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Title: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: TomPluz on August 28, 2024, 08:46:02 AM
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On August 20, a cryptocurrency wallet user signed an unverified transaction, resulting in the loss of 55.47 million Dai (DAI) due to a phishing attack. After realizing the mistake, the user attempted to withdraw the funds to a new address. However, the transaction failed because the wallet’s ownership had already been changed.

The attacker withdrew $55 million from the victim’s wallet. Blockchain analytics firm Lookonchain warned that the attacker had transferred ownership to a newly created address and withdrawn all the digital assets from the platform. Notably, the attacker exchanged 27.5 million DAI for 10,625 Ether (ETH).

Phishing is a form of fraud in which attackers deceive victims into installing fake software or signing malicious transactions to steal digital assets. They attempt to trick victims into revealing their private keys, personal information, or granting access to their wallets. In the first half of 2024, phishing attacks caused nearly half a billion dollars in losses.


Get more details on this link. (https://azc.news/a-whale-loses-55-million-dai-in-a-phishing-scam-id27590/)


One thing for sure, even whales can be victims of evil people just lurking around and looking for some good opportunity to make their punch and victimize others...to the tune of 55 million dollar worth of a stablecoin. Well, if you are one of the whales or at least hodling some sizeable amount of crypto in your wallet, you must be careful and think thrice before you do anything in your wallet. Such can be the big danger if you are just a prawn in the pond...you can be targeted with people whose only job - and this has become a very lucrative job - is to get you under their radar and control your digital assets away. If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?

Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: _act_ on August 28, 2024, 10:54:24 AM
If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?
His wallet was hacked as a result of phishing attack which is not a new means hackers are using to attack someone's wallet. If you want to avoid the attack, avoid phishing attack. The attack can start from the link the attacker send to you. Avoid and not click on any link sent.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: hugeblack on August 28, 2024, 11:06:40 AM
There are still 22 million DAI that have not been withdrawn and since DAI is decentralized it is difficult to freeze it so I wonder how a whale would have the technical knowledge to buy DAI and not learn the basics of avoiding phishing links. Generally it would be difficult for a new hacker to launder 10,625 Ether (ETH) without being noticed.


Or in other words, there may be an entity or organization behind such hacking.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Jating on August 28, 2024, 11:19:50 AM
There are still 22 million DAI that have not been withdrawn and since DAI is decentralized it is difficult to freeze it so I wonder how a whale would have the technical knowledge to buy DAI and not learn the basics of avoiding phishing links. Generally it would be difficult for a new hacker to launder 10,625 Ether (ETH) without being noticed.


Or in other words, there may be an entity or organization behind such hacking.

Perhaps the entities is technically inclined because he wouldn't trust to put this big money. However, as what we have said, hackers are very intelligent and probably targeted this whales for a long time and just finally had the chance as the whales could have slipped out and so he is trapped. And the thing with DAI is that it can''t be blocked. Perhaps he can hire some blockchain analyst company to try to follow and where the money went to even identify the hackers itself. It's a long shot, but maybe this is only his chance to recover some.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: ABCbits on August 28, 2024, 01:36:39 PM
If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?

As stated on the news, double-check all details on the unsigned transaction. In addition, there are several wallet software which can preview or simulate what would happen if you sign or approve such action. Even web wallet such as Rabby have this feature these days.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Baofeng on August 28, 2024, 01:38:25 PM
That is a lot of money to begin with, and we all know that no one is safe here and so I can't understand why this whale has put it in just one basket.

But I read that it was not a hacked, but he supposedly transferred it to a malicious wallet.

However, it's hard to get that money back if the criminals have the knowledge to move it and be untraceable.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Rubel007 on August 28, 2024, 03:02:58 PM
It's natural that scammers will target such accounts like $55 million, but it's the holder's responsibility to be careful. He must have entered through a link either consciously or unconsciously. I would expect that holders of such assets should take their utmost security but since his money was hacked through a phishing attack I can say for sure that he was not careful. He wasn't too serious or his security issues were flawed. There is no way to protect oneself from scammers or hackers without taking precautions.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: target on August 28, 2024, 03:37:38 PM

Having 55M in your wallet I'm sure that hacker k ows how to target someone who is that rich.

