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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Crypto Wallets => Topic started by: Cech1337 on August 31, 2024, 01:27:24 AM
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In 2024 and beyond the protection of personal assets in the digital world is a critical step you need to take and be extremly serious about. Since we feel that many people become victims of crypto scams of free wallets or get their digital assets lost because they tried to save it, we have come up with an interesting topic that can help you get more knowledge regarding the crypto wallets.
Here’s what to look for:
Free Crypto Wallet vs. Paid Options
If you're looking for a free crypto wallet (a wallet that will hold your digital assets) first ask yourself whether you use it for spending or storing?
Security Features:
Other important aspects to consider include what type of skills like the two-factor authentication or backup systems if you are keen on a given crypto ledger wallet.
Hardware Wallets:
If you're looking for more secure and reliable solution as a best hardware wallet, then you should consider going for the Ledger Nano X or Trezor. Below is a list of some of the best wallet hardware (or a good hardware wallet) in the market currently.
Compatibility:
Make sure the wallet you are going to use will hold the money type you wish to store. Because not all wallets support all the coins.
User Experience:
Having a simple and user friendly user interface is helpful especially if you're beginner in crypto space or if you're not familiar with the technology. An interface is a very crucial thing because if it's not a friendly one, it will lead to mistakes that will cost you a lot!
If you follow our article (https://www.coinspotlight.net/best-free-crypto-wallet-2024/), you will find deeper insights on this subject.
What wallets are you all using? Are there any that you like or that you have seen that’s good to avoid? Share your thoughts! Essential Tips for Choosing the Best Free Crypto Wallet
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Are there really paid crypto wallets out there? I really haven't heard of them though I think this is the first time I am. Anyways I am however familiar with open source and closed source wallets. And from my experience so far I prefer open source wallets to closed source wallets infact I have come to even prefer open source operating systems too. Back then before my exposure to the crypto space i used more of windows which is closed source until now.
Op I think you are missing interpreting hot wallets and cold wallets with free and paid crypto wallets.
Hot wallets are usually connected to the internet for quick and easier access to funds unlike cold wallets which are the opposite. Hot wallets are usually used for business purposes and constant transactions.
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Are there really paid crypto wallets out there? I really haven't heard of them though I think this is the first time I am.
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Of course they exist, they are called hardware wallets, but there are also custodial services that keep crypto for their clients and they pay them for it - just take an example of all these spot ETFs, as far as I know all of them (or most) keep coins in custodial wallets that of course they are not free.
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Hardware Wallets:
If you're looking for more secure and reliable solution as a best hardware wallet, then you should consider going for the Ledger Nano X or Trezor. Below is a list of some of the best wallet hardware (or a good hardware wallet) in the market currently.
Many would not agree that Ledger is a good solution, especially after they "invented" the recovery feature that allows you to share your seed with three different parties and pay $9.99 every month for it. From the point of view of security, this is a huge risk and I would not recommend anyone to buy such a device.
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Of course they exist, they are called hardware wallets, but there are also custodial services that keep crypto for their clients and they pay them for it - just take an example of all these spot ETFs, as far as I know all of them (or most) keep coins in custodial wallets that of course they are not free.
Of course I'm aware of the existence of hardware wallets. However the way op put it was more like you are getting a paid software for your to store your crypto currencies. I am aware about hardware wallets and how they work however I not aware of a thing that looks more like a subscription you do at intervals to keep you making use of the paid software for crypto.
The best or closest I've come across are hot wallets that actually have their way of getting their cuts from you making use of the wallet. Some may give you a pre defined fee rate to pick from in the case of bitcoin, while some others charge a little extra for transactions.
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Are there any that you like or that you have seen that’s good to avoid? Share your thoughts! Essential Tips for Choosing the Best Free Crypto Wallet
I'd avoid Ledger Nano X and Trust Wallet which mentioned on your full article. Ledger actually let stored private key extracted from the HW, even though in past they claim it's impossible to do that. Trust Wallet isn't terrible, but it's closed source and there are more popular open-source wallet out there.
