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Title: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 03, 2024, 11:44:31 PM
We have launched a news site and blog for the altcoinstalks community and by the altcoinstalks community.

Anyone with a rank of senior member and above can write
- an opinion piece
- or news article
-or just an article about an upcoming project (no links allowed - no seo articles allowed)

You can also join our core team, and post regularly, and split the revenue we generate.

365Crypto.org (https://365crypto.org/)

Why?
Because sometimes we need to say stuff that are not well heard on a forum post, an opinion article makes a lot more sense and is much more effective.
Also because i believe news can be everywhere and if we pay attention, a tweet or an update can be helpful to a lot of people.

It's easy, you don't have to be a journalist!
On the forum we forbid the use of AI, because on the forum, you don't need AI for interaction and discussion. On the blog we allow you to use AI, we even ask you to use it, to make sure that the content is easy to understand and well structured (yes, AI does a great job at that).

You can also earn money!
On the blog site there are multiple sections, participating in these sections gets you points.
- Writing articles and blog posts > gets you points
- Adding videos > gets you points > commenting on videos gets you points
- Adding links and other stuff > gets you points
Not all the points are equal (articles earn much more points than adding a video) , but each activity allows to earn points.
You do not even have to have a good English to participate, as you would be able to participate in your local language.
Half of the ad revenue will be distributed to the members earning the points. (there will be a dedicated blog wallet, where all revenue will go to)
And there will be additional prizes based on activity and dedication.

How do i sign up ?
send me a pm on the forum precising what you would like to be involved in, here's the options:
1 - Articles/News/Blog (hardest)
2 - Videos > adding links and a short description (easiest)
3 - Add links with images and text (mid)

Your username will be exactly like the one you have on the forum and you will be sent a password and instructions on how to login and contribute.

It is a great opportunity to be part of something real, it is very early stage thus you can establish yourself as a member of the core team.

Attention: Distribution will only start when the blog site starts earning money from ads

If you are still not convinced, i'm sure this will convince you:

(https://i.imgur.com/w9xBie6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/d28vF4Y.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ahPPnA1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/moNTcyg.png)


Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: SamReomo on September 03, 2024, 11:57:09 PM
I'm happy to be part of the blogging team and surely it's a great opportunity for those like minded people who always wanted to have their own blog where they can write articles and earn money. I believe it's the right time to take decision and join such an amazing platform where you can share your ideas, opinion, and knowledge in the form of posts and at the same time you get points for the work and once the blog gets success which's likely to happen, then you'll ultimately get 50% ad revenue for your contribution. +1
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 05, 2024, 11:11:45 PM
It's looking nice but I would prefer to see switch for changing theme from light to dark and vice versa.
Is it allowed to post articles from other website sources without posting original links as contribution?
I didn't check for plagiarism, but I have seen very similar articles posted recently.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 06, 2024, 01:14:07 AM
It's looking nice but I would prefer to see switch for changing theme from light to dark and vice versa.
Is it allowed to post articles from other website sources without posting original links as contribution?
I didn't check for plagiarism, but I have seen very similar articles posted recently.

It's wild west, everything allowed especially AI
AI is recommended even,
with time restrictions will come, for now no restrictions
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 06, 2024, 06:39:10 PM
It's wild west, everything allowed especially AI
AI is recommended even,
with time restrictions will come, for now no restrictions
Sorry but I don't like this.  :P
You need to add source links, and you can't start like this with plagiarism and expect something good to turn out in the end.
It's much better to have less articles that are more quality, than large quantity of copy-paste articles coming from other sources.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 06, 2024, 07:28:42 PM
It's wild west, everything allowed especially AI
AI is recommended even,
with time restrictions will come, for now no restrictions
Sorry but I don't like this.  :P
You need to add source links, and you can't start like this with plagiarism and expect something good to turn out in the end.
It's much better to have less articles that are more quality, than large quantity of copy-paste articles coming from other sources.