Someone else out there must have posted it on forums how they are hacked after installing an app even if its just 10Eth in their wallet. That whale would have had the idea not to install or use that wallet online.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 28, 2024, 09:26:26 PM
Phishing (fishing) for a whale has a sound to it to be fair. But to be fair I do feel sorry for the guy, it feels like we are not going to end up with any end to this neither, its something that has been around for a while and I fear that it will be around for a while longer as well. The best case scenario would be the fact that we are going to end up with a terrible result that will not be easy to handle, and because of that we end up with hackers and scammers and all these people still trying because they know that eventually they will get someone, even if it takes a long time, they find new whales to hunt.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Zed0X on August 28, 2024, 10:44:23 PM
All the victim could do now (after requesting assistance) is to wait for the hacker to commit a mistake. We've seen how some of the amount were traced and recovered because they ended up using centralized exchanges.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: SamReomo on August 28, 2024, 11:12:40 PM
I feel bad for that whale but in crypto trusting phishing sites or applications often lead to loss of money. That's why I believe the crypto whales or huge investors should try to be more alert and use best security measures to be protected from the hackers.

Most of those hackers are quite greedy and they sometimes make mistakes and due to their mistakes they give cue to chain analysis companies who can use those cues to find details of those hackers. I hope in case of this whale the hacker may leave a strong cue so the whale's funds can be recovered and the hacker may get behind the bars.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 29, 2024, 06:26:05 AM
In fact, I do not dare to think about putting a huge amount like this 55 million in one wallet, even if it is a hard wallet. It is better to divide the amount into parts and put it in several hard wallets, preferably cold wallets that are not connected to the Internet, to avoid such mistakes.

The second mistake is rushing to sign an undocumented transaction. A person who has such an amount must make sure ten times before signing any transaction. No one is far from danger, even whales.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: ABCbits on August 29, 2024, 12:21:00 PM
All the victim could do now (after requesting assistance) is to wait for the hacker to commit a mistake. We've seen how some of the amount were traced and recovered because they ended up using centralized exchanges.

The possibility is rather small though, when the news already state the hacker already convert hacked DAI to ETH.

In fact, I do not dare to think about putting a huge amount like this 55 million in one wallet, even if it is a hard wallet. It is better to divide the amount into parts and put it in several hard wallets, preferably cold wallets that are not connected to the Internet, to avoid such mistakes.

It's interesting idea, but there's trade-off where you need to backup multiple wallet and remember PIN/password for those wallets. Now i wonder how other whale secure their coin.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: NotATether on August 29, 2024, 01:20:18 PM
How is that breaking news? (except the whale of course, so in his case, my condolences).

RULE NUMBER 1: If you are lucky enough to be holding  millions of dollars, you do not even think about putting it in an internet-connected wallet.

Also, and this is something  I've noticed recently, is that some programs ostensibly need your private keys to make a "proof" on your computers and let you claim your tokens reward - don't run those. They are just stealers.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on August 29, 2024, 01:37:59 PM
If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?
His wallet was hacked as a result of phishing attack which is not a new means hackers are using to attack someone's wallet. If you want to avoid the attack, avoid phishing attack. The attack can start from the link the attacker send to you. Avoid and not click on any link sent.
He didn't just click on any link; he also signed an unverified transaction. How idiotic or ignorant could he be? We shouldn't even open our wallets for small tasks but only when we need to sell or swap. Never keep all your funds in a wallet that you use for day-to-day transactions.

Keep your funds in a cold wallet and use them sparingly. Tracking the scammer would be easier with such an amount if the victim hires a professional. Hackers are constantly working and spreading links to leaked emails, which they obtain in abundance from illegal sites. They then use automated tools to send emails to everyone.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Lucius on August 29, 2024, 04:14:57 PM
Once again it is shown that people who are rich are not necessarily intelligent (there are exceptions, of course), but this is neither the first nor the last example that something like this has happened. I check each of my outgoing transactions several times before I send them, and I am especially careful about any larger amount, which I consider $1000 or more.

