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Title: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: TomPluz on September 16, 2024, 05:44:40 AM


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Many years ago, I already had this feeling that the biggest reason why we are seeing a lot of volatility and in addition scams and frauds in the cryptocurrency market is all because people are seeing that in this industry we are just making money out of thin air...hence there is really no big value to what we are doing here and indeed we are witnesses to many crypto platforms that come and go as if gone with the wind for good.

And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?





 
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 16, 2024, 08:18:21 AM

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
it’s no secret crypto gives off money and profit but i don’t see it as money created out of thin air we invest our money, time, and effort into crypto which gives us results it is almost the same as other assets where you invest and you see its value grow over time

anyway due to crypto’s nature i believe aside from profit it also will change the world in terms of technology and is already doing it now actually step by step so i see no ‘end’ in crypto just growth
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: libert19 on September 16, 2024, 11:29:54 AM
I don't think cryptos value is out of thin air, it's community that gives anything value, and community is very real, and you can't fake community's trust, you can buy shillers but they can only go far.

Yes, crypto is highly speculative sector, but nonetheless it's people's faith in particular cryptos that drives the value.

Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Tribalchief on September 16, 2024, 04:04:56 PM
I don't think cryptos value is out of thin air, it's community that gives anything value, and community is very real, and you can't fake community's trust, you can buy shillers but they can only go far.

Yes, crypto is highly speculative sector, but nonetheless it's people's faith in particular cryptos that drives the value.

Exactly, that's what i wanted to say. Crypto don't just gain it's value from thin air. It values comes from the agreement between every individual in making it a general language/acceptable medium of exchange. I think Andreas Antonopoulos wrote about how why Bitcoin has it's value in his book titled: The Internet of money(vol 1), which I think same reason also applicable to other coins.

This is why new crypto projects that gets so many attentions and hype sometimes end up doing well, because all focus are channelled to it. Unlike a project, that didn't receive too many community attention and hype. So, I think the community actually create the value, and nothing else.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: MrSpasybo on September 16, 2024, 05:19:35 PM
Many years ago, I already had this feeling that the biggest reason why we are seeing a lot of volatility and in addition scams and frauds in the cryptocurrency market is all because people are seeing that in this industry we are just making money out of thin air...hence there is really no big value to what we are doing here and indeed we are witnesses to many crypto platforms that come and go as if gone with the wind for good.

And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
Well, I'm sorry to say but most tokens in the market today derive their value from speculation, or in other words, these projects are creating no real value or they are overvalued compared to their actual capabilities. Besides BTC, which is widely accepted and has the potential to become a reserve asset for businesses and governments, many tokens don't actually have any value for users beyond the purpose of speculation to make a profit.

Anyway, the crypto market is still in the wild west and everything is in the game of pump and dump by whales. I'm not saying all tokens are meaningless because BTC is truly valuable and many blockchains have great potential in the future, but I also can't deny that the thousands of memecoins in existence are just worthless nonsense for the world.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Themepen on September 16, 2024, 06:08:13 PM
I think cryptocurrency market is unstable and has many scams because people think they can make money easily. This makes people focus on quick profits instead of long term value. Return of memecoins has made this worse. Investors want to make a lot of money fast instead of steady growth. This has turned market into gamble, where luck and popularity matter more than real value.

I hope the industry will grow up and focus on real value but I am worried people will keep trying to get rich quick. The idea of finding pot of gold might be an illusion. We need to separate hype from reality. Real value in cryptocurrency will come from useful applications.. new ideas and helping society. Until then market will be unstable and driven by speculation.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Findingnemo on September 16, 2024, 07:34:10 PM
Value as price created in terms of market demand.

Value as utility created based on the applications.

So it's not just like the value created for no reason means it's not created out of thin air, yes it's highly speculative and volatile market but it doesn't interpret that it has no real value on the other hand the fiat we are using has no real value purely working based on trust based system.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 16, 2024, 10:51:31 PM
Its possible, making value out of thin air with cryptocurrency, but only those who knows how to go about it will also enjoy on what it gives, though nothing comes as easy as that, but we keep on striving and trying our best till we achieve the best in cryptocurrency, we can make value with crypto by what we do, how we understand it and the insight we have about the networks in it.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 01, 2024, 06:20:39 PM
Its possible, making value out of thin air with cryptocurrency, but only those who knows how to go about it will also enjoy on what it gives, though nothing comes as easy as that, but we keep on striving and trying our best till we achieve the best in cryptocurrency, we can make value with crypto by what we do, how we understand it and the insight we have about the networks in it.
We've witnessed the creation of NOT, HMSTR, and DOGS within the Ton ecosystem, as well as the thousands of memecoins on Solana and Tron that have ignited the market with their price surges. These tokens, essentially minted out of thin air, have nevertheless captured significant investor attention and capital flows. While their liquidity may not match that of BTC or ETH, they possess a market price solely driven by speculative demand.

