no certainties when it comes to investment, be it Bitcoin. Comparing and evaluating the tangible and intangible pros and cons of a particular situation assists in decision-making. Therefore the possibilities of our investments tomorrow lie in absolute risk and opportunity assessment according to the available or perceived knowledge and beliefs.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Hisbullah on September 12, 2024, 04:03:28 PM
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.

Bro, you did everything right by buying the Dogs token, the fact that the price has dropped a little is not significant, you can earn 200-300% on it if you don’t panic.
As for whether to spend money on your satisfaction, I’ll say yes, spend it and as often as possible, otherwise you’ll burn out on the desire to earn money.
It seems that the dogs coin is quite hype, it might be a competitor of doge and shib in the future, I only have a few dogs from the airdrop. I didn't buy this coin, because I ran out of capital and got caught in a price drop. Maybe next time I will buy dogs. Because right now I only focus on the top 10 coins, but meme coins should also be considered to hold until the bullish season.
Dogs can be considered fascinating and have the potential to be on the level of Doge and Shiba if the hype persists. However, hunting down meme coins is a reasonable meme investing approach during a bull run and it is preferable to stick with the biggest names currently. If capital allows in the future, it may not be a bad idea to add Dogs to your portfolio if the favourable trend continues.
I see many people holding dogs and hoping that this coin will give big profits, but don't forget dogs are still meme coins, dogs can be hype and when time goes by the popularity of dogs can also fade. I only hold a little dogs because my biggest assets are in the top 5 coins, bitcoin ethereum and solana.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: summonerrk on September 12, 2024, 08:18:31 PM
Buffett and guys like him did not get out of poverty, they were all children of very successful parents. And therefore such people could never know what the Bitcoin rate would be like. Moreover, they are old and their brains cannot adapt to new realities and technologies. Remember Kiyosaki. He is now carrying some spam.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on September 13, 2024, 05:17:21 PM
Buffett and guys like him did not get out of poverty, they were all children of very successful parents. And therefore such people could never know what the Bitcoin rate would be like. Moreover, they are old and their brains cannot adapt to new realities and technologies. Remember Kiyosaki. He is now carrying some spam.

I don't know if WB was born rich or not, but what I know for sure is that he has a great aversion to everything that he thinks he can't control somehow. If by some chance BTC was an "invention" of the American government, there should be no doubt that he would have a different opinion, but the decentralization on which BTC works is what makes people like him say very ugly things all the time.

Being smart is being able to recognize when these so-called smart people want to convince you that something is bad for some of their own personal interests - when we go back 10 years, we see that WB's opinion about BTC was completely wrong.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: summonerrk on September 13, 2024, 08:08:12 PM
Buffett and guys like him did not get out of poverty, they were all children of very successful parents. And therefore such people could never know what the Bitcoin rate would be like. Moreover, they are old and their brains cannot adapt to new realities and technologies. Remember Kiyosaki. He is now carrying some spam.

I don't know if WB was born rich or not, but what I know for sure is that he has a great aversion to everything that he thinks he can't control somehow. If by some chance BTC was an "invention" of the American government, there should be no doubt that he would have a different opinion, but the decentralization on which BTC works is what makes people like him say very ugly things all the time.

Being smart is being able to recognize when these so-called smart people want to convince you that something is bad for some of their own personal interests - when we go back 10 years, we see that WB's opinion about BTC was completely wrong.

Being rich means constantly thinking and guessing. I have no doubt that Buffett probably has some skills in the field of financial analysis, and that someone else in his place could have already zeroed out his fortune. And such people do not like what they cannot control, however, cryptocurrencies are a phenomenon that in principle cannot be controlled and this is great. The only phenomenon that got out of control is USDT. This crap is centralized, and because of this it is dangerous.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Wiseman on September 14, 2024, 09:01:03 AM
If we need money and it is to fulfill our living needs, we should not say that we are not smart, but because we really need money for our needs, I also have doge, yesterday I bought it and now I am trapped because it turns out that the price of bitcoin has fallen and doge has also experienced a price decrease.