If by any chance I had $55 million in crypto, they would be protected in such a way that it would be difficult for me personally to get to them, let alone for a hacker to do it. Some people obviously just need to be asked nicely - "Hey, will you send me $55 million, you just need to sign this transaction?" and boom, you have a fortune on your account ;D
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: robelneo on August 29, 2024, 04:24:47 PM
Whales should have a very high standard of security, because millions of dollars are at stake, they should be updated on all type and kinds of hacking and scamming, and they should employ all the security tools to make their machine as safe as possible.

Hackers keeps updating and keep employing new scheme to scam investors, especially whales, so its ipoprtant to be one step ahead when it comes to security.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on August 29, 2024, 10:39:21 PM
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On August 20, a cryptocurrency wallet user signed an unverified transaction, resulting in the loss of 55.47 million Dai (DAI) due to a phishing attack. After realizing the mistake, the user attempted to withdraw the funds to a new address. However, the transaction failed because the wallet’s ownership had already been changed.

The attacker withdrew $55 million from the victim’s wallet. Blockchain analytics firm Lookonchain warned that the attacker had transferred ownership to a newly created address and withdrawn all the digital assets from the platform. Notably, the attacker exchanged 27.5 million DAI for 10,625 Ether (ETH).

Phishing is a form of fraud in which attackers deceive victims into installing fake software or signing malicious transactions to steal digital assets. They attempt to trick victims into revealing their private keys, personal information, or granting access to their wallets. In the first half of 2024, phishing attacks caused nearly half a billion dollars in losses.


Get more details on this link. (https://azc.news/a-whale-loses-55-million-dai-in-a-phishing-scam-id27590/)


One thing for sure, even whales can be victims of evil people just lurking around and looking for some good opportunity to make their punch and victimize others...to the tune of 55 million dollar worth of a stablecoin. Well, if you are one of the whales or at least hodling some sizeable amount of crypto in your wallet, you must be careful and think thrice before you do anything in your wallet. Such can be the big danger if you are just a prawn in the pond...you can be targeted with people whose only job - and this has become a very lucrative job - is to get you under their radar and control your digital assets away. If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?

If the crayfish investors are loosing and cant help the prevention of losses through attempts like that of the phishing scam and threats, then the whales are not left out in this scenario because those that do scam others are the ones who will be always looking out for updates around in other for them to use as weapons against the safety of other users, but when we are informed about how they operate, we may have a reduced chance of being their victim in scam, anyone can lose and fall their trap including whales, except extra care and measures are effectively put into consideration.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: KingsDen on August 29, 2024, 10:57:46 PM
Once again it is shown that people who are rich are not necessarily intelligent (there are exceptions, of course), but this is neither the first nor the last example that something like this has happened. I check each of my outgoing transactions several times before I send them, and I am especially careful about any larger amount, which I consider $1000 or more.
This is not about being intelligent. Anyone can be a victim. We are all vulnerable in this industry and no matter how careful we are, there must be victims. We could only be more careful to avoid being victims. In the other forum, theymos mistakenly sent $1k to a private newbie who refunded the BTC. I didn't imagine that theymos will make such a mistake. So, anyone no matter how intelligent can be a victim.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 30, 2024, 05:06:02 AM
In fact, I do not dare to think about putting a huge amount like this 55 million in one wallet, even if it is a hard wallet. It is better to divide the amount into parts and put it in several hard wallets, preferably cold wallets that are not connected to the Internet, to avoid such mistakes.

It's interesting idea, but there's trade-off where you need to backup multiple wallet and remember PIN/password for those wallets. Now i wonder how other whale secure their coin.
Yes indeed it is a rather interesting question how do whales secure their coins?

This question intrigued me and I found some answers you can check some of them in this link on reddit it might be helpful
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/wdphdb/how_do_whales_keep_their_massive_amounts_of/

This question seems to intrigue everyone.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: hugeblack on August 30, 2024, 09:09:26 AM

This question intrigued me and I found some answers you can check some of them in this link on reddit it might be helpful
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/wdphdb/how_do_whales_keep_their_massive_amounts_of/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/wdphdb/how_do_whales_keep_their_massive_amounts_of/)

This question seems to intrigue everyone.

