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Title: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gposas on July 21, 2024, 07:06:28 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Crwth on July 21, 2024, 07:26:50 PM
I think there are different advantages that new coins and already listed coins offer but it’s important to know that there is always risk when it comes to investing.

It would be dependent on what would be my risk Appetite if I am riskier, I would go with the presale and hope that it would reach a higher price and then maybe sell it for profit. If I like, I would in the listed coin already in a respected and verified exchange.

That would be my take on it.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 21, 2024, 07:40:44 PM
Presale is very risky. Some presale are scam. Some are bump and dump. There are many that are not even pump and dump but only list and start dump as they will not increase in price at all. Some can dump as low as 20 times of the listing price.

You can invest in altcoins and not see the return on interest that you wished for. You can see them all like filecoin, BCH, ripple and many of them that are old already that did not pump much this time. People focus on new projects which are also very risky.

Invest the amount of money that you can afford to lose on both.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: armanda90 on July 21, 2024, 07:41:21 PM
During pre sale become most popular and hype, many coins potential earn much profitable more above 100% to 500% after listing on the market. Its worth much profitable when investing in pre sale than invest with coins already listed on the exchange market. But almost one year ago, most of pre sale are scam with not trusted owner after their project pre sale sold out then run away make their coins become scam without listing yet on the market.
Looking how many pre sale project easily become scam, right now better invest with coins already on the market than joining with pre sale have long term period before listing on the market and worth it around x2 profitable earn.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: EluguHcman on July 21, 2024, 07:42:51 PM
Investors actually Invest their funds in clear opportunities proving potential prudent of making profits
So, I myself prefer to invest on already listed and feasible coins but having profiting on the basis, Investing on future coin is assumed to be gambling or trying a luck which I would probably afford to invest on but on an affordable amount literally Incase of lost.

So as there is no harm in trying, investing of presale coin can not be undermined but though thorough research before Investing should not be underrated.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 21, 2024, 10:17:29 PM
As what other comments has stated presale is very risky and I personally haven't tried it ever since I was on crypto industry because I don,'t have enough capital to accumulate some coins then it was too risky for me as it was like a gambling since there is no assurance we will make any profit from it unless successful.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Jaephoenix on July 21, 2024, 11:49:25 PM
Investing in presales is riskier than risky. Why? Because the project can either fo up or down. The last presale I took part in was the Lisao presale on pancakeswap. It was a success even though I didn't buy much during that presale phase since I didn’t lock up much of the Cake on the IDO and I don't have the predesigned NFT needed to  boost my presale allocation
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on July 22, 2024, 04:46:22 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
This would really be that situational since i do have bad experience with presales specially on Pinksale and also with that DOP project recently which it did end up on -80% from presale price.
Wayback into those previous cycles which the presales on which i have joined did really turn up to be profitable. Somehow it would really be situational because there are project which are really that worth to invest into. This is why presale investment woudl really be somewhat that risky but if  you could be able to bare up with the risks or could be able to handle
then it would be your own choice.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: yhiaali3 on July 22, 2024, 04:51:21 AM
In my experience, investing in coins already listed on exchanges is better than investing in pre-sale, because I invested in more than one coin in pre-sale and did not get good results.

I saw a lot of newly listed currencies experiencing a huge dump because those who bought in the pre-sale or who received a free airdrop will sell their coins immediately after the listing and this will cause a huge dump on the price.

Therefore, I prefer to list first and wait for the price to stabilize and then buy. Of course, in some few successful projects, the listing price can be much higher than the pre-sale price, and here investors get a large profit, but from my experience, this is only a few cases.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: hugeblack on July 22, 2024, 05:13:57 AM

Pre-selling was an old strategy for making profits, but with the large number of cryptocurrency projects and the lack of guarantee of achieving any result or return, it is better not to invest in any project unless you really believe that the developing team may achieve value.
Some projects make a compromise solution, which is to launch a Bounty with the project’s tokens, as it contributes to promoting the project in exchange for obtaining some tokens, and this may be a good solution for some.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on July 22, 2024, 06:34:37 AM
Pre-sale investment certainly has the potential for high profits, but you also need to know that the risks are also greater... your parable is the best version, so the worst version is that when the pre-sale period is over, events that are beyond our expectations also sometimes arise... such as developers running away with the money they get, presale moments not getting enough money, regulatory problems, listing problems on the stock exchange and many more... when they are still babies, or you could even say they are still in the fetus (I make an analogy for tokens that are currently on presale )

Personally, I prefer to invest in coins that are more common, meaning I choose when the coin is already listed on the exchange.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: snowpega on July 22, 2024, 03:40:32 PM
Well, To be very honest, it is now a kinda risky investment these days as I have seen projects those who offer their token in pre-listing at lower prices and when they get listed on any exchange users/investors get scammed by some of these projects as the listing price is way lower than the price in pre-sale they offered.  Well, as far as I remember one of those project launched in the market named as Blast and many of the people bought their tokens in the pre-sale as this project had great hype in the community.

Investors bought their lower offered price and when the time of listing came then they realized they made the mistake of buying these tokens in pre-sale. So, in case, you are the one who believes in buying any project tokens in pre-sale, then buy with only those amounts you can bear in the form of loss, risk management is a very important part of the crypto industry. DYOR!
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gposas on July 22, 2024, 10:13:57 PM
Presale is very risky. Some presale are scam. Some are bump and dump. There are many that are not even pump and dump but only list and start dump as they will not increase in price at all. Some can dump as low as 20 times of the listing price.

You can invest in altcoins and not see the return on interest that you wished for. You can see them all like filecoin, BCH, ripple and many of them that are old already that did not pump much this time. People focus on new projects which are also very risky.

Invest the amount of money that you can afford to lose on both.

I 100% agree with you, you see most of all these pump and dump projects, after a while they end up being delisted from exchanges and those that invest on it are likely to run a huge loss because the token becomes unknown in the market. And I've also witnessed coins that will just start dumping after listing.
Uve just said it all, some altcoins also already in the crypto market do not likely pump much over time, no matter how bullish the market tends to be.
The very good advice you gave is "invest the money you can afford to lose"
Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on July 22, 2024, 10:49:07 PM

Presale is very risky. Some presale are scam. Some are bump and dump. There are many that are not even pump and dump but only list and start dump as they will not increase in price at all. Some can dump as low as 20 times of the listing price.

You can invest in altcoins and not see the return on interest that you wished for. You can see them all like filecoin, BCH, ripple and many of them that are old already that did not pump much this time. People focus on new projects which are also very risky.

Invest the amount of money that you can afford to lose on both.

I 100% agree with you, you see most of all these pump and dump projects, after a while they end up being delisted from exchanges and those that invest on it are likely to run a huge loss because the token becomes unknown in the market. And I've also witnessed coins that will just start dumping after listing.
Uve just said it all, some altcoins also already in the crypto market do not likely pump much over time, no matter how bullish the market tends to be.
The very good advice you gave is "invest the money you can afford to lose"
Thanks alot.

the timing is important these days. there certainly a better time to invest and better time to just watch the market.

investors during the ICO years have learned their lessons already and so are those who invest in tokens that are listed. what i think they are doing these days are just waiting for the bear market to be over  before buying some tokens. the tokens that have been listed for years are the safer to invest than those that are recently just listed in the market. i couldn't remember where i read this tip but most probably in some forum  posts as well.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: pakhitheboss on July 23, 2024, 06:08:48 AM
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I consider presale as a highly risky investment opportunity and in the past when ICOs were very common I had invested in a few. I did not get as much profit as I had expected but it was a decent amount that I made after holding the coins for a year. In today's time, it is better to invest in already listed coins than take a big risk. That is my point of view as one of the small-time investors of the past.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on July 23, 2024, 06:23:26 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?

All you have said is true but it's not true in all every situation. I just want you to know that the most risky part of them all is buying a coin that is not yet listed, there are much red flag in them but if you have the right connection to get into good coins through either renowned venture capitals or exchanges, you will make more money that you can ever imagine.

On the other hand, listed coins aren't risky as the unlisted coins but this also depend on when you bought it, it's not all listed coins that takes years before they give you profits. If you are lucky, some will give you yearly or at most in that same bull cycle if it's has not been pumped already.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bee on July 23, 2024, 07:48:29 AM
I'm not sure that the presale method is still used in the web3 era if the team is not an influential person or has connections to large fund holders. As for this event, it is usually opened specifically by projects that are really serious from the start, where companies or big figures only get the opportunity to whitelist and their names will be listed in the ranks of investor partners.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on July 23, 2024, 07:53:21 AM
I'm not sure that the presale method is still used in the web3 era if the team is not an influential person or has connections to large fund holders. As for this event, it is usually opened specifically by projects that are really serious from the start, where companies or big figures only get the opportunity to whitelist and their names will be listed in the ranks of investor partners.
"Usually"??? So if there is no presale, that means the project is not serious??? I feel a little strange about this statement, for several projects that I know of, presale is often used as an attractive method for large and small investors because the price is relatively cheap... but in the discussion of the topic this time it is the relationship between investment opportunity time... is it time presale, or when it is listed on the stock exchange....

Presales never guarantee entry to the stock exchange... but when they do make it to the stock exchange, the price increases are huge. When it is on the exchange, volatility is greatly influenced by supply and demand... and you will not find a price explosion when it enters the exchange, because the coin is already on the exchange.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 23, 2024, 08:12:52 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?

I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Why do we need to choose one when we can be part on both? if there is a high potential project then why not deny trusting on pre-sale if we can see our future profit from them?

back in the days of ICO i use to try Pre-saling investing but sadly im a failure , and that is why now  i only focused in existing or listed currencies such us ranking coins.

but try to find them both if you can make money either in Pre-sale  or in old school projects .
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Kemarit on July 23, 2024, 09:28:10 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?

There are still risks here,

Pre-Sale - yeah, it's cheap and you think that you hit the jackpot. However, you don't know if it will be successful in the future or how big it will be for you to get back your investments and then win some.

Coin already listed - still there is also a risk, but it's not as big as pre-sale, it could become stable overtime, but your profits might not as big as the pre-sale as it has been in the market already and you know that we have the bear and bull cycle. So it might take sometime for your to recover your investment and your profit might not as big as the pre-sale.

Bigger risk, bigger reward.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Bobcrypto on July 23, 2024, 10:15:54 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?

These days investing pre-sale is very risky, most new start up projects are not sincere even when they are successful. For example, after presale is concluded and project hit hardcap, it is a common practice that coins are listed above presale price, but unfortunately, many of these new start projects chooses to list coin on presale price, or even below presale with the thought that market forces, that is , the demand/supply principle will play out at the long run for the price growth.
Again, buying on presale is also risky because it can turn a scam except you have carried out a very critical research and get a good information about the project owners or the of team involve.
In a nut share, I think it is safer to invest on the existing coin than investing on presale.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: hugeblack on July 23, 2024, 11:18:45 AM

I 100% agree with you, you see most of all these pump and dump projects, after a while they end up being delisted from exchanges and those that invest on it are likely to run a huge loss because the token becomes unknown in the market. And I've also witnessed coins that will just start dumping after listing.
In the past, exchanges used to de-list such tokens because tracking prices was expensive and liquidity was low, but nowadays exchanges have different launchpad and listing levels. These levels are what make it possible to keep these tokens for long time before removing them.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: debra on July 23, 2024, 12:47:34 PM
What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
I prefer investing in the coins which are already listed on exchanges.
I've experienced many times that many projects have good concept but they only list their tokens/coins on bad exchanges. Even worse, they only list on a single exchange. This will never grow the price of the coins/tokens. At the end of the day, the coins/tokens become dead coins/tokens because there are too low demand on the market.

If the coins/tokens are listed on the exchanges, we can analyze where the coins are listed and how the daily volumes of the coins. If they coins are listed on bad exchanges, it is better to avoid investing on the coins. Moreover, if the daily volumes are too low and there are too few exchanges for the coins. It is better to invest in the coins listed on reputable exchanges only.

Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 23, 2024, 04:00:35 PM
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Presales were only profitable to invest in in the early days of crypto, this is around 2014, 15, 16, 17 era of crypto.
This days and now, even majority of projects running presale of their tokens often over price the token or coin, which is why most of the time, we see that the moment a coin or token gets listed, the price immediately falls below the presale price because many of those who bought the asset on presale wants to sell, but there are not enough buys to ensure that the asset price climbs up, which explains one thing clearly, the asset was overpriced during the presale comparing it to the type of community they have gathered.

So for me personally, I've stopped buying or investing in projects during presale, I prefer to invest when the asset gets listed on the exchange, I don't mind even if I have to buy it at a slightly higher price, which is even very rare to see days. 99 percent of the projects I participated in their presale sold below the presale price immediately it was listed on exchanges.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Roseline492 on July 23, 2024, 04:47:23 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible.

One thing you must no is that in as much as the both is good but there are also disadvantages that surrounds them, however let me start with presale, is obvious that there could be a huge profits from presale tokens because must people buys some tokens during there presale face with a very low prices knowing that when the project list there token the profits will be huge but however the challenge they faced most times is investing on a wrong project because there are so many people who have invested on presale tokens and up till now those tokens has not been listed on any Market and there is no any other way they could get there money back, though I'm not emphasizing that all presale tokens are fake but I'm only trying to let you no that there is also risk involved.

However when we talk about normal coin it also has it advantage and also disadvantages and the good thing about normal coin is that before investing on it you would have already carried out a research about them or maybe you have already seen how they have been doing on the market so from there you can possibly tell if it will be kay or not, however the disadvantage is that in as much as normal coin will seem very good to invest but the future could be unknown.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Freemind on July 23, 2024, 08:55:45 PM
Both options have risks associated with them, but they are quite different risks when we look at them. Investing in a presale always carries the risk that even if we have sought all possible information about the project and its team, it could always be a well orchestrated scam. We have already seen several (too many) scams of this type unfortunately. But if the project is completely legit and brings something new to the industry (I'm not talking about meme coins) it can be a good way to multiply our funds.

As for investing in projects already established in the market, it all depends on what project it is, and how expensive or cheap said investment may be. We could also obtain benefits, but I think they would be much smaller if we compare it with the first option.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on July 23, 2024, 10:51:50 PM
As we all know, business is all about risk and if you must invest in a business, you must be ready and able to face whatever comes your way be it profit or loss. When investing in Crypto, it is always advised to do our own research and invest with funds we can afford to lose.