Bro, you did everything right by buying the Dogs token, the fact that the price has dropped a little is not significant, you can earn 200-300% on it if you don’t panic.
As for whether to spend money on your satisfaction, I’ll say yes, spend it and as often as possible, otherwise you’ll burn out on the desire to earn money.
It seems that the dogs coin is quite hype, it might be a competitor of doge and shib in the future, I only have a few dogs from the airdrop. I didn't buy this coin, because I ran out of capital and got caught in a price drop. Maybe next time I will buy dogs. Because right now I only focus on the top 10 coins, but meme coins should also be considered to hold until the bullish season.

Well, actually it makes no difference whether you bought them or received them as an airdrop. I personally received them from an airdrop from several accounts and I have a lot of them. Some people don’t want to bother with airdrops and it’s easier for them to buy them. At the moment it was easier for me to get them. But the main thing is that you need to be patient and not sell anything until you see a good price.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Parzival204 on September 14, 2024, 09:50:21 AM
At first I didn't believe that BTC would be this expensive now. I used to think which rich person would want to invest in something that is uncertain. But people now only regret it when they find out the current price of Bitcoin and didn't mine Bitcoin in the first place.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mia Chloe on September 14, 2024, 11:14:46 PM
At first I didn't believe that BTC would be this expensive now. I used to think which rich person would want to invest in something that is uncertain. But people now only regret it when they find out the current price of Bitcoin and didn't mine Bitcoin in the first place.
From a point of view if everyone had equally believed in bitcoin and accurately speculated its current progress, chances have it that it wouldn't have Gotten to this level or extent. Bitcoin was the first crypto currency of its Time of launch and as a result you wouldn't really expect everyone to believe in something very new like that all of a sudden. However the fact still remains that some people still speculated the progress of bitcoin though most of them were some years after it's launch.

Anyways those who invested in bitcoin very long ago surely gained a whole lot of profit however it isn't too late to invest infact it's safe to say that it's never too late to invest.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: armanda90 on September 14, 2024, 11:26:11 PM
From a point of view if everyone had equally believed in bitcoin and accurately speculated its current progress, chances have it that it wouldn't have Gotten to this level or extent. Bitcoin was the first crypto currency of its Time of launch and as a result you wouldn't really expect everyone to believe in something very new like that all of a sudden. However the fact still remains that some people still speculated the progress of bitcoin though most of them were some years after it's launch.

Anyways those who invested in bitcoin very long ago surely gained a whole lot of profit however it isn't too late to invest infact it's safe to say that it's never too late to invest.
Can't predicting with bitcoin price in the future will significant increasing or decreasing, I don't think stupid people when investing in bitcoin last ten years ago and sold it without waiting price going up because they have own needed why have to sell the bitcoin assets.
The same position when holding altcoin since investing on ICO sale exactly many top altcoin have most cheapest price but many of them sold their altcoin with lower price comparison how much profitable earn if keep hold it until several years later.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mia Chloe on September 14, 2024, 11:32:44 PM
Can't predicting with bitcoin price in the future will significant increasing or decreasing, I don't think stupid people when investing in bitcoin last ten years ago and sold it without waiting price going up because they have own needed why have to sell the bitcoin assets.
The same position when holding altcoin since investing on ICO sale exactly many top altcoin have most cheapest price but many of them sold their altcoin with lower price comparison how much profitable earn if keep hold it until several years later.
Bitcoin investment or rather bitcoin hodling is more of a volume and time dependent profit. The volume profit aspect is quite simple, the more coins you HODL, the more the returns you get after price pumps. Bitcoin hodling takes a lot of time. Infact most whales today had to HODL for literally years to be able to have coins worth enough to make them whales today. The time aspect of HODL is kinda like the biggest and most difficult part attached to it.
If you check closely you would notice that sometimes bitcoin makes a slight increase in price before falling and then gaining value again. Infact that is the period we are kinda in now however most people are easily tempted to sell off in dips.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Azaleea on September 15, 2024, 08:56:54 AM
At first I didn't believe that BTC would be this expensive now. I used to think which rich person would want to invest in something that is uncertain. But people now only regret it when they find out the current price of Bitcoin and didn't mine Bitcoin in the first place.
you are right, honestly we have many people regretting because they used to doubt that bitcoin would not be this expensive. If they knew, maybe they would have bought a lot of bitcoin and held it until now or started mining from the beginning and not selling it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on September 20, 2024, 02:32:35 PM
From a point of view if everyone had equally believed in bitcoin and accurately speculated its current progress, chances have it that it wouldn't have Gotten to this level or extent. Bitcoin was the first crypto currency of its Time of launch and as a result you wouldn't really expect everyone to believe in something very new like that all of a sudden. However the fact still remains that some people still speculated the progress of bitcoin though most of them were some years after it's launch.