I don't know if this quote is true or not but if this is how whales think about how to secure their money then it is no wonder it is so easy to hack.


Splitting the private key produces lower entropy and even using SSS gives much less security than using a multi-signature wallet.


In general, the hack could be intended for tax evasion, if I report my money stolen and send it to a friend then he can use it to buy a property in another country without paying taxes.


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Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: ABCbits on August 30, 2024, 12:02:45 PM
In fact, I do not dare to think about putting a huge amount like this 55 million in one wallet, even if it is a hard wallet. It is better to divide the amount into parts and put it in several hard wallets, preferably cold wallets that are not connected to the Internet, to avoid such mistakes.

It's interesting idea, but there's trade-off where you need to backup multiple wallet and remember PIN/password for those wallets. Now i wonder how other whale secure their coin.
Yes indeed it is a rather interesting question how do whales secure their coins?

This question intrigued me and I found some answers you can check some of them in this link on reddit it might be helpful
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/wdphdb/how_do_whales_keep_their_massive_amounts_of/

This question seems to intrigue everyone.

Most of the responses are common approach (multisig, cold wallet, etc.). But it has 2 interesting comment which leads to these links,
https://www.amazon.com/Cryptoasset-Inheritance-Planning-Simple-Owners-ebook/dp/B07BRQ864J/ (https://www.amazon.com/Cryptoasset-Inheritance-Planning-Simple-Owners-ebook/dp/B07BRQ864J/)
https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-winklevoss-twins-store-their-crypto-fortune/ (https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-winklevoss-twins-store-their-crypto-fortune/)

I'm not aware author of that book, where i don't plan to read 146 pages to satisfy my curiosity. Although Winklevoss Twins approach is rather unique since they use deposit safe where they need to trust the owner.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Lucius on August 30, 2024, 12:31:19 PM
Once again it is shown that people who are rich are not necessarily intelligent (there are exceptions, of course), but this is neither the first nor the last example that something like this has happened. I check each of my outgoing transactions several times before I send them, and I am especially careful about any larger amount, which I consider $1000 or more.
This is not about being intelligent. Anyone can be a victim. We are all vulnerable in this industry and no matter how careful we are, there must be victims. We could only be more careful to avoid being victims. In the other forum, theymos mistakenly sent $1k to a private newbie who refunded the BTC. I didn't imagine that theymos will make such a mistake. So, anyone no matter how intelligent can be a victim.

You can't compare $1000 and $55 million - so who in their right mind keeps that much value in a hot wallet? It can't happen to everyone to be a victim, it's just a phrase you can repeat, but it's simply not true.

We are all vulnerable and there is no doubt about that, but if you understand the risks, then you will always be on your guard and do everything to prevent something like this from happening to you. Something like that has never happened to me, and with a healthy conscience and mind, I'm sure it will never happen.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Kemarit on August 30, 2024, 02:12:34 PM
Once again it is shown that people who are rich are not necessarily intelligent (there are exceptions, of course), but this is neither the first nor the last example that something like this has happened. I check each of my outgoing transactions several times before I send them, and I am especially careful about any larger amount, which I consider $1000 or more.
This is not about being intelligent. Anyone can be a victim. We are all vulnerable in this industry and no matter how careful we are, there must be victims. We could only be more careful to avoid being victims. In the other forum, theymos mistakenly sent $1k to a private newbie who refunded the BTC. I didn't imagine that theymos will make such a mistake. So, anyone no matter how intelligent can be a victim.