Investing or buying at presales gives every investors a good edge over profit and that is the only guarantee projects give to their investors but after that  nothing Is guaranteed anymore. I sometimes buy immediately a project list and I buy at the list when there is a drop in price because it always happens like that. I did that the last time a project I know made good hype and vibe on social media and it was a good profit for me because I bought at the time it dropped immediately after listing and I made x100 my capital and I sold them all and I am planning on buying again.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: akeemqaz on July 24, 2024, 06:23:01 AM
I prefer launchpools most of the time because they only require staking to earn some of the coins before trading begins. This is safer than participating in a pre-sale or waiting for coins to start trading before buying.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on July 24, 2024, 06:32:50 AM
I prefer launchpools most of the time because they only require staking to earn some of the coins before trading begins. This is safer than participating in a pre-sale or waiting for coins to start trading before buying.
I don't know what I feel, that every staking to get coins, usually has a chance of gain that is no more attractive than buying... something that looks easier, usually has a small chance... although a big chance is not always from something that it's difficult, but again it's a matter of luck.... we could be unlucky in one of the launchpools or presale events that bury all our hopes....

However, for me personally, buying coins looks more gentle as long as it is based on solid beliefs.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: EluguHcman on July 24, 2024, 09:41:31 AM

Pre-selling was an old strategy for making profits, but with the large number of cryptocurrency projects and the lack of guarantee of achieving any result or return, it is better not to invest in any project unless you really believe that the developing team may achieve value.

Some projects make a compromise solution, which is to launch a Bounty with the project’s tokens, as it contributes to promoting the project in exchange for obtaining some tokens, and this may be a good solution for some.
Presales has only been a favourable investment strategy during then when they crypto markets has not been flooded with unguaranteed coins unlike now that scammers and shitcoins has also been dominance in the industry which inexperienced traders and investors who fails to do research before Investing befalls victims when they engages on projects that the project teams are not reputable.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Wiwo on July 24, 2024, 11:16:55 AM
When it comes to altcoins investment, one can not really tell when is the best time to buy them, because their future is full of unpredictable outcome, pre sale coin can turn out to become a good performing coin when their are listed on the exchange, it all depends on the quality of team behind the projects, while an already listed coin can get dumped in the market if the team decides to take an exit bite on their investor's.

To some the prefer already lifted coins because pf their previous experience with fake teams who will never take the coin to the exchange, with plan to just take investors' money and walk away, so it is hard to say when and how a coin will become successful so we have to go with luck all the time aside from our analysis.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: silkytakyaan86 on July 25, 2024, 05:01:21 PM
Investing in coins is a daily business. But according to me investing in presale is like hitting a four on the spot. Chances may be less. But the profit can be good. if you have a good luck.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: MUGNIA on July 25, 2024, 05:16:52 PM
I prefer old coins to coins that are still on pre sale, where pre-sale coins will be much different from expectations when entering trading, in contrast to old coins which have real performance and the benefits they will provide,
From the level of risk, I also think buying at pre-sale will be a bigger risk than investing in old coins
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 25, 2024, 05:25:42 PM
Investing in coins is a daily business. But according to me investing in presale is like hitting a four on the spot. Chances may be less. But the profit can be good. if you have a good luck.
In other words, you are saying that investing in presales is the same as gambling right?
Well, I would agree because that is not far from the truth actually, but on the other hand, I think it will depend on the project one is investing in. There are really some projects (though very few) that one can't afford to miss their presales, because that is the only means through which one can get their assets at the cheapest rate, and it's not like hitting a four because from all indications, it is very visible to see that such a project is very quality one.

But again, when it comes to several common projects out there trying to redo or solve a problem that several other existing projects are already solving, then investing in presale of such projects and succeeding at the end is indeed like hitting a four.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: snowpega on July 25, 2024, 05:41:53 PM
When it comes to altcoins investment, one can not really tell when is the best time to buy them, because their future is full of unpredictable outcome, pre sale coin can turn out to become a good performing coin when their are listed on the exchange, it all depends on the quality of team behind the projects, while an already listed coin can get dumped in the market if the team decides to take an exit bite on their investor's.

To some the prefer already lifted coins because pf their previous experience with fake teams who will never take the coin to the exchange, with plan to just take investors' money and walk away, so it is hard to say when and how a coin will become successful so we have to go with luck all the time aside from our analysis.

buddy, I do agree with you as investing in altcoins is a very picky part and needs good research before investing in any of them, and if we talk about those altcoins that are in their pre-sale phase and not listed anywhere in the spot or future then I believe it has more risk as compared to the one who is already listed on future trade section along spot trade section as these listed coins contains money volume.

Besides this, If we see the pre-sale technique is getting much more popular these days and I have seen one strong project pre-sale that made losses to many investors after listing in the spot trade. The listing price was lower than the price that was in pre-sale so that was a sign that made me realize that even if it is a good project and has a good community its buying in pre-sale can also cause some losses to the investors. What do you think of it buddy? must share opinion! Many Thanks.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on July 25, 2024, 06:17:52 PM
Investing in coins is a daily business. But according to me investing in presale is like hitting a four on the spot. Chances may be less. But the profit can be good. if you have a good luck.
In other words, you are saying that investing in presales is the same as gambling right?
Well, I would agree because that is not far from the truth actually, but on the other hand, I think it will depend on the project one is investing in. There are really some projects (though very few) that one can't afford to miss their presales, because that is the only means through which one can get their assets at the cheapest rate, and it's not like hitting a four because from all indications, it is very visible to see that such a project is very quality one.

But again, when it comes to several common projects out there trying to redo or solve a problem that several other existing projects are already solving, then investing in presale of such projects and succeeding at the end is indeed like hitting a four.
It's not totally true. When we saw the end date of the presale is getting nearer, the price of each token will increase. Usually, investors will only decide whether to buy or not in that time because once the presale ends and the hard cap is reached, it will be listed automatically to exchanges. You are only gambling in presale if you are investing in an early stage.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: robelneo on July 25, 2024, 07:23:42 PM
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?

If the coin token has good potential in the market, then buying it on presale is a good move and will likely yield you a good profit once it hits the market, its also good to buy in the market if the potential you see is for a long term, like Ethereum. Many investors bought Ethereum when it hit the exchange because they saw the development of the platform.
But the early bird catches the early worm, so early investors will catch a profit.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Hamza2424 on July 25, 2024, 08:44:14 PM
Pre-sale investment is like fast food, you can enjoy the short-term profits, and even some great returns on it, but there are higher risks, similar to fast food as fast food, looks crispy and delicious but in reality it's unhealthy. At the same time the Coin investment with an established community is like the mom's cooked food it takes time but it's healthy because most of the things are under-control.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Geey on July 25, 2024, 11:20:07 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Buying coins that have been registered on the CMC or market is better because the status of the coins is clear. If you buy coins on a new project, that is, if you buy during pre-sale, it is very dangerous, indeed the profit is greater than on coins that are already listed on the market, but it is very risky because new coins are very vulnerable to project failure and even the team runs away so the person who bought the coins the project incurred huge losses. but not all new coins are like that friends, the probability of 40% of new coins being successful and 60% failing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: |MINER| on July 25, 2024, 11:27:30 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
I have done some on the past time and have faced the scaming. So currently it don't attract me to invest on a new project or token or coin on their pre-sale.
But I won't gonna say that there is no possibility to earn some profit because it is possible and many trader is doing these already. The thing to gain profit by investing in a new project pre-sale is should have the skill to analysis and realize the project.
But if you are a newbie then I will say there is high chance in case of you getting face the loss by investing on pre-sale or new coin.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: debra on July 25, 2024, 11:38:37 PM
Pre-sale investment is like fast food, you can enjoy the short-term profits, and even some great returns on it, but there are higher risks, similar to fast food as fast food, looks crispy and delicious but in reality it's unhealthy. At the same time the Coin investment with an established community is like the mom's cooked food it takes time but it's healthy because most of the things are under-control.
It is funny you compare coins in pre-sale and fast food.  ;D
If the coins bought in pre-sale are good coins, why not to hold a long term? Unfortunately, we rarely find out good coins recently. Most of new coins are pump-dump coins, they only survive in a short time. That's why we must take profits as quick as possible, just sell the coins when they are listed in the first exchange. If we want to hold coins for a long time, it is better to choose old coins. It is because the old coins have been proven many years, we know the quality of the projects behind the coins very well.

Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on July 25, 2024, 11:45:21 PM
Investing in coins is a daily business. But according to me investing in presale is like hitting a four on the spot. Chances may be less. But the profit can be good. if you have a good luck.

You can alwsys invest on good coins even when they are already listed on the exchange, you can't be wrong all the time about listed coins if you don't go for low budget projects but presale will always land you in loss if you don't do proper due diligence but the presale can give you quick profits if eventually listed while listed coin will give you profits too but might be after some times and not immediately like the way presale might do.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 26, 2024, 12:21:39 AM
Presales are dime a dozen, thats the issue. I am not against the idea of presale, but there are a million presales in this moment, why care about them all? Like even just at one platform I can look at right now, there are over a dozen of them actively collecting funds, does that sound like something to really care about? Why would I invest into something so common, we all know that not all of them can make you a profit. I am not saying that there aren't any profitable ones, but the odds are too little. Whereas, if you invest into something like ETH, very established old and solid coin, the chance of you making money suddenly goes super high.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 26, 2024, 10:25:13 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
As a conservative investor, I always prefer investing on coins that are already in the crypto market than those new projects. Both still have risks, but the risks in investing into presale projects is higher than those that are listed on exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible.
Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
Presale isn't a good way to make profit (at least for me) just because of the risks. The success of these projects are low especially when they didn't meet the money that they need, and even though it's been reached, there are some developers out there that will just scam those investors. That's the risk especially when it's a new project. I'm not saying that those coins that are listed on exchanges aren't prone to failures, but the chances are lower.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Long time? It depends on what coin you are holding. I mean if you're holding a more volatile altcoin and then you just store it on an exchange, the profit would be higher than just holding Bitcoin or even those altcoins out there that has huge market cap since it's less volatile.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Geey on July 26, 2024, 10:43:17 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
As a conservative investor, I always prefer investing on coins that are already in the crypto market than those new projects. Both still have risks, but the risks in investing into presale projects is higher than those that are listed on exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible.
Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
Presale isn't a good way to make profit (at least for me) just because of the risks. The success of these projects are low especially when they didn't meet the money that they need, and even though it's been reached, there are some developers out there that will just scam those investors. That's the risk especially when it's a new project. I'm not saying that those coins that are listed on exchanges aren't prone to failures, but the chances are lower.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
Long time? It depends on what coin you are holding. I mean if you're holding a more volatile altcoin and then you just store it on an exchange, the profit would be higher than just holding Bitcoin or even those altcoins out there that has huge market cap since it's less volatile.
I agree with what you say, investing in old coins is better than investing in new coins... I'm sure all experienced investors definitely don't invest in new coins but there are also those who invest in new coins but they definitely already know the information about the project going forward. so that brands dare to invest and not for all their assets, perhaps 10% of their assets for investment in new coins..
So think first before you act, friend, because if you take the wrong step, then losses will befall you.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: albon on July 26, 2024, 05:59:02 PM
As an investor, the best and risk free investment in the current market is old coins. Because the new project scam started long ago and it has now increased manifold. Most of the investors are faced with money crunch by investing in new projects. In 2017 presale was a very good way for investors to make profit but people don't want to believe it because of scamming in changing era. Later ieo, ico got a lot of response and investors considered it as a profit potential. However, there is also a scamming project trial. But indeed there are still some new projects coming up that are successfully entering the exchange market quickly.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 26, 2024, 08:00:19 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
It's hard to find a profitable project presale but with knowledge, this hardship will be eliminated and we can find a good project presale. You are right about hardcap and softcap which shows these platforms have failed to run successful marketing campaigns and therefore these platforms did not get many investors.

If you will see a presale on a centralized exchange you will see there will be a big demand but if you see a presale on a pinksale then you will see problems with filling softcaps and hardcaps. Investments always take time therefore we should find the right project.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Roseline492 on July 26, 2024, 09:32:39 PM
As an investor, the best and risk free investment in the current market is old coins. Because the new project scam started long ago and it has now increased manifold. Most of the investors are faced with money crunch by investing in new projects.

I also have the same believe because is difficult to rely on a new coin they hardly know because they may not really know if they will be able to last long on the market which is the reason why I don't consider new coins based on there market price or increments because a coin could be doing very well now but in the next 5 years they would be no were to be found on the market but in the case of old coins they have already proven there worthiness to invest just as I mentioned on my previous post.

In 2017 presale was a very good way for investors to make profit but people don't want to believe it because of scamming in changing era. Later ieo, ico got a lot of response and investors considered it as a profit potential. However, there is also a scamming project trial. But indeed there are still some new projects coming up that are successfully entering the exchange market quickly.

Yeah in the case of presale it was very common in those days by new projects and people were not too familiar with it but the moment they advance to ICO and IEO people began to invest on them and so many scam projects started running there ICO and made away with people's money.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: vegasus on July 26, 2024, 10:55:53 PM
Personally, so far I still prefer top coins that are already listed on top markets or exchanges. Because, I hope for long-term holding, I rarely do short-term or trading. So what I need are coins that already have a strong fundamental lineup and a solid team to develop the coins. especially if the market cap is also high. And that's also why I'm more selective about what kind of top coins.

However, for people who are used to taking higher risks but with the hope of high returns, then pre-sale coins will be the choice. Because sometimes, it's really like a jackpot with returns that are many times the profit. maybe even really unpredictable. it's just that, the risk is also very big because we won't know if the coin will really be successful and listed on the market then at least hype and skyrocket or not the price. Because if it turns out that the coins are a scam, well, our money will be lost. However, if the coin is successful, we will really reap the results.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Z-tight on July 26, 2024, 11:03:34 PM
In order to make the most of this bull run, it's important for all of us to carefully position ourselves by conducting thorough research on promising coins.
It is hard to correctly pick coins that would later be successful, there are just too many altcoins and you have to be lucky to buy the coins that are going to do well. I recommend that people wait until it is altcoin season, before buying so many altcoins, if you purchase so many now, they might be dead before some altcoins start to pump.

Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on July 27, 2024, 04:58:21 AM
In order to make the most of this bull run, it's important for all of us to carefully position ourselves by conducting thorough research on promising coins.
It is hard to correctly pick coins that would later be successful, there are just too many altcoins and you have to be lucky to buy the coins that are going to do well. I recommend that people wait until it is altcoin season, before buying so many altcoins, if you purchase so many now, they might be dead before some altcoins start to pump.
Or simply its being saturated on which it is really that too hard to determine on which one would really be that successful and which one would really be ending up on being a rugged project.
This is why i dont really like on investing on presales but there would really be some exemptions on which it would really be depending whether the project does really have some good partnerships and some build up hype and of course when it comes to that realistic utiltiy which you would really be needing to look that well and be able to see whether its achievable or not.
There are utilities on which are not realistic on which you could say that its not worth on investing into it.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Z-tight on July 27, 2024, 06:16:25 PM
There are utilities on which are not realistic on which you could say that its not worth on investing into it.
If what the project is promising is not realistic and is just formed from thin air, then it cannot even be called a utility in the first place, utility is the usefulness of the coin & project. There are just too many new coins with nothing but promises from thin air and nothing else, projects like that only last a very short time, most people lose their money and only a very few get something from it.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on July 27, 2024, 09:03:38 PM
It is hard to correctly pick coins that would later be successful, there are just too many altcoins and you have to be lucky to buy the coins that are going to do well. I recommend that people wait until it is altcoin season, before buying so many altcoins, if you purchase so many now, they might be dead before some altcoins start to pump.

Yes it is hard to select good altcoins but if someone focuses more on profitable old coins as compared to new unknown coins then there is a chance that during altcoins season his held coins will show growth in worth. In previous days when the price was lower so that time was the best time to make purchases and hold old altcoins like ethereum, Solana, BNB and many others is a really worthy decision.

New coins can die before the initiation of altcoins season but tested and known coins cannot die and will grow even more in altcoins season therefore one should not be too lazy and should make investigation about worthy and unworthy altcoins to buy before altcoins season.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 27, 2024, 09:53:56 PM
The both can be termed as 50/50 investment, why?
Good! You know when you are investing in a newly project at seeding it makes it impossible for you to know about the project even though they had promised investors specifics amount they are going to list each tokens that doesn't guaranteed it must work that way, like you said most of them don't even succeeds meeting their cut off market so they fails. In other ways, your investment is waste and you lose your money.

Same is applicable to lot of coin that has been already listed in exchange where the owners succeeded listing it on their without the help of pre-sale and immediately they listed people began to buy and they manipulates the price on their will and must of them I mean the team members ends up dumping the coin and immediately other team members notice they would have no option to go dump as well whereby you would end up having worthless coin in your wallet or exchange. The thing is you have to do proper research on the coin/tokens before making your investment.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Jaephoenix on July 28, 2024, 12:00:13 AM
I still think investing in presales is risky since the project can either fo up or down. The last presale I took part in was the Lisao presale on pancakeswap. It was a success even though I didn't buy much during that presale phase since I didn’t lock up much of the Cake on the IDO and I also did the IGO on VVS on Cronos, which was very profitable
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Wiwo on July 28, 2024, 09:38:42 PM


buddy, I do agree with you as investing in altcoins is a very picky part and needs good research before investing in any of them, and if we talk about those altcoins that are in their pre-sale phase and not listed anywhere in the spot or future then I believe it has more risk as compared to the one who is already listed on future trade section along spot trade section as these listed coins contains money volume.

Besides this, If we see the pre-sale technique is getting much more popular these days and I have seen one strong project pre-sale that made losses to many investors after listing in the spot trade. The listing price was lower than the price that was in pre-sale so that was a sign that made me realize that even if it is a good project and has a good community its buying in pre-sale can also cause some losses to the investors. What do you think of it buddy? must share opinion! Many Thanks.
That is what it is, I investing in presale coins is a high risk investment, but if you can make a good research to know the team behind a project and what the motive for creating the coin is, it will this could help a lot because many of those who have profited from altcoins and in the past all gain a lot from pre sale coin since the price of coins at pre sale are always low and if you have luck to have bought some good coin a when their get listed you stand a chance to make a lot of money as in total profits.

Like you said, investing in altcoins in there presale stage is high risk and in fact double risk for you as an investor should nce you may lose your entire money when and if the project failed to get listed on exchange.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: nakamura12 on July 28, 2024, 11:55:05 PM
Investing in Pre-sale is very risky. There is a chance that the presale couldn't make it to market. You would have to make a lot of research and make a lot of effort in learning and understanding about the project that you are going to invest. If the project have a great chance of getting into market then investing on that project while it is still on Pre-sale would be a good choice to make. As many have know, it is not easy to find good projects to invest.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bright4mech on July 29, 2024, 10:43:48 PM
The risk of investing on presale is very high than already listed coin in the crypto market. But presale investment give more profits within a short period. while investing on already listed coin is good for a long term holding and is also a profitable business.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Roseline492 on July 29, 2024, 11:21:59 PM
I still think investing in presales is risky since the project can either fo up or down. The last presale I took part in was the Lisao presale on pancakeswap. It was a success even though I didn't buy much during that presale phase since I didn’t lock up much of the Cake on the IDO and I also did the IGO on VVS on Cronos, which was very profitable

That's just the challenge about presale because there is always a drama at the end in most presale project, I actually I don't like presale but I could remember one certain time a friend lured me into buying one presale token, so after buying the token they promised to list on a particular price but to my greatest surprise on the listing day, they just flash the price and immediately it went way below my buying points so I decided to wait if the price could retrace back but it keeps dropping so I decided to sell in lost so after then I began to hate presale token and focus only on Bitcoin investment which I know is the most trusted.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on July 30, 2024, 12:14:59 AM
I still think investing in presales is risky since the project can either fo up or down. The last presale I took part in was the Lisao presale on pancakeswap. It was a success even though I didn't buy much during that presale phase since I didn’t lock up much of the Cake on the IDO and I also did the IGO on VVS on Cronos, which was very profitable

That's just the challenge about presale because there is always a drama at the end in most presale project, I actually I don't like presale but I could remember one certain time a friend lured me into buying one presale token, so after buying the token they promised to list on a particular price but to my greatest surprise on the listing day, they just flash the price and immediately it went way below my buying points so I decided to wait if the price could retrace back but it keeps dropping so I decided to sell in lost so after then I began to hate presale token and focus only on Bitcoin investment which I know is the most trusted.
Most crypto organisations or start ups do presale, and this is the avenue for them to generate funds for their projects and everything else necessary for the growth and success of their projects. However, investors who key into these startup projects are rewarded with tokens as shares, and that quantifies the amount of money they put in for the project.

It is normal that listing prices always go down in the event of token launches on exchanges.  My friend told me one thing he does: he does not rush to buy for presales because of the risk involved. If, as an investor, you did a presale, you would have to wait for a long time for the project to reach the stage of utility and to get on its stand before looking at the market price. But what he does is this: he buys after listing because there is every tendency that the price of the token would drop as a result of dumps from airdroppers and others, and when that happens, the price of the token crashes below the listing price, so he buys at that point and waits for the market to pick up again. That is how he does it, and I can say it is a good idea for traders who know what is obtainable.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cech1337 on July 30, 2024, 12:50:00 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?

Great question! The choice between investing in presales versus tokens already listed on exchanges depends on several factors, including your risk tolerance, investment goals, and market experience. Here’s a breakdown of both approaches:

Investing in Presales:

Pros:

Early Entry: You can buy tokens at a lower price before they hit the market, which could lead to significant gains if the project performs well.
Potential High Returns: Successful projects can experience substantial price increases post-listing, offering high returns on early investments.
Cons:

Higher Risk: Many presale projects fail to reach their funding goals or face issues after listing. This can lead to losses if the project doesn't deliver or if the funds are not refunded.
Lack of Track Record: New projects might lack a proven track record or full visibility, making it harder to assess their long-term viability.
Investing in Listed Tokens:

Pros:

Established Market Presence: Tokens already listed on exchanges have a track record and are generally less risky compared to new presale projects.
Liquidity: You can buy and sell tokens more easily on exchanges, providing more flexibility in managing your investments.
Cons:

Longer Timeframe for Gains: It can take time for listed tokens to appreciate, especially in a down market. Gains might be slower compared to presale investments.
Market Volatility: Established tokens are still subject to market fluctuations, which can impact short-term profitability.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Pastaral on July 31, 2024, 05:08:04 PM
If we look at this,investing in cryptocurrencies each has its own advantages and high risks.  Again,these presale tokens are often offered at a lower price than their token launch price. Again,this activity allows investors to buy lower-priced tokens.But they also carry risk in investment.Also the price of presale tokens can change rapidly within days of launch.Due to which investors may suffer.Despite these risks if you manage it properly and invest carefully you can definitely do well and receive good profits.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on July 31, 2024, 07:39:03 PM
It is hard to correctly pick coins that would later be successful, there are just too many altcoins and you have to be lucky to buy the coins that are going to do well. I recommend that people wait until it is altcoin season, before buying so many altcoins, if you purchase so many now, they might be dead before some altcoins start to pump.

There are a large number of coins and still new are emerging so one cannot tell you about a successful coin which will give you better profit in future instead of top coins which you can choose without any further query.

You will feel that the newly emerging coins will be the same successful and trending like they are today but it does not always prove to be accurate in the future.

Investment in new coins with large amounts of money is very risky and it's hard to know whether they will give you revenue or not therefore buy top altcoins with a greater chance of future success.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on August 02, 2024, 10:19:58 AM
It is hard to correctly pick coins that would later be successful, there are just too many altcoins and you have to be lucky to buy the coins that are going to do well. I recommend that people wait until it is altcoin season, before buying so many altcoins, if you purchase so many now, they might be dead before some altcoins start to pump.

There are a large number of coins and still new are emerging so one cannot tell you about a successful coin which will give you better profit in future instead of top coins which you can choose without any further query.

You will feel that the newly emerging coins will be the same successful and trending like they are today but it does not always prove to be accurate in the future.

Investment in new coins with large amounts of money is very risky and it's hard to know whether they will give you revenue or not therefore buy top altcoins with a greater chance of future success.
This is indeed a difficult thing because we cannot determine whether the coin will be successful or not, especially when we participate in pre-sales. Indeed, many people profit when participating in pre-sales, but not a few also lose.

So you really need a little luck to be able to get coins that can bring us profit, because this is a coin that has just appeared. We must be able to analyze it well and also must be accompanied by a little luck.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on August 02, 2024, 10:48:49 PM
If we look at this,investing in cryptocurrencies each has its own advantages and high risks.  Again,these presale tokens are often offered at a lower price than their token launch price. Again,this activity allows investors to buy lower-priced tokens.But they also carry risk in investment.Also the price of presale tokens can change rapidly within days of launch.Due to which investors may suffer.Despite these risks if you manage it properly and invest carefully you can definitely do well and receive good profits.

Sometimes, the presale tokens comes with extra bonus why because they actually know the uncertainty of their listing so they would want their investors to have a good support base so as to be able to get back their investment capitals and possibly a little profit if it doesn't work out as planned for. Sometimes projects list but the crash in Price effects investors so bad that they can not be able to get anything out of it but have no option than to sell that cheap or hold for a long period of time. So the extra bonus given as at the presales is just a cushion effect to their investments if things go south against their expectations.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: pieppiep on August 04, 2024, 10:27:28 PM
If we look at this,investing in cryptocurrencies each has its own advantages and high risks.  Again,these presale tokens are often offered at a lower price than their token launch price. Again,this activity allows investors to buy lower-priced tokens.But they also carry risk in investment.Also the price of presale tokens can change rapidly within days of launch.Due to which investors may suffer.Despite these risks if you manage it properly and invest carefully you can definitely do well and receive good profits.

Sometimes, the presale tokens comes with extra bonus why because they actually know the uncertainty of their listing so they would want their investors to have a good support base so as to be able to get back their investment capitals and possibly a little profit if it doesn't work out as planned for. Sometimes projects list but the crash in Price effects investors so bad that they can not be able to get anything out of it but have no option than to sell that cheap or hold for a long period of time. So the extra bonus given as at the presales is just a cushion effect to their investments if things go south against their expectations.
But with the additional bonuses that investors get, it will make the price of the tokens purchased very cheap. So far, there have been no new projects that started with fundraising that have become expensive because, as you said at the beginning, they get additional bonus tokens that are obtained for early investors.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on August 06, 2024, 09:00:37 PM
This is indeed a difficult thing because we cannot determine whether the coin will be successful or not, especially when we participate in pre-sales. Indeed, many people profit when participating in pre-sales, but not a few also lose.

So you really need a little luck to be able to get coins that can bring us profit, because this is a coin that has just appeared. We must be able to analyze it well and also must be accompanied by a little luck.

We don't know about the reality of coins if we invest during pre sale but I have witnessed many individuals who are successful by making investments during pre sale. Investment can be profitable or it can be full of risk so one who is choosing new coins instead of old ones is checking their luck and the future will decide about the reality of such coins.

Nowadays people are not only choosing top coins but they are also accepting new coins as they are in a desire to take the risk, check their luck and get huge profit in little time.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on August 08, 2024, 02:48:25 PM
This is indeed a difficult thing because we cannot determine whether the coin will be successful or not, especially when we participate in pre-sales. Indeed, many people profit when participating in pre-sales, but not a few also lose.

So you really need a little luck to be able to get coins that can bring us profit, because this is a coin that has just appeared. We must be able to analyze it well and also must be accompanied by a little luck.

We don't know about the reality of coins if we invest during pre sale but I have witnessed many individuals who are successful by making investments during pre sale. Investment can be profitable or it can be full of risk so one who is choosing new coins instead of old ones is checking their luck and the future will decide about the reality of such coins.

Nowadays people are not only choosing top coins but they are also accepting new coins as they are in a desire to take the risk, check their luck and get huge profit in little time.
That is indeed the goal of buyers in pre-sale, they buy with the hope that when they first enter the market the price of the coin can be many times the pre-sale price.

