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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: Crypto Library on July 13, 2024, 10:29:24 PM
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I think I'm a little too late to ask the question. Last month I received a business mail offer from obtainhigh (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=98943)that they are interested in my campaign management service. But after entering their website and knowing a little details about their service, I felt that it is not legal everywhere in the world as like our cryptocurrency, even then I could interested in selling my service to them but it provides drug-related services, so I left back their offer. Now I want to know if their service is legal or against the rules of our forum.
ObtainHigh . com
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I'm not sure if advertising of that kind of service is allowed here or not but from ethical point of view one should try to avoid advertising such services.
They're selling illegal drugs and promoting a service like that should be avoided even if they're willing to pay $3000 per month t a campaign manager.
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I don't know anything about that service, but if you say they are into anything illegal, then it would be unacceptable in the forum, there is no way the forum will knowingly allow a service that sells illegal product to advertise here, that is putting the entire forum at risk. Illegal stuff such as that is marketed in the dark web and not here.
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Promoting the product in the forum or other platforms is tricky because it could be illegal in your area but legal in another country. I think the admin would also say you should err on the side of caution. You never really know who might see the advertisement and you could in trouble for that.
Were you offering your campaign services somewhere before they sent you a message?
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What type of drugs, if it illicit drugs, this are countra band and should be avoided unless you want to run into troubles along the line, most services may not be openly prohibited, but then our moral abiligation to our society will definitely not allow us to engage in such a service regardless of how much they have to offer.
Some of those companies thinks that everything crypto is associated with dark world which allows anything in there space, well this is a forum that is law abiding and for sure engaging is any illegal deals is not part of the ethics of the forum, and members always stay away from such a service.
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There's no mentioned rule about it on the forum rules, so i could think its allowed here. There are lot of misconception of using cannabis, some consider it as medication some for recreation, anything that is too much is abusing and not good. Only shitty government bans it who does not know how to regulate it.
Its better to invite admin and other mods here directly to ask if this is allowed here.
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You guys really think that a drug platform "might be OK to promote" on this forum?
If this was on Bitcointalk the profile would be insta-banned.
After all the mixers came here, the last thing the staff should want is law enforcement sending a warrant for people's IP and PM data here.
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If this was on Bitcointalk the profile would be insta-banned.
They did try to promote[1] it at Bitcointalk and instantly the thread was deleted after being discovered what it was about - but the profile still hasn’t been banned though (my guess is that they gave them a temp ban for now).
[1] https://ninjastic.space/post/64298546
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Have anyone checked their statement on the website?
Customer Responsibility: It is imperative that you verify whether the products you order are legal in your jurisdiction. Obtain High will fulfill all paid orders without consideration of local statutory limitations. Please ensure compliance with your local laws to prevent any legal discrepancies.
It sounds risky when they don't check whether their goods is legal on the shipping destination.
If this was on Bitcointalk the profile would be insta-banned.
They did try to promote[1] it at Bitcointalk and instantly the thread was deleted after being discovered what it was about - but the profile still hasn’t been banned though (my guess is that they gave them a temp ban for now).
[1] https://ninjastic.space/post/64298546
Yeah, in addition i had to write detailed explanation why their thread contain false information before moderator decide to delete it[1-2]. Some member also suspect this member use AI to write the thread.
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg64298906#msg64298906
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482297.msg64302809#msg64302809
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If we assume that you are allowed to advertise the service, there will be few reports to Cloudflare and the domain will be closed, so either the dark web services will exist or they will not continue for a long time.
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Although as already said in this thread, in the forum rules there is nothing for or against this type of projects, the truth is that each user has their own idea about the morality that cannabis-related products entail. The legislation on this type of products is different in each country, and personally I believe that there is no problem because the project has a presence in the forum, beyond the personal opinions of each user.
That being said, once again, the final decision lies with the administrator as the owner of the forum.
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Some states in the US, Like California, made this shit legal, and based on that they are not selling anything illegal.
Problem can happen with their international shipping, different countries have different laws and they can confiscate package and make trouble for buyer.
As for AltcoinsTalks forum, it's better to to ask admin about any potential advertisement first.
International Orders: Our services are global, reaching customers around the world. We advise international customers to be especially aware of their local import and customs regulations to ensure smooth delivery.
https://www.obtainhigh.com/delivery-information/
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I checked the site and like the op said, the business is about drugs, weed and all manner of high concentrated drug drinks, this is something that is illegal to ship around in some countries, like here in Nigeria, if I should buy any of those stuff and have it shipped to me here, the item will definitely get seized by custom authorities, and they are sure going to get me arrested and possibly jailed as a drug dealer.
So, this is not something that should be advertised anyhow, specially on a global forum like this, depending on the country where this forum is registered, allowing advertisement of such substances can cause problem for this forum if authorities come to the knowledge that such is being advertised here.
But then, admin knows the forum better than any of us here, so, the Last and final decision is always up to him.
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So, this is not something that should be advertised anyhow, specially on a global forum like this, depending on the country where this forum is registered, allowing advertisement of such substances can cause problem for this forum if authorities come to the knowledge that such is being advertised here.
But then, admin knows the forum better than any of us here, so, the Last and final decision is always up to him.
These are the kind of products that are advertised on darknet forums... I have personally seen them myself.
It is not a good idea for clearnet forums to advertise them, because when such services inevitably get taken down by law enforcement, the Google search links going back to said forum could land them in serious trouble.That's why it's not recommended.
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And what's next, arms sales? Special expedition services for "dakrnet" items? This will be a forum with a complete advertising for the resources of illegal activities, from payment systems to delivery. ;D
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I think I'm a little too late to ask the question. Last month I received a business mail offer from obtainhigh (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=98943)that they are interested in my campaign management service.
I will just say that it is very easy to make money in the darknet or other illegal stuff.