But this is huge amount of money that we are talking here, so you really need to be very very careful on how he should handled those millions. To be honest, if I'm going to transfer more than $1000, I will be very nervous and will check everything and I should be in the right frame of mind and not be distracted by my environment because one mistakes and it's over. So just like the whale here, he should have known better not to use or store his millions in a machine that is always connected to the internet.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: KingsDen on August 30, 2024, 02:16:22 PM
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You can't compare $1000 and $55 million - so who in their right mind keeps that much value in a hot wallet?
Well, I also understand your view and it is true. Being that we need to be more careful, especially when a huge amount is involved. As you also rightly captured above, $55M might not be that much to them lol.
However, we shouldn't blame them for keeping such amount in hot wallet because we know the nature of their business. They need that large amount to manipulate the market at any time, so keeping such in a cold wallet might make them miss the manipulation opportunities. Trust you understand what I meant.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Lucius on August 30, 2024, 03:40:52 PM
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You can't compare $1000 and $55 million - so who in their right mind keeps that much value in a hot wallet?
Well, I also understand your view and it is true. Being that we need to be more careful, especially when a huge amount is involved. As you also rightly captured above, $55M might not be that much to them lol.
However, we shouldn't blame them for keeping such amount in hot wallet because we know the nature of their business. They need that large amount to manipulate the market at any time, so keeping such in a cold wallet might make them miss the manipulation opportunities. Trust you understand what I meant.


They say that bad things happen to bad people, and if someone manipulates the market and causes financial losses to others, then there is some justice in the well-deserved punishment. Although it does not seem to me that this is the case in this specific case, who knows, maybe that person has x10 more and can afford this kind of carelessness.

Be that as it may, this is a warning to everyone else, always be alert and check everything several times because every mistake can cost you dearly.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: kulkhan on August 30, 2024, 09:13:54 PM
Oh very sad news. But it also true that most of the people are fetching thats kinds of phishing attack. Scammers are now very uptodate and talented. They are creating new new scamming way regularly. Who will do mistakes he will fall in risk and he will loss his valuable fund.

Now a days we saw phishing link coming in our device even in our email. Who will open it he will be Caught. He will loss his all fund. So we have to more Secure about phishing attack.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 30, 2024, 10:09:21 PM
In general, the hack could be intended for tax evasion, if I report my money stolen and send it to a friend then he can use it to buy a property in another country without paying taxes.
Yes, this is a very good way to evade taxes, but it is not completely safe.

What if this whale's friend took these assets for himself and bought a luxury house for himself instead of the real owner of the money? Then he will not be able to file a complaint because he has already announced that his money was stolen. :)
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Bobcrypto on August 31, 2024, 08:58:37 AM
Oh very sad news. But it also true that most of the people are fetching thats kinds of phishing attack. Scammers are now very uptodate and talented. They are creating new new scamming way regularly. Who will do mistakes he will fall in risk and he will loss his valuable fund.

Now a days we saw phishing link coming in our device even in our email. Who will open it he will be Caught. He will loss his all fund. So we have to more Secure about phishing attack.

Everyday scammers are upgrading their method of dealing with people, but unfortunately, most crypto users are carried away by the mindset of markings profits and ignoring some sensitive areas of online transactions like Security and safety of the unknown. To me, it is not a pleasant news at all because anybody could be a victim of phishing attacks mistakingly probably in an attempt to make quick money.
I am always very safety conscious about phishing link that comes my way, and it's advisable for everyone to be mindful in clicking unnecessary links.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: MUGNIA on August 31, 2024, 05:21:20 PM
What is certain is that I will not use my main wallet as a wallet that randomly links phishing links given by people, because by storing assets in the main wallet, there is little chance that the wallet will be hacked by irresponsible people.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Vision pro on August 31, 2024, 05:34:05 PM
There are still 22 million DAI that have not been withdrawn and since DAI is decentralized it is difficult to freeze it so I wonder how a whale would have the technical knowledge to buy DAI and not learn the basics of avoiding phishing links. Generally it would be difficult for a new hacker to launder 10,625 Ether (ETH) without being noticed.


Or in other words, there may be an entity or organization behind such hacking.
It's indeed surprising that someone with the technical knowledge to accumulate such a large amount of DAI or ETH might still fall victim to phishing attacks. However, the nature of phishing exploits relies heavily on social engineering, which can deceive even experienced users if executed well. The attacker might have created a very convincing phishing scenario that bypassed the user's defenses.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 31, 2024, 07:38:53 PM
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In the first half of 2024, phishing attacks caused nearly half a billion dollars in losses.
This is the one that got me. Just imagine how much these scammers are getting to these innocent asset holders. If the same happens for the 2nd half the year, they will be getting more or less a billion dollars for just one year. This is the reason why I always say that the scammers are becoming more and more knowledgeable with how they scam other investors. On the other hand, investors are becoming dumber and dumber especially on how they secure their assets.