However, for beginners I do not recommend this, because it requires a very strong mentality when expectations do not occur. For beginners it is better to invest in coins that are already trusted, especially bitcoin or altcoins that are in high rankings.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Zed0X on August 08, 2024, 05:16:10 PM
Personally, I would rather choose coins already in the market because I don't want to deal with lock-in periods, staggered released of tokens, and team dumping. Yes, the potential profit from being an early bird with presale is huge if you get lucky but risk of losing is equally high.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: armanda90 on August 08, 2024, 06:04:08 PM
Personally, I would rather choose coins already in the market because I don't want to deal with lock-in periods, staggered released of tokens, and team dumping. Yes, the potential profit from being an early bird with presale is huge if you get lucky but risk of losing is equally high.
Investing with coins on pre sale moment such as big gambling because can't guarantee will have higher price later when listing on the market, but promising high return with pre sale coins make many people very excited waiting with new pre sale coins moment. I am interested with pre sale but depend on which one pre sale placed if on the top exchange market such as Binance its not matter avoid will have lower price than pre sale when listing moment.
But if pre sale on their own website only I think as big gambling we can't predicting have higher price later when listing exactly not confirming on bigger exchange for listing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on August 08, 2024, 06:11:48 PM
If we look at this,investing in cryptocurrencies each has its own advantages and high risks.  Again,these presale tokens are often offered at a lower price than their token launch price. Again,this activity allows investors to buy lower-priced tokens.But they also carry risk in investment.Also the price of presale tokens can change rapidly within days of launch.Due to which investors may suffer.Despite these risks if you manage it properly and invest carefully you can definitely do well and receive good profits.

Sometimes, the presale tokens comes with extra bonus why because they actually know the uncertainty of their listing so they would want their investors to have a good support base so as to be able to get back their investment capitals and possibly a little profit if it doesn't work out as planned for. Sometimes projects list but the crash in Price effects investors so bad that they can not be able to get anything out of it but have no option than to sell that cheap or hold for a long period of time. So the extra bonus given as at the presales is just a cushion effect to their investments if things go south against their expectations.
But with the additional bonuses that investors get, it will make the price of the tokens purchased very cheap. So far, there have been no new projects that started with fundraising that have become expensive because, as you said at the beginning, they get additional bonus tokens that are obtained for early investors.
I could recall to the best of my knowledge and if I am not mistaken,  in the past projects do give bonuses for their own early investors at the earliest stage of their call for investment. Because that time it was done at phases and stages so the first sets of investors gets good bonuses compared to the others in price and quantity or volume of their token and in some cases  when it is time for listing and trading, the early investors are given the priority and opportunities to do so before bounty hunters and airdroppers enters the market. Some projects did such and early adopters were privy of the benefits as well.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Vx1 on August 08, 2024, 08:13:15 PM
If I were to buy coins during the Pre-sale if I could get them, it would give us a cheaper price than if we were to buy when the Crypto coin had entered the market. And I think everyone is like that, and not everyone can buy during the Pre-sale.
Because usually when a project sells coins during the Pre-sale, buyers compete or sometimes crypto projects set conditions for who can buy during the Pre-sale.
So if we have the opportunity to buy during the Pre-sale, then do it.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: luckyledger on August 08, 2024, 09:48:06 PM
If I were to buy coins during the Pre-sale if I could get them, it would give us a cheaper price than if we were to buy when the Crypto coin had entered the market. And I think everyone is like that, and not everyone can buy during the Pre-sale.
Because usually when a project sells coins during the Pre-sale, buyers compete or sometimes crypto projects set conditions for who can buy during the Pre-sale.
So if we have the opportunity to buy during the Pre-sale, then do it.

Agreed, but only do it if you believe in the project dearly. Otherwise, you may find yourself in an odd situation with no solution in place (not the one which would benefit you).
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: pieppiep on August 09, 2024, 02:27:38 AM
If I were to buy coins during the Pre-sale if I could get them, it would give us a cheaper price than if we were to buy when the Crypto coin had entered the market. And I think everyone is like that, and not everyone can buy during the Pre-sale.
Because usually when a project sells coins during the Pre-sale, buyers compete or sometimes crypto projects set conditions for who can buy during the Pre-sale.
So if we have the opportunity to buy during the Pre-sale, then do it.

Agreed, but only do it if you believe in the project dearly. Otherwise, you may find yourself in an odd situation with no solution in place (not the one which would benefit you).
All new projects certainly have risks that must be realized from the first time we want to invest there. Projects that can develop basically have product development that is very useful for many people, In that way it will make the exchange rate of the token or coin that is developed will increase because of the influence of very high demand.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Vx1 on August 09, 2024, 07:48:48 AM
If I were to buy coins during the Pre-sale if I could get them, it would give us a cheaper price than if we were to buy when the Crypto coin had entered the market. And I think everyone is like that, and not everyone can buy during the Pre-sale.
Because usually when a project sells coins during the Pre-sale, buyers compete or sometimes crypto projects set conditions for who can buy during the Pre-sale.
So if we have the opportunity to buy during the Pre-sale, then do it.

Agreed, but only do it if you believe in the project dearly. Otherwise, you may find yourself in an odd situation with no solution in place (not the one which would benefit you).
Conducting analysis before buying a coin is certain, this will certainly be done by cryptocurrency traders or investors.
Because it is no longer a secret, if we rashly make a purchase either during Pre-sale or when the coin is ready on the market it will make us lose if it turns out to be a bad coin.
At least we have to look for information first, either on the project's social media or on their official Telegram Channel.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Rubel007 on August 09, 2024, 01:19:14 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
If you can buy coins from the presale, you can buy them at a low price, which has the potential to make several times or more profit when it comes to the market later. However, many new projects in the name of presale have raised money from investors later they scammed with the investors. Now I find it challenging to choose which project is better. From that point of view, it is better to invest in any existing coin in the market, but before investing, you must invest in top coins to avoid risk.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: albon on August 09, 2024, 07:38:20 PM
If I were to buy coins during the Pre-sale if I could get them, it would give us a cheaper price than if we were to buy when the Crypto coin had entered the market. And I think everyone is like that, and not everyone can buy during the Pre-sale.
Because usually when a project sells coins during the Pre-sale, buyers compete or sometimes crypto projects set conditions for who can buy during the Pre-sale.
So if we have the opportunity to buy during the Pre-sale, then do it.

Agreed, but only do it if you believe in the project dearly. Otherwise, you may find yourself in an odd situation with no solution in place (not the one which would benefit you).
In fact, belief risk-taking attitude always applies to investing. Also don't walk the investment path inspired by expert or celebrity tweets. Because they fool people through different ways for their tweet views. Many people take service charges and then promote those scam projects. And where there is volatility, both the money to be made and lost can be huge. So don't get too excited about investing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Faisal2202 on August 09, 2024, 07:48:16 PM
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
That's not true about the listing price will always be higher, no doubt when the tokens get listed the price candles make big moves but a pre-sale buyer might not be able to sell them that high due to order book delay or liquidity problems. There could be any problem, and there are tokens that got lower than the presale price, and the investors made big losses. But it happens rarely in legit projects.

Mega profit is not confirmed because a person might consider 2x a mega profit but for another, it won't be so please justify what's the definition of mega profit in your terms.

You are right, a refund is not possible but if you are talking about centralized exchanges from the tier 1 list then you will get a full refund if a project fails to meet soft or hard cap and which results in failure of listing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Hridoy7788 on August 09, 2024, 08:10:50 PM
I’d say it depends on your risk tolerance. Presales can be great for early profits if the project succeeds, but there’s always a risk that it might flop, and you could lose your investment.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on August 09, 2024, 09:16:22 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
If you can buy coins from the presale, you can buy them at a low price, which has the potential to make several times or more profit when it comes to the market later. However, many new projects in the name of presale have raised money from investors later they scammed with the investors. Now I find it challenging to choose which project is better. From that point of view, it is better to invest in any existing coin in the market, but before investing, you must invest in top coins to avoid risk.

There have been lots of complaints from investors in the past who got scammed by projets they had no much knowledge about as a result of their negligence and inept to do their own research. Buying from presale has its own risk because you don't know if the project would last or succeed
These days, people find it difficult to invest in projects as a result of their experience and also,  for the fact that there are lots of projects and scams every where which makes it more cautious and they being able to get more information about the project they are going into.

I  always do this if I want to invest in a new project. What I do is to purchase the token after listing because at then the price would definitely crash as a result of sell pressure from holders when that happens, I place my buy order and wait the after a while it must have picked up by then I must have made some good profit for buying cheap. That is what I do I don't rush to buy from presale just like that. I follow up any project I see to be genuine which I am not too convinced or sure of their credibility and reliability.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Hamza2424 on August 09, 2024, 10:00:50 PM
You are right, a refund is not possible but if you are talking about centralized exchanges from the tier 1 list then you will get a full refund if a project fails to meet soft or hard cap and which results in failure of listing.

Buddy TBH, in most of cases a refund is processed not on the hard cap failure but on the soft cap failure, as you should acknowledge that in the funding rounds for the success of the project soft cap is necessary not the hard cap. Yup I know about what are talking, in most of cases the investors who stake their funds for allocation after reaching hard cap exchanges refund the remaining amount to stakes.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Agbe on August 09, 2024, 10:59:01 PM
It is good to invest in the main launched project and not in the presale project because the presale project can disappoint you. It is good to invest on the coin which is already in the market so you will know that your investment is secured but in the presale coin, you will be thinking all the tie whether you will lose all or you will make gain.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Faisal2202 on August 10, 2024, 09:37:35 AM
Buddy TBH, in most of cases a refund is processed not on the hard cap failure but on the soft cap failure, as you should acknowledge that in the funding rounds for the success of the project soft cap is necessary not the hard cap.
I acknowledged with your information that soft cap necessary for the successful listing of the token and hard cap is just the indication that project has gathered a lot and now is the time to end the pre-sale.

Yup I know about what are talking, in most of cases the investors who stake their funds for allocation after reaching hard cap exchanges refund the remaining amount to stakes.
Are you saying if someone staked funds for allocation in presale and the sale ended then the refund will be made? Well that's an obvious thing because on centralized exchanges you get refund if you don't get the tokens.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Doovla on January 14, 2025, 08:51:28 PM
A similar rush of projects for the pre-sale opportunity before listing. Accelerated takes place in rounds, sold within 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on January 15, 2025, 05:09:59 PM
It is good to invest in the main launched project and not in the presale project because the presale project can disappoint you. It is good to invest on the coin which is already in the market so you will know that your investment is secured but in the presale coin, you will be thinking all the tie whether you will lose all or you will make gain.
Moving our attention more towards projects that are already active in the market proves to be far more secure than buying into pre-sale projects. In such a case, we have an opportunity to obtain more quantifiable data like an experience in the given coin’s performance or the percentage of investors using it. It also minimises uncertainty which precede most pre-sales projects. Indeed there can be very good returns from the early investments but the risk involved also starts very high. In choosing these proven coins, it becomes easier to handle the investments that we make in order to create a long term strategy. This way not only minimises the impact of emotions but also increases the probability of obtaining comparable results.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: kulkhan on January 16, 2025, 08:32:46 PM
It is good to invest in the main launched project and not in the presale project because the presale project can disappoint you. It is good to invest on the coin which is already in the market so you will know that your investment is secured but in the presale coin, you will be thinking all the tie whether you will lose all or you will make gain.
Yes i am agree with you. I think investment on pre sell is very risky. Because most of the project pre sell price were high. When main trading thats means spot trading start price were fall then pre sell investors were loser.

So i think investment on pre sell is very risky and loss project. So i think investment in spot trading is best. I think thats coin who already runnos
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on January 16, 2025, 08:44:12 PM
Moving our attention more towards projects that are already active in the market proves to be far more secure than buying into pre-sale projects. In such a case, we have an opportunity to obtain more quantifiable data like an experience in the given coin’s performance or the percentage of investors using it. It also minimises uncertainty which precede most pre-sales projects. Indeed there can be very good returns from the early investments but the risk involved also starts very high. In choosing these proven coins, it becomes easier to handle the investments that we make in order to create a long term strategy. This way not only minimises the impact of emotions but also increases the probability of obtaining comparable results.

If you don't risk as a man, there many opportunities that you will lose. It's normal that coin that is trading on the market feels save and better to but there is a way you can participate in pre-sale and community sales and you will be safe with your investment, not every sales is scam in crypto community, as long as you do your own research before buying.

Initial coin offering are now rebranded to different ways of selling coins to peoplw. We have hundreds of launch pad with good reputation and known teams that now allow everyone have a good share of tokens without been scam because they make sure it is transparent as possible.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on January 16, 2025, 11:40:03 PM
It is good to invest in the main launched project and not in the presale project because the presale project can disappoint you. It is good to invest on the coin which is already in the market so you will know that your investment is secured but in the presale coin, you will be thinking all the tie whether you will lose all or you will make gain.
Yes i am agree with you. I think investment on pre sell is very risky. Because most of the project pre sell price were high. When main trading thats means spot trading start price were fall then pre sell investors were loser.

So i think investment on pre sell is very risky and loss project. So i think investment in spot trading is best. I think thats coin who already runnos
While investing in pre-sale projects does come with more risks; costs are also relatively high as the price offered when entering the spot market is rarely fair. In the case of the first trade price goes below the price at which the tokens are sold during the pre-ICO this can be considered a loss for the initial investors. Selecting the option to invest in a spot trading on coins that have been running helps as well in that one can have direct visibility of the market performance instead of estimating via proposals and various possibilities. By doing this we can bring down the risk level slightly but retain the chance for even more stable and perhaps more easily measured levels of profit.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Hisbullah on January 16, 2025, 11:42:09 PM
It is good to invest in the main launched project and not in the presale project because the presale project can disappoint you. It is good to invest on the coin which is already in the market so you will know that your investment is secured but in the presale coin, you will be thinking all the tie whether you will lose all or you will make gain.
Yes i am agree with you. I think investment on pre sell is very risky. Because most of the project pre sell price were high. When main trading thats means spot trading start price were fall then pre sell investors were loser.