1- there's no copy pasting, it is the AI that does the writing
2-  all these crypto news sites, rewrite the exact same articles, same in political news, based on a tweet or some data , same in tech, same in everything ...
that's the reality of news sites, then layer 2, you have local news sites > these guys do translating ...
only difference with our site is that we are fully embracing AI, because sooner or later everyone will, so we have a small head start
3- news/blog site with 1-2posts a week is a dead site, it's a site that is publishing for google not for people. 
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 06, 2024, 07:38:04 PM
furthermore the innocent "news sites " especially the big ones are big manipulators, for instance one such site have been publishing article after the other with different titles about how btc will be 50K according to an ex exchange cofounder, what the heck do they know, what the heck do anyone know, but with big sites like this that make and break sentiment , don't think news is neutral ...
we are new, we have nothing to lose by embracing AI, it's a gamble, if it works we hope we might get those As*sho*les out of business one day.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 06, 2024, 07:50:24 PM
furthermore the innocent "news sites " especially the big ones are big manipulators, for instance one such site have been publishing article after the other with different titles about how btc will be 50K according to an ex exchange cofounder, what the heck do they know, what the heck do anyone know, but with big sites like this that make and break sentiment , don't think news is neutral ...
we are new, we have nothing to lose by embracing AI, it's a gamble, if it works we hope we might get those As*sho*les out of business one day.

too radical here ... maybe not take them out of business but maybe be an alternative ... who knows ... or we might end up the same  ;D , nah i don't think so
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 09, 2024, 11:49:53 PM
1- there's no copy pasting, it is the AI that does the writing
AI = Plagiarism because AI only uses combined text from other articles and sources found online, maybe it's even worse than simple plagiarism.
In Bitcointalk forum we are reporting AI generated posts same as plagiarism and moderators are deleting them.
I am not going to tell you how you run your news website, this are just my thoughts and opinions ;)
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 10, 2024, 12:34:32 AM
1- there's no copy pasting, it is the AI that does the writing
AI = Plagiarism because AI only uses combined text from other articles and sources found online, maybe it's even worse than simple plagiarism.
In Bitcointalk forum we are reporting AI generated posts same as plagiarism and moderators are deleting them.
I am not going to tell you how you run your news website, this are just my thoughts and opinions ;)
ok, thank you for sharing your thoughts
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 10, 2024, 12:46:33 AM
1- there's no copy pasting, it is the AI that does the writing
AI = Plagiarism because AI only uses combined text from other articles and sources found online, maybe it's even worse than simple plagiarism.
In Bitcointalk forum we are reporting AI generated posts same as plagiarism and moderators are deleting them.
I am not going to tell you how you run your news website, this are just my thoughts and opinions ;)

here we are also reporting AI posts, but you need to understand the logic behind it.
a forum is a place for interaction, plagia or AI > it's faking interactions >> aka usually account farms

As for AI and articles, i do believe we are not told the full truth, AI is not simply randomly statistically adding words
the same, it's not randomly creating images,
there is an intelligence in there whether it was intentional or unintentional
in 5 years, no newspaper or news site will bother hire journalists to write, their jobs will just find stories and give the AI a couple phrases.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: bitmover on September 10, 2024, 05:03:53 PM
1- there's no copy pasting, it is the AI that does the writing
2-  all these crypto news sites, rewrite the exact same articles, same in political news, based on a tweet or some data , same in tech, same in everything ...
that's the reality of news sites, then layer 2, you have local news sites > these guys do translating ...
only difference with our site is that we are fully embracing AI, because sooner or later everyone will, so we have a small head start
3- news/blog site with 1-2posts a week is a dead site, it's a site that is publishing for google not for people.

I have some experience with articles writing, and I will give my 2 cc about this.

AI can generate content, it can write articles. However, there are important SEO techniques which I don't think AI will do exactly right.

For example, transition words (https://www.seoptimer.com/blog/seo-transition-words/), paragraph size, etc etc...

