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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: Forsyth Jones on September 07, 2024, 01:35:04 AM
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
Yes it's better. Most users prefer to make use of VPNs before connecting to their wallets. The job of the VPN is to mask you IP and that is supposed to make it more difficult for your IP to be easily discovered or traced. The whole VPN stuff is mainly about people who are very much concerned about their privacy and are trying as much as possible to make themselves anonymous in majority of the connections they make with the internet.
Sometimes certain people run their own bitcoin nodes just because they don't wish to connect to the nodes of other people since they would need to share some certain data like IP, transaction history and a couple of other things. However some on the other hand prefer to make use the VPN only.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
certainly because not only does it mask your ip address it also helps in securing your device when connected to internet we know how that can make us vulnerable if someone is connected to the internet and would gain access to your device especially if it’s public
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I'm assuming you are accessing your online custodial wallets/accounts, right? I'm afraid that connecting with a suspicious location might trigger something within the service and maybe (?) freeze your account. I haven't read about this situation before, but perhaps someone could share if they know something about it.
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certainly because not only does it mask your ip address it also helps in securing your device when connected to internet we know how that can make us vulnerable if someone is connected to the internet and would gain access to your device especially if it’s public
I think that's quite it. VPN means virtual private network meaning it allows you connect to a network that would mask you IP and connection to the internet making it possible for you to access the internet via a private network. VPN gives you a nice level of security however it's not as private and strong as certain persons think. If you require further privacy, browsing the internet via a safe browser like Tor would also add up an extra layer of security.
Also for the case of a bitcoin wallet, thanks to bitcoin having a decentralised network, you can also create and Run your own node ensure further privacy of your network especially if you don't wish to share certain data with public nodes.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
Yes it is. But try to avoid free VPN. They basically steal your data, most of them.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
It depends on what kind of privacy you want. VPN can hide your real IP and location, but the server still know list of address owned by you. Some user may mention running your own node and server, but it's not cheap option especially if you own coin where it's blockchain have big size.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
It depends on what kind of privacy you want. VPN can hide your real IP and location, but the server still know list of address owned by you. Some user may mention running your own node and server, but it's not cheap option especially if you own coin where it's blockchain have big size.
Yeah, this is indeed a problem.
Even hiding your IP, they will know all those addresses are connected. Because you make a request to the node for the balance of all those addresses together...
The only way to really have privacy is to run your own full node. So you request all addresses balance, not only the ones you own the private key
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
VPN is not 100% private the platform provide the service might keep all your logs and activities.
TOR is the safest way and yes it helps to be private by not leaking out IPs connected to the network but it can be little slower than no masking but it's worth the time. You should run own node via TOR for complete privacy.
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I think that's quite it. VPN means virtual private network meaning it allows you connect to a network that would mask you IP and connection to the internet making it possible for you to access the internet via a private network. VPN gives you a nice level of security however it's not as private and strong as certain persons think. If you require further privacy, browsing the internet via a safe browser like Tor would also add up an extra layer of security.
Also for the case of a bitcoin wallet, thanks to bitcoin having a decentralised network, you can also create and Run your own node ensure further privacy of your network especially if you don't wish to share certain data with public nodes.
I use Tor from time to time, but some sites restrict access to Tor, so a VPN in this case becomes an interesting option.
Yes it is. But try to avoid free VPN. They basically steal your data, most of them.
You have a point, I don't use free VPNs as I know the risk is higher, the security and encryption they offer is not the same as paid VPNs.
Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
It depends on what kind of privacy you want. VPN can hide your real IP and location, but the server still know list of address owned by you. Some user may mention running your own node and server, but it's not cheap option especially if you own coin where it's blockchain have big size.
Yeah, this is indeed a problem.
Even hiding your IP, they will know all those addresses are connected. Because you make a request to the node for the balance of all those addresses together...
The only way to really have privacy is to run your own full node. So you request all addresses balance, not only the ones you own the private key
So, about this, when using elelctrum for example, which uses several public servers, when our wallet connects to these servers, several data are shared with them such as XPUB, balance in addresses, etc., only xpriv, seed, etc. data are not revealed...
VPN is not 100% private the platform provide the service might keep all your logs and activities.
TOR is the safest way and yes it helps to be private by not leaking out IPs connected to the network but it can be little slower than no masking but it's worth the time. You should run own node via TOR for complete privacy.
It's true that VPNs claim not to record user logs, but who can guarantee that?
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
It depends on what kind of privacy you want. VPN can hide your real IP and location, but the server still know list of address owned by you. Some user may mention running your own node and server, but it's not cheap option especially if you own coin where it's blockchain have big size.
Yeah, this is indeed a problem.
Even hiding your IP, they will know all those addresses are connected. Because you make a request to the node for the balance of all those addresses together...
The only way to really have privacy is to run your own full node. So you request all addresses balance, not only the ones you own the private key
So, about this, when using elelctrum for example, which uses several public servers, when our wallet connects to these servers, several data are shared with them such as XPUB, balance in addresses, etc., only xpriv, seed, etc. data are not revealed...
Your data is revealed.
You basically request the balance of your first 50 addressed and 50 change addresses from your wallet.
Servers will save that information as your wallet and connected addresses. We don't know what they will do with it. Delete, sell to chain analysis, etc..
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So, about this, when using elelctrum for example, which uses several public servers, when our wallet connects to these servers, several data are shared with them such as XPUB, balance in addresses, etc., only xpriv, seed, etc. data are not revealed...
What being sent it list of your addresses. AFAIK it doesn't send XPUB or balance of your address. That means the server could know that those addresses belong to same wallet or owner.
VPN is not 100% private the platform provide the service might keep all your logs and activities.
TOR is the safest way and yes it helps to be private by not leaking out IPs connected to the network but it can be little slower than no masking but it's worth the time. You should run own node via TOR for complete privacy.
It's true that VPNs claim not to record user logs, but who can guarantee that?
Nobody could do that. At best, you could see history of the VPN company and see whether they caught selling user data in past or have history giving data upon government request.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
Yes it is. But try to avoid free VPN. They basically steal your data, most of them.
A free VPN will only be a trap to retrieve the cookies of those connected to the free VPN.
The perfect trap for people who don't care about the security of their own devices and are stingy enough to buy a premium VPN.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
Using a VPN to access your wallet can significantly enhance your privacy and security IF you are using a reliable VPN provider. As many have mentioned, using a VPN does not give you complete anonymity. Using TOR with a VPN can give you better privacy and protection, but it can be slower and some wallets are incompatible with TOR.
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We must assume that all data is stored. The important thing is that this data travels encrypted over the network. Companies that offer VPN services have never seemed trustworthy to me, they wouldn't get in trouble for a fee of $5 or $10 a month in case a problem occurred, which would mean that we could have serious problems depending on the activities those wallets are used for.
VPNs offer ease of use, installation and are ready to use, but many of those VPNs (some free and some paid) have trojans installed, especially keyloggers. I've always preferred to use open source software for this sort of thing, as the community is always free to review the code and improve it wherever possible. Personally, Tor is always the best option.
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No, VPN is not some magical thing that can make your transaction private, especially not if you are using some cheap and free vpn service.
Data for most VPN services are collected into one account and that source information is available for most governments, and can be hacked.
Using something good like Mullvad VPN can minimize the risks, but I would not blindly trust any VPN.
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VPN gives you a nice level of security however it's not as private and strong as certain persons think.
yup vpn still has its own limitations it helps conceal you but it does not make you totally invisible there are still many ways for your data to be tracked and acquired even with a vpn
accepting cookies from websites you visits and willingly inputting your information on these websites are ways to get your data that vpn will not help conceal anymore
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Using a VPN or Tor in combination or separately can improve one's privacy, but far from anyone needing to live in the belief that they can achieve 100% privacy that way. Maybe someone won't like it, but those who are in any way involved with cryptocurrencies are somehow considered a "threat" to the system, because using cryptocurrencies as currency is a direct encroachment on financial systems that, on the other hand, serve as one of the main means of control people and the whole world.