So i think investment on pre sell is very risky and loss project. So i think investment in spot trading is best. I think thats coin who already runnos
If you do not have the knowledge and experience in presales, it is better not to do it.
There are still many choices of coins that are already popular and have a good reputation, we can choose top coins. Which have clearly been proven and have survived until now.
I once bought a token in the past, joining the presale turned out not to be worth it. because the price of the coin fell and there were not many enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: sampoerna on January 16, 2025, 11:54:07 PM
I’d say it depends on your risk tolerance. Presales can be great for early profits if the project succeeds, but there’s always a risk that it might flop, and you could lose your investment.
I agree. Even though we are more focused on becoming low risk takers, it doesn't mean that others are not high risk takers. It will depend on the risk you take, how high it is and how ready you are for it. Investing in top coins is still the main thing, of course. However, if you want to invest in newly released coins, it would make sense if you are really ready for all the risks, and can think of ways to still be optimal in getting profits. Because this is very risky, so it does require better tactics and mental readiness and more knowledge.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 17, 2025, 05:06:49 AM
As what other comments has stated presale is very risky and I personally haven't tried it ever since I was on crypto industry because I don,'t have enough capital to accumulate some coins then it was too risky for me as it was like a gambling since there is no assurance we will make any profit from it unless successful.

All presales are flat out a simple shot in the dark, unless you are directly involved in the launch.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Stuart on January 17, 2025, 06:17:54 AM
There is risk when it comes to investment in the crypto industry and this risk depends on the individual as risk levels differ from one person to another.
Most investors will prefer to take the risk of investing on pre-sale, so as to accumulate more of the project coins and hail it off when listed, and most times, the coins list and they make profits.
Other investors prefer to take investment on coins already listed, having seen the growth and development of that project will invest on it.

When it comes to investment, we know profit or losses awaits us up ahead, therefore, it is advisable to invest what we can manage the risk of losing. This might not be the very best advice, but it will keep one on a safer side if things doesn't work out well.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on January 17, 2025, 10:37:24 AM
As what other comments has stated presale is very risky and I personally haven't tried it ever since I was on crypto industry because I don,'t have enough capital to accumulate some coins then it was too risky for me as it was like a gambling since there is no assurance we will make any profit from it unless successful.

All presales are flat out a simple shot in the dark, unless you are directly involved in the launch.
If you are part of the team then thats sure money but in investors perspective then it will be that a huge problem and just like you said that this is really that indeed a shot in the dark but of course if you do apply some analysis then you might be able to increase the chance on having that success. Even though investing on presales are shit but still there are those people who are really that fan when it comes to presale investments because this is where they do make money but there are ones who are really that investing on the moment that they will really be able to see up some coins that dumped down after listed because most of the time it will be making out that kind of recovery and this is what they are really that tageting into.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on January 17, 2025, 10:57:57 AM
All presales are flat out a simple shot in the dark, unless you are directly involved in the launch.

Yep.
You put your faith and analysis to the test and reap the rewards.
Or get rugged from your money.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 17, 2025, 12:04:24 PM
There is risk when it comes to investment in the crypto industry and this risk depends on the individual as risk levels differ from one person to another.
Most investors will prefer to take the risk of investing on pre-sale, so as to accumulate more of the project coins and hail it off when listed, and most times, the coins list and they make profits.
Other investors prefer to take investment on coins already listed, having seen the growth and development of that project will invest on it.

When it comes to investment, we know profit or losses awaits us up ahead, therefore, it is advisable to invest what we can manage the risk of losing. This might not be the very best advice, but it will keep one on a safer side if things doesn't work out well.

It is true that investment has its own profit and loss side and it depends on how we choose to invest our funds. Many people prefer to invest in already listed coin or token because they are sure of their sustainability and reliability possibly there would likely be no compromise when listed on exchange but presale is kind of risky these days as many people feel they might be scammed of their funds since such project has not fully established its presense in the Crypto space. Although people still take the risk of investing in such project but I believe they do that with the funds they could afford to lose but however, if the project succeeds, they will be in profit because they invested at the earliest stage and accumulated the coin as early adopters of such project.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: libert19 on January 17, 2025, 12:42:01 PM
I prefer investing in already established coins, I don't have much faith in pre-sales tbh. I used to invest in pre-sales back in 2017-'18, I was burned by few. Sure, you can blame my choices, but those have left sour taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 17, 2025, 03:04:13 PM
I prefer investing in already established coins, I don't have much faith in pre-sales tbh. I used to invest in pre-sales back in 2017-'18, I was burned by few. Sure, you can blame my choices, but those have left sour taste in my mouth.
Investing in pre-sale is riskier, because we don't know the future of a coin that hasn't even been circulated. So I also prefer to invest in coins that have already gained good trust.

However, if we dare to take risks and are accompanied by having large capital, then it depends on us whether we will invest or not. But I myself prefer to invest in coins that are already clear.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 17, 2025, 03:58:45 PM
There is risk when it comes to investment in the crypto industry and this risk depends on the individual as risk levels differ from one person to another.
Most investors will prefer to take the risk of investing on pre-sale, so as to accumulate more of the project coins and hail it off when listed, and most times, the coins list and they make profits.
Other investors prefer to take investment on coins already listed, having seen the growth and development of that project will invest on it.

When it comes to investment, we know profit or losses awaits us up ahead, therefore, it is advisable to invest what we can manage the risk of losing. This might not be the very best advice, but it will keep one on a safer side if things doesn't work out well.

Most pre sales turn into loser not winners. At least in my experience it is what I have seen.

Would be nice to see a chart showing presales to see exactly what is the real percentage of winners vs losers.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on January 17, 2025, 03:59:12 PM
I prefer investing in already established coins, I don't have much faith in pre-sales tbh. I used to invest in pre-sales back in 2017-'18, I was burned by few. Sure, you can blame my choices, but those have left sour taste in my mouth.
Investing in pre-sale is riskier, because we don't know the future of a coin that hasn't even been circulated. So I also prefer to invest in coins that have already gained good trust.

However, if we dare to take risks and are accompanied by having large capital, then it depends on us whether we will invest or not. But I myself prefer to invest in coins that are already clear.
Investing in pre-sale is not on the trend now, there are so many investors had been scammed and lose a large amount of money in the last cycle of Bitcoin. So now, many investors have learned on that, so only new investors can be a potential victim by the scammers. However, I didn't say that all pre-sale is a scam but most of them. So I prefer investing in a coin that is already listed in the exchange.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 17, 2025, 04:05:29 PM
      -       Well for me, the risk is higher in pre-sales compared to coins that are already listed on exchanges whether cex or dex. But if you are in a hurry, you will also make a lot of money in pre-sales. That's why it happens very rarely.

That's why I prefer to buy when after presales it is listed on the exchange, and this is often done and it still depends on the crypto assets.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: armanda90 on January 17, 2025, 04:59:49 PM
Many new project opening pre sale event not worth it yet for right now because price huge decreasing from pre sale until listing at the market, must selective for participating at pre sale coins project because most of them just take care how to earn much money from investor and their coins sold out without have good plan for the future.
Difficult to find most profitable project buying at pre sale because most of them won't listing their coins at bigger exchange and won't looking for top partner to make project more popular. If interested with pre sale better looking for pre sale project have limited user for participating.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 17, 2025, 08:24:03 PM
For me, the crypto pre-sales were pretty good when NFTs were starting, those projects that the games had before, but then that became nothing, that fell too much, some projects were scams, and all of this was profitable at the time, I think for 6 months it was good, but after that it was not the same, so thanks to these things that became like that, it no longer has any confidence, now the new projects, tokens and that, can be good, but you have to do a lot of analysis.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: legend45 on January 17, 2025, 10:12:10 PM
For me, the crypto pre-sales were pretty good when NFTs were starting, those projects that the games had before, but then that became nothing, that fell too much, some projects were scams, and all of this was profitable at the time, I think for 6 months it was good, but after that it was not the same, so thanks to these things that became like that, it no longer has any confidence, now the new projects, tokens and that, can be good, but you have to do a lot of analysis.
If you want to participate in presale, we have to make analysis and do deeper research in order to choose a good project and get high profit. This requires expertise and experience in doing research on new projects. I don't have much experience so I can't tell you much about how to do analysis and research on new projects.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Zed0X on January 17, 2025, 10:23:59 PM
For me, the crypto pre-sales were pretty good when NFTs were starting, those projects that the games had before, but then that became nothing, that fell too much, some projects were scams, and all of this was profitable at the time, I think for 6 months it was good, but after that it was not the same, so thanks to these things that became like that, it no longer has any confidence, now the new projects, tokens and that, can be good, but you have to do a lot of analysis.
A lot of analysis would on pre-sales would be a waste of time nowadays ;D This would have work during the boom of the first batch of initial offerings because the new projects back then were really serious in pushing crypto. Now, I would say more than 95% is just money grab for developers and like gambling for investors. It's more efficient to just wait and see how they perform months/years after they were launched.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on January 17, 2025, 10:28:28 PM
I prefer investing in already established coins, I don't have much faith in pre-sales tbh. I used to invest in pre-sales back in 2017-'18, I was burned by few. Sure, you can blame my choices, but those have left sour taste in my mouth.

In recent times, I have seen a lot of improvement in many pre-sales. Back then, there is no assurance about initial coin offering but now, there is a more transparency in everything sold as crypto. Some of the crypto projects that also engage on sales recently are very mindful of token sales because they know it can land them in jail in the future.

We have launchpads everywhere right now where crypto projects get accepted to conduct a community token sales, some popular lauxnpad don't just accept anyhow projects, they even go as far as making it tough for projects to get enlisted on their platform so that there is going to be demand and good profits for eligible participants.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 18, 2025, 03:20:40 AM
In recent times, I have seen a lot of improvement in many pre-sales. Back then, there is no assurance about initial coin offering but now, there is a more transparency in everything sold as crypto. Some of the crypto projects that also engage on sales recently are very mindful of token sales because they know it can land them in jail in the future.
really? i have not seen many to be honest though i suppose there are really much more scammers with initial coin offerings before compared to now
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some popular lauxnpad don't just accept anyhow projects, they even go as far as making it tough for projects to get enlisted on their platform so that there is going to be demand and good profits for eligible participants.
the kind of projects they allow into their platforms would reflect heavily on the kind of platform they are so of course they want to be as thorough as possible if they just let any kinds of projects and end up costing their users then it’s their credibility and reputation that will be on the line
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: KryptoBull on January 18, 2025, 11:47:17 AM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
I am a cautious investor, so I only invest in tokens that have been listed on major CEXs like Binance and Coinbase because they have been vetted by the CEXs' teams to verify the necessary information. ICOs have given me many bad experiences so I no longer trust them even though they may offer x1000 opportunities.

I also often refer to fundamental analysis videos to better understand the solutions of new projects before buying their tokens. This also helps me take advantage of big trends in the market when hundreds of potentially promising projects emerge during crypto winters.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 18, 2025, 12:36:02 PM
Yes, it absolutely better to invest on already existing coin/tokens that are doing very well on the market constantly.
What i meant by already existing coin/tokens, i am particular of some old coins which has survived several market dumps, bear runs, dips, markets corrections to date. If you take a look at the Coinmarketcap ranking, you may observed that certain coin/tokens has been consistent, like most of the first 50 coin/tokens. Many newly listed coin/tokens in recent times can not survive just one market dumps(that is, Btc dump).
There are great differences between many of the old coins and a vast majority of the newly listed coins in term of liquidity, trading volumes, marketcap, and most importantly, the possibility of continuity especially when bear run enters the market.
You may agree with me that so many coin/tokens projects has crashed or dead, but majority of the old coins like, Ada, LTC, Bch, TRX, Matic, XLM, Link, Dot, BNB, Sol etc, are still waxing stronger by the day.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 18, 2025, 03:18:20 PM
Investing in pre-sale is riskier, because we don't know the future of a coin that hasn't even been circulated. So I also prefer to invest in coins that have already gained good trust.

However, if we dare to take risks and are accompanied by having large capital, then it depends on us whether we will invest or not. But I myself prefer to invest in coins that are already clear.
Investing in pre-sale is not on the trend now, there are so many investors had been scammed and lose a large amount of money in the last cycle of Bitcoin. So now, many investors have learned on that, so only new investors can be a potential victim by the scammers. However, I didn't say that all pre-sale is a scam but most of them. So I prefer investing in a coin that is already listed in the exchange.
Well, we also have to learn from what other people feel, other people's experiences can be a lesson for us. Especially in this digital era, it will be easy for us to listen to other people's experiences because they share them a lot on various social media platforms.

If we haven't felt it ourselves, then we can consider by seeing what other people have experienced.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 18, 2025, 03:47:45 PM
Well, we also have to learn from what other people feel, other people's experiences can be a lesson for us. Especially in this digital era, it will be easy for us to listen to other people's experiences because they share them a lot on various social media platforms.
If we haven't felt it ourselves, then we can consider by seeing what other people have experienced.
Yes it's actually very important for us to take notes of events and problems that others have faced in different Fields especially in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. This is because it makes it easier for us to evaluate both the problems and the solutions. Cryptocurrency ecosystems can be a place to bag huge profit and simultaneously if not taken proper advantage of can make you lose a lot too.