Anyways those who invested in bitcoin very long ago surely gained a whole lot of profit however it isn't too late to invest infact it's safe to say that it's never too late to invest.
Can't predicting with bitcoin price in the future will significant increasing or decreasing, I don't think stupid people when investing in bitcoin last ten years ago and sold it without waiting price going up because they have own needed why have to sell the bitcoin assets.
The same position when holding altcoin since investing on ICO sale exactly many top altcoin have most cheapest price but many of them sold their altcoin with lower price comparison how much profitable earn if keep hold it until several years later.
In fact, no one can accurately forecast the price trend of Bitcoin or any altcoin since everyone has various reasons that compel them to make certain decisions. What is so disgusting is that those some people who were once involved in the selling of Bitcoin or altcoins may have had no other option but to engage in that activity perhaps due to cash needs, or insecurity, that is a good decision. Even if looking for the long-term factors, one can see that numerous altcoins, earlier considered inexpensive, have already demonstrated considerable appreciation. This proves that long-term vision must be present in investments as the maximum return can be earned if one is willing to wait on the growth in intrinsic value of the invested asset.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mia Chloe on September 20, 2024, 05:07:33 PM
you are right, honestly we have many people regretting because they used to doubt that bitcoin would not be this expensive. If they knew, maybe they would have bought a lot of bitcoin and held it until now or started mining from the beginning and not selling it.
Bitcoin obviously was the first of its kind at that time and your wouldn't expect everyone to just dive into believing in it at that time. Many persons who are whales today are actually lucky persons and not because the knew from the onset that bitcoin would progress to this extent.  The crypto space is very volatile and of such predicting it can be very difficult.
I definitely won't blame anyone for not investing in bitcoin at the very early periods of its launch because virtually almost no one could pin point it progress as of now. Of course some persons may have predicted that it would be something nice in the future but many never saw the progress of this extent.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JISAN on September 20, 2024, 06:21:59 PM
you are right, honestly we have many people regretting because they used to doubt that bitcoin would not be this expensive. If they knew, maybe they would have bought a lot of bitcoin and held it until now or started mining from the beginning and not selling it.
Bitcoin obviously was the first of its kind at that time and your wouldn't expect everyone to just dive into believing in it at that time. Many persons who are whales today are actually lucky persons and not because the knew from the onset that bitcoin would progress to this extent.  The crypto space is very volatile and of such predicting it can be very difficult.
I definitely won't blame anyone for not investing in bitcoin at the very early periods of its launch because virtually almost no one could pin point it progress as of now. Of course some persons may have predicted that it would be something nice in the future but many never saw the progress of this extent.
10 No matter how smart someone is! I don't think they thought about the position Bitcoin is in today. Bitcoin was the first digital currency, so many people held Bitcoin as a hobby, but they didn't think it would change their fortunes in such a way.  So I'd say those holding bitcoins from ten years ago are very lucky. I will not exclude them from the queue of smart. Because if they were not smart then they would not have been familiar with such technology at that time. and didn't even know about Bitcoin
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on September 20, 2024, 11:35:10 PM
you are right, honestly we have many people regretting because they used to doubt that bitcoin would not be this expensive. If they knew, maybe they would have bought a lot of bitcoin and held it until now or started mining from the beginning and not selling it.
Bitcoin obviously was the first of its kind at that time and your wouldn't expect everyone to just dive into believing in it at that time. Many persons who are whales today are actually lucky persons and not because the knew from the onset that bitcoin would progress to this extent.  The crypto space is very volatile and of such predicting it can be very difficult.
I definitely won't blame anyone for not investing in bitcoin at the very early periods of its launch because virtually almost no one could pin point it progress as of now. Of course some persons may have predicted that it would be something nice in the future but many never saw the progress of this extent.
10 No matter how smart someone is! I don't think they thought about the position Bitcoin is in today. Bitcoin was the first digital currency, so many people held Bitcoin as a hobby, but they didn't think it would change their fortunes in such a way.  So I'd say those holding bitcoins from ten years ago are very lucky. I will not exclude them from the queue of smart. Because if they were not smart then they would not have been familiar with such technology at that time. and didn't even know about Bitcoin
I agree with you, those who hold bitcoin from 10 years ago are smart and lucky people because they have the right mindset and are now successful because they see the price of bitcoin is so expensive. I am not as smart and lucky as them because I came late and tried to invest to get profit even though the result is not as big as theirs.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on September 21, 2024, 01:52:34 PM
you are right, honestly we have many people regretting because they used to doubt that bitcoin would not be this expensive. If they knew, maybe they would have bought a lot of bitcoin and held it until now or started mining from the beginning and not selling it.
Bitcoin obviously was the first of its kind at that time and your wouldn't expect everyone to just dive into believing in it at that time. Many persons who are whales today are actually lucky persons and not because the knew from the onset that bitcoin would progress to this extent.  The crypto space is very volatile and of such predicting it can be very difficult.
I definitely won't blame anyone for not investing in bitcoin at the very early periods of its launch because virtually almost no one could pin point it progress as of now. Of course some persons may have predicted that it would be something nice in the future but many never saw the progress of this extent.
10 No matter how smart someone is! I don't think they thought about the position Bitcoin is in today. Bitcoin was the first digital currency, so many people held Bitcoin as a hobby, but they didn't think it would change their fortunes in such a way.  So I'd say those holding bitcoins from ten years ago are very lucky. I will not exclude them from the queue of smart. Because if they were not smart then they would not have been familiar with such technology at that time. and didn't even know about Bitcoin
While a lot of people first engaged with Bitcoin just to try it out, those who have followed through to now show an impressive intuition and maybe some good luck. Understanding the opportunity of blockchain technology and Bitcoin was not trivial at that time, and those who leapt into the crypto space early had their own individual visions. It was not just luck that was on their side; they were equally inclined to take risks when digital currencies' direction was mostly ignored by the public. While not all could predict Bitcoin's massive impact, there was exceptional reasoning in their decision to maintain ownership of it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: rizqillah on September 21, 2024, 05:57:02 PM