You still think these are all conspiracy theories?
In an internal NSA report dating back to March 2013, the agency indicated that it had used at least one source of information to target bitcoin users, leveraging its sophisticated tools to collect and analyze global internet traffic data, while also exploiting an unnamed software program which is said to protect the identity of users, reported The Intercept. One memo from the NSA, cited by the media outlet, suggested that the agency collected private information on bitcoin users including passwords, internet activity, and device identifiers.
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Better than being naked, I suppose but don't go with random VPN providers, as they may do more harm than good. Find and stick with reputed ones, shall you use one.
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Better than being naked, I suppose but don't go with random VPN providers, as they may do more harm than good. Find and stick with reputed ones, shall you use one.
I think that's also part of the problem from my point of view. And it's a question I've been asking myself for years... Who watches the watchman?. Nobody watches the watchman, so he has complete freedom to do what he wants with all the information he obtains daily, and that's a big problem, even if people ignore it or don't care. Users not only cannot know what they do with our data, but we also do not have access to the source code of the clients that we install on our devices. Open source code eliminates these problems.
This article is recent and very interesting on the topic we talked about in this thread: Exposed: How Israeli spies control your VPN (https://mronline.org/2024/09/13/exposed-how-israeli-spies-control-your-vpn/).
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@Freemind, If only part of what is in the article is true, everyone who uses such software should really ask themselves if there is any point in using it at all. It seems to me that most of today's VPNs have owners who are connected to intelligence agencies around the world, because for them it's a win-win situation considering that they (the owners) make serious money, and at the same time they probably sell user data to interested parties.
For much better privacy, it is still better to use Tor, which is free and much harder to spy on, but of course it can be quite slow and unusable on some websites.
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Better than being naked, I suppose but don't go with random VPN providers, as they may do more harm than good. Find and stick with reputed ones, shall you use one.
If someone is in Brazil, China, Russia, UK or other countries that have crazy censorship laws VPN can be better than using nothing.
But most VPN services are crap and they are probably already working with government, or they are just one of honeypot agencies.
Only VPN service I would somehow recommend is Mullvad, and they accept bitcoin, monero and other coins:
https://mullvad.net/
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@Freemind, If only part of what is in the article is true, everyone who uses such software should really ask themselves if there is any point in using it at all. It seems to me that most of today's VPNs have owners who are connected to intelligence agencies around the world, because for them it's a win-win situation considering that they (the owners) make serious money, and at the same time they probably sell user data to interested parties.
For much better privacy, it is still better to use Tor, which is free and much harder to spy on, but of course it can be quite slow and unusable on some websites.
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That news appeared a few days ago in various media. Unfortunately, it does not surprise me that some government (or several governments) carry out these types of practices to control the flow of information and data from users while at the same time they talk to us about "freedom" and what they call "nations that base their principles on the freedom of their citizens".
I have never liked VPNs and I have always looked for a way to do everything with open source software, from the operating system to a simple FTP client for example. There are also open source VPN solutions that work very well, like OpenVPN, but I don't understand why people don't want to use them, it's not difficult to set up the program. That's why I talk about Tor whenever I can, the more people who know it the better.
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@Freemind, If only part of what is in the article is true, everyone who uses such software should really ask themselves if there is any point in using it at all.
I'm not sure about relation with Israel, but i'm sure Kape technologies have violate user's privacy for many years. There are so many websites talks about their behavior.
There are also open source VPN solutions that work very well, like OpenVPN, but I don't understand why people don't want to use them, it's not difficult to set up the program.
Do you mean renting VPS and install/configure OpenVPN manually? If so, it's not surprising since average people don't want to interact with terminal.
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I have never liked VPNs and I have always looked for a way to do everything with open source software, from the operating system to a simple FTP client for example. There are also open source VPN solutions that work very well, like OpenVPN, but I don't understand why people don't want to use them, it's not difficult to set up the program. That's why I talk about Tor whenever I can, the more people who know it the better.
Various researches show that around 30-40% of internet users use a VPN, and we are talking about 1.5 to 2 billion people - while on the other hand, the number of Tor users is on average around 2 million people (https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html), and that is a really huge difference. It just proves that very few people value their privacy, or what's worse, they understand it in a completely wrong way.
How hard can it be to download the Tor browser and use it? It does not require any technical skills, but it is obvious that many people are not even aware of its existence. On the other hand, VPNs are promoted everywhere as a way to be anonymous, and it's obvious that billions believe this to be true and pay tens of billions of dollars for it every year.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
Yes it is. But try to avoid free VPN. They basically steal your data, most of them.
One must really invest some money for paid VPN if there is a need to add additional and effective layer of protection and security to what one is doing online especially in connection with wallets. Now, in countries where the government is quite so jealous with people in cryptocurrency, a reliable VPN service can be much needed. In today's world, there are people and agencies that may love to track us to see if we are owning some crypto and for how much and they can be targetting those whom they think they can get something worthwhile of the time and effort...and we are already seeing something like this on the news. So hiding one's data and traces can be a good idea and we can start with utilizing a VPN. still, it does not mean that if you are using a VPN that everything will be secured as there will still many risks and some of them can be unknown to some of us. I would then say that VPN can be a good start. At this moment, am wondering what are the best VPN service providers we can look at...one that maybe is working also with the cryptocurrency industry for years.
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Do you mean renting VPS and install/configure OpenVPN manually? If so, it's not surprising since average people don't want to interact with terminal.
What you mention is one way to do it for example, but there are some more ways to configure it without having much knowledge. Interacting with the terminal is much easier (for certain things) and safer than using any other way of using an operating system. Laziness is one of the causes of most of the problems that many users have regarding the security of their devices.
Various researches show that around 30-40% of internet users use a VPN, and we are talking about 1.5 to 2 billion people - while on the other hand, the number of Tor users is on average around 2 million people (https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html), and that is a really huge difference. It just proves that very few people value their privacy, or what's worse, they understand it in a completely wrong way.
How hard can it be to download the Tor browser and use it? It does not require any technical skills, but it is obvious that many people are not even aware of its existence. On the other hand, VPNs are promoted everywhere as a way to be anonymous, and it's obvious that billions believe this to be true and pay tens of billions of dollars for it every year.
This difference in users is abysmal, and demonstrates once again what I just said, laziness. Laziness to use something unknown, something that people may believe that you have to be a hacker to be able to use it... For most it is easier to download an app, install it and that's it. Without knowing what that app has in the code. Unfortunately it all comes down to laziness, to having everything done for us, to not having to read a simple manual or learn to use a terminal that in the long run will make us learn many things. Sad but true, like the song.
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Do you mean renting VPS and install/configure OpenVPN manually? If so, it's not surprising since average people don't want to interact with terminal.
What you mention is one way to do it for example, but there are some more ways to configure it without having much knowledge.
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Could you share example guide or tutorial without needing much knowledge? All guide i saw always involve terminal or linux.
Various researches show that around 30-40% of internet users use a VPN, and we are talking about 1.5 to 2 billion people - while on the other hand, the number of Tor users is on average around 2 million people (https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html), and that is a really huge difference. It just proves that very few people value their privacy, or what's worse, they understand it in a completely wrong way.
How hard can it be to download the Tor browser and use it? It does not require any technical skills, but it is obvious that many people are not even aware of its existence. On the other hand, VPNs are promoted everywhere as a way to be anonymous, and it's obvious that billions believe this to be true and pay tens of billions of dollars for it every year.
This difference in users is abysmal, and demonstrates once again what I just said, laziness. Laziness to use something unknown, something that people may believe that you have to be a hacker to be able to use it... For most it is easier to download an app, install it and that's it. Without knowing what that app has in the code. Unfortunately it all comes down to laziness, to having everything done for us, to not having to read a simple manual or learn to use a terminal that in the long run will make us learn many things. Sad but true, like the song.