I know AI can do that, but I think search engines will detect Ai usage, the solutions of the AI wont be perfect, and you will end up having problems getting good google searches rank in 365 crypto.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 10, 2024, 11:56:38 PM
AI can generate content, it can write articles. However, there are important SEO techniques which I don't think AI will do exactly right.
AI can also make huge mistakes when making replies to questions.
A while ago I was doing some testing of my own and I wrote about it in forum, I used Brave AI to generate post content and Ai gave me completely false and incorrect information.
In same sentence I received to two totally different answers about one and the same thing.
Now imagine this happening to any blog and news website... that wouldn't look good at all.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 11, 2024, 12:03:16 AM
AI can generate content, it can write articles. However, there are important SEO techniques which I don't think AI will do exactly right.
AI can also make huge mistakes when making replies to questions.
A while ago I was doing some testing of my own and I wrote about it in forum, I used Brave AI to generate post content and Ai gave me completely false and incorrect information.
In same sentence I received to two totally different answers about one and the same thing.
Now imagine this happening to any blog and news website... that wouldn't look good at all.

the stronger the AI the better the results,
chatgpt pretty good, Elon's AI might be even stronger
https://365crypto.org/blog/2024/09/03/elon-musk-launching-the-most-powerful-ai/
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: examplens on September 11, 2024, 12:15:20 AM
AI can generate content, it can write articles. However, there are important SEO techniques which I don't think AI will do exactly right.
AI can also make huge mistakes when making replies to questions.
A while ago I was doing some testing of my own and I wrote about it in forum, I used Brave AI to generate post content and Ai gave me completely false and incorrect information.
In same sentence I received to two totally different answers about one and the same thing.
Now imagine this happening to any blog and news website... that wouldn't look good at all.

the stronger the AI the better the results,
chatgpt pretty good, Elon's AI might be even stronger
https://365crypto.org/blog/2024/09/03/elon-musk-launching-the-most-powerful-ai/
No matter how powerful the AI ​​is, there is still a machine behind everything.

A few days ago in an affiliate marketing group, a user shared a very bad experience with AI. Namely, his blog has been suspended by Mediavine, as the reason for this is too much AI content.

Otherwise, if someone doesn't know, Mediavine is currently the biggest and strongest ad network, with the best payment rate, but also with the strictest conditions. For example, a minimum of 50,000 monthly page views (by GA) with rigorous checks of the content on the site.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 11, 2024, 01:04:26 AM
AI can generate content, it can write articles. However, there are important SEO techniques which I don't think AI will do exactly right.
AI can also make huge mistakes when making replies to questions.
A while ago I was doing some testing of my own and I wrote about it in forum, I used Brave AI to generate post content and Ai gave me completely false and incorrect information.
In same sentence I received to two totally different answers about one and the same thing.
Now imagine this happening to any blog and news website... that wouldn't look good at all.

the stronger the AI the better the results,
chatgpt pretty good, Elon's AI might be even stronger
https://365crypto.org/blog/2024/09/03/elon-musk-launching-the-most-powerful-ai/
No matter how powerful the AI ​​is, there is still a machine behind everything.

A few days ago in an affiliate marketing group, a user shared a very bad experience with AI. Namely, his blog has been suspended by Mediavine, as the reason for this is too much AI content.

Otherwise, if someone doesn't know, Mediavine is currently the biggest and strongest ad network, with the best payment rate, but also with the strictest conditions. For example, a minimum of 50,000 monthly page views (by GA) with rigorous checks of the content on the site.

good that i'm not planning to use mediavine then, nor google ads for that matter
these companies will reverse stance, or simply disappear, AI will take over content entirely whether we like it or not.
only real content will be left in interactions like forums and chats (unless users cheat, but that's a different story)
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: bitmover on September 11, 2024, 08:38:42 PM
Hey admin,
How to create an account and write the first topic? I miss practical instructions like that.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 12, 2024, 12:09:04 AM
the stronger the AI the better the results,
chatgpt pretty good, Elon's AI might be even stronger
https://365crypto.org/blog/2024/09/03/elon-musk-launching-the-most-powerful-ai/
They are all creating one narrative that was directed by it's developers so I can't trust anything coming from any AI.
I am sure they are going to use this to spread information only they want to show and censor everything they don't like.
This can be disaster for Bitcoin and crypto space, so U don't want to help them by using this tools.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 12, 2024, 11:17:24 AM
the stronger the AI the better the results,
chatgpt pretty good, Elon's AI might be even stronger
https://365crypto.org/blog/2024/09/03/elon-musk-launching-the-most-powerful-ai/
They are all creating one narrative that was directed by it's developers so I can't trust anything coming from any AI.
I am sure they are going to use this to spread information only they want to show and censor everything they don't like.
This can be disaster for Bitcoin and crypto space, so U don't want to help them by using this tools.