I agree with you, those who hold bitcoin from 10 years ago are smart and lucky people because they have the right mindset and are now successful because they see the price of bitcoin is so expensive. I am not as smart and lucky as them because I came late and tried to invest to get profit even though the result is not as big as theirs.
I think it's better to forget about it, because 10 years ago when bitcoin was launched many people had concerns about buying and holding bitcoin, although now there is a delay. But we should focus more on investing today to get profit next year during the bullish season.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Ricardo11 on September 21, 2024, 06:28:27 PM

I agree with you, those who hold bitcoin from 10 years ago are smart and lucky people because they have the right mindset and are now successful because they see the price of bitcoin is so expensive. I am not as smart and lucky as them because I came late and tried to invest to get profit even though the result is not as big as theirs.
I think it's better to forget about it, because 10 years ago when bitcoin was launched many people had concerns about buying and holding bitcoin, although now there is a delay. But we should focus more on investing today to get profit next year during the bullish season.
We must not dwell on the past, Focusing on the future, At present should be attracted towards investment. because ten years ago when Bitcoin was launched, we might not have known that Bitcoin would ever reach this stage, if we had known, we might have sold all our assets and invested in Bitcoin. would keep However, even if we try a thousand times now, that opportunity will not be found again, so right now we should use the opportunity that will come in the future, and to use that opportunity, we should be attracted to holding and continue investing and holding continuously. The best method of which is the DCA method, if you continue DCA regularly, it is definitely possible to get something good from Bitcoin investment.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: sampoerna on September 21, 2024, 11:05:13 PM
We must not dwell on the past, Focusing on the future, At present should be attracted towards investment. because ten years ago when Bitcoin was launched, we might not have known that Bitcoin would ever reach this stage, if we had known, we might have sold all our assets and invested in Bitcoin.
Yes, there is no point in blaming the past, or there is no point in saying that they were smart enough or otherwise very stupid. Because our focus is if we did not do it well in the past, then do it as well as possible in the present, because what we do in the present, will determine our future and make our future really according to expectations.

