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Wider Crypto World => Gambling & Crypto Casinos => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Rruchi man on June 29, 2024, 11:39:31 PM
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Even as a responsible gambler you may not be taken seriously if you advice another fellow gambler who is having problems and slowly becoming an addict to stop gambling completely.
This is why I put forward this advice that before you advise someone to quit gambling as a gambler you have to hide your gambling activities from them so it doesn't look like you are advising them to do something that you yourself cannot do.
If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income you can help them to find other more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.
What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
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Yes, they will think we are making a joke when we give them advice about gambling, even though we ourselves are doing the same activity. Even though they may be able to get advice from anywhere, what matters is that it is the right thing.
but the problem is, they might even turn to dislike us because they think we are sanctimonious, even though we ourselves gamble like them. This is a challenge in itself in my opinion.
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Any gambler that is an addict because he is using gambling as a means of income is lazy and if you advice him to quit gambling when he knows that you are gambling is like you are mocking him. Looking for a job for them is good and if you gamble in secrete without allowing them to know, one day he will find out. If some gamblers see that you are insisting too much, they might run away from you and keep you an enemy because he believes he is not an addict and can hit the jackpot in no time. Only professionals know how to handle this.
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Yes, they will think we are making a joke when we give them advice about gambling, even though we ourselves are doing the same activity. Even though they may be able to get advice from anywhere, what matters is that it is the right thing.
but the problem is, they might even turn to dislike us because they think we are sanctimonious, even though we ourselves gamble like them. This is a challenge in itself in my opinion.
Things might turn like that and most of the time this is quite common where they won't absorb what we have given advice to these kind of people but it's all good as long as we do our part. But on this part I will only do it once if they still insist to do it I don't give a fvck anymore as I don't want to waste my time to people who do not appreciate what we are doing.
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Yes, they will think we are making a joke when we give them advice about gambling, even though we ourselves are doing the same activity. Even though they may be able to get advice from anywhere, what matters is that it is the right thing.
but the problem is, they might even turn to dislike us because they think we are sanctimonious, even though we ourselves gamble like them. This is a challenge in itself in my opinion.
Things might turn like that and most of the time this is quite common where they won't absorb what we have given advice to these kind of people but it's all good as long as we do our part. But on this part I will only do it once if they still insist to do it I don't give a fvck anymore as I don't want to waste my time to people who do not appreciate what we are doing.
it always sounds like a joke when it comes from a stranger from the internet. and its written compared to when you listen to it. but if you care so much about the lives of the gamblers i guess that's the least you can do giving advice despite you yourself couldn't keep up.
from what i learn from a friend who is a complete failure in being a gambler, its best to learn from those gamblers and listen to their experience because it taught them the best lesson in life. don;t get addicted or you'll end up like them after they lose everything. failed marriage, not liked by the family and above all homeless.
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If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income you can help them to find other more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.
What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Advice and sending him reliable articles and videos about the negative effects of gambling will help newbies from falling into addiction. Still, of course, the constant monitor is a must so he will not get astray as soon as you see him spending more money and a long time in gambling, that is the time to give him another warning.
Some gamblers do not know that they are deep in gambling until someone warns them or reminds them the harmful effects of gambling.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
None! There are millions who try their hard to quit gambling and they can't!
Unless they end up in a situation that is really bad and at this point, they have some sort of life-changing experience, usually bad stuff like going to prison or family leaving them losing their home nothing solves the problem.
I know people who have gone to every website and asked to be put on the list, did the same for the casinos, entered the self-exclusion list so they are banned from playing there, did everything they could and yet they still relapse end end up gambling.
That's why we have so many gambling addicts, and so many tragedies because there is nothing simple about giving up once you're truly addicted and not just a casual player!
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You know one thing about gambling addiction is that, the victims involved already know that they're already addicted and that the impact is disastrous to them, they're fully aware of this fact, but where the problem is, is how to stop or prevent themselves from gambling, and it'll take more than just trying to talk them out of it, whether they view you to be a gambler or not, because a lot of these addicted gamblers gets advises from their familiws and close relatives who are not even gamblers, but yet they still find it hard to break through.
I think it'll take a lot more practical and effective approach to dissuade and truly compell an addict to through from this act.
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If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income you can help them to find other more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.
A person who is good in making an income out of gambling should not be disturbed in anyway as long as he is fine with it and is not showing some self-destructive behavior. Of course, the problem is that it is seldom we can find people who are really genius when it comes to gambling as gamblers got a lot more chances of losing than winning. So what can be some practical tips to help addictive gamblers? I would say that the person first has to decide if he has already analyzed his situation as there is no point helping someone who is still in denial. Then he must seek help from understanding family members of friends even just someone whom he can talk to and this is for support as no one can face this problem alone. Another good idea is to look for groups within the community or near the community who are helping addicts cope with their individual situations and burden. Then some professional help can also play a lot of role here. Now, with our suggestions, the best thing to do actually is to never get involved with gambling in the first place...prevention is always better than cure all the time.