This phenomenon is unsurprising. A majority of tokens in the market are primarily valued based on investor faith in their future prospects. Their intrinsic value is often minimal or significantly below their market price. This reality, while not ideal, is widely accepted by many investors who are primarily focused on generating profits rather than eradicating memecoins ^^
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on October 01, 2024, 10:18:45 PM
Its possible, making value out of thin air with cryptocurrency, but only those who knows how to go about it will also enjoy on what it gives, though nothing comes as easy as that, but we keep on striving and trying our best till we achieve the best in cryptocurrency, we can make value with crypto by what we do, how we understand it and the insight we have about the networks in it.
We've witnessed the creation of NOT, HMSTR, and DOGS within the Ton ecosystem, as well as the thousands of memecoins on Solana and Tron that have ignited the market with their price surges. These tokens, essentially minted out of thin air, have nevertheless captured significant investor attention and capital flows. While their liquidity may not match that of BTC or ETH, they possess a market price solely driven by speculative demand.

This phenomenon is unsurprising. A majority of tokens in the market are primarily valued based on investor faith in their future prospects. Their intrinsic value is often minimal or significantly below their market price. This reality, while not ideal, is widely accepted by many investors who are primarily focused on generating profits rather than eradicating memecoins ^^

Lets keep on with the expectation that many of the crypto projects will be as productive as the once that have once existed before them, but we also have our own role to play in making the right decision over which of them to use, we need time to make the right selection, choose the right part and make the effective decision that could be a productive one on us in other to see them rewarding as we have expected.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Faisal2202 on October 03, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
Many years ago, I already had this feeling that the biggest reason why we are seeing a lot of volatility and in addition scams and frauds in the cryptocurrency market is all because people are seeing that in this industry we are just making money out of thin air...hence there is really no big value to what we are doing here and indeed we are witnesses to many crypto platforms that come and go as if gone with the wind for good.

And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
You are right many people really don't understand at first how the crypto market came into place and they think someone is controlling it and putting money in it and thus that money is being traded, etc. Although it's partially true that not one person is adding liquidity but millions of people are adding. The scams and hacks are the result of bad actors who want to make quick and more money, they don't care about the way they are following they just care about money, which is so evil.

Therefore we all should learn the moral lesson that stealing money from others can't give them peace of mind.

In the end, the market is huge, and we will see a lot of things although right now due to ETFs and government entrance in this field, the chances for getting something at the end of the rainbow has been increased.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: albon on October 13, 2024, 04:12:17 PM
I saw the boom in crypto in 2017 and there were very few scam projects. In fact, there needs to be a commitment to punish those who do scams by law, then the number of scam projects will decrease. But that's a different story because crypto is still banned in many countries. Meme coin on the other hand it can make you rich or poor. It is also possible that you have not made any profit after holding a lot of meme coin.
Moreover, there are reasons why some crypto coins disappear because these instances are rare and unique to that particular coin. There are plenty of bright ideas in the crypto world, but not every blockchain innovation will find its way to mainstream use. So if you are planning to invest in cryptocurrency, proceed with a healthy dose of caution.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Sim_card on October 13, 2024, 06:04:04 PM
Many years ago, I already had this feeling that the biggest reason why we are seeing a lot of volatility and in addition scams and frauds in the cryptocurrency market is all because people are seeing that in this industry we are just making money out of thin air...hence there is really no big value to what we are doing here and indeed we are witnesses to many crypto platforms that come and go as if gone with the wind for good.