Laziness isn't the only reason though. Unlike VPN, there's little promotion/advertising about Tor and Tor Browser. Some media news also biased negatively towards Tor, which give people bad impression.
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This difference in users is abysmal, and demonstrates once again what I just said, laziness. Laziness to use something unknown, something that people may believe that you have to be a hacker to be able to use it... For most it is easier to download an app, install it and that's it. Without knowing what that app has in the code. Unfortunately it all comes down to laziness, to having everything done for us, to not having to read a simple manual or learn to use a terminal that in the long run will make us learn many things. Sad but true, like the song.
Laziness isn't the only reason though. Unlike VPN, there's little promotion/advertising about Tor and Tor Browser. Some media news also biased negatively towards Tor, which give people bad impression.
It seems to me that it is somewhat a question of laziness in the sense that the majority of users do not want to investigate alternatives at all, and on the other hand, if they read several times that something is bad, then they start to believe it.
Bitcoin is a clear example of how the media influence public opinion to the extent that they dissuade people from investing in it, while at the same time they very easily convince them that investing in government bonds is a great thing and they will be happy that in 1 or 2 years they got 3% interest, but they have to pretend they don't know how much inflation was in that period.
Honestly, I was also surprised that so few people use Tor, which on the other hand might be bad because it's easier to identify those who use it, right?
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Honestly, I was also surprised that so few people use Tor, which on the other hand might be bad because it's easier to identify those who use it, right?
I believe speed or stability is the main issue for that, hence why the average joe prefers to use VPNs. On the other hand, I'm surprised that my country is included in the top 10 countries that use TOR regularly. Still, the number is abysmal compared to the number of daily internet users.
What you mention is one way to do it for example, but there are some more ways to configure it without having much knowledge. Interacting with the terminal is much easier (for certain things) and safer than using any other way of using an operating system.
I'm also interested in finding out how to set up my own VPN server without using any command/terminal etc. I do realize that OpenVPN offers 2 free VPN servers with their Access Server product, and tons of websites offer downloadable OpenVPN configs that people can use freely. I can't trust the latter though.
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Honestly, I was also surprised that so few people use Tor, which on the other hand might be bad because it's easier to identify those who use it, right?
I believe speed or stability is the main issue for that, hence why the average joe prefers to use VPNs. On the other hand, I'm surprised that my country is included in the top 10 countries that use TOR regularly. Still, the number is abysmal compared to the number of daily internet users.
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I personally don't have too many complaints about speed when it comes to Tor, but from time to time it is necessary to change the Tor circuit to make things work - so even though it's something very simple and fast, I think people just don't know about that option or are too lazy to do it.
My conclusion is that too few people understand online privacy at all, because of the slightly more than 5 billion internet users, less than 50% use VPN or Tor, while most of the former are not even aware that they have software that is spying on them.
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Could you share example guide or tutorial without needing much knowledge? All guide i saw always involve terminal or linux.
I'm also interested in finding out how to set up my own VPN server without using any command/terminal etc. I do realize that OpenVPN offers 2 free VPN servers with their Access Server product, and tons of websites offer downloadable OpenVPN configs that people can use freely. I can't trust the latter though.
I don't know how it can be configured in Windows (for example) since I haven't used that operating system for quite a few years. But in any case, when you ask yourself how to configure OpenVPN without interacting with a terminal, you should not be afraid or think that the necessary knowledge is very high. The terminal is easy to use and is learned relatively quickly as long as we follow the instructions on what we want to configure.
There are many guides on how to do the installation, the most basic and simplest (other parameters must be configured later) is this one: OpenVPN Terminal setup guide (https://www.ivpn.net/setup/linux-terminal/).
Installation for Windows systems should be much easier, here is more information: Community Downloads (https://openvpn.net/community-downloads//).
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Honestly, I was also surprised that so few people use Tor, which on the other hand might be bad because it's easier to identify those who use it, right?
I believe speed or stability is the main issue for that, hence why the average joe prefers to use VPNs. On the other hand, I'm surprised that my country is included in the top 10 countries that use TOR regularly. Still, the number is abysmal compared to the number of daily internet users.
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I personally don't have too many complaints about speed when it comes to Tor, but from time to time it is necessary to change the Tor circuit to make things work - so even though it's something very simple and fast, I think people just don't know about that option or are too lazy to do it.
My conclusion is that too few people understand online privacy at all, because of the slightly more than 5 billion internet users, less than 50% use VPN or Tor, while most of the former are not even aware that they have software that is spying on them.
Internet speed is almost normal when using Tor. People are becoming more aware of the use of tor and it is spreading very quickly. I think if the use of Tor continues to grow, the number of piracy will decrease as it is almost impossible to identify its users.
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Internet speed is almost normal when using Tor. People are becoming more aware of the use of tor and it is spreading very quickly. I think if the use of Tor continues to grow, the number of piracy will decrease as it is almost impossible to identify its users.
I don't know to what extent the piracy you refer to has a place in everything related to Tor. While it is true that many Tor users use it to hide their tracks after committing illegal activities, we cannot put all users in the same bag. There are also users who use it mostly due to restrictions in their countries and also users who simply want to safeguard their privacy as much as possible.
We can't accuse a knife manufacturer that their product was used to commit a crime, we can't blame Tor developers for how users use it.
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Various researches show that around 30-40% of internet users use a VPN, and we are talking about 1.5 to 2 billion people - while on the other hand, the number of Tor users is on average around 2 million people (https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html), and that is a really huge difference. It just proves that very few people value their privacy, or what's worse, they understand it in a completely wrong way.
I think 30-40% is a huge number! I thought that number would be like 3% lol
I believe most users do not use vpn for privacy, but to access blocked content.. the main use of vpn
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Privacy is something that is very important in the crypto space and it’s something you should always go after when interacting in the space. I have seen a lot of people using VPN in the past and always don’t know why they use it often, maybe just to make their location not known which i reasoned to be awkward. After getting to know more about crypto, I found it very necessary to use VPN when accessing some certain sites where your location is most vulnerable or your activity there become vulnerable to scammers or people alike. Anything that engage privacy is always welcomed and encouraged in the crypto world.
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I believe most users do not use vpn for privacy, but to access blocked content.. the main use of vpn
Yeah, that is true, but this is a type of privacy and protection from government and their restrictions.
Just including two countries China and Russia and you already have millions of people using VPN everyday to visit blocked and restricted websites.
I think number of VPN users is smaller in other countries and they don't use it all the time and every day.
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I believe most users do not use vpn for privacy, but to access blocked content.. the main use of vpn
Yeah, that is true, but this is a type of privacy and protection from government and their restrictions.
Just including two countries China and Russia and you already have millions of people using VPN everyday to visit blocked and restricted websites.
I think number of VPN users is smaller in other countries and they don't use it all the time and every day.
It think most vpn doesn't really enhance privacy. You are just being spied by someone else
Only few vpn do not keep logs, if any...
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
Using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet can enhance your privacy, but the quality of the VPN is crucial. Choose one that doesn’t keep logs to minimize risks.
Regarding VPN over Tor, it can improve anonymity but often slows down the connection. Conversely, using Tor over a VPN is generally recommended, as it maintains Tor's security while benefiting from VPN protection.
In summary, these setups can enhance your privacy, but ensure you choose reliable tools.
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Using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet can enhance your privacy, but the quality of the VPN is crucial. Choose one that doesn’t keep logs to minimize risks.
Regarding VPN over Tor, it can improve anonymity but often slows down the connection. Conversely, using Tor over a VPN is generally recommended, as it maintains Tor's security while benefiting from VPN protection.
In summary, these setups can enhance your privacy, but ensure you choose reliable tools.
