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Title: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: TomPluz on August 05, 2024, 11:58:52 AM

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The recent bloodbath on Satoshi Street has affected all crypto assets, with Bitcoin dropping nearly 20% from its $70,000 high and many altcoins falling by 50% or more. This sharp decline is due to several factors converging to create a perfect storm of market troubles.

Geopolitical tensions are having a significant impact on the market, with rising conflicts affecting investor confidence. As these issues escalate, they create additional challenges for the cryptocurrency market, further destabilizing it.

Fears of a recession are another crucial factor. Economic indicators suggest a potential downturn, leading investors to become more cautious and sell off various assets, including cryptocurrencies. The Sahm Rule Recession Indicator has surpassed the 0.50 threshold, historically indicating the beginning of a recession in the U.S. economy.

The bearish trend in Bitcoin suggests further price drops, with altcoins likely to experience even greater volatility. Market instability was increased by large-scale sell-offs, stock market declines, and new investor losses.


Get more details from here. (https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/66b0727ece991734699bd7d3/)

With some already firing the warning that Bitcoin may fall below the $40K mark, there is no denying now that bloodbath has come to the industry and though this is a little surprising to me we have to understand that we are in the month of August which is not so good time for cryptocurrency to shine. The confluence of different important factors along with the perceived fear in the market drove the price of Bitcoin and even Ethereum to where they are now.

Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?






Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: hugeblack on August 05, 2024, 02:55:18 PM
This panic you are talking about is the best investment opportunity which may mean that we may not see the $50k levels again or at least in the near future. The correction has already happened and the price may improve before the end of this month or next but in the long run it is an excellent opportunity to enter into a long term investment.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Z-tight on August 05, 2024, 03:04:42 PM
Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing..
Fear? Only weak hands or people who are storing new altcoins get afraid when the price drops like this, it has now become a normal thing for people who understand BTC enough to know that this is temporary. I will rather buy more in this dip, than to be afraid and sell.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: target on August 05, 2024, 03:21:33 PM

If the chart says the price will go down to 40k, I woukd take it seriously as well to accumukate more Satoshis. It could rise rapidly the next week or the next day but because the economist are saying recession is here, the panic begins. Crazy how easy thry can spread the fear and people jist dump as well.

So the crypto market is now called Satoshi Street. Thats cool to know.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 05, 2024, 05:34:01 PM
We can look for reasons in anything, but the fact is that the price of BTC only reacted to the sinking of practically everything that is traded, whether it is gold, silver or shares. S&P500 already lost over $2 trillion after opening, and the entire crypto market is worth (that is, it was worth) just a little more than that.

In addition, it should be borne in mind that such things happen from time to time...

Quote from: https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/08/05/crypto-futures-witness-840m-in-liquidations-as-bitcoin-nosedives-ether-records-biggest-fall-since-2021/
Crypto-tracked futures saw over $1 billion million in liquidations in the past 24 hours amid a market sell-off, with ether futures recording $304 million in liquidations.
Over 200,000 traders were liquidated, with the largest single liquidation order worth $27 million on Huobi.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Crwth on August 05, 2024, 05:45:19 PM
When you look at the market, it shows a lot of red, but what I see is an opportunity to buy more if you can do so. I think it is when many people fear their positions and maybe just panic selling. In the long run, it will still recover and have a good recovery in the coming months.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: electronicash on August 05, 2024, 08:08:02 PM

they were saying the reason was that investors are selling off to pay back interest in borrowing yen since the country suddenly increased its interest rate. those borrowers now have to pay higher interest, selling assets nvidia, AMD or BTC makes sense so they can avoid huge debts.

and FED also didn't cut rates which i guess is another reason. this bloodbath affects crypto market and panic happens and everybody seems to be selling. stop the loss so selling makes sense as fear spreads.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: philipma1957 on August 06, 2024, 03:26:12 AM
Feds got what they wanted a market crash. I grabbed some. Around 0.05 btc in the 49-52 range
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 06, 2024, 05:02:48 AM
I liked this expression "Bloodbath on Satoshi Street"!!! Yes, we have seen a bloodbath in the market, so to speak, which has led to a significant drop in Bitcoin and Altcoin, some of which have reached 50%.