And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
You cannot make money in crypto if you don't invest fiat into it and for this reason you are not making value out of thin air, but you only allow your money to work for you just like normal traditional investment. Those that gets profits from airdrops took their time and resources to work for the project. If you buy bitcoin, you need to hodli for many years for you to have a good profit, and if you are into altcoins, they is a big risk because it is similar to gambling due to pump and dump. The volatile nature of crypto makes it very risky to deal with and a lot of people have run at big loss without making any profit.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: PrivateKayla on October 14, 2024, 05:38:26 AM
It's usually critics of crypto who would say this, mainly because crypto doesn't operate traditionally. Crypto isn't tied to assets like gold and is decentralized. Its value comes from use cases or utility, market demand, user consensus, and potential for innovation and adoption.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Stompix on October 14, 2024, 09:58:32 AM
it’s no secret crypto gives off money and profit but i don’t see it as money created out of thin air we invest our money, time, and effort into crypto which gives us results it is almost the same as other assets where you invest and you see its value grow over time

It's definitely not like other assets!
First is the virtual thing, you have nothing tangible, and your crypto assets can evaporate into thin air along with their value just like the value was created, if nobody wants to buy your coins then their value is zero! With a house you still have the house even if nobody wants it, with precious metals, you still have the metals, cryptos are more like a version of a real estate on Minecraft!

Exactly, that's what i wanted to say. Crypto don't just gain it's value from thin air. It values comes from the agreement between every individual in making it a general language/acceptable medium of exchange.

That's the definition of thin air! ;)
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on October 14, 2024, 09:32:58 PM
The way some were making value indeed out of thin air in crypto and succeeded in it, same also is being applicable for those losing it on the same vein out of carelessness, crypto is what comes in with opportunities in different forms, some are seeing it and making use of it, while some were at the cause of going after it losing it and having nothing to present over it, that is why we must always be informed.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Z-tight on October 14, 2024, 11:38:03 PM
Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
People who see crypto as a get rich quick scheme often make mistakes, they are very vulnerable to scams such as scam projects, money doubling schemes, deepfake videos, etc. i don't know about other coins, but i know what gives BTC its value, it has utility and solves a problem and so its value is not just made out of thin air.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: bitmover on October 15, 2024, 10:17:03 PM


Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?

I think most altcoin marked is just that. Basically ponzi schemes.

There are some very few projects which may have some value after all, but other than those we are really just seeing pump and dump coins.

Just observe which coins are top 100 now and which were top 100 3 years ago. Basically all coins changed, except for a few ... but most of them changed
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: taufik123 on October 15, 2024, 11:26:18 PM
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Just observe which coins are top 100 now and which were top 100 3 years ago. Basically all coins changed, except for a few ... but most of them changed
Yes, everything has undergone quite drastic changes and for coins that have remained in their position and even tend to rise, it is the top altcoin that needs to be used as an investment.

But some also disappeared that were once at the top of the rankings are now undeveloped.

Now many memecoins are in the top 100 and are starting to become hype memecoins.
I have some very good performing memecoins and of course there will still be risks.

Some memecoins also have utility, so they are not just entertainment tokens or joke coins.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Tribalchief on October 16, 2024, 12:43:34 AM
I think most altcoin marked is just that. Basically ponzi schemes.

There are some very few projects which may have some value after all, but other than those we are really just seeing pump and dump coins.

Just observe which coins are top 100 now and which were top 100 3 years ago. Basically all coins changed, except for a few ... but most of them changed

What do we really expect when the people coming into crypto in recent times are only here to make short profits. Some developers and investors these days don't really have plans to create a project that will compete with others and grow over time.

With the availability of thousands of altcoins in the market, creating new project, and taking the necessary steps to ensure that the project becomes a success, comes with lots of effort, which some of us witnessed more with other projects that have become success today. But most project that we've had in recent times are only promoted for selfish reasons and short term benefit purposes.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 16, 2024, 04:08:51 AM
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And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
Unfortunately, that's the case with most of the altcoins hence, most of them are being labeled as scams.

It's not only for meme coins, but anything that's hyped, or I should say with any altcoin, investors are only thinking of the profit that they can get instead of the value or the benefit of the project to them. I agree with you that investing into meme coins especially with those lower market cap ones are becoming more like a gambling already, and this is the reason why I mainly focus on investing into established projects like those that are on the top already, and of course Bitcoin.