The problem with the first thing you say is that all VPN companies keep user logs. And it doesn't matter that they say otherwise on their website, if they didn't save the logs they could have serious legal problems. That Tor is slow is something that I have been reading for many years in many places, but I think it is an urban legend, since personally, in all the years that I have been using Tor I have never had serious problems. It is true that sometimes connections can slow down, but it is as simple as changing the circuit to solve it.
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Various researches show that around 30-40% of internet users use a VPN, and we are talking about 1.5 to 2 billion people - while on the other hand, the number of Tor users is on average around 2 million people (https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html), and that is a really huge difference. It just proves that very few people value their privacy, or what's worse, they understand it in a completely wrong way.
I think 30-40% is a huge number! I thought that number would be like 3% lol
I believe most users do not use vpn for privacy, but to access blocked content.. the main use of vpn
In most cases, VPN is advertised as a tool to avoid restrictions that may be the cause of not being able to access some services. I think that the vast majority of people who use the internet are not interested in privacy as such at all, but that is unfortunately a consequence of the world in which we live.
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Regarding VPN over Tor, it can improve anonymity but often slows down the connection. Conversely, using Tor over a VPN is generally recommended, as it maintains Tor's security while benefiting from VPN protection.
I tested the second option and I can say that Tor over VPN has almost no difference in surfing speed compared to using Tor itself. People agree that this is an extra security in terms of protection against malicious exit nodes, and at the same time prevents the ISP from seeing that someone is using Tor. However, good luck if you try to explain to someone who uses a VPN that it would not be bad to use Tor as well.
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It think most vpn doesn't really enhance privacy. You are just being spied by someone else
True, but there are some VPN services that are doing better job than others, like Mullvad for example.
However, I am not expecting from any VPN to give me total privacy online.
If VPN or any other service would gave real privacy than governments and controllers wouldn't allow mass adoption and they would make it illegal.
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It think most vpn doesn't really enhance privacy. You are just being spied by someone else
True, but there are some VPN services that are doing better job than others, like Mullvad for example.
However, I am not expecting from any VPN to give me total privacy online.
If VPN or any other service would gave real privacy than governments and controllers wouldn't allow mass adoption and they would make it illegal.
A VPN is only good when you want to hide information from the service you are visiting. All expectations beyond that are mostly unrealistic, especially the idea of anonymity according to the government.
Regarding the OP's question, I am not sure that access to the wallet itself can reduce privacy, of course, I assume that exchanges and similar custodial centralised services do not belong to the wallets category.
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A VPN is only good when you want to hide information from the service you are visiting. All expectations beyond that are mostly unrealistic, especially the idea of anonymity according to the government.
It's doing a very nice job for many citizens in China, Russia, Brazil and other governments who try to put many restrictions on internet use.
Even the ''great firewall of china'' can be defeated with using VPN, but there is always a risk they can get arrested, fined and sent to jail for using this tools.
In that case it's probably much safer and better to use Linux Whonix OS instead of wind0ws of regular linux OS (including Tails OS).
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It's doing a very nice job for many citizens in China, Russia, Brazil and other governments who try to put many restrictions on internet use.
Even the ''great firewall of china'' can be defeated with using VPN, but there is always a risk they can get arrested, fined and sent to jail for using this tools.
In that case it's probably much safer and better to use Linux Whonix OS instead of wind0ws of regular linux OS (including Tails OS).
I have never used Whonix, but Linux Kodachi and Linux Qubes OS are also privacy focused distributions that, along with tools like OpenVPN or WireGuard (and others) help a lot for users who want to have another type of profile for whatever reason. As I said, I haven't used Windows in a while and I don't know what (external) tools it may have available, but I have never liked proprietary software precisely for privacy and security reasons.
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A VPN is only good when you want to hide information from the service you are visiting. All expectations beyond that are mostly unrealistic, especially the idea of anonymity according to the government.
It's doing a very nice job for many citizens in China, Russia, Brazil and other governments who try to put many restrictions on internet use.
Even the ''great firewall of china'' can be defeated with using VPN, but there is always a risk they can get arrested, fined and sent to jail for using this tools.
It is possible to used x.com in Brazil just by downloading Tor, no VPN needed. However, as it is very slow, the experience is terrible...
but it is safer, compared to VPN use.
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It is possible to used x.com in Brazil just by downloading Tor, no VPN needed. However, as it is very slow, the experience is terrible...
but it is safer, compared to VPN use.
I would not suggest doing that with Tor.
There is a good chance your twitter account would be banned quickly because IP addresses in Tor browser are always changing with every new restart with new identity.
For your case it is probably better to use Mullvad VPN with single dedicated IP address or at least same country should be used.
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For your case it is probably better to use Mullvad VPN with single dedicated IP address or at least same country should be used.
As far as I know, Mullvad does not offer dedicated IP[1]. However, according to my experience, I do get the same IP if I stay connected to one server for a long time with occasional disconnects. Not sure if it's part of the algorithm or just randomness at play though. CMIIW.
[1] https://mullvad.net/en/help/faq#64
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It is possible to used x.com in Brazil just by downloading Tor, no VPN needed. However, as it is very slow, the experience is terrible...
but it is safer, compared to VPN use.
I would not suggest doing that with Tor.
There is a good chance your twitter account would be banned quickly because IP addresses in Tor browser are always changing with every new restart with new identity.
For your case it is probably better to use Mullvad VPN with single dedicated IP address or at least same country should be used.
For now, I am just using x to read stuff.
I do have an account , but i just use it if I am forced to for any reason.
I don't really like that X. I don't know why, but i just prefer other social media networks.
So, Tor is fine for me by now. But that is a good warning
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Use Tor and not a VPN, and do not mix the two together (https://support.torproject.org/faq/faq-5/) unless you know exactly what you're doing. (https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN) And the Proton engineers seem to know (https://protonvpn.com/blog/tor-vpn/) (by the way I highly recommend using their VPN, but not for using your wallet unless you happen to be running the VPN over the rest of your operating system. Mullvad is also a good option. Probably superior even.)
Most VPNs keep logs. So you cannot trust that there is no paper trail.
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The only correct thing that can be concluded from everything is that we need a reliable VPN, which we will configure to start automatically if possible, and then, if necessary, start Tor. Thus, we add one (possible) level of security because the ISP does not see us using Tor, and at the same time we protect ourselves from bad Tor exit nodes.
The thing is very simple, although those who object to the speed of surfing with Tor alone would certainly not be thrilled with this combination.
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As far as I know, Mullvad does not offer dedicated IP[1]. However, according to my experience, I do get the same IP if I stay connected to one server for a long time with occasional disconnects. Not sure if it's part of the algorithm or just randomness at play though. CMIIW.
Normal IP addresses with VPN can sometimes change a little, but they are usually the same.
It won't be a problem if this change happens because country and city location will stay the same.
Static IP addresses is something different, but I don't know in Mullvad is offering them.
For now, I am just using x to read stuff.
I do have an account , but i just use it if I am forced to for any reason.
I don't really like that X. I don't know why, but i just prefer other social media networks.
So you can access X website, and BR government is not blocking access?
I don't like that X, facebook and all other social networks are not allowing you to read posts if you are not logged in.
For twitter you can partially bypass this using Nitter and extensions like LibRedirect but it is getting harder.
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So you can access X website, and BR government is not blocking access?
I don't like that X, facebook and all other social networks are not allowing you to read posts if you are not logged in.
For twitter you can partially bypass this using Nitter and extensions like LibRedirect but it is getting harder.
No.
It is only possible to access X using Tor or a VPN when you are in Brazil. It is blocked, like in China and north Korea. sad, but true...
What is even sadier is that there are many leftist which are happy about that, because Lula supports this block, as many right wing politicians were using X.
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It is only possible to access X using Tor or a VPN when you are in Brazil. It is blocked, like in China and north Korea. sad, but true...
What is even sadier is that there are many leftist which are happy about that, because Lula supports this block, as many right wing politicians were using X.