But you should avoid for your security in real life.
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And what's next, arms sales? Special expedition services for "dakrnet" items? This will be a forum with a complete advertising for the resources of illegal activities, from payment systems to delivery. ;D
FYI, adult US citizen legally can buy gun in US. And AFAIK organ sales (usually kidney) is still legal on Iran. So far admin haven't reply to this thread, but i wonder how many member comfortable looking at such website in this forum.
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I want a forum where only goods and services that are universally accepted are advertised;
Admin should create a thread stating services that are allowed to advertise here if such a thread doesn't exist yet.
We should avoid services that will make here look like dark web.
And AFAIK organ sales (usually kidney) is still legal on Iran.
Getting to know this now. This is crazy... Mehn! This will encourage murder, how do they manage it? Save you can only sell kidney belonging to you...
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I want a forum where only goods and services that are universally accepted are advertised;
Admin should create a thread stating services that are allowed to advertise here if such a thread doesn't exist yet.
We should avoid services that will make here look like dark web.
What you say is difficult to achieve, and I say difficult if not impossible. Each country, with its totally different legislation (except in some cases in the European Union and maybe other areas of the world) has more or less tolerance to certain types of substances, and what may be illegal for different reasons in one country, may be completely legal in another. Therefore, the "universal unification" you refer to cannot be carried out.
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I don't think the forum will ban it but as a responsible and reputable member in the forum here and there, you should not involve in it. Pornography was also advised in BTT and people advertise it. If the project comes here manager will still take the work and advertise it but what about their real life situation. Drug trafficking and dealing is a lucrative business people involved and make money from it but the laws in the world against it. And I don't advise anyone to market it.
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This kind of product is restricted on many platforms to be advertised, so if we allow this, we will have many similar products going here to advertise since they have a platform that is open to advertise here, For all we know, this forum will end up full of banners and on every member's signature space about this product, and its not even cryptocurrency-related.
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If we assume that you are allowed to advertise the service, there will be few reports to Cloudflare and the domain will be closed, so either the dark web services will exist or they will not continue for a long time.
Yeah wanted to suggest dark net for such advertisements, because that is the only place this kind of service can be allowed and just as the name implies, dark net it a market place for illegal products and services.
But this is a forum and at that we have to operate within the acceptable laws, and any bringe of such rules can lead to licence revocation or even bringing down the website totally, so this should be avoided.
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Yeah wanted to suggest dark net for such advertisements, because that is the only place this kind of service can be allowed and just as the name implies, dark net it a market place for illegal products and services.
But this is a forum and at that we have to operate within the acceptable laws, and any bringe of such rules can lead to licence revocation or even bringing down the website totally, so this should be avoided.
The administrator has not said anything about it, from what I understand that there should not be any legal problem, another thing very different is the morality of each user. As I said, each country has different legislation and laws for this type of things, so what applies in one country cannot be applied in another.
Even so, and as I see that this topic continues to generate controversy, I will talk about it with the administrator so that he can tell us what he thinks and whether it may finally be problematic for the forum or not.
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I think I'm a little too late to ask the question. Last month I received a business mail offer from obtainhigh (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=98943)that they are interested in my campaign management service. But after entering their website and knowing a little details about their service, I felt that it is not legal everywhere in the world as like our cryptocurrency, even then I could interested in selling my service to them but it provides drug-related services, so I left back their offer. Now I want to know if their service is legal or against the rules of our forum.
ObtainHigh . com
If the service is allowed in the forum, will you as a manager, be happy that you are helping drugs and other illegal things spread and become more accessible to others?
Everything should not be about money for any campaign manager, reputation should matter as well.
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Yeah wanted to suggest dark net for such advertisements, because that is the only place this kind of service can be allowed and just as the name implies, dark net it a market place for illegal products and services.
But this is a forum and at that we have to operate within the acceptable laws, and any bringe of such rules can lead to licence revocation or even bringing down the website totally, so this should be avoided.
The administrator has not said anything about it, from what I understand that there should not be any legal problem, another thing very different is the morality of each user. As I said, each country has different legislation and laws for this type of things, so what applies in one country cannot be applied in another.
Even so, and as I see that this topic continues to generate controversy, I will talk about it with the administrator so that he can tell us what he thinks and whether it may finally be problematic for the forum or not.
Thank for taking the effort to talk with the admin about what the forum rules stands in cases like this so that it will give us clarity of point as for what services are allowed, but even at that, I am sure the admin stance won't be different from that of many of us here, since when talking about morality it always viewed on a global level and not jurisdictions.
Cause no country or religion permits the sell of illegal drugs that can harm the life of others, so his stance will not be different in this case, but just as you said, let wait to know the admin stance on this subject matter.
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If the service is allowed in the forum, will you as a manager, be happy that you are helping drugs and other illegal things spread and become more accessible to others?
Everything should not be about money for any campaign manager, reputation should matter as well.
You are already seeing the result I as a manager did not give any positive reply to their business deal even though it is not illegal in the forum. Because I can't see it well from the point of view of my morals and as well as my culture.
And I will support you now, it is better not to run for money all the time, maybe if I had promoted them, I would not have had the reputation I have so far.
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If the service is allowed in the forum, will you as a manager, be happy that you are helping drugs and other illegal things spread and become more accessible to others?
Everything should not be about money for any campaign manager, reputation should matter as well.
Cannabis is less harmful than tobacco. This isn’t crystal meth they’re selling. I personally have no objection from a moral perspective allowing them to advertise, but from a legal perspective I can see where this may become a problem down the road. Recreational use of cannabis may be legal in California but it is also highly regulated and you can only sell to ID verified customers in your own state. Obtain High does not appear to be a legally certified dispensary and the admins have to consider the risks involved if they allow them to promote on here.