And your article could mention multi-signature wallet feature as one of security features.
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It looks like an AI generated text and as long as it still recommends Ledger without a warnings. it is better to stay away from such articles as a source of information or choose a wallet based on them.
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Of course I'm aware of the existence of hardware wallets. However the way op put it was more like you are getting a paid software for your to store your crypto currencies. I am aware about hardware wallets and how they work however I not aware of a thing that looks more like a subscription you do at intervals to keep you making use of the paid software for crypto.
The best or closest I've come across are hot wallets that actually have their way of getting their cuts from you making use of the wallet. Some may give you a pre defined fee rate to pick from in the case of bitcoin, while some others charge a little extra for transactions.
Apart from hardware wallet there are other paid options too while using a software wallet. Wallets like Nunchuk, Muun wallet and many others has paid subscription too for various features and I guess people still use them as well cause we have been conditioned to using custodial service and let them take care of our funds which is not recommended but still they exist too.
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Apart from hardware wallet there are other paid options too while using a software wallet. Wallets like Nunchuk, Muun wallet and many others has paid subscription too for various features and I guess people still use them as well cause we have been conditioned to using custodial service and let them take care of our funds which is not recommended but still they exist too.
Interesting. Now that you made mention of this I think what I will have to do is basically try doing some research during my leisure via nice sources on these kind of wallets, how they are used as well as why people still make use of them instead of regular free open source wallets which are better or even closed source wallets since altcoins really don't have much open source wallets out there. Also I would like to know what basically is the difference between making use of paid wallets like this instead of probably some exchange?
Last time I checked, many exchanges including centralised exchanges are cutting down fees the charge their user just to try to gain more customers than their competitors.
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Other important aspects to consider include what type of skills like the two-factor authentication or backup systems if you are keen on a given crypto ledger wallet.
Are you recommending the opt-in leger recover service here, i don't think you know the risks of opting-in to such a service, not to mention that ledger told a big fat lie when they said the seed phrase cannot leave the device. That lie and deceit is enough for anyone to boycott Ledger devices.
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Also I would like to know what basically is the difference between making use of paid wallets like this instead of probably some exchange?
The only difference is they keep a part of seeds or entirely if it's a multi signature wallet so incase if you lost the seeds you still can access the funds and for that you are getting paid but it's actually a negative things who knows about "Not your keys Not your cryptos", but still people tend to do that cause we used to the banking system and believe they keep our funds safer than us.
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The only difference is they keep a part of seeds or entirely if it's a multi signature wallet so incase if you lost the seeds you still can access the funds and for that you are getting paid but it's actually a negative things who knows about "Not your keys Not your cryptos", but still people tend to do that cause we used to the banking system and believe they keep our funds safer than us.
So basically what I understand so far from this thread is that they are more like centralised exchanges that manage your coins and funds for you , basically because you pay them and at the same time they grant you access to your seed phrase. I'm saying this because normally exchanges don't give their users any form of seed phrase.
What the basically do is manage the funds in your exchange account with you basically trusting them probably because of your KYC verification. If that's the case there isn't much of a difference since for paid wallet, some other party has access to your seed. Which also gives them full control over the coins or Isn't that the case?
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The only difference is they keep a part of seeds or entirely if it's a multi signature wallet so incase if you lost the seeds you still can access the funds and for that you are getting paid but it's actually a negative things who knows about "Not your keys Not your cryptos", but still people tend to do that cause we used to the banking system and believe they keep our funds safer than us.
So basically what I understand so far from this thread is that they are more like centralised exchanges that manage your coins and funds for you , basically because you pay them and at the same time they grant you access to your seed phrase. I'm saying this because normally exchanges don't give their users any form of seed phrase.
What the basically do is manage the funds in your exchange account with you basically trusting them probably because of your KYC verification. If that's the case there isn't much of a difference since for paid wallet, some other party has access to your seed. Which also gives them full control over the coins or Isn't that the case?