One thing for sure, even whales can be victims of evil people just lurking around and looking for some good opportunity to make their punch and victimize others...to the tune of 55 million dollar worth of a stablecoin. Well, if you are one of the whales or at least hodling some sizeable amount of crypto in your wallet, you must be careful and think thrice before you do anything in your wallet. Such can be the big danger if you are just a prawn in the pond...you can be targeted with people whose only job - and this has become a very lucrative job - is to get you under their radar and control your digital assets away. If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?
Having a lot of money doesn't mean that you have a lot of knowledge and we saw it here on this recent phishing attack.

It's quite unfortunate, but that's just how it is. In a world where we are the one responsible with our assets, things like these are becoming a norm already and there's no other way for us to stop them aside from the fact that we need to continue to educate these investors especially those newbies on how they need to secure their assets because like you said, scammers are just lurking everywhere, waiting for the perfect opportunity to scam newbie investors.

This attack is  for sure unfortunate, but I've seen many already and it already came to a point where I will just say "It is what it is." and the scammers will just say "Thank you. Next."
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Hamza2424 on August 31, 2024, 11:45:48 PM
One thing for sure, even whales can be victims of evil people just lurking around and looking for some good opportunity to make their punch and victimize others...to the tune of 55 million dollar worth of a stablecoin. Well, if you are one of the whales or at least hodling some sizeable amount of crypto in your wallet, you must be careful and think thrice before you do anything in your wallet. Such can be the big danger if you are just a prawn in the pond...you can be targeted with people whose only job - and this has become a very lucrative job - is to get you under their radar and control your digital assets away. If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?
It happens sometimes whales also become the prey but this time it was a big one and I am pretty sure the hunter would be very happy if he did not get caught I am sorry for the prey lost but why did he sign a transaction without knowing the source. This is so dumb and looks like he does not even deserve to have this much money but the nature of the world is always unpredictable because smart ones have no money while the dumb ones are making a lot haha.

Anyway I hope his funds will be tracked by the professionals and he could get them back because losing that much money to a scammer is the biggest mistake that no one want to do even by mistake haha.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: B.Trader on September 01, 2024, 03:49:23 AM
This incident highlights the growing threat of phishing attacks in the cryptocurrency space, where attackers use deception to gain control of users' digital assets. The loss of 55.47 million Dai DAI underscores the importance of vigilance when interacting with blockchain networks.In this case, the attacker exploited the victim's mistake of signing an unverified transaction, allowing them to change the wallet’s ownership and drain the funds. Despite the user's attempt to recover the assets, the transaction failed as the ownership had already been transferred to the attacker's address.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: TryNinja on September 01, 2024, 03:52:43 AM
This is the one that got me. Just imagine how much these scammers are getting to these innocent asset holders. If the same happens for the 2nd half the year, they will be getting more or less a billion dollars for just one year. This is the reason why I always say that the scammers are becoming more and more knowledgeable with how they scam other investors. On the other hand, investors are becoming dumber and dumber especially on how they secure their assets.
To be fair, when people lose all they have they tend to just leave the ecossystem. I feel like most people who are easily scammable have already lost what they have and now it's getting harder to get new victims as it was in the beginning. Not saying scammers will be gone, since it's still very profitable to scam people (sadly), but a few extra billions I'm not sure.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Lucius on September 03, 2024, 02:44:27 PM
To be fair, when people lose all they have they tend to just leave the ecossystem. I feel like most people who are easily scammable have already lost what they have and now it's getting harder to get new victims as it was in the beginning. Not saying scammers will be gone, since it's still very profitable to scam people (sadly), but a few extra billions I'm not sure.

I think that the "glitter" of the altcoins market attracts millions of new people all over the world who dream of overnight success, and there is certainly much more than just millions of dollars hidden there. These are people (not all, but most) who are very inexperienced and susceptible to deception, and as such they are ideal targets for scams.