I didn't know about this. Didn't Musk unblock a lot of things when he took over Twitter?
Or is it censorship by the Brazilian government?
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I didn't know about this. Didn't Musk unblock a lot of things when he took over Twitter?
Or is it censorship by the Brazilian government?
Musk refused to block right wing senators and speakers that brazilian justice (controlled by the leftist government) demanded. Once he refused , Twitter was blocked and Starlink bank accounts seized.
You can find some information here:
https://twitter.com/alexandrefiles (created by elon musk to expose the demands)
https://www.reuters.com/technology/brazil-judge-blocks-starlink-accounts-country-amid-x-spat-source-says-2024-08-29/
And a local press
https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/republica/x-suspension-and-starlink-account-freeze-undermine-legal-certainty-and-deter-investment-in-brazil/
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What is even sadier is that there are many leftist which are happy about that, because Lula supports this block, as many right wing politicians were using X.
Brainwashing gone on a next level, and next step is full blown communism :P
I think that all elections now are a scam and I honestly don't believe people elected this Lula and all other politicians in the world.
You are not missing much on X anyway and when something is blocked people won't stop using it, same with Bitcoin and Monero.
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Brainwashing gone on a next level, and next step is full blown communism :P
I think that all elections now are a scam and I honestly don't believe people elected this Lula and all other politicians in the world.
You are not missing much on X anyway and when something is blocked people won't stop using it, same with Bitcoin and Monero.
Who wants to use , will use X blocked or not
However, I think many people stopped using. Many people don't care about using a VPN. Personally, I never used it a lot, just opened a few times per month...
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Actually vpn wraps the connection with encryption and sends the data sent through the server to the provider. It puts virtual barriers around your account information. It also stops hackers from cheating and they can't collect your wallet information. VPN provides you with adequate security while engaging in online activities with digital wallet access. It provides an additional barrier against interception of your wallet information in transit with cryptography enabled. But not all vpn will give you guaranteed service, even can't save your wallet from hackers.
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Actually vpn wraps the connection with encryption and sends the data sent through the server to the provider. It puts virtual barriers around your account information. It also stops hackers from cheating and they can't collect your wallet information. VPN provides you with adequate security while engaging in online activities with digital wallet access. It provides an additional barrier against interception of your wallet information in transit with cryptography enabled. But not all vpn will give you guaranteed service, even can't save your wallet from hackers.
But of course it needs to be clarified that the use of premium VPNs is recommended and not the use of free VPNs which are almost used by many people.
There are many VPN services available and of course you have to choose a service that is already recommended and trusted.
But I rarely use VPNs and only on certain apps.
and even the use of a VPN will not be able to save a wallet that has been hacked, it is not the fault of the VPN but the fault of the user.
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Using a VPN is much better than using a regular network or public network when browsing the internet... especially if you often use a public network, I always activate the VPN's automatic life when using a WIFI network on my device...
And for the VPN I use is a premium VPN, buying it using cryptocurrency now makes it easier... it is not recommended to use a free VPN or even a VPN that does not have a good reputation in protecting our data... because VPN also has the potential to be a threat to us, I still recommend normalizing the use of VPN because it is indeed highly recommended.
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Using a VPN is much better than using a regular network or public network when browsing the internet... especially if you often use a public network, I always activate the VPN's automatic life when using a WIFI network on my device...
i often just avoid using networks outside or public wifi’s because you never know who can access our mobile devices that way so i don’t always feel the need to use vpn but when you are entering a different region or country then it’s definitely a must and should not be forgotten
And for the VPN I use is a premium VPN, buying it using cryptocurrency now makes it easier... it is not recommended to use a free VPN or even a VPN that does not have a good reputation in protecting our data... because VPN also has the potential to be a threat to us, I still recommend normalizing the use of VPN because it is indeed highly recommended.
subscribing to an expensive vpn is a good investment because you will be able to use it for a long time and it will serve you many functions compared to cheap ones where it won’t even function well and have very limited usage
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Using a VPN is much better than using a regular network or public network when browsing the internet... especially if you often use a public network, I always activate the VPN's automatic life when using a WIFI network on my device...
i often just avoid using networks outside or public wifi’s because you never know who can access our mobile devices that way so i don’t always feel the need to use vpn but when you are entering a different region or country then it’s definitely a must and should not be forgotten
It's good habit, but there are few cases where you're forced to use public WiFi. For example, losing mobile signal since you're in basement or huge building or you run out of data usage/cap.
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Using a VPN is much better than using a regular network or public network when browsing the internet... especially if you often use a public network, I always activate the VPN's automatic life when using a WIFI network on my device...
And for the VPN I use is a premium VPN, buying it using cryptocurrency now makes it easier... it is not recommended to use a free VPN or even a VPN that does not have a good reputation in protecting our data... because VPN also has the potential to be a threat to us, I still recommend normalizing the use of VPN because it is indeed highly recommended.
I think the opposite. While it's true that TOR can be slow at times (it's always worked reasonably well for me personally), the simple fact that it's open source gives me much more confidence than any VPN. A community will always do more and better than any private company.
As for VPNs, as I think I have said on some occasion, they have a credibility close to 0, since although they always say the same thing on their websites, no company that you pay ($5? $10? $20?) a month is going to keep you your privacy 100%. Many people do not take into account that when a judge requests the logs of a certain IP, companies deliver them without any problem, since they are required by law.
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I think the opposite. While it's true that TOR can be slow at times (it's always worked reasonably well for me personally), the simple fact that it's open source gives me much more confidence than any VPN. A community will always do more and better than any private company.
As for VPNs, as I think I have said on some occasion, they have a credibility close to 0, since although they always say the same thing on their websites, no company that you pay ($5? $10? $20?) a month is going to keep you your privacy 100%. Many people do not take into account that when a judge requests the logs of a certain IP, companies deliver them without any problem, since they are required by law.
I agree that tor is way better for privacy
There is no trust involved. But the speed is terrible, and you can't use tor in your daily life 100% of the time
On the other hand, in the practical point of view some degree of trust is necessary to live in society.
Some companies care about your privacy, as this is their mission.
I would trust proton vpn for example.
If you are seeking price, you shouldn't buy the cheapest vpn, that's for sure.
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I agree that tor is way better for privacy
There is no trust involved. But the speed is terrible, and you can't use tor in your daily life 100% of the time
On the other hand, in the practical point of view some degree of trust is necessary to live in society.
Some companies care about your privacy, as this is their mission.
I would trust proton vpn for example.
If you are seeking price, you shouldn't buy the cheapest vpn, that's for sure.
Well, personally I use TOR 100% of the day, and although it is not as fast as a direct connection I have no complaints regarding speed as I have said, at most and on rare occasions the only thing I do is change the output circuit for certain websites, but that's not a problem for me, I don't know how it will be for other users.
Using the words “trust” and “society” in the same sentence can lead to a very, very long conversation. It depends on what each person understands by trust and society.
I know that Proton VPN has a very good reputation, and I have nothing against that company, nor logically against its users. The only thing I say in my posts is that open source personally inspires me more confidence, by its very nature, than any private company.
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Well, personally I use TOR 100% of the day, and although it is not as fast as a direct connection I have no complaints regarding speed as I have said, at most and on rare occasions the only thing I do is change the output circuit for certain websites, but that's not a problem for me, I don't know how it will be for other users.
You certainly doesn't use tor to watch Netflix.
But you could use vpn for it. That is an example of some advantage of VPN over tor.
But i use , but i don't use vpn (only is rarely ocasions)
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You certainly doesn't use tor to watch Netflix.
But you could use vpn for it. That is an example of some advantage of VPN over tor.
But i use , but i don't use vpn (only is rarely ocasions)
lol no, I don't use Tor to watch Netflix. I agree that it is a practical use case, but please note that I speak from my experience, not the personal experience of every VPN or Tor user. Each user uses the service that best suits their needs, that's the difference.