Understanding and experience is where people fail to major in most of the time when dealing with cryptocurrencies and as a result they often end up losing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Rubel007 on January 18, 2025, 05:34:17 PM
As an investor, would you like to invest on presale or rather invest on coins already in the crypto market?
We see presale as a way New Projects use in raising funds to develop their project and have enough funds at listing on Crypto exchanges.
Presale is a very good way of making profits for investors because they are likely to purchase the token at lower price, always lesser than listing price, and when the token is listed successfully... it's a mega profit making, but we see different projects sometimes are unable to meet up hardcap or even softcap at presale and making listing impossible. Investors are likely to run on loss because they don't possibly refund them when project isn't successful.
On the other hand, investment on tokens already listed on exchanges are likely to bring profit to investors but it takes a long time, even more longer when market is going down.
I'll like to hear from y'all. What's your take, Investing on Presale or on coin already listed on exchanges?
I am a cautious investor, so I only invest in tokens that have been listed on major CEXs like Binance and Coinbase because they have been vetted by the CEXs' teams to verify the necessary information. ICOs have given me many bad experiences so I no longer trust them even though they may offer x1000 opportunities.
The profits in ICO projects were high, but the losses were not low either. Particularly when scammers entered this platform, people's interest in it gradually decreased. I myself have faced huge losses by investing in some ICO projects, and since then I have stopped myself from such investments. When I can be sure that a token will be listed on any top-ranked exchange, I try to invest in all those tokens. However, there is a problem here too that even though most projects promise to be listed on big exchanges, not everyone can do it. That is why caution is needed when investing.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: JISAN on January 18, 2025, 06:51:16 PM
Investing during pre-sale is risky and very profitable.  Because when a coin is sold in pre-sale, if the coin is good, then it can be several times the price of the pre-sale in the market.  But if you buy a coin after it comes to the market, you rarely get a huge profit from it.  However, if you don't take risks in life, you can't gain.  But to invest in pre-sale you need to have the ability to take risk as well as the ability to accept loss.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 18, 2025, 07:28:10 PM
Investing during pre-sale is risky and very profitable.  Because when a coin is sold in pre-sale, if the coin is good, then it can be several times the price of the pre-sale in the market.  But if you buy a coin after it comes to the market, you rarely get a huge profit from it.  However, if you don't take risks in life, you can't gain.  But to invest in pre-sale you need to have the ability to take risk as well as the ability to accept loss.
Yeah I agree that if no guts no glory but nowadays where memecoins are on trend I can see them being on presale once again this reminds me of those projects that launches ICO's that always had presales back in 2017 but my question here is that given the risk that comes with these kind off investment, is it even worth it?
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: doc on January 18, 2025, 10:24:51 PM
Investing during pre-sale is risky and very profitable.  Because when a coin is sold in pre-sale, if the coin is good, then it can be several times the price of the pre-sale in the market.  But if you buy a coin after it comes to the market, you rarely get a huge profit from it.  However, if you don't take risks in life, you can't gain.  But to invest in pre-sale you need to have the ability to take risk as well as the ability to accept loss.
Yeah I agree that if no guts no glory but nowadays where memecoins are on trend I can see them being on presale once again this reminds me of those projects that launches ICO's that always had presales back in 2017 but my question here is that given the risk that comes with these kind off investment, is it even worth it?
If we talk about the risks involved in investing in meme coins, it's actually not worth it if we don't have the knowledge to research the project. because the risk is very high. Moreover, there are so many meme cpoins that are only used as projects to gain profits for their developers without thinking about the sustainability of the project. I prefer projects that have clear uses, especially top coins.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on January 19, 2025, 06:52:11 AM
If we talk about the risks involved in investing in meme coins, it's actually not worth it if we don't have the knowledge to research the project. because the risk is very high. Moreover, there are so many meme cpoins that are only used as projects to gain profits for their developers without thinking about the sustainability of the project. I prefer projects that have clear uses, especially top coins.
Indeed, meme coins imply high risks, which are rather justified if we have no profound knowledge of the particular project. Most of them are just made with an aim of earning fast cash at the shortest period possible with little or no regard to their future or any genuine benefits that one has to gain from being associated with them. Selecting a project which has its utility well grounded is actually a much smarter approach that can guarantee more longevity in the investment we make. With increased focus on the top coins that are stable and have a good reputation it becomes easy to achieve stable returns. So, spending more time on researching before making a choice, we are able to preserve our properties while having a chance for a more effective development of the opportunities.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Azharul on January 19, 2025, 02:05:46 PM
Investing during pre-sale is risky and very profitable.  Because when a coin is sold in pre-sale, if the coin is good, then it can be several times the price of the pre-sale in the market.  But if you buy a coin after it comes to the market, you rarely get a huge profit from it.  However, if you don't take risks in life, you can't gain.  But to invest in pre-sale you need to have the ability to take risk as well as the ability to accept loss.
Yeah I agree that if no guts no glory but nowadays where memecoins are on trend I can see them being on presale once again this reminds me of those projects that launches ICO's that always had presales back in 2017 but my question here is that given the risk that comes with these kind off investment, is it even worth it?
If we talk about the risks involved in investing in meme coins, it's actually not worth it if we don't have the knowledge to research the project. because the risk is very high. Moreover, there are so many meme cpoins that are only used as projects to gain profits for their developers without thinking about the sustainability of the project. I prefer projects that have clear uses, especially top coins.
Presale market is always depending on very risky. But we also know that presale market is also very important for all crypto users. Because we can get best profit from here. We also know that cryptocurrency market is always depending on risk. So I think that it will be very helpful for us. But we also know that Cryptocurrency market is already best crypto currency sell market. But we can get little benefits from here. But we also know that if we could understand easily, then it will be very helpful for us.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 19, 2025, 02:19:12 PM
Well, we also have to learn from what other people feel, other people's experiences can be a lesson for us. Especially in this digital era, it will be easy for us to listen to other people's experiences because they share them a lot on various social media platforms.
If we haven't felt it ourselves, then we can consider by seeing what other people have experienced.
Yes it's actually very important for us to take notes of events and problems that others have faced in different Fields especially in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. This is because it makes it easier for us to evaluate both the problems and the solutions. Cryptocurrency ecosystems can be a place to bag huge profit and simultaneously if not taken proper advantage of can make you lose a lot too.

Understanding and experience is where people fail to major in most of the time when dealing with cryptocurrencies and as a result they often end up losing.
In addition to sharing their failures, they also usually share where the mistakes are that made them have to feel failure.

One thing I have read from someone's experience is when they experience failure because of FOMO. Well here we can take a very valuable lesson and indeed in this crypto space, one thing we must avoid is FOMO for a coin that becomes a hype.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on January 19, 2025, 03:26:26 PM
Well, we also have to learn from what other people feel, other people's experiences can be a lesson for us. Especially in this digital era, it will be easy for us to listen to other people's experiences because they share them a lot on various social media platforms.
If we haven't felt it ourselves, then we can consider by seeing what other people have experienced.
Yes it's actually very important for us to take notes of events and problems that others have faced in different Fields especially in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. This is because it makes it easier for us to evaluate both the problems and the solutions. Cryptocurrency ecosystems can be a place to bag huge profit and simultaneously if not taken proper advantage of can make you lose a lot too.

Understanding and experience is where people fail to major in most of the time when dealing with cryptocurrencies and as a result they often end up losing.
In addition to sharing their failures, they also usually share where the mistakes are that made them have to feel failure.

One thing I have read from someone's experience is when they experience failure because of FOMO. Well here we can take a very valuable lesson and indeed in this crypto space, one thing we must avoid is FOMO for a coin that becomes a hype.
I agree with that. Losing a trade makes them feel their strategy is not working or they failed. But in reality, losing is normal. Not all of us lose in trading because of the mistakes we have made, sometimes it is because of our strategy. There is no perfect strategy, so even if we follow the criteria very carefully, there is still a possibility that we will lose. We also prove it with our backtest, losing trades will never disappear. But what's important is that in your overall trades you are still profitable.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 19, 2025, 09:43:22 PM

If you want to participate in presale, we have to make analysis and do deeper research in order to choose a good project and get high profit. This requires expertise and experience in doing research on new projects. I don't have much experience so I can't tell you much about how to do analysis and research on new projects.
I have seen many articles and many things about Trump and the cryptocurrency, I know that there was already a presale where of course I did not participate because there was not what they said: a unique opportunity to win with Trump, it is predicted that now this crypto could reach higher, but there is the danger that it could drop suddenly, but it is still one of the things and opportunities that I missed, but it is difficult, to have a group where people say something like that there is none, and here in the forum, the truth is that I did not review the part of these tokens, I think that they are things that should be considered, and good luck to those who bought this currency.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: debra on January 19, 2025, 11:39:16 PM
Presale market is always depending on very risky. But we also know that presale market is also very important for all crypto users. Because we can get best profit from here. We also know that cryptocurrency market is always depending on risk. So I think that it will be very helpful for us. But we also know that Cryptocurrency market is already best crypto currency sell market. But we can get little benefits from here. But we also know that if we could understand easily, then it will be very helpful for us.
Indeed, it is riskier if we buy coins in a presale stage. But if the coin will be successful, we probably get big profits if we buy in the presale. I think the risk is worth to the chance of getting big profits. So, we must deal with the bigger risks if we want to get huge profits from buying in the presale stage. Meanwhile if we buy when the coin is already in many exchanges, it will be safe for us. But the chance of huge profits will be smaller because the price change won't be very significant again in a short time.

Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 22, 2025, 03:21:16 PM
In addition to sharing their failures, they also usually share where the mistakes are that made them have to feel failure.

One thing I have read from someone's experience is when they experience failure because of FOMO. Well here we can take a very valuable lesson and indeed in this crypto space, one thing we must avoid is FOMO for a coin that becomes a hype.
I agree with that. Losing a trade makes them feel their strategy is not working or they failed. But in reality, losing is normal. Not all of us lose in trading because of the mistakes we have made, sometimes it is because of our strategy. There is no perfect strategy, so even if we follow the criteria very carefully, there is still a possibility that we will lose. We also prove it with our backtest, losing trades will never disappear. But what's important is that in your overall trades you are still profitable.
Profit and loss are 2 things that cannot be separated, it is like 2 sides of a coin. However, it cannot be said that it is normal if the loss continues to repeat itself in very frequent intensity, because that means there is something wrong with our strategy.

What must be done is we must see what is actually wrong with our strategy and we can take a break from trading to analyze what mistakes we made.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: armanda90 on January 22, 2025, 03:34:06 PM
Profit and loss are 2 things that cannot be separated, it is like 2 sides of a coin. However, it cannot be said that it is normal if the loss continues to repeat itself in very frequent intensity, because that means there is something wrong with our strategy.

What must be done is we must see what is actually wrong with our strategy and we can take a break from trading to analyze what mistakes we made.
Before trading or investing we have accept the policy of risk with coins possibility going down or earn much profitable if coins going up, we can't avoid from two possibilities when trading in cryptocurrency or other investment way because always have risk and profitable earn.
Its important research firstly before trading at cryptocurrency and must check fully about coins want to trade or get bad result later with easily going down. If wrong strategy in trading or investing have bad possibility with loss our capital but if right research we can earn much profitable.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: JISAN on January 22, 2025, 03:44:34 PM
Profit and loss are 2 things that cannot be separated, it is like 2 sides of a coin. However, it cannot be said that it is normal if the loss continues to repeat itself in very frequent intensity, because that means there is something wrong with our strategy.

What must be done is we must see what is actually wrong with our strategy and we can take a break from trading to analyze what mistakes we made.
Before trading or investing we have accept the policy of risk with coins possibility going down or earn much profitable if coins going up, we can't avoid from two possibilities when trading in cryptocurrency or other investment way because always have risk and profitable earn.
Its important research firstly before trading at cryptocurrency and must check fully about coins want to trade or get bad result later with easily going down. If wrong strategy in trading or investing have bad possibility with loss our capital but if right research we can earn much profitable.
Why trading is done is because crypto is volatile and it is normal for a token to go up and down in price. And by predicting it, one can understand when the price will increase and when it will decrease and can profit. Just like investing in presale is risky, buying tokens from the market is also risky. tokens are bought from the presale by predicting the future of the project and analyzing how much support there is behind the project, as well as buying tokens from the market by chart analysis and MC and FDV calculations.  So you have to know the analysis properly why you don't invest there
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on January 22, 2025, 11:25:49 PM
Profit and loss are 2 things that cannot be separated, it is like 2 sides of a coin. However, it cannot be said that it is normal if the loss continues to repeat itself in very frequent intensity, because that means there is something wrong with our strategy.

What must be done is we must see what is actually wrong with our strategy and we can take a break from trading to analyze what mistakes we made.
Before trading or investing we have accept the policy of risk with coins possibility going down or earn much profitable if coins going up, we can't avoid from two possibilities when trading in cryptocurrency or other investment way because always have risk and profitable earn.
Its important research firstly before trading at cryptocurrency and must check fully about coins want to trade or get bad result later with easily going down. If wrong strategy in trading or investing have bad possibility with loss our capital but if right research we can earn much profitable.
Why trading is done is because crypto is volatile and it is normal for a token to go up and down in price. And by predicting it, one can understand when the price will increase and when it will decrease and can profit. Just like investing in presale is risky, buying tokens from the market is also risky. tokens are bought from the presale by predicting the future of the project and analyzing how much support there is behind the project, as well as buying tokens from the market by chart analysis and MC and FDV calculations.  So you have to know the analysis properly why you don't invest there
I agree with you, we must do research first about the coins we are going to trade, understand the market and make the right strategy. If our strategy is wrong, we will experience losses. It takes a lot of caution in trading and it takes experience to be able to become skilled in trading.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: MUGNIA on January 23, 2025, 12:04:10 AM
In my opinion, pre-sales rarely provide profits during my observations, where the prices after listing are mostly worthless, even if they do provide profits, they are not comparable to expectations.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 23, 2025, 02:22:27 PM
Profit and loss are 2 things that cannot be separated, it is like 2 sides of a coin. However, it cannot be said that it is normal if the loss continues to repeat itself in very frequent intensity, because that means there is something wrong with our strategy.

What must be done is we must see what is actually wrong with our strategy and we can take a break from trading to analyze what mistakes we made.
Before trading or investing we have accept the policy of risk with coins possibility going down or earn much profitable if coins going up, we can't avoid from two possibilities when trading in cryptocurrency or other investment way because always have risk and profitable earn.
Its important research firstly before trading at cryptocurrency and must check fully about coins want to trade or get bad result later with easily going down. If wrong strategy in trading or investing have bad possibility with loss our capital but if right research we can earn much profitable.
Yes you are right, roughly before we really jump into trading or investing, then we should be very prepared for a risk in other words we can accept bad things happening to us.

Thus, we will be better able to prepare everything and also we will use money that we are ready to lose. Because if we look at the profit at the beginning, then we will be careless in doing something.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on January 23, 2025, 02:36:59 PM
In my opinion, pre-sales rarely provide profits during my observations, where the prices after listing are mostly worthless, even if they do provide profits, they are not comparable to expectations.

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: armanda90 on January 23, 2025, 04:01:09 PM
Yes you are right, roughly before we really jump into trading or investing, then we should be very prepared for a risk in other words we can accept bad things happening to us.