When we say "scam", we should not only mean a classic scam in which someone steals something from someone, but that a lot of people will lose their money just because they will invest it in something that seems like a legitimate project, but in fact it is not.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 16, 2024, 10:24:21 PM

One thing for sure, even whales can be victims of evil people just lurking around and looking for some good opportunity to make their punch and victimize others...

I agree with you mate, one thing for sure is that no investor in the crypto space is above scammers attack. Whales are even the top priority of scammers because they would be so happy if they hijack a big bag of any whale that fall victim to them just like the case you talked about now.

Every crypto investor or Bitcoin holder have to be extremely careful and handle the security of their asset with top priority to avoid being victim to scammers.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: bhadz on September 16, 2024, 10:59:16 PM
That's pain in the ass, losing that amount and it could be the victim's life savings in crypto. Phishing is still common and hackers doesn't really need to reinvent their techniques. Those that have a lot of holdings need to be aware of any attack can happen whether it's phishing or not. Protect your assets and be careful to the transactions that you sign with these smart contracts or any website that you visit, always verify things for your own sake.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Rubel007 on September 17, 2024, 04:49:19 AM
That's pain in the ass, losing that amount and it could be the victim's life savings in crypto. Phishing is still common and hackers doesn't really need to reinvent their techniques. Those that have a lot of holdings need to be aware of any attack can happen whether it's phishing or not. Protect your assets and be careful to the transactions that you sign with these smart contracts or any website that you visit, always verify things for your own sake.
Phishing attacks are nothing new to a hacker, but as a victim I find them suicidal. To escape from this situation, the holder has no choice but to take precautions. It is important to be careful in every case, especially those with high assets. Necessary measures must be taken to ensure the security of the device on which the held assets reside. I wouldn't use that device for anything else except transection. I will try to use separate devices for personal work in order to maintain maximum security in protecting my assets.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: MrSpasybo on September 18, 2024, 05:08:12 PM
Phishing attacks are nothing new to a hacker, but as a victim I find them suicidal. To escape from this situation, the holder has no choice but to take precautions. It is important to be careful in every case, especially those with high assets. Necessary measures must be taken to ensure the security of the device on which the held assets reside. I wouldn't use that device for anything else except transection. I will try to use separate devices for personal work in order to maintain maximum security in protecting my assets.
Yeah, I also don't understand why a whale with over $50M in assets could be so careless. If I had that much crypto, I'd store it in multiple cold wallets and only use a few hot wallets when interacting with DeFi, while carefully verifying the protocols before signing any proposals.

Many investors have faced similar risks when participating in new projects and granting permission to fraudulent protocols, resulting in their account assets being stolen in just a few seconds. I hope this event will serve as a warning to all of us before the bullrun. At the same time, this could also be the reason why many investors prefer to use CEXs instead of self-custodying their crypto assets.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Gurujebs on September 18, 2024, 05:13:27 PM
That's pain in the ass, losing that amount and it could be the victim's life savings in crypto. Phishing is still common and hackers doesn't really need to reinvent their techniques. Those that have a lot of holdings need to be aware of any attack can happen whether it's phishing or not. Protect your assets and be careful to the transactions that you sign with these smart contracts or any website that you visit, always verify things for your own sake.

A whale can be any person and not everyone is very good in security maximalism and it's something anyone should invest in because if you can splash millions of dollars into an investment, then it's shouldn't be a hard work to pay to learn about tight security. Things like wallet and some of the things can make you lose everything should be studied.