It's different from exchange, you will have your own seeds but it's your choice to use their recovery service and imagine saving your seeds in the clouds and whenever you want it the service provider will get it for you. And they don't manage funds at all, we need to do everything just like every wallet we use and the only thing is we have a backup from third party in case if we ever need it.
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So basically what I understand so far from this thread is that they are more like centralised exchanges that manage your coins and funds for you , basically because you pay them and at the same time they grant you access to your seed phrase. I'm saying this because normally exchanges don't give their users any form of seed phrase.
No exchange gives you a seed phrase, i believe what they are talking about is a service like ledger's opt-in recovery service, which isn't a recommended service to opt-in for. I would not recommend any wallet that in one way or another makes available a service of them helping customers to keep custody of their seed phrase, it is bad practice. People should be encouraged to back up their seed phrase themselves only, no third parties at all.
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No exchange gives you a seed phrase, i believe what they are talking about is a service like ledger's opt-in recovery service, which isn't a recommended service to opt-in for. I would not recommend any wallet that in one way or another makes available a service of them helping customers to keep custody of their seed phrase, it is bad practice. People should be encouraged to back up their seed phrase themselves only, no third parties at all.
Personally I believe the importance of safeguarding one's seed phrase cannot be overestimated. Entrusting a third-party service with information as important as ones seed phrase can compromise the persons safety of funds or ownership of his cryptocurrency.
Seed phrases are quite an important data and storing it can carry a lot of pressure to some people , probably that's why they opt in for services of this nature. My point exactly is that it is also no different from an exchange in the sense that in both cases you are definitely not the only one having the ability to control your wallet. Yes seed phase isn't given on exchanges but if one should share the seed with a third party then you have also shared your ownership indirectly.
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My point exactly is that it is also no different from an exchange in the sense that in both cases you are definitely not the only one having the ability to control your wallet. Yes seed phase isn't given on exchanges but if one should share the seed with a third party then you have also shared your ownership indirectly.
I believe using an exchange basically gives you no control over your funds, since you need their permission for whatever you're trying to do with your money. Stuff like minimum withdrawal limited etc also plays a part. But yeah, trusting a third-party with your seed phrase is a bad idea whether you like an exchange or not. It's a bit naive to think you'll be safer with some random companies with how many database leaks cases these days. CMIIW.
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Personally I believe the importance of safeguarding one's seed phrase cannot be overestimated. Entrusting a third-party service with information as important as ones seed phrase can compromise the persons safety of funds or ownership of his cryptocurrency.
Seed phrases are quite an important data and storing it can carry a lot of pressure to some people , probably that's why they opt in for services of this nature. My point exactly is that it is also no different from an exchange in the sense that in both cases you are definitely not the only one having the ability to control your wallet. Yes seed phase isn't given on exchanges but if one should share the seed with a third party then you have also shared your ownership indirectly.
You are right it is very important to keep your seed phrase safe. If anyone give this information to someone else so his/her cryptocurrency might not be safe anymore. Seed phrase is like key to our digital money so we need to store it in safe place. Some of us might want to use service to store it for them but that is not good idea.
When we do that we are not only one who can control our money. You are also right that it is like using an exchange we are giving up some control. If we share our seed phrase with someone else we are basically sharing our money too. So it is very important to keep our seed phrase safe and secure.
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Honestly speaking, I've been in the field of cryptocurrency industry for a few years, and I've never used a hardware wallet, although non-custodial wallets and exchange site platforms are the only ones that I use often since 2017.
But by the grace of God, I don't encounter any problems, and I'm thankful for that, and I only use cold wallets, hot wallets, and app wallets. As long as I hold the seed or private key on a USB, it's fine, just more 1.