I hold some Altcoin and was surprised that it dropped significantly and unexpectedly, but I did not get scared and did not sell at a loss, because this is something that happens all the time in the market and those with weak hands are the ones who always lose.

As for me, I am not worried about this drop and I expect a rise soon, and I always say that buying opportunities are renewed with every drop.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 06, 2024, 03:22:59 PM
Feds got what they wanted a market crash. I grabbed some. Around 0.05 btc in the 49-52 range

They say the whole thing started in Japan when their Nikkei 225 stock index lost a whopping 4451 points, the biggest drop in history - even bigger than Black Monday 1987 when it lost just 3836 points. In addition, Japan raised interest rates to better cope with inflation, and this caused investors to no longer be able to cheaply borrow yen and sell it and invest outside of Japan.

Of course, all other markets felt this disturbance, and cryptocurrencies, as part of that market, have to pay the price. For most, such events are only a source of panic and fear, for some others nothing more than a good business opportunity.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Zed0X on August 06, 2024, 03:46:14 PM
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Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?
I think the crypto market will continue to absorb the dumps and recover. I still remember the time when the news of China ban and how the price dropped significantly but a few months later, new ATH. Now it's speculated that it's Japan, next will be another country.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: MrSpasybo on August 06, 2024, 05:50:18 PM
With some already firing the warning that Bitcoin may fall below the $40K mark, there is no denying now that bloodbath has come to the industry and though this is a little surprising to me we have to understand that we are in the month of August which is not so good time for cryptocurrency to shine. The confluence of different important factors along with the perceived fear in the market drove the price of Bitcoin and even Ethereum to where they are now.

Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?
Perhaps the crypto market is also negatively impacted by the fear of economic crisis, especially since the crypto market operates 24/7, so many tokens were sold off by investors during the two weekend days when the stock market was closed. This caused the prices of many tokens to drop sharply, even creating all-time lows.

However, the BTC price is still above $50K and is very high compared to $16K in the crypto winter. I don't think investors need to panic because we've had a very good recovery of BTC and the bullrun has been secured. This is also a good opportunity for optimistic investors to continue DCA to buy more tokens at lower prices than before.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Stompix on August 06, 2024, 06:19:21 PM
They say the whole thing started in Japan when their Nikkei 225 stock index lost a whopping 4451 points, the biggest drop in history - even bigger than Black Monday 1987 when it lost just 3836 points. In addition, Japan raised interest rates to better cope with inflation, and this caused investors to no longer be able to cheaply borrow yen and sell it and invest outside of Japan.

Japan doesn't have an inflation problem it has a deflation one, they tried for 10 years to bring inflation up to at least 2% and never managed truly to do so, their interest rates were 0 and 0.1%, the yen was sliding they simply had to do rise the rate at a time where every single major economy had them up by at least 2% compared to them.

They even said that there is no certainty they have escaped deflation or that rates will be increased, they have the opposite problems we experience.

Perhaps the crypto market is also negatively impacted by the fear of economic crisis, especially since the crypto market operates 24/7, so many tokens were sold off by investors during the two weekend days when the stock market was closed. This caused the prices of many tokens to drop sharply, even creating all-time lows.

It's not perhaps, it's a certainty.
You won't have money flowing into crypto in a recession or when people face hardships, the crypto market just like the stock market needs money, when there is no money to prop it up will be a bloodbath just like everywhere else, and nobody will give a damn about what behind the technology when that doesn't bring back $.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Z-tight on August 06, 2024, 06:32:24 PM
There is a lot going on around the world right now, in terms of inflation, deflation, socio-economic problems, etc, and surely it has to affect the price of crypto, as it has done now, before and will happen in the future.