I think this shouldn't be a problem in the first place if Dai community can help. If indeed he can signed a message and prove ownership of the address and provide prove of buying wallet, then a vote can be pass to render that useless but it's only possible if the community vote in favour of that and that undermine the decentralization of Dai foundation.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: _act_ on September 19, 2024, 09:38:06 PM
This keep me wondering how this kind of mistake could have happened to a whale, the amount in consideration here is much and as we already know that crypto transactions are irreversible, ones sent and confirmed, that settles it all, i rarely see that a whale will fall into the hands of scammers when he knows what took him to be where he was, there is no need of relenting efforts in what we do.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 20, 2024, 05:14:55 AM
This keep me wondering how this kind of mistake could have happened to a whale, the amount in consideration here is much and as we already know that crypto transactions are irreversible, ones sent and confirmed, that settles it all, i rarely see that a whale will fall into the hands of scammers when he knows what took him to be where he was, there is no need of relenting efforts in what we do.
the only reason i can think of is that this whale was just influenced and not really an expert when it comes to these things it is not uncommon for the rich to have financial advisors which basically just tell them what to do not all rich are very careful and smart it is unfortunate for him but i hope that teaches him a lesson
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Faisal2202 on October 03, 2024, 09:39:24 PM
It happens sometimes whales also become the prey but this time it was a big one and I am pretty sure the hunter would be very happy if he did not get caught I am sorry for the prey lost but why did he sign a transaction without knowing the source. This is so dumb and looks like he does not even deserve to have this much money but the nature of the world is always unpredictable because smart ones have no money while the dumb ones are making a lot haha.

Anyway I hope his funds will be tracked by the professionals and he could get them back because losing that much money to a scammer is the biggest mistake that no one want to do even by mistake haha.
Well this dumb one did not make money but lost a big amount. You are right, 55 million DAI is not a small amount, it's so big, and the mistake was so childish too, like newbies make such mistakes and they don't lose in millions because newbies also don't take risks with millions of dollars and attach their wallets to any site they found.

I also wish the funds would be tracked back and but I did not find any updates on this event. I hope no one else will lose this much money. I have read this thread a lot of times but never get the time to share my opinions. But your point is right it really was a dumb move.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: _act_ on October 04, 2024, 08:16:05 PM
This keep me wondering how this kind of mistake could have happened to a whale, the amount in consideration here is much and as we already know that crypto transactions are irreversible, ones sent and confirmed, that settles it all, i rarely see that a whale will fall into the hands of scammers when he knows what took him to be where he was, there is no need of relenting efforts in what we do.
the only reason i can think of is that this whale was just influenced and not really an expert when it comes to these things it is not uncommon for the rich to have financial advisors which basically just tell them what to do not all rich are very careful and smart it is unfortunate for him but i hope that teaches him a lesson

You could be right and this may be the exact situation of this case, because if not for a newbie who amassed wealth for the first time in cryptocurrency, no one could have afford making a silly mistake, but i don't know the way other people reason and think for them to have dabble into what they are new to, invest and still make it in a large amount, am sure this same person would have been somewhere by now been depressed of the incident for loosing his asset.
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: Rami on October 05, 2024, 06:42:37 PM
It's a tough lesson for even the biggest whales! It just goes to show that in the crypto ocean, even the largest fish can get caught in a net. If I were a whale, I’d probably invest in a good security team and maybe even a digital bodyguard! After all, it’s better to be safe than sorry when you’re swimming with the sharks! 🦈💰
Title: Re: A Whale Loses 55 Million DAI in a Phishing Scam
Post by: libert19 on October 10, 2024, 08:13:52 AM
If you were this whale, what are the things that you could have done to avoid losing this huge amount?

I would not sign a message with wallet holding such significant amounts. You often don't know what you are signing, yes webpage may say whatever; example being to confirm ownership of wallet but it may be something else altogether. This is something Ethereum needs to heavily improve upon.

This article goes bit more into depth on what exactly happened: https://rekt.news/whale-hunters-payday/

This is the one that got me. Just imagine how much these scammers are getting to these innocent asset holders. If the same happens for the 2nd half the year, they will be getting more or less a billion dollars for just one year. This is the reason why I always say that the scammers are becoming more and more knowledgeable with how they scam other investors. On the other hand, investors are becoming dumber and dumber especially on how they secure their assets.
To be fair, when people lose all they have they tend to just leave the ecossystem. I feel like most people who are easily scammable have already lost what they have and
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now it's getting harder to get new victims as it was in the beginning.
Not saying scammers will be gone, since it's still very profitable to scam people (sadly), but a few extra billions I'm not sure.

I disagree. There are always new fishes in the pond, one leaves, new one comes. It's perpetual.