It is possible to use VPN for some things and Tor for others without any problem.
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But you could use vpn for it. That is an example of some advantage of VPN over tor.
And you could also get banned for doing that, they are going to detect if you are using VPN, but I wouldn't waste a single cent/sat on netflix.
Good VPN can surely be used for crypto related stuff and wallets, but it's easy to make mistake with IP addresses and transactions doing that.
Just be aware that with VPN all of your web history is stored somewhere and it can always get hacked and leaked.
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But you could use vpn for it. That is an example of some advantage of VPN over tor.
And you could also get banned for doing that, they are going to detect if you are using VPN, but I wouldn't waste a single cent/sat on netflix.
Good VPN can surely be used for crypto related stuff and wallets, but it's easy to make mistake with IP addresses and transactions doing that.
Just be aware that with VPN all of your web history is stored somewhere and it can always get hacked and leaked.
If you don't use netflix, which service do you use to watch movies and tv shows?
I don't think piracy is the way to go for long time, because one day you will face malware when illegally downloading content...
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But you could use vpn for it. That is an example of some advantage of VPN over tor.
And you could also get banned for doing that, they are going to detect if you are using VPN, but I wouldn't waste a single cent/sat on netflix.
Good VPN can surely be used for crypto related stuff and wallets, but it's easy to make mistake with IP addresses and transactions doing that.
Just be aware that with VPN all of your web history is stored somewhere and it can always get hacked and leaked.
If you don't use netflix, which service do you use to watch movies and tv shows?
I don't think piracy is the way to go for long time, because one day you will face malware when illegally downloading content...
Maybe he doesn't use VPN for entertainment purposes like that, maybe he doesn't use anything to layer internet privacy for that purpose... what I know is we can access Netflix without having to use VPN, and for those who think Netflix is not a serious threat to our data security, why not? For those who think Netflix can be a threat, VPN is their best choice...
Even between Netflix and our personal wallet, they have different purposes in their use, between entertainment and finance must be different, so this is what makes us all wary of asset hacking, rather than hacking our Netflix account....
Likewise, I tend to use VPN to access services that I consider important that involve private data...And do you think HMA (Hidemyass) is a safe VPN? I have been using the premium version for the past few years.
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And do you think HMA (Hidemyass) is a safe VPN? I have been using the premium version for the past few years.
Based on reviews that I've read, HMA is not a good VPN for privacy. Their no-logging policy is being questioned now and then. I'd switch to Mullvad or look for other alternatives asap if privacy is my main concern. You can look for them at aggregator sites like kycnot.me. I can't for every listed service so do your own research before you try them. CMIIW.
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And do you think HMA (Hidemyass) is a safe VPN? I have been using the premium version for the past few years.
Based on reviews that I've read, HMA is not a good VPN for privacy. Their no-logging policy is being questioned now and then. I'd switch to Mullvad or look for other alternatives asap if privacy is my main concern. You can look for them at aggregator sites like kycnot.me. I can't for every listed service so do your own research before you try them. CMIIW.
I would use vpn recommened by privacytools.io, which is a good website.
Using a reliable vpn is essential, as a bad vpn will just spy you and sell your data
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If you don't use netflix, which service do you use to watch movies and tv shows?
I don't think piracy is the way to go for long time, because one day you will face malware when illegally downloading content...
That is totally offtopic, but I am not downloading anything illegal, I am not afraid of malware on Linux OS, and I surely won't pay to watch crap woke movies and tv shows recorded this days.
Is not like you can't live without all that junk and wasted time in your life.
Now let's get back on topic VPN + Crypto wallets.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
I don't think there is much benefit to using a VPN to access a decentralized wallet when you use it. However, when you use a centralized platform, you can use a VPN so that you are not easily tracked. Because when it comes to crypto it is always better to keep yourself hidden. In case of decentralized platform or wallet your privacy is always protected so additional privacy is not much needed but you can do it if you want and there is no problem.
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I am doing some testing of NYM vpn, that is decentralized and they offered 30 days of free usage.
It is simple to use and you don't need to send any personal details, but it lacks additional features and custom configuration.
Not sure if free version is still available, but it's worth checking that on their wesbite nym.com
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It's good habit, but there are few cases where you're forced to use public WiFi. For example, losing mobile signal since you're in basement or huge building or you run out of data usage/cap.
Yes, those situations do happen with most of us and during such times we are forced to use public Wifi and for such times it's always recommended to use a good and high privacy VPN if you want to connect to online services.
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It is possible to used x.com in Brazil just by downloading Tor, no VPN needed. However, as it is very slow, the experience is terrible...
but it is safer, compared to VPN use.
I would not suggest doing that with Tor.
There is a good chance your twitter account would be banned quickly because IP addresses in Tor browser are always changing with every new restart with new identity.
For your case it is probably better to use Mullvad VPN with single dedicated IP address or at least same country should be used.
If someone uses a VPN with a single dedicated IP address or consistent location, will they have a problem with the casinos?
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If someone uses a VPN with a single dedicated IP address or consistent location, will they have a problem with the casinos?
I don't think so
You just need to be aware that some casinos are region blocked. If you are using casinos in a region which is blocked, you are using at your own risk. Be aware that you may just lose any funds you deposit there, since you are abusing their terms of services.
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If someone uses a VPN with a single dedicated IP address or consistent location, will they have a problem with the casinos?
It all depends what crypto casino are you using.
I heard some casinos are accepting vpn, others are tolerant, and there are some that consider using vpn as abuse of services and trying to cheat.
If you want to be sure I would suggest first carefully reading the terms, and asking specific casino support for clarification about vpn.
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If someone uses a VPN with a single dedicated IP address or consistent location, will they have a problem with the casinos?
I don't think so
You just need to be aware that some casinos are region blocked. If you are using casinos in a region which is blocked, you are using at your own risk. Be aware that you may just lose any funds you deposit there, since you are abusing their terms of services.
This is true and I understand such a risk. Since the casino must have stated it in their ToS, they could turn bad players and confiscate your funds when you deposit and make a big win.
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This is true and I understand such a risk. Since the casino must have stated it in their ToS, they could turn bad players and confiscate your funds when you deposit and make a big win.
Even big winnings the casino can take issue with to the point of asking you for paperwork to withdraw them let alone using a VPN so it's even more risky.
The point is that in casinos avoid using a VPN even if they say “VPN friendly” it's just a front so make sure it's without a VPN.
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Usually many users bypass geo-blocks on casinos to the point where it becomes unfeasible for the casino to monitor connection logs, making it an "unnecessary" effort to apply any kind of restriction on the user's account.
Even so, I don't recommend using VPNs on casinos to avoid unnecessary risks.
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This is true and I understand such a risk. Since the casino must have stated it in their ToS, they could turn bad players and confiscate your funds when you deposit and make a big win.
Even big winnings the casino can take issue with to the point of asking you for paperwork to withdraw them let alone using a VPN so it's even more risky.
The point is that in casinos avoid using a VPN even if they say “VPN friendly” it's just a front so make sure it's without a VPN.
The biggest problem will be being consistent with a particular ip and location. I have ran into such issues before and the best solution to this is to get a casino that allows your location and have peace of mind. I was intentional about the question because it dealt with me in the past.
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This is true and I understand such a risk. Since the casino must have stated it in their ToS, they could turn bad players and confiscate your funds when you deposit and make a big win.
Even big winnings the casino can take issue with to the point of asking you for paperwork to withdraw them let alone using a VPN so it's even more risky.
The point is that in casinos avoid using a VPN even if they say “VPN friendly” it's just a front so make sure it's without a VPN.
The biggest problem will be being consistent with a particular ip and location. I have ran into such issues before and the best solution to this is to get a casino that allows your location and have peace of mind. I was intentional about the question because it dealt with me in the past.
I don't have a problem with a specific IP location as long as it's within your country, I even gamble in some places when traveling that's no problem.