I don't know how long crypto will be down this time around, but these issues will slow down the movement of BTC to ~ $100,000 that a lot of people are expecting, i believe that price is achievable at the peak of this cycle, but the movement will be anything but smooth.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 07, 2024, 05:14:47 PM
They say the whole thing started in Japan when their Nikkei 225 stock index lost a whopping 4451 points, the biggest drop in history - even bigger than Black Monday 1987 when it lost just 3836 points. In addition, Japan raised interest rates to better cope with inflation, and this caused investors to no longer be able to cheaply borrow yen and sell it and invest outside of Japan.

Japan doesn't have an inflation problem it has a deflation one, they tried for 10 years to bring inflation up to at least 2% and never managed truly to do so, their interest rates were 0 and 0.1%, the yen was sliding they simply had to do rise the rate at a time where every single major economy had them up by at least 2% compared to them.

They even said that there is no certainty they have escaped deflation or that rates will be increased, they have the opposite problems we experience.
~snip~


I've always wondered how a disciplined and hardworking nation could have such bad economic results, but apparently their politicians are very bad, or maybe under the influence of some external influences that govern them. Japan is said to be the first country in the world in terms of its debt, if the total debt is taken into account - and as far as I can see, they are in the infamous 6th place in terms of external debt.

In any case, it is strange what is happening there, and I am really interested in who profited the most from what happened there and spread to the whole world.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Stompix on August 07, 2024, 05:23:43 PM
I've always wondered how a disciplined and hardworking nation could have such bad economic results, but apparently their politicians are very bad, or maybe under the influence of some external influences that govern them. Japan is said to be the first country in the world in terms of its debt, if the total debt is taken into account - and as far as I can see, they are in the infamous 6th place in terms of external debt.

In any case, it is strange what is happening there, and I am really interested in who profited the most from what happened there and spread to the whole world.

Debt is not a problem as long as you can manage it, Japan has printed trillions and they haven't experience anything close to Venezuela, the debt is held by themselves, there is no pressure for it to be paid, it's perfectly serviceble at current rates. Much as Germany before Covid was issuing debt at negative rates.

As for the economy, it's complicated, explosive growth till two decades ago, slowing consumtion from those levels, aging population, spending impulses have failed, rather that just economic is also a social issue and the mentality probably plays a way bigger role than we imagine.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: NotATether on August 08, 2024, 09:22:33 AM
I remember seeing Bitcoin fall to 60K, then 55K, then to 52K... but it never did reach 50K, despite the price going down by the hundreds seemingly every hour.

I guess the "flash crash" was arrested by the market after traders ran out of bags to dump.

Now we are stable and going up, I hope nobody has placed buy orders at $40K or $50K because they are going to be liquidated soon.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 08, 2024, 04:06:00 PM
Debt is not a problem as long as you can manage it, Japan has printed trillions and they haven't experience anything close to Venezuela, the debt is held by themselves, there is no pressure for it to be paid, it's perfectly serviceble at current rates. Much as Germany before Covid was issuing debt at negative rates.

It seems so, internal debt has its advantages, but I suppose it still creates some problems in the long term. Otherwise, all the countries of the world would copy what Japan is doing (some may be partially doing it) and they would all have the majority of the debt to themselves.

As for the economy, it's complicated, explosive growth till two decades ago, slowing consumtion from those levels, aging population, spending impulses have failed, rather that just economic is also a social issue and the mentality probably plays a way bigger role than we imagine.

I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.



I remember seeing Bitcoin fall to 60K, then 55K, then to 52K... but it never did reach 50K, despite the price going down by the hundreds seemingly every hour.
~snip~


Officially, the price of BTC fell below $50k, and even some members on BTT boasted that their orders were filled below that price. Of course, it always depends on where you look at the prices, because we know from the past that the differences can be considerable in relation to a particular country and crypto exchange.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Faisal2202 on August 08, 2024, 06:04:31 PM
Can you feel the fear or do you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?
I don't feel fear at the moment because if a person is making money from other sources then they don't have to fear because if there is a dump now and you are losing money don't worry a time will come you will cover your losses and make a profit as well. The point is this is a temporary thing and in the long run we know BTC is not going anywhere even if there are recessions, or conflicts among countries and bear trend hype, etc.