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No exchange gives you a seed phrase, i believe what they are talking about is a service like ledger's opt-in recovery service, which isn't a recommended service to opt-in for. I would not recommend any wallet that in one way or another makes available a service of them helping customers to keep custody of their seed phrase, it is bad practice. People should be encouraged to back up their seed phrase themselves only, no third parties at all.
Personally I believe the importance of safeguarding one's seed phrase cannot be overestimated. Entrusting a third-party service with information as important as ones seed phrase can compromise the persons safety of funds or ownership of his cryptocurrency.
Seed phrases are quite an important data and storing it can carry a lot of pressure to some people , probably that's why they opt in for services of this nature. My point exactly is that it is also no different from an exchange in the sense that in both cases you are definitely not the only one having the ability to control your wallet. Yes seed phase isn't given on exchanges but if one should share the seed with a third party then you have also shared your ownership indirectly.
Some users I think don't realize how important seed phrases are. You're right in saying maybe they don't like the pressure of managing it themselves. I don't understand why they opt for this when it's on top of the list of how to secure your assets.
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Some users I think don't realize how important seed phrases are. You're right in saying maybe they don't like the pressure of managing it themselves. I don't understand why they opt for this when it's on top of the list of how to secure your assets.
Sometimes I just come to think about the Reason why certain persons jeopardize the safety of their funds via the privacy of their seed phrases and security of their keys. Could it be that persons like this are not aware of the dangers of sharing their seeds with third parties? Or are they fully aware and for some reason still decide to do it thinking they can't keep their keys safe enough or they are aware and still just decide to keep a blind eye to all these?
Personally I don't think you need a very solid technical understanding of bitcoin to be able to understand what security of your wallet and privacy of your funds really mean. With a nice understanding of the concept of privacy and security one should be able to understand how crucial it is to store your seed and keys yourself.
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Some users I think don't realize how important seed phrases are. You're right in saying maybe they don't like the pressure of managing it themselves. I don't understand why they opt for this when it's on top of the list of how to secure your assets.
Sometimes I just come to think about the Reason why certain persons jeopardize the safety of their funds via the privacy of their seed phrases and security of their keys. Could it be that persons like this are not aware of the dangers of sharing their seeds with third parties? Or are they fully aware and for some reason still decide to do it thinking they can't keep their keys safe enough or they are aware and still just decide to keep a blind eye to all these?
It could be both in my opinion, when we started our crypto journey, we really don't know about the intricacies of wallet and how to back up or private key or mnemonic phrase. Or we are all aware, but we don't know what is the best practice for it. There could be newbies saving their important info on a cloud or even in their email. And so when hackers gets access to it, then it's going to be over for them.
Personally I don't think you need a very solid technical understanding of bitcoin to be able to understand what security of your wallet and privacy of your funds really mean. With a nice understanding of the concept of privacy and security one should be able to understand how crucial it is to store your seed and keys yourself.
At least a basic understanding of how to used wallets and then where to get the private keys and then what is the best practice being used by the industry so that you can protect it at all cost and stay away from this hackers or criminals.
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At least a basic understanding of how to used wallets and then where to get the private keys and then what is the best practice being used by the industry so that you can protect it at all cost and stay away from this hackers or criminals.
Before buying any hardware wallet, it's a good idea to first learn how users can implement maximum security and what features are provided.
This will help users understand better and also stay away from some of the traps that could be the beginning of a hack.
Each hardware wallet has its own features, has security that is always improved, users must be aware of all of that before using it.
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Fist of all we have to understand that crypto wallets are available for us to use freely except for the use of hardware wallet which may require from us the use of little amount of money in securing for one, secondly, we should have it in mind thar the best suggested wallet category is the non custodial wallets, once we know this, we are going to have direction on the types to use under them.
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Open source the better (I can't read code, but it just gives psychological assurance), user should hold seeds (unlike Word blocked because repetitive posts for example), reputation also helps — the older the wallet, more I would be inclined to trust it.
I use blue wallet, alpha wallet, metamask myself, and aforementioned reasons played role in choosing them.