AI is pretty strong, most people just don't realize how much
i have interacted with it in :
text content , graphic and even code
... it is impressive and it's just the beginning

Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: examplens on September 12, 2024, 01:52:29 PM
good that i'm not planning to use mediavine then, nor google ads for that matter
these companies will reverse stance, or simply disappear, AI will take over content entirely whether we like it or not.
only real content will be left in interactions like forums and chats (unless users cheat, but that's a different story)
I'm not targeting your potential cooperation with Mediavine here, but something else.
If they, as one of the biggest players, started to penalize sites with AI content, it could easily spill over to others, not only from the ad network branch. What if Google also decides to marginalize sites with AI content, so that such sites are practically invisible. And the invisibility of a site on G. is practically the end of that business.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 12, 2024, 02:59:37 PM
good that i'm not planning to use mediavine then, nor google ads for that matter
these companies will reverse stance, or simply disappear, AI will take over content entirely whether we like it or not.
only real content will be left in interactions like forums and chats (unless users cheat, but that's a different story)
I'm not targeting your potential cooperation with Mediavine here, but something else.
If they, as one of the biggest players, started to penalize sites with AI content, it could easily spill over to others, not only from the ad network branch. What if Google also decides to marginalize sites with AI content, so that such sites are practically invisible. And the invisibility of a site on G. is practically the end of that business.

i see your point
but to be clear, the website was not created for google
i know how google operates, and the new penalty he has every 2-3 years ,
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: PX-Z on September 12, 2024, 06:02:00 PM
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
Well, SEO optimization usually means organic traffic, I don't think any webmaster doesn't like this kind of traffic as it's the better source of traffic than any website could ever have, unless most users here will directly use/visit/read those articles on the site too.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 12, 2024, 08:48:38 PM
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
Well, SEO optimization usually means organic traffic, I don't think any webmaster doesn't like this kind of traffic as it's the better source of traffic than any website could ever have, unless most users here will directly use/visit/read those articles on the site too.

i am not saying absolutely no to google traffic
but in the greater scheme of things, priority is lots of relevant new content 
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 13, 2024, 12:11:03 AM
i know how google operates, and the new penalty he has every 2-3 years ,
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
Based on what you just wrote it's obvious that you don't know much about how g00gle and internet operates today.
How do you think people will find your news website? By luck or coincidence?
It surely won't happen by regular search, even with other search engines outside g00gle circle.
You would probably have better chance of winning on lottery ticket than have a profit with that kind of layback news website.
I would like for you to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 13, 2024, 12:33:12 PM
i know how google operates, and the new penalty he has every 2-3 years ,
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
Based on what you just wrote it's obvious that you don't know much about how g00gle and internet operates today.
How do you think people will find your news website? By luck or coincidence?
It surely won't happen by regular search, even with other search engines outside g00gle circle.
You would probably have better chance of winning on lottery ticket than have a profit with that kind of layback news website.
I would like for you to prove me wrong.

It's a conscient choice i am making
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: examplens on September 13, 2024, 01:09:44 PM
i see your point
but to be clear, the website was not created for google
i know how google operates, and the new penalty he has every 2-3 years ,
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
I will return to the beginning of the story about the excessive use of AI content. Negative branding of the site affects all services, Mediavine and Google are just examples.

For example, a penalized site will have poor domain authority, which means that it will become undesirable for backlinks. Few will want to be linked on such a site, and the domain will end up on disavow lists very quickly. It just leads to further sinking.

Next, sm networks like FB, Instagram... will censor or prohibit the sharing of links to your site (they often do this with low-level sites, they don't do much research on the reasons). Practically, you will make your site become just your private hobby, maybe a few more people from this forum.

You can't say that you don't want to play someone's game, and you want to be part of that game.

At some point you will want to monetize the whole thing, at least that's what you announced, and that will be very difficult if you are completely anonymous. Why would anyone want to advertise on a site that has a very limited audience?
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 13, 2024, 01:20:06 PM
i see your point
but to be clear, the website was not created for google
i know how google operates, and the new penalty he has every 2-3 years ,
i am not playing his games, SEO optimisation and shit like that, the site is for opinions and news, for people not search bots.
I will return to the beginning of the story about the excessive use of AI content. Negative branding of the site affects all services, Mediavine and Google are just examples.