These won't matter because more and more people are now trading in crypto, using their fiat and increasing the market cap of the BTC overall. These buyers are now a lot that they consume a good amount of BTC even in big sell-offs.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: robelneo on August 08, 2024, 07:02:46 PM

Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?

We old timers in the community have seen the worse blooth bath in the past, so this is not something new to old times, if you are a seasoned traders and have a strong hands this things is nothing to you and in fact will consider this as a door of opportunities.
The month of September is the month where the market will show improvement and they will carry the improvement until the end of the year, so there's really nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: electronicash on August 08, 2024, 07:59:34 PM

Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?

We old timers in the community have seen the worse blooth bath in the past, so this is not something new to old times, if you are a seasoned traders and have a strong hands this things is nothing to you and in fact will consider this as a door of opportunities.
The month of September is the month where the market will show improvement and they will carry the improvement until the end of the year, so there's really nothing to worry about.

this must be true when it comes to crypto crash especially when you have gone through bull run and then bear market and then bull market again.  you can get used to it already when you have gone trough all these anymore. you won't panic anymore when the price plunge.

but i think investors are very much confident that a bull run will happen since just few months ago was the time of halving. they know it will come and all these blood bath and market crash may just be the last few attempts of the bears.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Gposas on August 08, 2024, 10:13:20 PM
The fear is much for the rapid price drop, we see those trading on leverage are liquidated heavily, some sell at loss in order not to get liquidated completely, trading fund reducing insanely. Now these factors can lead to sell off even at loss because of panic, much fear was on traders even me...
Some say buy at the dip but the dip was getting more deep
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Z-tight on August 09, 2024, 12:27:32 AM
Some say buy at the dip but the dip was getting more deep
True, but it happens frequently that so many people are now used to it. I don't blame some people who panic when things like this happen, i don't panic much because i store mostly BTC, and i am sure it has the utility to pump again after a fall in price.

However, if i were to have so many altcoins in my portfolio, i would be worried when the market tanks, and i will sell a lot of them to reduce loss.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 09, 2024, 03:06:30 PM
~snip~
However, if i were to have so many altcoins in my portfolio, i would be worried when the market tanks, and i will sell a lot of them to reduce loss.


Most altcoins are not for long-term holding, people should know that and then at least some would avoid situations where they literally lose 50% or more of their value overnight. Of course, we are talking about unrealized loss, because theoretically the market sometimes recovers very quickly (as is the case now) and all people need to do is avoid panic and not sell at a loss.

Many see investing in cryptocurrencies as perhaps their only way to earn money, but unfortunately they often end up without everything because they are not aware of how risky the whole thing is.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Stompix on August 09, 2024, 07:22:13 PM
Seems that Bitcoin has indeed become correlated to stocks and this is just only getting stronger.
Markets bounced back, so did BTC, we recovered half of the dump, so did Nikkei 225 , it's both an advantage as optimism on the markets will bring optimism and cashflow into crypto but at the same time is going to get us exposed to their fluctuations too, becoming less of a refuge than we thought it might be.

I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.

I don't know how much we've solved of the problem without causing others, and besides, with birth levels falling everywhere we've just gained more time, once every country is under replacement levels, what next?
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: philipma1957 on August 10, 2024, 05:44:30 AM
Debt is not a problem as long as you can manage it, Japan has printed trillions and they haven't experience anything close to Venezuela, the debt is held by themselves, there is no pressure for it to be paid, it's perfectly serviceble at current rates. Much as Germany before Covid was issuing debt at negative rates.

It seems so, internal debt has its advantages, but I suppose it still creates some problems in the long term. Otherwise, all the countries of the world would copy what Japan is doing (some may be partially doing it) and they would all have the majority of the debt to themselves.