Because, however, not everyone understands Bitcoin and all its technology and developments at the beginning, so they do not immediately enter to invest or even hold. That's why it takes time to do it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 21, 2024, 11:16:48 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: rby on September 21, 2024, 11:59:27 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
I've read similar experiences like this your own from different people about how they failed to invest in Bitcoin when the price was relatively affordable. Well I can't say for sure that I would've done better than people like you who had the knowledge then but didn't believe in the project but I think my spirit of curiosity would've forced me try no matter how little. To some of us, we didn't have the experience 10 years ago but we're glad that we finally know about Bitcoin now unlike millions of people that are yet to learn about Bitcoin
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 22, 2024, 06:34:22 AM
We must not dwell on the past, Focusing on the future, At present should be attracted towards investment. because ten years ago when Bitcoin was launched, we might not have known that Bitcoin would ever reach this stage, if we had known, we might have sold all our assets and invested in Bitcoin.
Yes, there is no point in blaming the past, or there is no point in saying that they were smart enough or otherwise very stupid. Because our focus is if we did not do it well in the past, then do it as well as possible in the present, because what we do in the present, will determine our future and make our future really according to expectations.
gone are the days where bitcoin was still cheap and we could have bought 1 or 2 or maybe even 5 bitcoins easily i am sure for those who knew about bitcoin yet did not believe it regret it now but there’s nothing else to do but move forward and plan how we can hold 1 bitcoin at least
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Because, however, not everyone understands Bitcoin and all its technology and developments at the beginning, so they do not immediately enter to invest or even hold. That's why it takes time to do it.
now it is easier to believe bitcoin because it has been proven and tested but back then it was almost close to gambling depending if you had found out about bitcoin during its early stages now that we have solid proof of what bitcoin has done we are hoping it does the same in the future
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on September 26, 2024, 03:05:14 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
When 10 years ago we still had doubts, this is the same as what I experienced at that time and when we started to believe in bitcoin the price was getting higher, and maybe there was regret but we were still lucky because we had known crypto first and got benefits from crypto.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Lucius on September 26, 2024, 05:06:50 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.

But already during 2015, the price dropped significantly and 1 BTC could be bought for about $200, and even during 2016 the price was only $400. Even then, there was not nearly as much interest in BTC as it is today when it comes to mainstream media, and everything turned around in the second half and end of 2017. Let's not forget that even after the ATH of $20k the price dropped again to only $3000 and that everyone who talks about how they didn't know and didn't believe in BTC had plenty of opportunities to invest in BTC.

Let's put it this way - just a few years ago the price of 1 BTC was x10 lower than today (declaration of a pandemic 50% down - $5000), and before that a big correction from $20k to $3k in 2018. Perhaps we could conclude that some were not smart even 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: 36B on September 29, 2024, 09:24:41 AM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
When 10 years ago we still had doubts, this is the same as what I experienced at that time and when we started to believe in bitcoin the price was getting higher, and maybe there was regret but we were still lucky because we had known crypto first and got benefits from crypto.
I also have the same sentiment, when I started getting to understand Bitcoin and crypto about 10 years ago there was a lot of skepticism. Observing the growth and the rise of it’s price now, there is, of course, regret that did not invest more at the time. But we can at least be thankful because, at least, we have been introduced and engaged in the crypto world earlier to be able to learn and benefit from this tide.

For many people today, only starting to invest in the cryptocurrency market, it may seem that it is already too late, however, if we look at the history of cryptocurrencies, there is always an opportunity for profit, if, of course, we are patient and will continue to believe in technology and the key to the future. With each passing day the chances remain open for whoever is willing to take time and learn all about the crypto world.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: ajiz138 on September 29, 2024, 03:58:02 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
When 10 years ago we still had doubts, this is the same as what I experienced at that time and when we started to believe in bitcoin the price was getting higher, and maybe there was regret but we were still lucky because we had known crypto first and got benefits from crypto.
When something starts its journey, there will be many doubters, this is not only the case with bitcoin but with everything that exists, that is my view.

However, those who doubted 10 years ago or more and got rid of their doubts to get in and start investing in bitcoin is still a good thing, even though it is late it doesn't matter. Because I think in bitcoin there is no such thing as too late as long as we want to do it.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: milewilda on September 29, 2024, 07:04:18 PM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
When 10 years ago we still had doubts, this is the same as what I experienced at that time and when we started to believe in bitcoin the price was getting higher, and maybe there was regret but we were still lucky because we had known crypto first and got benefits from crypto.
When something starts its journey, there will be many doubters, this is not only the case with bitcoin but with everything that exists, that is my view.