Like using my shop wifi, using home wifi, or using cellular data of course it's a different IP but not getting any problems.
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If anyone is using NYM vpn I recommend switching to Anonymous mixnet mode.
This is safer option for wallets made especially for payments, transactions, emails, messaging, etc.
You can pay with crypto coins Bitcoin, BTC-LN, Monero, and there is 50% discount when paying with NYM token.
1 Nym token is currently around $0.06:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/nym
(https://i.ibb.co/MkzQJfzN/img8e0e78749af8104a493c2ac021527ec9.jpg)
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If anyone is using NYM vpn I recommend switching to Anonymous mixnet mode.
This is safer option for wallets made especially for payments, transactions, emails, messaging, etc.
You can pay with crypto coins Bitcoin, BTC-LN, Monero, and there is 50% discount when paying with NYM token.
1 Nym token is currently around $0.06:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/nym
(https://i.ibb.co/MkzQJfzN/img8e0e78749af8104a493c2ac021527ec9.jpg)
Which vpn do you use?
I am having problems to acess some casinos, which are getting blocked in Brazil. But the proton vpn only allows Japan and USA for free, which are also region blocked in some casinos
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This is true and I understand such a risk. Since the casino must have stated it in their ToS, they could turn bad players and confiscate your funds when you deposit and make a big win.
Even big winnings the casino can take issue with to the point of asking you for paperwork to withdraw them let alone using a VPN so it's even more risky.
The point is that in casinos avoid using a VPN even if they say “VPN friendly” it's just a front so make sure it's without a VPN.
The biggest problem will be being consistent with a particular ip and location. I have ran into such issues before and the best solution to this is to get a casino that allows your location and have peace of mind. I was intentional about the question because it dealt with me in the past.
I don't have a problem with a specific IP location as long as it's within your country, I even gamble in some places when traveling that's no problem.
Like using my shop wifi, using home wifi, or using cellular data of course it's a different IP but not getting any problems.
Yea, you will definitely not have a problem using your cellular data, home and office Wi-Fi because the ip addresses are in near proximity or are treated as shared ip. Also there is not reason or sign of suspicion in your account.
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Which vpn do you use?
I said I am testing NYM vpn because I generated code (24 words) and applied for 30 days free period.
No sign up, no personal details, and it works very well with basic settings and good speed.
I am having problems to acess some casinos, which are getting blocked in Brazil. But the proton vpn only allows Japan and USA for free, which are also region blocked in some casinos
NYM have all countries available for now, but I had some issues making it work in Fedora Linux using flatpak and app image.
I think it's much easier for Debian/Ubuntu and Archlinux:
https://nym.com/download/linux#install-on-linux
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I am having problems to acess some casinos, which are getting blocked in Brazil. But the proton vpn only allows Japan and USA for free, which are also region blocked in some casinos
NYM have all countries available for now, but I had some issues making it work in Fedora Linux using flatpak and app image.
I think it's much easier for Debian/Ubuntu and Archlinux:
https://nym.com/download/linux#install-on-linux
Thanks. I will try in windows. Let's see if I can access bc.game and other casinos.
I just use Linux as a wsl for coding and work, so I don't install these kind of apps there.
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Thanks. I will try in windows. Let's see if I can access bc.game and other casinos.
I just use Linux as a wsl for coding and work, so I don't install these kind of apps there.
If you don't want to purchase before trying maybe you can try this 24-word recovery phrase I posted bellow, and let me know if that worked for you.
But better be quick because this was shared publicly, other people are using it on their devices, and there are limited number of devices allowed.
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Thanks. I will try in windows. Let's see if I can access bc.game and other casinos.
I just use Linux as a wsl for coding and work, so I don't install these kind of apps there.
If you don't want to purchase before trying maybe you can try this 24-word recovery phrase I posted bellow, and let me know if that worked for you.
But better be quick because this was shared publicly, other people are using it on their devices, and there are limited number of devices allowed.
THanks. The seed worked.
But the VPN doesnt work. It just keeps 'connecting' forever lol
I will try later on! Thanks!
Which servers do you think are better?
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THanks. The seed worked.
But the VPN doesnt work. It just keeps 'connecting' forever lol
I will try later on! Thanks!
Which servers do you think are better?
Connecting forever must be some settings related to your network and operating system,
or you had other VPN installed previously that created some issue if both are still installed.
You can try the same words with your android device app, or with some other computer.
VPN servers depends on your location, but I am sure it should work fine in Brazil, they even have active NYM community there.
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Based on OP, I have not really seen a wallet with regional restrictions as all the Crypto wallets are free for all to use so what is the point using a VPN to connect or access ones wallet when it is free of charge.
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Thanks. I will try in windows. Let's see if I can access bc.game and other casinos.
I just use Linux as a wsl for coding and work, so I don't install these kind of apps there.
If you don't want to purchase before trying maybe you can try this 24-word recovery phrase I posted bellow, and let me know if that worked for you.
But better be quick because this was shared publicly, other people are using it on their devices, and there are limited number of devices allowed.
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Quick question, what makes this VPN different from others? ???
Personally, I am/was a Surfshark VPN user until my subscription ended and it worked pretty well for me. Btw, I tried to connect using that 24 words recovery phrase of yours but it looks like people already logged in before me.
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Thanks. I will try in windows. Let's see if I can access bc.game and other casinos.
I just use Linux as a wsl for coding and work, so I don't install these kind of apps there.
If you don't want to purchase before trying maybe you can try this 24-word recovery phrase I posted bellow, and let me know if that worked for you.
But better be quick because this was shared publicly, other people are using it on their devices, and there are limited number of devices allowed.
slender sadness bullet rocket mystery use almost beef then wagon unfold endless thunder can mix shock combine glove duck wash sheriff steel pipe favorite
Quick question, what makes this VPN different from others? ???
Personally, I am/was a Surfshark VPN user until my subscription ended and it worked pretty well for me. Btw, I tried to connect using that 24 words recovery phrase of yours but it looks like people already logged in before me.
Usually you pay more for a faster and more privacy vpn.
As far as i tried, this vpn is very slow.... I also don't know how they handle your privacy
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Usually you pay more for a faster and more privacy vpn.
As far as i tried, this vpn is very slow.... I also don't know how they handle your privacy
But is there any way to ensure that? I mean that, to know whether they are selling my data in the background? I have tried almost 20+ paid VPN's and all of them were advertised as that they were the safest, fastest bla bla bla...
Currently, I am out of subscription so using TOR only access certain sites. But the connection on tor net is so slow that sometimes it takes forever to connect or even browser a page. Btw do you know any reliable VPN that can be used for day to day activities?
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But is there any way to ensure that? I mean that, to know whether they are selling my data in the background? I have tried almost 20+ paid VPN's and all of them were advertised as that they were the safest, fastest bla bla bla...
Currently, I am out of subscription so using TOR only access certain sites. But the connection on tor net is so slow that sometimes it takes forever to connect or even browser a page. Btw do you know any reliable VPN that can be used for day to day activities?
I use NordVPN which has been on the market for a long time, it claims to be a fast VPN, however any VPN you use will affect your internet speed a little due to the data encryption process of your traffic.
Based on OP, I have not really seen a wallet with regional restrictions as all the Crypto wallets are free for all to use so what is the point using a VPN to connect or access ones wallet when it is free of charge.
When I created this topic, it was to find out how effective VPNs are in providing more privacy in bitcoin wallets that don't have the ability to connect via Tor.
When we connect to electrum, for example, by default, if you don't configure the server, it will connect to one of the servers on the list to search for balances in your wallet addresses, however, it is possible to know your IP, depending on the server connected, your addresses, transactions may be related to your IP and to avoid this, you can create your own electrum server, connect via Tor or VPN.
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Based on OP, I have not really seen a wallet with regional restrictions as all the Crypto wallets are free for all to use so what is the point using a VPN to connect or access ones wallet when it is free of charge.