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Now, with our suggestions, the best thing to do actually is to never get involved with gambling in the first place...prevention is always better than cure all the time.
Gambling itself as an activity isn't harmful to anyone who's involved in it, the only thing that can be harmful is how person perceives and approaches gambling, his expectations of it also plays a very vital role too.
I really like one the points that the OP stated in the thread, about assisting the victim with a source of income if you notice that the victim's perception of gambling is a source of income, because what causes most addiction cases is mostly because they view gambling as a source of income rather than an activity for fun and recreation.
Just as you've rightly stated, the victim must first come to the realization and acceptance of the fact that he is suffering from gambling problems and needs help, then you can help the person sort for a better source of income to remove his attention from gambling as a way of earning money.
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Yes, they will think we are making a joke when we give them advice about gambling, even though we ourselves are doing the same activity. Even though they may be able to get advice from anywhere, what matters is that it is the right thing.
but the problem is, they might even turn to dislike us because they think we are sanctimonious, even though we ourselves gamble like them. This is a challenge in itself in my opinion.
Things might turn like that and most of the time this is quite common where they won't absorb what we have given advice to these kind of people but it's all good as long as we do our part. But on this part I will only do it once if they still insist to do it I don't give a fvck anymore as I don't want to waste my time to people who do not appreciate what we are doing.
In fact, even if they have to go bankrupt because of gambling, it has nothing to do with us, and we may not care what happens to them.
But here our sense of humanity will definitely grow, and we do that because we care if something undesirable happens. Their responses will vary and that is where we have to be prepared for the negative responses they give. If the situation no longer allows it, then we stop doing it because we have done it before but their response is what makes us have to stop.
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I used to be a total gambler(but not addicted i believe) so yeah i really hate listening to people who will just tell me to stop gambling
because for me its easy for them to say but harder for us to act .
Realization is what gamblers need to achieve so they will decide on their own , like what most of the quitter does like me , My family and friends did the best way in telling me how important money is and why should I must spend them in real manner than just losing in gambling.
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Yes, they will think we are making a joke when we give them advice about gambling, even though we ourselves are doing the same activity. Even though they may be able to get advice from anywhere, what matters is that it is the right thing.
but the problem is, they might even turn to dislike us because they think we are sanctimonious, even though we ourselves gamble like them. This is a challenge in itself in my opinion.
Things might turn like that and most of the time this is quite common where they won't absorb what we have given advice to these kind of people but it's all good as long as we do our part. But on this part I will only do it once if they still insist to do it I don't give a fvck anymore as I don't want to waste my time to people who do not appreciate what we are doing.
In fact, even if they have to go bankrupt because of gambling, it has nothing to do with us, and we may not care what happens to them.
But here our sense of humanity will definitely grow, and we do that because we care if something undesirable happens. Their responses will vary and that is where we have to be prepared for the negative responses they give. If the situation no longer allows it, then we stop doing it because we have done it before but their response is what makes us have to stop.
I agree, it is not worth it to give an advice to people who don't try to listen to us as it was just a waste of time for us. I actually did this thing with my friends but unfortunately it's not working since they still insist they can manage addiction on their own and yeah mostly they just don't give a damn fvck though few will appreciate our effort but for some it's just nothing.
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If you have seen someone who is addicted and don't know what to do in other to stop that, then try as much as possible to avoid them having full access to gambling and also limit the amount of fund available for them to be used for the purpose of gambling, it is only when we are having money to use for betting before gambling can take place, we are the ones to help ourselves before others could do so.
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At times we all knows when do the wrong things while we don't at times.
There are actually gamblers with conscience ness who can actually figure their wrong ways in gambling and knowing that it is not a good habit, they would not want their relatives to also do with it but yet they can not help themselves to keep off from it.
So if you are to advice a relative on his gambling addiction, you don't have to hide your identity as a gambler but hide that irresponsible one of you and then advice him like you are a responsible gambler and that is why you are able to figure out how wrongs on gambling and then he might want to emulate those good part of you.
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A small advice I would give is not to keep balance on the gambling platform for the next time. Finished gambling, withdraw your balance and make an deposit when you want to play. Those cents that you will spend on transaction fees is nothing compared to lust to return and make one more bet, even a small one. If gambler keep his balance on the platform, no matter how he can control himself, he will keep on gambling.
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In fact, even if they have to go bankrupt because of gambling, it has nothing to do with us, and we may not care what happens to them.