Thus, we will be better able to prepare everything and also we will use money that we are ready to lose. Because if we look at the profit at the beginning, then we will be careless in doing something.
Its important points when trading in cryptocurrency must prepare capital or money we are ready to lose, never use your saving fund or emergency fund for trading because have high risk with coins investing get dump drastically. I think when using free money in trading not get huge pressure if loss although must be careful or keep analyze firstly before which one coins have to buy.
Sometime many people use their saving fund for trading or investing in cryptocurrency, most of them brave to trade at future trading although have extremely high risk than spot trading.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: albon on January 23, 2025, 09:08:21 PM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on January 23, 2025, 09:23:35 PM
In my opinion, pre-sales rarely provide profits during my observations, where the prices after listing are mostly worthless, even if they do provide profits, they are not comparable to expectations.

Maybe you didn't get into pre-sales and public sales with good projects backing. Before I can participate on any project I see, they must have a good product they are working on and they must always have some some real people around then that's backing the project, this things give the project a pre pump and don't dump below your buy value.

Exchange that list this coins which are mostly the centralized exchanges are also given this information to help prevent dump of the coins. There is no way a project will dump on listing day if it's has strong product and utilits, this is what helps boost the price of a coin even though you don't avoid dumping.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on January 23, 2025, 11:53:24 PM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.
investing in crypto with pre-sale is very risky. We have to do the new project research and have to gain experience in investing in new projects because the risk is greater. and many dev teams are only looking for profit and do not think about the continuation of the project.
Indeed, we will get big profits if the project is successful but the possibility of failure is greater.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on January 24, 2025, 10:37:47 AM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.
investing in crypto with pre-sale is very risky. We have to do the new project research and have to gain experience in investing in new projects because the risk is greater. and many dev teams are only looking for profit and do not think about the continuation of the project.
Indeed, we will get big profits if the project is successful but the possibility of failure is greater.
Investing on presale will really be that risky and thats why you do need to consider on different criteria and factors on which you do need up to look at like solid partnerships, community support, and utility but just like on what most people been saying that community support would really be the key because even on the shittiest coin could shoot up its price without having that good utility and backups but ending up on having that good community hype and support on which it did really that make out such value of the price and this what makes this market is really that unpredictable and this is why there are those people who do really gambled out and risks out even more because they do know about the probabilities or could really be able to happen.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on January 24, 2025, 11:23:25 AM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.
investing in crypto with pre-sale is very risky. We have to do the new project research and have to gain experience in investing in new projects because the risk is greater. and many dev teams are only looking for profit and do not think about the continuation of the project.
Indeed, we will get big profits if the project is successful but the possibility of failure is greater.
It is true that investing in particular crypto especially in the pre-sale stage is something that should be rightfully done with care from all of us. Any action taken needs to be judged and justified by examination of the information available about the project to be funded. Of course, the existence of high profit in the case when a particular project will be successful must not blind us for the fact that there are serious risks exist, and one of them is the disruption of the project. That is why it is necessary for us to keep on learning, practising analysis, and not hasten making decisions. Giving more focus on facts and data will surely assist us in deciding on which project should be included in our list of investment opportunities.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: tequilla_sunset on January 24, 2025, 01:29:32 PM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.

It's about good analysis put into the project.
And even then - how can you get to know what would happen after the eventual launch of the project? Community sentiment is sometimes working in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on January 24, 2025, 02:29:39 PM
Yes you are right, roughly before we really jump into trading or investing, then we should be very prepared for a risk in other words we can accept bad things happening to us.

Thus, we will be better able to prepare everything and also we will use money that we are ready to lose. Because if we look at the profit at the beginning, then we will be careless in doing something.
Its important points when trading in cryptocurrency must prepare capital or money we are ready to lose, never use your saving fund or emergency fund for trading because have high risk with coins investing get dump drastically. I think when using free money in trading not get huge pressure if loss although must be careful or keep analyze firstly before which one coins have to buy.
Sometime many people use their saving fund for trading or investing in cryptocurrency, most of them brave to trade at future trading although have extremely high risk than spot trading.
Even if someone uses free money to trade, if their mentality is not ready to experience losses, then they will also panic.

I am sure some people who are experienced now were also like that at first. But it will be a very valuable experience, because in trading, mentality is something that is very important. If we have a good mentality, then it can prevent us from making wrong decisions that are often experienced by people who are afraid.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: albon on January 24, 2025, 03:20:03 PM

It's a high-risk - high-reward type of thing.
But usually - it would lead to losses, especially on the volatile market like now  ;)

Pre sales strategy can be beneficial to both cryptocurrency developers and investors and help ensure the success of the coin before it is launched. Investors participating in the pre sale receive altcoins that they can add to their portfolios. There is some risk in that if a project fails after launch investors may lose their money on worthless assets. But investors should keep in mind that they are buying the asset during the pre sale as they may aim to sell it at a favorable price only after the launch.

It's about good analysis put into the project.
And even then - how can you get to know what would happen after the eventual launch of the project? Community sentiment is sometimes working in mysterious ways.
We cannot take any action on the matter because if the project scams after the token sales then our fund will be loss. Although the promotion hype of a scam project is not so much, but those who enter the pre sales market without any kind of research due to excessive greed are quick victims of scam. Simply put, a scam project never gets support from a big company so you will quickly understand this.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Agbe on January 24, 2025, 03:31:15 PM
It's always advisable for any investor who is going into crypto currency to always invest into tokens that are still in the presale stage because the purpose of investment is to make profit and presale tokens can give you that profits if they are successful launched and listed in the coin market and if the coin  listing price is good then your sure of making profit on your investment there are times that some presale projects may not do well when listed but that is business for you some time you make loss but the over all i will advise people to invest into coins on the presale stage because if the listing price of a token you  invested into is good then your sure smile of smiling into the Bank
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 24, 2025, 03:49:07 PM
It's always advisable for any investor who is going into crypto currency to always invest into tokens that are still in the presale stage because the purpose of investment is to make profit and presale tokens can give you that profits if they are successful launched and listed in the coin market and if the coin  listing price is good then your sure of making profit on your investment there are times that some presale projects may not do well when listed but that is business for you some time you make loss but the over all i will advise people to invest into coins on the presale stage because if the listing price of a token you  invested into is good then your sure smile of smiling into the Bank

         -      Majority of the pre-sales are really high risk, because you are really looking for something that you will use as an investment to earn in the future. Just always do it buy at your own risk. That's always the case in this field of crypto space.

Although in real life I have never experienced investing in pre-sales, but I have experienced buying crypto assets after pre-sales and they have been listed on the after exchange listing on the spot as long as they are on the top exchange listing in the market.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: BitMaxz on January 24, 2025, 04:01:13 PM
-      Majority of the pre-sales are really high risk, because you are really looking for something that you will use as an investment to earn in the future. Just always do it buy at your own risk. That's always the case in this field of crypto space.

Although in real life I have never experienced investing in pre-sales, but I have experienced buying crypto assets after pre-sales and they have been listed on the after exchange listing on the spot as long as they are on the top exchange listing in the market.

I've tried to invest in presales, but I don't get what I expected, so I agree that pre-sales are very high-risk. If you decide to invest in any of these, make sure to conduct extensive research first to determine whether the project is actually useful and has a future, or invest only what you can afford to lose.

Due to this experience, I no longer invest in presales; instead, if they have any bonuses or airdrops, I may participate because it is free; at the very least, if the project becomes useless, has no use case, and the price drops, you have only wasted your time compared to buying in presales.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on January 24, 2025, 04:30:17 PM
We cannot take any action on the matter because if the project scams after the token sales then our fund will be loss. Although the promotion hype of a scam project is not so much, but those who enter the pre sales market without any kind of research due to excessive greed are quick victims of scam. Simply put, a scam project never gets support from a big company so you will quickly understand this.
Yeah, investing in a new project always involves a lot of risks, especially when investors lack the ability to perform fundamental analysis to recognize the project true potential. Fundamental analysis teams will need to examine the project #DevelopmentTeam , solution, tokenomics, and backing from major industry funds before participating in the Pre-Sale and purchasing new tokens.

New investors should refer to such honest and professional reviews to make more informed investment decisions. If they want to ensure the safety of their capital, investors can choose the best tokens on the market such as BTC and ETH.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: albon on January 24, 2025, 05:37:02 PM

I've tried to invest in presales, but I don't get what I expected, so I agree that pre-sales are very high-risk. If you decide to invest in any of these, make sure to conduct extensive research first to determine whether the project is actually useful and has a future, or invest only what you can afford to lose.

I made profit from pre sales of few projects from 2017 to 2020. But that time was very risky for me because since 2018 there were many scam project so most of the investors were losing. I waited for about 5 years for a project and i thought they would scam. But finally they were listed in exchange in 2024 and i got a profit. The project was GMRX, they have long been fooled by investors, and now their token prices are going to die completely.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 09:16:57 PM
Its not about presale investment alone, but we need to make more thorough search about the kind of coin or token we are going for, because not all of them really have what it takes to be productive in terms of their investors, developer as well as project liquidity they posses, all these factors are import to look into before we can go in for something we don't really know about in crypto.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: doc on January 24, 2025, 10:22:37 PM
Its not about presale investment alone, but we need to make more thorough search about the kind of coin or token we are going for, because not all of them really have what it takes to be productive in terms of their investors, developer as well as project liquidity they posses, all these factors are import to look into before we can go in for something we don't really know about in crypto.
For new tokens, it is better to do fundamental analysis and really study the project and its team. This is very difficult sometimes finding information about the team behind it is difficult to find because the crypto world is semi-anonymous. Honestly, I don't have much experience with new projects, so I prefer to invest in old projects because they have been proven to have a large community.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Hisbullah on January 24, 2025, 10:57:14 PM

I've tried to invest in presales, but I don't get what I expected, so I agree that pre-sales are very high-risk. If you decide to invest in any of these, make sure to conduct extensive research first to determine whether the project is actually useful and has a future, or invest only what you can afford to lose.