For example, a penalized site will have poor domain authority, which means that it will become undesirable for backlinks. Few will want to be linked on such a site, and the domain will end up on disavow lists very quickly. It just leads to further sinking.

Next, sm networks like FB, Instagram... will censor or prohibit the sharing of links to your site (they often do this with low-level sites, they don't do much research on the reasons). Practically, you will make your site become just your private hobby, maybe a few more people from this forum.

You can't say that you don't want to play someone's game, and you want to be part of that game.

At some point you will want to monetize the whole thing, at least that's what you announced, and that will be very difficult if you are completely anonymous. Why would anyone want to advertise on a site that has a very limited audience?

let's put this discussion to rest please,
I will not monetise using existing networks, the same way this forum is not monetised using existing networks.
I am not new to the internet business, i know how seo works,
the assumptions everyone making about AI content, is assumptions, in reality no one knows how the coin will land, i am making a bet that it will favour AI when it comes to long content.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: dkbit98 on September 13, 2024, 11:18:56 PM
 :o
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: bitmover on September 17, 2024, 02:45:39 PM
I still don't see a place to login in 365crypto.org , to create an account to write comments or to write an article.

It would be nice to be able to login with our altcoinstalk account.

I still see most article are also written by the same account, the admin 365crypto.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 17, 2024, 04:22:13 PM
I still don't see a place to login in 365crypto.org , to create an account to write comments or to write an article.

It would be nice to be able to login with our altcoinstalk account.

I still see most article are also written by the same account, the admin 365crypto.
i am adding accounts manually,
i am thinking of a way to use the altt account to login,
but not in near future
i will create an account for you and send you login details
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: bitmover on September 17, 2024, 06:32:28 PM
i am adding accounts manually,
i am thinking of a way to use the altt account to login,
but not in near future
i will create an account for you and send you login details

I know there are some ways to do cross login implementations using tools like OAuth 2, and maybe even auth0 (paid) has something that would make this job easier.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: examplens on September 17, 2024, 11:23:33 PM
I know there are some ways to do cross login implementations using tools like OAuth 2, and maybe even auth0 (paid) has something that would make this job easier.
I don't know if the forum and the news portal are on the same or separate servers, but I think that connecting the user database can only cause additional complications in the future. It is always a practice to use different user/pass for each login, I don't see a big advantage of using the same combination on both domains.

I would rather go in the direction of automated conversion of a certain forum post into a news article on the site. Some kind of bot that the admin will call upon request and after revising the post. It would also make it easier for possible updates.
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 17, 2024, 11:32:17 PM
I know there are some ways to do cross login implementations using tools like OAuth 2, and maybe even auth0 (paid) has something that would make this job easier.
I don't know if the forum and the news portal are on the same or separate servers, but I think that connecting the user database can only cause additional complications in the future. It is always a practice to use different user/pass for each login, I don't see a big advantage of using the same combination on both domains.

I would rather go in the direction of automated conversion of a certain forum post into a news article on the site. Some kind of bot that the admin will call upon request and after revising the post. It would also make it easier for possible updates.

different servers, and for sure databases would not be connected, however simplifying login based on existing user that's something should be examined
post from forum to site won't happen, because on site posts require more diligence, automating forum to site would lead to issues (might consider this for certain categories) but not for now
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: bitmover on September 17, 2024, 11:57:36 PM
different servers, and for sure databases would not be connected, however simplifying login based on existing user that's something should be examined

If you allow users to Comment on posts using their altcoinstalks.com account (maybe even with sig?) Could ne nice.

I know that Commenting using social media is very good for seo
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: admin on September 18, 2024, 12:26:02 AM
different servers, and for sure databases would not be connected, however simplifying login based on existing user that's something should be examined

If you allow users to Comment on posts using their altcoinstalks.com account (maybe even with sig?) Could ne nice.

I know that Commenting using social media is very good for seo
i wish it was that easy, will see the feasibility though
Title: Re: A Blog and news site and more for the AltcoinsTalks community
Post by: MoneRs on November 01, 2024, 02:50:36 PM
Indeed, using accounts for commenting could enhance user interaction and impact SEO. I hope the discussion on the feasibility of implementing this functionality yields positive results.