But here our sense of humanity will definitely grow, and we do that because we care if something undesirable happens. Their responses will vary and that is where we have to be prepared for the negative responses they give. If the situation no longer allows it, then we stop doing it because we have done it before but their response is what makes us have to stop.
I agree, it is not worth it to give an advice to people who don't try to listen to us as it was just a waste of time for us. I actually did this thing with my friends but unfortunately it's not working since they still insist they can manage addiction on their own and yeah mostly they just don't give a damn fvck though few will appreciate our effort but for some it's just nothing.
The most important thing is that we have given them the advice they should. It is their right to respond positively or otherwise.
What I experience is when they come back with regret because they didn't listen to what I said first, so they become addicted which makes them have to feel something complicated. Indeed, they will realize it when they feel it themselves and that is something that I often experience.
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I personally don't find it practical to hide your activities just to try to help someone. It sounds too much for me because the goal is teaching him how to be a responsible at gambling and not to stop it completely.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Rather using mere words and advice to try to talk and addict out of his habit, I think there are way more practical methods to use, because I don't believe talking is to the person and trying to convince him or make him see how harmful gambling addiction is isn't practical enough/at all because when a person is addicted, I believe he already knows that it has negative effects on him so reminding him what he already knows wouldn't be so much good and idea in helping him break free from the addiction.
Rather than using the talking method, you can try other things, but first the person in question must first realize how much he needs the help you're trying to offer to him before he can be able to comply with you to help him, because there's no way you can help a person change from a habit when the person in question doesn't even see anything wrong in what he's doing, you'll simply be talking on dead ears or trying to communicate with a blind man using sign language.
There was a story I heard about an addicted fellow who's relatives took the bold step of going to every gambling outlets and casinos to blacklist the fellow's name so he can never access any of their services, online or offline, I think this is a more practical way to help such a person.
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There was a story I heard about an addicted fellow who's relatives took the bold step of going to every gambling outlets and casinos to blacklist the fellow's name so he can never access any of their services, online or offline, I think this is a more practical way to help such a person.
They probably never heard that online nobody ask KYC before making a deposit, or people might use fake identities for verification. As well as dont realize how fast online gambling market develops.
I agree that only talks dont work. A addicted person must wish to stop his addiction himself. Otherwise it is no use even trying. We cant name the exact method to help addicted, we must use a combination of methods and hope that they will work. Imo first step in fighting gambling addiction is change of interest. Gambling addiction should be replaced with a passion to something else.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Not to castigate them about their gambling addictions. Show them love and encourage them, that they can really stay off gambling if they mean to by budgeting less amounts for gambling, developing hobbies for something else that can fill up their chances of gambling, and avoiding environments where gambling houses are located.
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An addicted gambler is very different from ordinary gamblers. Addicted gambler, he will become very stressed when he stops playing, yes, like other addictions, it will be very painful when he suddenly stops. Because of this, addicted gamblers will usually do anything so that they can continue competing, whatever they do. Whether it is by entertaining money, pawning or selling goods, or something else.
That's a very different situation from ordinary gamblers. because addicted gamblers can't control their emotions and desire to play and stop, they don't know when to stop and how to control themselves so they don't do it again, they can't. So, they really have to be streamed by professionals and have to get extraordinary support from the family. Because if not, it will be quite difficult to end.
Yes, indeed, on the internet we can read various ways to stop addiction in gambling.
Like this:
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gambling-how-to-change-your-habits
https://www.gatewayfoundation.org/addiction-blog/how-to-stop-gambling/
However, without direct professional help and without support from the people around him, it will be very difficult to do and be successful.
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Even as a responsible gambler you may not be taken seriously if you advice another fellow gambler who is having problems and slowly becoming an addict to stop gambling completely.
This is why I put forward this advice that before you advise someone to quit gambling as a gambler you have to hide your gambling activities from them so it doesn't look like you are advising them to do something that you yourself cannot do.
If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income you can help them to find other more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.
What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
If a gambler is in a state of addiction then it is imperative to get help. That gambler should be given a form of gambling. And it is important to give him proper knowledge about the potential harm if he becomes addicted. However, sometimes a gambler's advice may not be to the liking of another gambler, so it is certainly not a bad thing for that gambler to have some things hidden there.
There are many new gamblers who consider gambling as a source of income but they must correct their misconceptions otherwise they may face big losses. My personal advice is that if there is a source of income and the ability to lose money then gambling with a limit is not likely to cause too much trouble.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Not to castigate them about their gambling addictions. Show them love and encourage them, that they can really stay off gambling if they mean to by budgeting less amounts for gambling, developing hobbies for something else that can fill up their chances of gambling, and avoiding environments where gambling houses are located.