As for the economy, it's complicated, explosive growth till two decades ago, slowing consumtion from those levels, aging population, spending impulses have failed, rather that just economic is also a social issue and the mentality probably plays a way bigger role than we imagine.

I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.



I remember seeing Bitcoin fall to 60K, then 55K, then to 52K... but it never did reach 50K, despite the price going down by the hundreds seemingly every hour.
~snip~


Officially, the price of BTC fell below $50k, and even some members on BTT boasted that their orders were filled below that price. Of course, it always depends on where you look at the prices, because we know from the past that the differences can be considerable in relation to a particular country and crypto exchange.

damn right I got some on coinbase for under 50k.

49,798 to be exact

to be fair most of my buys were 50,000 to 52,500
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 10, 2024, 04:40:58 PM
I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.

I don't know how much we've solved of the problem without causing others, and besides, with birth levels falling everywhere we've just gained more time, once every country is under replacement levels, what next?

Far from having solved the problem, as you say, we only temporarily slowed down some things at who knows what price, but in the long term we will pay dearly for it. I personally have nothing against people of a different skin color or religion, but I have against those who do not respect people and the society they have moved to.

European demographic policy has completely failed (with some exceptions of nation states), and it is incredible that instead of encouraging families to have more children and protect the family, they advocate gender ideologies and the importation of millions of workers from countries that have no social, religious or ideological similarities with Europeans.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: philipma1957 on August 11, 2024, 01:44:10 AM
I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.

I don't know how much we've solved of the problem without causing others, and besides, with birth levels falling everywhere we've just gained more time, once every country is under replacement levels, what next?

Far from having solved the problem, as you say, we only temporarily slowed down some things at who knows what price, but in the long term we will pay dearly for it. I personally have nothing against people of a different skin color or religion, but I have against those who do not respect people and the society they have moved to.

European demographic policy has completely failed (with some exceptions of nation states), and it is incredible that instead of encouraging families to have more children and protect the family, they advocate gender ideologies and the importation of millions of workers from countries that have no social, religious or ideological similarities with Europeans.

Well I agree with part of what you said. I bolded it.

 But I would prefer to see world wide depopulation via oral sex only. Zero birth rate for 3 years would be a good start
 I know it  (will never happen). So I kind of feel the only hope of earth is this movie :

"The day the earth stood still"

1951 version

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Baofeng on August 11, 2024, 08:06:02 AM

Can you feel the fear or you think this is just a very temporary thing...and days from now we will already be smiling all the way to the bank, so to speak?

We old timers in the community have seen the worse blooth bath in the past, so this is not something new to old times, if you are a seasoned traders and have a strong hands this things is nothing to you and in fact will consider this as a door of opportunities.
The month of September is the month where the market will show improvement and they will carry the improvement until the end of the year, so there's really nothing to worry about.

Exactly, for sure the pandemic and the lock down is still fresh in our mind as we have seen one of the worst crash in Bitcoin and crypto in general. But we where able to recover from it and even had a new all time high back then.

So not sure why the current bloodbath or if we can call it that way will concern us as we have seen worst and we were able to get back up and then shows how resilient our market it. I do agree that maybe in the last quarter, we might see a big improvement in the price and go on track to reach 6 digits in this bull run cycle.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on August 12, 2024, 02:51:17 PM
Fear? Only weak hands or people who are storing new altcoins get afraid when the price drops like this, it has now become a normal thing for people who understand BTC enough to know that this is temporary. I would rather buy more in this dip than to be afraid and sell.
Besides understanding the observer must buy the BTC too because only observing the price and saying that those who understand the BTC won't fear in dump. I am not saying this to you but some people have not bought BTC even and are into ALTs and after seeing the situation they are praising BTC.

I agree with all of your statements that those who have no control over their emotions when they see their portfolio going down panic sell in the loss.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Lucius on August 12, 2024, 03:18:48 PM
I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.