However, those who doubted 10 years ago or more and got rid of their doubts to get in and start investing in bitcoin is still a good thing, even though it is late it doesn't matter. Because I think in bitcoin there is no such thing as too late as long as we want to do it.
Actually its just really that part of human instinct to have those doubts on the moment that they've been able to see or meet something that they havent been able to have or do before,
on which on the moment that they've seen its something new then having such engagement or interest could neither be that not present or spiked out and this will really be just that
depending on a certain individual since not all people would really be having such approach or reaction on the moment that they have seen something new.
Some would be wise but there would really be people will really be skeptical.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: pieppiep on October 02, 2024, 06:15:18 AM
not having any trust into bitcoin 10 years ago isn't really that shocking, I am one of those people who were around back then, and around those times bitcoin wasn't known this much and it didn't look like it would be this big. Remember, we are talking about 2014, when it was around 1000 dollars, so it wasn't like it was some few cents or dollars, it already peaked to four digits, and that meant that we didn't know it could go even higher and we thought it was way above what it should be back then. Of course we didn't (most of us) know it would become this giant thing and we were wrong.
When 10 years ago we still had doubts, this is the same as what I experienced at that time and when we started to believe in bitcoin the price was getting higher, and maybe there was regret but we were still lucky because we had known crypto first and got benefits from crypto.
When something starts its journey, there will be many doubters, this is not only the case with bitcoin but with everything that exists, that is my view.

However, those who doubted 10 years ago or more and got rid of their doubts to get in and start investing in bitcoin is still a good thing, even though it is late it doesn't matter. Because I think in bitcoin there is no such thing as too late as long as we want to do it.
Actually its just really that part of human instinct to have those doubts on the moment that they've been able to see or meet something that they havent been able to have or do before,
on which on the moment that they've seen its something new then having such engagement or interest could neither be that not present or spiked out and this will really be just that
depending on a certain individual since not all people would really be having such approach or reaction on the moment that they have seen something new.
Some would be wise but there would really be people will really be skeptical.
When a person is confronted with the situation never encountered before his or her response is a function of openness and exposure. We also find that there are those that are going to be interested instantly and will see it as a chance, and then there are those that will be interested but will need some information first. This attitude may change and on other times, skepticism may be felt, but the feeling is healthy in handling affairs that are not well explained. Adequate persons will always take their time to find out more about it before they venture into a new project and this is very safe.

Those who are able to take a chance, who like new things, are likely the same as the ones who will move fast, though fast may mean exposed. Direct experience is also an important learning experience to them, to the other it is self-protection. Each of the strategies has his strengths, and one should not forget about the weakness of each: one has to be active in searching for opportunities and one has to be careful and shy at the same time.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: KryptoBull on October 02, 2024, 08:08:23 AM
When a person is confronted with the situation never encountered before his or her response is a function of openness and exposure. We also find that there are those that are going to be interested instantly and will see it as a chance, and then there are those that will be interested but will need some information first. This attitude may change and on other times, skepticism may be felt, but the feeling is healthy in handling affairs that are not well explained. Adequate persons will always take their time to find out more about it before they venture into a new project and this is very safe.

Those who are able to take a chance, who like new things, are likely the same as the ones who will move fast, though fast may mean exposed. Direct experience is also an important learning experience to them, to the other it is self-protection. Each of the strategies has his strengths, and one should not forget about the weakness of each: one has to be active in searching for opportunities and one has to be careful and shy at the same time.
For a newly-minted internet asset, investor caution is common. Stocks of Amazon, Google, Meta, Snapchat, and others have all experienced similar phases in their history. BTC has only been around for 15 years, and a decade ago I didn't pay any attention to it. I even dismissed it as a joke and wouldn't invest even 100 USD in it.

While I regret my delay, I believe it was a normal reaction and within my control. I will continue to exercise caution when faced with promotional material about investment opportunities in new stocks, projects, or tokens in the financial market. Currently, I am still working remotely and receiving payment in BTC, which has opened up more opportunities for me. This is sufficient for me :)
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: ajiz138 on October 02, 2024, 04:49:01 PM
When something starts its journey, there will be many doubters, this is not only the case with bitcoin but with everything that exists, that is my view.