I made profit from pre sales of few projects from 2017 to 2020. But that time was very risky for me because since 2018 there were many scam project so most of the investors were losing. I waited for about 5 years for a project and i thought they would scam. But finally they were listed in exchange in 2024 and i got a profit. The project was GMRX, they have long been fooled by investors, and now their token prices are going to die completely.
GMRX has been listed on the exchange but I see it has not shown good progress. I don't think this project will die because I see the team is still active, let's just wait and see what will happen this year during the altcoin season, will GMRX survive?
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on January 25, 2025, 09:48:40 PM
Its not about presale investment alone, but we need to make more thorough search about the kind of coin or token we are going for, because not all of them really have what it takes to be productive in terms of their investors, developer as well as project liquidity they posses, all these factors are import to look into before we can go in for something we don't really know about in crypto.
For new tokens, it is better to do fundamental analysis and really study the project and its team. This is very difficult sometimes finding information about the team behind it is difficult to find because the crypto world is semi-anonymous. Honestly, I don't have much experience with new projects, so I prefer to invest in old projects because they have been proven to have a large community.
Yes, It does take more effort to assess new tokens, not to mention the information about the project as well as the team behind it is usually hard to come by. We should be very cautious in undertaking certain actions as the crypto space is rather murky at times. That’s why in the given circumstances one can select the option to invest in the popular and lucrative film with a backing of a solid community. While the coverage of a large number of people points to the fact that the project has passed various tests, there is greater confidence in its stability. It can be quite rational and prudent to be careful on avoiding risks which aren’t necessary when investing yet at the same time ensure that we are comfortable with the risks we are taking.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: New Ranger on January 29, 2025, 11:28:06 AM
Indeed that is one of the good points of users entering early and getting cheap prices compared to buying after they list their coins on the exchange where after listing the price will drop and dumping from buyers at the beginning of the event is very likely to occur. On the other hand, checks and rechecks must be done to check their seriousness, meaning that they should not run away in the middle of the road, this can be indicated by their website being dead, their telegram channel being off and their twitter being zero activity.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bounceback on January 29, 2025, 02:22:15 PM
For right now, difficult to earn much profitable from pre sale project coins after many pre sale have bad ending with most cheapest price when listing at market. Right now have to check very carefully when joining any pre sale project with potential hit x10 from pre sale price when listing at market by looking which one top exchange listing.
Right now looks more profitable coins already listing at exchange than joining or buying at pre sale coins project, we can't expected will price hit twice from pre sale price or not when listing at market. Due many pre sale project won't spend much fees for listing at top market will make difficult earn much profitable by investing at pre sale.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Doovla on January 29, 2025, 02:26:52 PM
It's a bigger hit if you're in a project that has Presale, because the price will be thrown out immediately on the first listing date on the exchange because you're immediately in profit, you don't have to wait that long.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bitcoin-shark on February 03, 2025, 09:40:02 PM
Personally, I don't think that Ethereum is going through a period of crisis, despite having lost around 19% of its value in this period, it still remains the second most important altcoin after bitcoin, I'm sure it will rise stronger than before
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Agbe on February 06, 2025, 09:44:40 PM
For right now, difficult to earn much profitable from pre sale project coins after many pre sale have bad ending with most cheapest price when listing at market. Right now have to check very carefully when joining any pre sale project with potential hit x10 from pre sale price when listing at market by looking which one top exchange listing.
Right now looks more profitable coins already listing at exchange than joining or buying at pre sale coins project, we can't expected will price hit twice from pre sale price or not when listing at market. Due many pre sale project won't spend much fees for listing at top market will make difficult earn much profitable by investing at pre sale.
You're actually right because currently there's different coins that shows potential in the presale stage but only for you to find out that when listed the price is nothing to write home about so it's better that you invest in a coin that has already been listed and you are sure about the price so you can hold it for a while and sell when the price appropriate because it's always wiser that way before you invest in a coin that when listed your invested money will not even come out
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on February 08, 2025, 01:33:49 PM
For right now, difficult to earn much profitable from pre sale project coins after many pre sale have bad ending with most cheapest price when listing at market. Right now have to check very carefully when joining any pre sale project with potential hit x10 from pre sale price when listing at market by looking which one top exchange listing.
Right now looks more profitable coins already listing at exchange than joining or buying at pre sale coins project, we can't expected will price hit twice from pre sale price or not when listing at market. Due many pre sale project won't spend much fees for listing at top market will make difficult earn much profitable by investing at pre sale.
You're actually right because currently there's different coins that shows potential in the presale stage but only for you to find out that when listed the price is nothing to write home about so it's better that you invest in a coin that has already been listed and you are sure about the price so you can hold it for a while and sell when the price appropriate because it's always wiser that way before you invest in a coin that when listed your invested money will not even come out
Yes, before participation in an like that, there are several factors that should be taken into consideration when selecting an appropriate coin for investing in. Some of the promising projects may not generate the anticipated outcome after it has been listed for sale in the market. We do require to be far more discerning as to when long-term potential of an asset should be assessed because the prices tend to swing from one extreme to another. Investing in coins that already have a higher value can be less risky than buying those tokens with rather low potential and investing in them expecting their further increase in value. Waiting and associated perseverance when it comes to price will always be wiser than purchasing a project that has not yet established direction on where it will go.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Rubel007 on February 08, 2025, 05:59:33 PM
For right now, difficult to earn much profitable from pre sale project coins after many pre sale have bad ending with most cheapest price when listing at market. Right now have to check very carefully when joining any pre sale project with potential hit x10 from pre sale price when listing at market by looking which one top exchange listing.
Right now looks more profitable coins already listing at exchange than joining or buying at pre sale coins project, we can't expected will price hit twice from pre sale price or not when listing at market. Due many pre sale project won't spend much fees for listing at top market will make difficult earn much profitable by investing at pre sale.
You're actually right because currently there's different coins that shows potential in the presale stage but only for you to find out that when listed the price is nothing to write home about so it's better that you invest in a coin that has already been listed and you are sure about the price so you can hold it for a while and sell when the price appropriate because it's always wiser that way before you invest in a coin that when listed your invested money will not even come out
Yes, before participation in an like that, there are several factors that should be taken into consideration when selecting an appropriate coin for investing in.
I think it is safer to invest in a good coin listed on the market than to buy from a presale. Although many people have been able to make a lot of money by investing in a presale, the chances of that are very low at the moment. Moreover, we are seeing that some tokens are losing value drastically even after being traded in the market. That is why when it comes to investing, we should definitely invest in some coins that will give return on investment even after a long time.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bounceback on February 08, 2025, 07:37:05 PM
I think it is safer to invest in a good coin listed on the market than to buy from a presale. Although many people have been able to make a lot of money by investing in a presale, the chances of that are very low at the moment. Moreover, we are seeing that some tokens are losing value drastically even after being traded in the market. That is why when it comes to investing, we should definitely invest in some coins that will give return on investment even after a long time.
Many investor expected much profit from buying from pre sale coin, as usually pre sale coins project always have potential hit or increasing up to x10 or possibility to x100 make many people expected for joining and buying coins at pre sale moment. No doubt for last three years ago with pre sale coins project easily hit higher price when listing but for right now but coins already list at market is better than gambling with pre sale project.
Many pre sale coins project get delay and listing with exchange have lower listing fees because won't spending much money for top exchange.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Marivic27 on February 08, 2025, 09:53:40 PM
Many investor invest in presale because there is a chances of big profit when you are lucky and you choose a good projects to invest, but there are also investors that invest in some already listed coin so that they will no fall into scam and they wait for the particular coin to rise and have the opportunity to sell and earn, but for me it is better to do both buying already listed coin and investing into presale for good.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: JISAN on February 08, 2025, 10:40:40 PM
Many investor invest in presale because there is a chances of big profit when you are lucky and you choose a good projects to invest, but there are also investors that invest in some already listed coin so that they will no fall into scam and they wait for the particular coin to rise and have the opportunity to sell and earn, but for me it is better to do both buying already listed coin and investing into presale for good.
Investing in pre-sale can get 5-100x profit from that investment if the project is successful.  A few days ago, a public sale was opened for Binance web3 users which had a limit of 2 million dollars and one could buy coins from there with a maximum amount of 500 dollars and those who parsed it made more than 10x profit as soon as the token started trading on dex only. But must invest in legit projects.  Then it is possible to make much more profit from the pre sale than the coins in the market
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: debra on February 08, 2025, 11:19:07 PM
Many investor invest in presale because there is a chances of big profit when you are lucky and you choose a good projects to invest, but there are also investors that invest in some already listed coin so that they will no fall into scam and they wait for the particular coin to rise and have the opportunity to sell and earn, but for me it is better to do both buying already listed coin and investing into presale for good.
I think the chance for big profits are not so different. We also can get big profits if we invest in the tokens when they are listed in exchanges already. Sometimes, the price can be lower when they are listed in the exchange for the first time. I personally avoid to buy tokens in pre-sale anymore, it is because there are too many scams. It is better to wait for the tokens in the exchanges, it will be more promising when they are listed in exchanges already.


Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: doc on February 08, 2025, 11:21:53 PM
Many investor invest in presale because there is a chances of big profit when you are lucky and you choose a good projects to invest, but there are also investors that invest in some already listed coin so that they will no fall into scam and they wait for the particular coin to rise and have the opportunity to sell and earn, but for me it is better to do both buying already listed coin and investing into presale for good.
Investing in pre-sale can get 5-100x profit from that investment if the project is successful.  A few days ago, a public sale was opened for Binance web3 users which had a limit of 2 million dollars and one could buy coins from there with a maximum amount of 500 dollars and those who parsed it made more than 10x profit as soon as the token started trading on dex only. But must invest in legit projects.  Then it is possible to make much more profit from the pre sale than the coins in the market
participating by buying during pre-sale requires good experience and knowledge about [new projects. We can't invest just by relying on luck from new projects, I've done it several times and suffered losses. Maybe I'm not a smart person in analyzing new projects, that's why I prefer to invest in ytop coins.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on February 09, 2025, 07:33:51 AM
I think it is safer to invest in a good coin listed on the market than to buy from a presale. Although many people have been able to make a lot of money by investing in a presale, the chances of that are very low at the moment. Moreover, we are seeing that some tokens are losing value drastically even after being traded in the market. That is why when it comes to investing, we should definitely invest in some coins that will give return on investment even after a long time.
Yes, deciding on investing in coins that have already been listed on the market does bring comfort compared to pre-sale, and we are able to see the prices and trends, liquidities of the coins, and their real adoption when they are already listed. However, what is particularly important in such a case is that the opportunities of pre-sale are considerably higher than the risks involved except, of course, if the project remains untested in real life. It does not only mean that some tokens, which started trading, have even fallen considerably, so choosing assets is very cautious. Perhaps, investing in assets that would be possible for the fund to have strong chances of endurance in the long run is a better course of action than frequently searching for get rich quick them without much thought.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: target on February 09, 2025, 01:32:09 PM
I think it is safer to invest in a good coin listed on the market than to buy from a presale. Although many people have been able to make a lot of money by investing in a presale, the chances of that are very low at the moment. Moreover, we are seeing that some tokens are losing value drastically even after being traded in the market. That is why when it comes to investing, we should definitely invest in some coins that will give return on investment even after a long time.
Yes, deciding on investing in coins that have already been listed on the market does bring comfort compared to pre-sale, and we are able to see the prices and trends, liquidities of the coins, and their real adoption when they are already listed. However, what is particularly important in such a case is that the opportunities of pre-sale are considerably higher than the risks involved except, of course, if the project remains untested in real life. It does not only mean that some tokens, which started trading, have even fallen considerably, so choosing assets is very cautious. Perhaps, investing in assets that would be possible for the fund to have strong chances of endurance in the long run is a better course of action than frequently searching for get rich quick them without much thought.

When the project is presale on Binance launchpad, there is a high possibility that the token will be listed on binance as well which price could go up first before going down. There is a window chance that you an investor could make profit from presale.

But its highly recommended to just invest on top crypto where its listed for a long time on huge markets because its guaranteed it will not turn scam. but its price will still take time to go up.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 09, 2025, 03:27:18 PM
For right now, difficult to earn much profitable from pre sale project coins after many pre sale have bad ending with most cheapest price when listing at market. Right now have to check very carefully when joining any pre sale project with potential hit x10 from pre sale price when listing at market by looking which one top exchange listing.
Right now looks more profitable coins already listing at exchange than joining or buying at pre sale coins project, we can't expected will price hit twice from pre sale price or not when listing at market. Due many pre sale project won't spend much fees for listing at top market will make difficult earn much profitable by investing at pre sale.
You're actually right because currently there's different coins that shows potential in the presale stage but only for you to find out that when listed the price is nothing to write home about so it's better that you invest in a coin that has already been listed and you are sure about the price so you can hold it for a while and sell when the price appropriate because it's always wiser that way before you invest in a coin that when listed your invested money will not even come out
Yes, before participation in an like that, there are several factors that should be taken into consideration when selecting an appropriate coin for investing in.
I think it is safer to invest in a good coin listed on the market than to buy from a presale. Although many people have been able to make a lot of money by investing in a presale, the chances of that are very low at the moment. Moreover, we are seeing that some tokens are losing value drastically even after being traded in the market. That is why when it comes to investing, we should definitely invest in some coins that will give return on investment even after a long time.

    -         You know you have a point in what you're saying mate, if it were me I would rather invest in crypto assets that have been proven in this crypto space that we're actually in. Because in pre-sales it's still a bit high risk.

Then there's a lot to consider to determine if this is potential in the future. Because it's not really easy to determine if a coin has high quality in this industry.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: bounceback on February 09, 2025, 04:14:47 PM
When the project is presale on Binance launchpad, there is a high possibility that the token will be listed on binance as well which price could go up first before going down. There is a window chance that you an investor could make profit from presale.

But its highly recommended to just invest on top crypto where its listed for a long time on huge markets because its guaranteed it will not turn scam. but its price will still take time to go up.
Surely, when project launch their launchpad at Binance no doubt will raise up to x10 but have small allocated for participating at Binance pre sale. Many user staking much BNB and coins will separated based on how much your BNB coins staking, under 10 BNB just get small coins and difficult can earn many coins from Binance launchpad.
I think difficult for participating at pre sale such as ICO era moment, we can buy all capital for pre sale coins and waiting for listing with higher price at the top market.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: martinex on February 10, 2025, 05:47:38 AM
Surely, when project launch their launchpad at Binance no doubt will raise up to x10 but have small allocated for participating at Binance pre sale. Many user staking much BNB and coins will separated based on how much your BNB coins staking, under 10 BNB just get small coins and difficult can earn many coins from Binance launchpad.
I think difficult for participating at pre sale such as ICO era moment, we can buy all capital for pre sale coins and waiting for listing with higher price at the top market.

I prefer the ones that are already listed on an exchange and ready to launch. As you said above, risk wise, it is safe even though the value can be small and that is because the amount required as a requirement to join the launchpad is very minimal.

If potential ICOs are currently very rare, especially if they commit to listing their coin on one of the top exchanges after the period ends. very rare.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: omori on February 10, 2025, 11:28:14 AM
I prefer the ones that are already listed on an exchange and ready to launch. As you said above, risk wise, it is safe even though the value can be small and that is because the amount required as a requirement to join the launchpad is very minimal.

If potential ICOs are currently very rare, especially if they commit to listing their coin on one of the top exchanges after the period ends. very rare.

It's all about risk / potential management.
But to be sure, and to keep things stable, surely, it's wise to buy the ones that are already listed. However, it probably means that the profit wouldn't be too big..
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on February 10, 2025, 01:35:48 PM
I prefer the ones that are already listed on an exchange and ready to launch. As you said above, risk wise, it is safe even though the value can be small and that is because the amount required as a requirement to join the launchpad is very minimal.

If potential ICOs are currently very rare, especially if they commit to listing their coin on one of the top exchanges after the period ends. very rare.

It's all about risk / potential management.
But to be sure, and to keep things stable, surely, it's wise to buy the ones that are already listed. However, it probably means that the profit wouldn't be too big..
Really recommended that you do only deal up with those coins that being listed on CEX but still not an assured thing gthat you wont be able to lose money because we do know that price could even go more lower after it gets listed. Also, majority of us will really be that trying out to maximize profitability and  thats why they will really trying out to deal up on a coin/token into its earliest days or moments on which this could really be that potentially make them that rich and this is where people do really get interested on investing into these projects but actually its true that there's no issue about this as long you do mind yourself about risks management.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 10, 2025, 03:14:28 PM
Investing in pre-sale can get 5-100x profit from that investment if the project is successful.  A few days ago, a public sale was opened for Binance web3 users which had a limit of 2 million dollars and one could buy coins from there with a maximum amount of 500 dollars and those who parsed it made more than 10x profit as soon as the token started trading on dex only. But must invest in legit projects.  Then it is possible to make much more profit from the pre sale than the coins in the market
That is true that pre-sale sometimes pay you 5x to 1000x profit, and the example you have shown that is also true but the problem is when we were seeing this kind of news everyone beginners to the experienced sometime lose all emotions we don't care about how much we have ability to analysis.
And make investment in pre-sale coins without making proper analysis and most of the cases with faces loss. So that thing we must remind as a caution we have the knowledge of analysis before investing in any coin whatever it is pre-sale or spot.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 10, 2025, 11:03:21 PM
Both the presale coins and the ones already in the crypto market have their good and the bad sides, we cannot just choose on any of this as criteria for us to go for any of them, there needs to be more reason on why choosing them, this will have to start from the search we have conducted about any coin in mind, knowing and having some vital information about the coin and setting a particular target on how to go for the coin, after fulfilling on all these, then we go ahead to what we are aiming at our own risk.
Title: Re: Investing on Presale or coin already in the crypto market?
Post by: omori on February 11, 2025, 10:37:20 AM
Both the presale coins and the ones already in the crypto market have their good and the bad sides, we cannot just choose on any of this as criteria for us to go for any of them, there needs to be more reason on why choosing them, this will have to start from the search we have conducted about any coin in mind, knowing and having some vital information about the coin and setting a particular target on how to go for the coin, after fulfilling on all these, then we go ahead to what we are aiming at our own risk.

Both need the analysis to be made thoroughly before considering the possibility of going in.
And the risks would still be high even while thinking positively about the project and having only good feedback regarding all the metrics for getting a profit from it..