I don't know how much we've solved of the problem without causing others, and besides, with birth levels falling everywhere we've just gained more time, once every country is under replacement levels, what next?

Far from having solved the problem, as you say, we only temporarily slowed down some things at who knows what price, but in the long term we will pay dearly for it. I personally have nothing against people of a different skin color or religion, but I have against those who do not respect people and the society they have moved to.

European demographic policy has completely failed (with some exceptions of nation states), and it is incredible that instead of encouraging families to have more children and protect the family, they advocate gender ideologies and the importation of millions of workers from countries that have no social, religious or ideological similarities with Europeans.

Well I agree with part of what you said. I bolded it.

 But I would prefer to see world wide depopulation via oral sex only. Zero birth rate for 3 years would be a good start
 I know it  (will never happen). So I kind of feel the only hope of earth is this movie :

"The day the earth stood still"

1951 version

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/


Europe does not need depopulation, quite the opposite - but I definitely agree that people in some parts of the world should be literally forced to use contraception in order to reduce the population. It is difficult to explain how a man who cannot feed a single child has 7 or 8 children who do not have any conditions for life, are not able to get an education and find a job, and their only goal is to go to the west after they become of age.

Not so long ago, Dubravka Suica, Vice-President of the European Commission for Democracy and Demography, stated that Africa is the solution to the problems of demography in the EU. In other words, it is in someone's interest to change the demographic picture of Europe, but there are more and more people who consciously oppose it and support policies that want to prevent it.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: philipma1957 on August 13, 2024, 04:17:41 PM
Seems that Bitcoin has indeed become correlated to stocks and this is just only getting stronger.
Markets bounced back, so did BTC, we recovered half of the dump, so did Nikkei 225 , it's both an advantage as optimism on the markets will bring optimism and cashflow into crypto but at the same time is going to get us exposed to their fluctuations too, becoming less of a refuge than we thought it might be.

I read that it is almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan, even if you are the child of parents who were born in Japan - and while we in the West solve this with mass migrations, they still persist in a very closed society. I think that all the changes that are happening globally in the world have also affected them, but they have not yet found a way to adapt to them.

I don't know how much we've solved of the problem without causing others, and besides, with birth levels falling everywhere we've just gained more time, once every country is under replacement levels, what next?

If the world’s population shrinks back to 7 billion so what

we were sending people to the moon in 1969 and our world’s population was just under 3 billions.

seems to me the shrinkage would be less stressful then you may think.

Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Gposas on August 22, 2024, 02:42:08 PM
This blood bath caused a great fear index in the crypto world, displaying more red candles and dropping the price of altcoins. This blood bath is likely to take long time before recovery and it affected most traders, liquidating some and forcing some to sell at loss, it also affected me, cause I bought at the high trend before the market became bearish and till now, I haven't realized from my losses.
Notwithstanding, I still make the move of buying the dip and I have accumulated more waiting for the bull run and I hope it comes soon.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: NotATether on August 22, 2024, 02:49:32 PM
I did not even know that "Satoshi Street" was even a term that people used but OK, I like it, it's pretty good to refer to it as that.

I wouldn't say there is a bloodbath in any sense of the word happening here, because as you know, prices have just recovered and we don't look to be going back down any time soon.
Title: Re: Key Reasons Behind the Bloodbath on Satoshi Street
Post by: Stompix on August 22, 2024, 10:26:11 PM
I did not even know that "Satoshi Street" was even a term that people used but OK, I like it, it's pretty good to refer to it as that.

If you didn't know that then prepare for another surprise, there is a Satoshistreet bets sub on reddit , mimicking Wallstreetbets with nearly a million subscribers  ;D

I wouldn't say there is a bloodbath in any sense of the word happening here, because as you know, prices have just recovered and we don't look to be going back down any time soon.


Probably the bloodbath was more about the amount lost in trades, if we focus on trading those that got liquidated will never get back their money even if the price doubles, of course, they could now try the opposite and go long but then there is the risk of losing again whatever you have left.