However, those who doubted 10 years ago or more and got rid of their doubts to get in and start investing in bitcoin is still a good thing, even though it is late it doesn't matter. Because I think in bitcoin there is no such thing as too late as long as we want to do it.
Actually its just really that part of human instinct to have those doubts on the moment that they've been able to see or meet something that they havent been able to have or do before,
on which on the moment that they've seen its something new then having such engagement or interest could neither be that not present or spiked out and this will really be just that
depending on a certain individual since not all people would really be having such approach or reaction on the moment that they have seen something new.
Some would be wise but there would really be people will really be skeptical.
Yes you are right it is human instinct to have doubts about something, we cannot possibly believe in something immediately, especially if it is something that has just been introduced, of course we will have many questions that can only be answered when everything has happened.

This is what we feel, maybe even some people here initially strongly rejected bitcoin, but over time they began to accept bitcoin and eventually made it their main investment.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 02, 2024, 11:36:34 PM
I don't blame anybody who didn't take Bitcoin seriously 10 years ago. If I had known about Bitcoin then, I would have done the same by even selling Bitcoin at its early stage out of ignorance and impatience. These are common attributes you will find in most human beings.

Some humans are not patient enough to trust the future of something they can't have control of, talk more of living their money in it for long without touching it, even when an important need for money arises.

It only takes someone to have a long plan for their money to withstand the urge to sell their Bitcoin at an early stage. Some of us are now planning to sell our Bitcoin by next year. What if Bitcoin doesn't decline in price again after many of us have sold at high prices? I know you will say it's a lie, it can't happen. Bitcoin will have a declining price because of 2027 bearish market
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: dekafee79 on October 03, 2024, 08:32:42 PM
I don't blame anybody who didn't take Bitcoin seriously 10 years ago. If I had known about Bitcoin then, I would have done the same by even selling Bitcoin at its early stage out of ignorance and impatience. These are common attributes you will find in most human beings.

Some humans are not patient enough to trust the future of something they can't have control of, talk more of living their money in it for long without touching it, even when an important need for money arises.

It only takes someone to have a long plan for their money to withstand the urge to sell their Bitcoin at an early stage. Some of us are now planning to sell our Bitcoin by next year. What if Bitcoin doesn't decline in price again after many of us have sold at high prices? I know you will say it's a lie, it can't happen. Bitcoin will have a declining price because of 2027 bearish market
I read a lot of regrets from people who didn't buy and hold bitcoin when it was first launched. I was also one of those who doubted bitcoin at that time. It's better to forget about the past and focus on the coins we use to invest now.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: rizqillah on October 03, 2024, 08:54:16 PM
I don't blame anybody who didn't take Bitcoin seriously 10 years ago. If I had known about Bitcoin then, I would have done the same by even selling Bitcoin at its early stage out of ignorance and impatience. These are common attributes you will find in most human beings.

Some humans are not patient enough to trust the future of something they can't have control of, talk more of living their money in it for long without touching it, even when an important need for money arises.

It only takes someone to have a long plan for their money to withstand the urge to sell their Bitcoin at an early stage. Some of us are now planning to sell our Bitcoin by next year. What if Bitcoin doesn't decline in price again after many of us have sold at high prices? I know you will say it's a lie, it can't happen. Bitcoin will have a declining price because of 2027 bearish market
I read a lot of regrets from people who didn't buy and hold bitcoin when it was first launched. I was also one of those who doubted bitcoin at that time. It's better to forget about the past and focus on the coins we use to invest now.
Actually I have also sold my cheap bitcoin in the past, I really need money at that time so I don't regret it. Because I can still buy again in the following month and benefit from Bitcoin. When Bitcoin was launched, it was cheap and I had time to buy it even though I did not hold it until now, but I was grateful for getting a profit in a few years later.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: 36B on October 04, 2024, 04:59:24 AM
I don't blame anybody who didn't take Bitcoin seriously 10 years ago. If I had known about Bitcoin then, I would have done the same by even selling Bitcoin at its early stage out of ignorance and impatience. These are common attributes you will find in most human beings.

Some humans are not patient enough to trust the future of something they can't have control of, talk more of living their money in it for long without touching it, even when an important need for money arises.