Showing them love may not always speed up their healing process. When you pamper a gambler when you should be scolding him, he may believe that he is doing the right thing. Without a doubt, love is important, but it is better to introduce him to an expert who can assist him in overcoming his addiction.
Addiction, in whatever form it takes, cannot be overcome quickly, so when helping the addict, it is critical to expose him to a variety of activities that can serve as a distraction so that he does not preoccupy his mind with gambling-related activities, as you noted.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Gambling addiction is one of the bad habits in our society and has a negative impact on it. It not only makes the life of a single individual hell but also creates a headache for the whole society.
For its betterment, I think we should just find the root cause of it. We should understand the reason behind it, for what purpose he gets involved so much. If he gambles only for joy, then we can introduce him to some other alternatives. The same is the case with finances; if he does it for money, then we can help him find some other source of income.
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If the adviser is a successful gambler and he is not gambling then it will be hard for him to convince another addicting gambler but if he is not a successful gambler then he con also use his status to tell him that I have been gambling since but this how I have found myself and do you want to be like this and definitely the person would say no there " you have to leave gambling" and look for something else to do with your stipend. Gambling has only helped few out from poverty out of thousands that are playing daily. And your money is use to enrich the other rich gambler. Just a word is discouragement is okay.
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We should try as much as possible to exclude or limit the rate of having exposure to gambling when addicted is showing up, it may not be an easy task to achieve doing but we need to know this that there are many things in which we must put into consideration whenever we are trying to work against being addicted, we have to reduce what lead to frequent exposure to gambling.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Advising a fellow gambler is a hard task to do as we as a gambler in itself is struggling to be a responsible gambler. All i could say is that we should be vigilant in ourselves and see to it that we only gamble the money that is allocated to gambling and not to go beyond that.
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If you also notice that these people are gambling as a source of income you can help them to find other more reliable sources of income while advising them that gambling is not a source of income so that they no longer see gambling in that light.
This is doable, but it will be hard for a gambler to find another source of income especially if they know that they're making money off of it.
I know that gambling isn't a source of income since you have a high chance of losing your money, but I believe there are some who are making money from it, and if you will convince them to find another job, they'll just ignore you because they believe they can, and they can sustain it.
What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Realization.
Making them realize that spending too much time in gambling is wrong. Making them realize that spending lots of money on gambling may affect themselves. Making them realize that spending too much money on it can affect your relationship to those people who are close to you. This is hard, but making them realize is for me, the best option excluding help from professionals.
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What other practical methods can we use to help addicted gamblers become better asides professional help?
Advising a fellow gambler is a hard task to do as we as a gambler in itself is struggling to be a responsible gambler. All i could say is that we should be vigilant in ourselves and see to it that we only gamble the money that is allocated to gambling and not to go beyond that.
You have said the truth. Every gambler survives in gambling and faces various challenges to keep themselves within a limit. It's hard to advise any other gambler. And if any advice is given which the gambler cannot follow himself then his advice has no logic. But a gambler, whether addicted or not, can save himself from gambling losses if he gambles within his limits and refrains from overindulgence.
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I base myself on something simple and basic, a person who is addicted should be invited to do a physical activity, for example play Soccer, go for a walk or do something like ride a bike, but for a long time, the fact that a person gets tired does not give him time to think or want to play in a game , because his body will be tired and will only want to rest, if the sport is not pleasant you have to look for another that is or that has a similar effect, for example swimming, it is good, it strengthens the whole body and lungs, which means that it is also exhausting, the idea is that he does an activity that tires him out and does not give him time to think about playing, I think that works.
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Gambling addiction is one of the bad habits in our society and has a negative impact on it. It not only makes the life of a single individual hell but also creates a headache for the whole society.
Exactly, this is addiction. So, when it comes to handling it, this requires a professional/expert in their field. Just like drugs or anything else, once you have truly entered addiction, it will be very difficult for someone to succeed and not relapse again if they just stay at home and hope for change. Big NO.
There have been several cases around us regarding how a addicted gambler is really troublesome, causing family, relatives and even the community around him and making the condition even worse. Meanwhile, as long as he has not truly learned his lesson or received treatment from a specialist and received definite and sustainable rehabilitation and treatment, it will be very difficult to change.
Even when you have carried out the treatment with an expert or specialist, it will take a long time to change.
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But a gambler, whether addicted or not, can save himself from gambling losses if he gambles within his limits and refrains from overindulgence.
Gambling within a limit does not imply that a gambler does not lose money, but rather that the loss is not likely to bother him or cause him to exhibit obnoxious behavior because it is an amount the gambler can afford to lose. The only certainty in gambling is that you will lose. Losing is common, but winning is uncommon. This explains why when people hear about a win, they are motivated to gamble. This exemplifies the uncommon nature of winning.