The essence of VPN usage has never been to avoid or cut cost, VPN has always been associated with privacy and if you read Op very well you will understand that this topic was created on the privacy note and not on the cost note. VPNs are no longer what it used to be before now, the developers are more money minded than privacy minded.
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Based on OP, I have not really seen a wallet with regional restrictions as all the Crypto wallets are free for all to use so what is the point using a VPN to connect or access ones wallet when it is free of charge.
The essence of VPN usage has never been to avoid or cut cost, VPN has always been associated with privacy and if you read Op very well you will understand that this topic was created on the privacy note and not on the cost note. VPNs are no longer what it used to be before now, the developers are more money minded than privacy minded.
If one only cares about privacy then it is definitely better to use VPN. Because VPN is a virtual private network that maintains a user's privacy. Because by using VPN a user can keep his location hidden. But when someone uses a decentralized wallet he only needs to use a security phrase or private key to access the wallet in which case his location is still hidden so I think using a VPN is not very important in that case. However, when using a centralized wallet or platform, using a VPN is very important to protect privacy.
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Quick question, what makes this VPN different from others? ???
NYM is decentralized and much better for privacy compared to surfshark and other mainstream VPN services.
Because of this they can't even log your data, unlike other centralized VPN services.
You also don't send them any personal information, and they accept crypto payments.
As far as i tried, this vpn is very slow.... I also don't know how they handle your privacy
It works very fast for me, that depends on your location and selected servers.
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Quick question, what makes this VPN different from others? ???
NYM is decentralized and much better for privacy compared to surfshark and other mainstream VPN services.
Because of this they can't even log your data, unlike other centralized VPN services.
You also don't send them any personal information, and they accept crypto payments.
Is there any extra slot left that you can spare for a quick try? ::) Among all the VPN's (20+) I have used so far I have never tried a decentralized VPN before! Even better, I never realized such things existed..facepalm! I'm surprised to know that I have never heard of it! I would probably buy the subscription if it works without any speed issue!
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Is there any extra slot left that you can spare for a quick try? ::) Among all the VPN's (20+) I have used so far I have never tried a decentralized VPN before! Even better, I never realized such things existed..facepalm! I'm surprised to know that I have never heard of it! I would probably buy the subscription if it works without any speed issue!
You can try using the words I publicly posted before in forum, but there is a good chance someone else filled the empty spots.
It's not that expensive if you want to try NYM for one month, especially if you pay with Bitcoin, LN-BTC, Monero, NYM token, than you are going to have 50% discount.
In case you don't like it you can also ask for a refund.
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Is there any extra slot left that you can spare for a quick try? ::) Among all the VPN's (20+) I have used so far I have never tried a decentralized VPN before! Even better, I never realized such things existed..facepalm! I'm surprised to know that I have never heard of it! I would probably buy the subscription if it works without any speed issue!
You can try using the words I publicly posted before in forum, but there is a good chance someone else filled the empty spots.
It's not that expensive if you want to try NYM for one month, especially if you pay with Bitcoin, LN-BTC, Monero, NYM token, than you are going to have 50% discount.
In case you don't like it you can also ask for a refund.
I did tried the words your provided but unfortunately the max device limit already exceeded.
Yeah, I just took a look at their subscription plan and man that's very cheap. First I got a 60% discount and another 50% on crypto payment, the subtotal was only $65 for 24 months (including tax).
I've decided to buy it and give it a go! :D
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I did tried the words your provided but unfortunately the max device limit already exceeded.
Sorry, but that is what you get when someone posts keys in public ;)
Yeah, I just took a look at their subscription plan and man that's very cheap. First I got a 60% discount and another 50% on crypto payment, the subtotal was only $65 for 24 months (including tax).
I've decided to buy it and give it a go! :D
Not sure what other VPN services are charging these days, except Mullvad VPN taht is always €5 per month.
I think $65 is not a bad price for two years usage, and if you don't like it for some reason you can always ask for a refund.
If you can let us know how everything is working for you with NYM vpn regarding speed, available locations and user experience.
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Not sure what other VPN services are charging these days, except Mullvad VPN taht is always €5 per month.
I think $65 is not a bad price for two years usage, and if you don't like it for some reason you can always ask for a refund.
If you can let us know how everything is working for you with NYM vpn regarding speed, available locations and user experience.
The overall user experience was good without any doubt. I used the VPN with a mobile data connection and with my friend's wifi and didn’t encounter any connection issues, delays, or slow speeds.
However, I had the opposite experience with my own wifii. It's probably because I use a shit internet service provider (only one available - since it's a rural area) with only a 8 Mbps line. I experienced speed issues, my connection was already slow, and after connecting, it became even slower, especially during the evening time...
It gave decent performance with others line but not with mine, sad..
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The overall user experience was good without any doubt. I used the VPN with a mobile data connection and with my friend's wifi and didn’t encounter any connection issues, delays, or slow speeds.
Did you try using more secure connection with your mobile device that is suggested for transactions and emails?
For some reason this was not working for me when I tested it, but regular connection worked fine, I think it was wireguard.
However, I had the opposite experience with my own wifii. It's probably because I use a shit internet service provider (only one available - since it's a rural area) with only a 8 Mbps line. I experienced speed issues, my connection was already slow, and after connecting, it became even slower, especially during the evening time...
Yeah that is slow for today standards, but I always prefer cable connection whenever possible.
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Not sure what other VPN services are charging these days, except Mullvad VPN taht is always €5 per month.
I think $65 is not a bad price for two years usage, and if you don't like it for some reason you can always ask for a refund.
If you can let us know how everything is working for you with NYM vpn regarding speed, available locations and user experience.
The overall user experience was good without any doubt. I used the VPN with a mobile data connection and with my friend's wifi and didn’t encounter any connection issues, delays, or slow speeds.
However, I had the opposite experience with my own wifii. It's probably because I use a shit internet service provider (only one available - since it's a rural area) with only a 8 Mbps line. I experienced speed issues, my connection was already slow, and after connecting, it became even slower, especially during the evening time...
It gave decent performance with others line but not with mine, sad..
Overall i am agree with you. But i have some confusion about unverified VPN and Free VPN. I saw many people complained about free vpn. But they also said paid VPN is secured. So my thinking also same.
I also think there has many vpn in play store. Among of them some Free VPN is unsecured and risky. But most of them are secured even Paid VPN are very secured and we can use that without any doubt.
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I also think there has many vpn in play store. Among of them some Free VPN is unsecured and risky. But most of them are secured even Paid VPN are very secured and we can use that without any doubt.
No you should never use them without any doubt, but you can do anything you want with your money.
Just because you are paying for something that is not making that good, and most VPN services are just used for spying and collecting information from customers.
Mullvad and NYM are only two VPN services I would recommend, if they are paid with crypto payments.
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Is using a VPN as a proxy in a wallet (that has the configuration for this) a good idea to get more privacy?
What about using a VPN over Tor or vice versa? Where you connect to a VPN and configure the wallet to connect to nodes via the Tor network. Has anyone tried this?
I have not really tried this myself, but with the little time I have used VPN, I am sure the VPN covers you off tracking, and if in a public network, like that of a company which only the workers make use of, it keeps you invincible. When it comes to the use of wallet configuration, it is a critical thing to be mindful how it goes around and the network that is used to carry out this process.
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I have not really tried this myself, but with the little time I have used VPN, I am sure the VPN covers you off tracking, and if in a public network, like that of a company which only the workers make use of, it keeps you invincible. When it comes to the use of wallet configuration, it is a critical thing to be mindful how it goes around and the network that is used to carry out this process.
I don't trust VPNs that much and I don't believe everything they promise (even though I have an active 2-year plan with NordVPN), but when it comes to connecting to a public network without any type of active protection, a VPN (as long as it's paid) is better than nothing, especially for accessing banking services, wallets and even accounts like this forum.