It only takes someone to have a long plan for their money to withstand the urge to sell their Bitcoin at an early stage. Some of us are now planning to sell our Bitcoin by next year. What if Bitcoin doesn't decline in price again after many of us have sold at high prices? I know you will say it's a lie, it can't happen. Bitcoin will have a declining price because of 2027 bearish market
I read a lot of regrets from people who didn't buy and hold bitcoin when it was first launched. I was also one of those who doubted bitcoin at that time. It's better to forget about the past and focus on the coins we use to invest now.
Actually I have also sold my cheap bitcoin in the past, I really need money at that time so I don't regret it. Because I can still buy again in the following month and benefit from Bitcoin. When Bitcoin was launched, it was cheap and I had time to buy it even though I did not hold it until now, but I was grateful for getting a profit in a few years later.
Well, that was a smart thing to do given that you were in such a position then. But there are the situations when the urgent needs come first, and the main thing here is that you will receive the rewards in bitcoins some time later. The fact that one does not hold all their bitcoins from the beginning is not necessarily bad, betting in and taking advantage of opportunities show good understanding of how to play the cryptographic surface. After all, it is not imperative to always keep long term investments, as long as we are wise when grabbing what comes later on.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Parzival204 on October 04, 2024, 08:42:27 AM
of course people who didn't believe or were still doubtful about investing in crypto in the past will regret it now. because the price of BTC has almost touched $70k. But apart from that, all of this is based on doubt because they think about investing in a project that is not yet clear whether it will bring profits. or loss. And of course this profit was only obtained by lucky people in the past
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: MRY on October 05, 2024, 06:46:25 PM
of course people who didn't believe or were still doubtful about investing in crypto in the past will regret it now. because the price of BTC has almost touched $70k. But apart from that, all of this is based on doubt because they think about investing in a project that is not yet clear whether it will bring profits. or loss. And of course this profit was only obtained by lucky people in the past
When BTC prices reach this high, regrets can creep in. The decision not to invest is often based on legitimate doubts, especially when dealing with projects that have not been clearly proven to be profitable. Digital assets like crypto were initially viewed as speculative, so it is natural that many people chose to wait and see the results. In the end, the big profits seen now were felt more by those who dared to take risks early, even though at that time there was no guarantee of success.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Rami on October 05, 2024, 07:34:18 PM
Great point! It’s a classic case of "the early bird gets the Bitcoin!" Sometimes the loudest voices aren’t the ones to follow, especially when it comes to emerging technologies. It’s all about keeping an open mind and doing your own research. Kudos to you for listening to the right crowd back in 2014! Here’s to trusting your instincts and staying ahead of the curve! 🚀
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Rubel007 on October 06, 2024, 07:53:50 AM
of course people who didn't believe or were still doubtful about investing in crypto in the past will regret it now. because the price of BTC has almost touched $70k. But apart from that, all of this is based on doubt because they think about investing in a project that is not yet clear whether it will bring profits. or loss. And of course this profit was only obtained by lucky people in the past
Everyone who was lucky took risks. Their risk was higher because they were early investors. They never imagined that Bitcoin could be 70 thousand dollars. But today's investors can understand that Bitcoin will be 1 million and will continue to grow in the future. But there are still some investors who will not buy Bitcoin and will regret it again at some point when the price rises. If you want to get rid of this situation, buying bitcoins according to your own ability and holding them for a long time is the right decision.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on October 06, 2024, 11:27:52 AM
         -      People are like that, aren't they? They will laugh at you for things that are impossible to happen in their eyes and opinion. But his prediction of 10,000$ actually happened and was even exceeded in 2017 because bitcoin's ATH was more than 20,000$ per bitcoin.

Then now each bitcoin is around 61000$+, where most people expect it to reach 100k$ each bitcoin at the beginning of its bitcoin rally, which others think and expect that it may happen next year.
Title: Re: Some people were smart 10 years ago, some were not...
Post by: KingsDen on October 06, 2024, 11:56:12 PM

I have high respect for wealthy men who worked their ways out to the top. But I do not regard them as gods of information to success, especially when it doesn't relate to their field.
We shouldn't take any advice from a wealthy grocery store owner over a crypto investor in the industry. They are only experts in their various fields and for the fact that BTC was relatively new, the technology was totally new to them and that is why many of them made wrong predictions. Information is power and shouldn't be disregarded.