I felt the same OP, but if there's anything that I can do about it, I guess it's to prevent myself from doing that thing or else, the chances of me losing my money would be high.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on October 16, 2024, 04:06:08 PM
I think all investors are here to make money. They believe that making money in crypto is easier than making a business in the outside world. When we talk cryptocurrency, it shows up in our mind that it is very volatile. Volatility of a coins has principles, and each coin has different volatilities including memecoins. That volatility is being taken-advantage by the people especially the Whales because they have the ability to manipulate the market but they always carrying a big risk, and also the other people who invested in it. So instead of making it confusing we can simply say that crypto is a high risk high reward.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Lucius on October 16, 2024, 04:50:08 PM
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And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.
Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?


I will say that it is a type of gambling, but one in which players bet against each other in a game where the key is to invest as early as possible, and exit at the best possible moment. All this, of course, with the fact that the owner has a bunch of pre-mined coins that he can dump at any time and thus end the game.

A pot of gold is always waiting for someone, but it is usually not found by ordinary people who invest $100 and dream of turning it into $100 000. I prefer to play the lottery, no matter how small the chances for the main prize are, the rules of the game are clear and everything is a matter of luck.

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Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Z-tight on October 16, 2024, 06:23:37 PM
So instead of making it confusing we can simply say that crypto is a high risk high reward.
Crypto, just like anything you call an investment, is risky, though the risk level is never the same. I don't risk my money on new altcoins, i know that a lot of people do, but i think it is synonymous to gambling, so i stay away. I buy BTC and i build my knowledge about it, so i would not lose my coin to scammers or my own mistake, that has been a safer approach and it has worked for me.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Baofeng on October 16, 2024, 09:14:32 PM
And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?

That's how it has been, specially with the emergence of altcoins, it started to turn things around and become a gambling per se. For investors, who look for that diamond in the rough so to speak with this meme coins and what is the latest hype.

But for Bitcoin it's very different, we can't even hit x10 now or even x5, but the thing is that it is stable and not that get rich quick scheme like meme coins. I don't see crypto though as making money out of thin air, there are a lot of money being invested, and with that we either win or lose in the end, simply as that.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Jating on October 16, 2024, 09:20:55 PM
Everything is out of thin air right now, FEDS continue to print money and so that other countries too. And we have heard this argument before, Bitcoin mining, and everything is not back up by something. But as you can see, there are billions of money flowing in the market, so I do not see that argument that everything is being pulled out of thin air. It's investment already, so there is money around like stocks, people put their money, and maybe take profits and then reinvest again, so that how's we get liquidity here. Remember as well that this arguments didn't start from crypto market, it has been with us for centuries already, and this concepts originated from Banks.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: sampoerna on October 16, 2024, 11:01:49 PM
That's how it has been, specially with the emergence of altcoins, it started to turn things around and become a gambling per se. For investors, who look for that diamond in the rough so to speak with this meme coins and what is the latest hype.

But for Bitcoin it's very different, we can't even hit x10 now or even x5, but the thing is that it is stable and not that get rich quick scheme like meme coins. I don't see crypto though as making money out of thin air, there are a lot of money being invested, and with that we either win or lose in the end, simply as that.
Maybe for people who expect quick and multiple profits, meme coins or shit coins that have just emerged are a path that they can really rely on. because if we look at it, sometimes in a few hours there are also new coins that increase by hundreds or even thousands of percent. this is crazy, that's why many of the profits are really beyond reason.

but yes, this is different from Bitcoin, as long as we still hold and don't sell at a loss, our assets are safe in Bitcoin, which will one day be able to increase again. and this is a very valuable crypto asset and can be said to be quite certain for the crypto business. but what about the new coins or meme coins or shit coins? If the time has passed or it is too late to take profits, it will be very difficult to hope that the price will go up that drastically again.

that's why, there is always the saying "high return, high risks, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Lucius on October 17, 2024, 03:57:44 PM
Crypto, just like anything you call an investment, is risky, though the risk level is never the same. I don't risk my money on new altcoins, i know that a lot of people do, but i think it is synonymous to gambling, so i stay away. I buy BTC and i build my knowledge about it, so i would not lose my coin to scammers or my own mistake, that has been a safer approach and it has worked for me.

It's definitely a safer approach that works for me, even though I've been doing it for almost 10 years and I've had the opportunity to invest in BTC at much lower prices, which means that I've been in big profit for a long time and I'm not so worried if the price of BTC drops by 20% or if it jumps as much.

Those who are just starting or started 1-2 years ago do not see BTC as a big opportunity if they compare it with altcoins that have really crazy pumps and that is why a lot of people decide to gamble with altcoins. I also think that they do not experience their losses too tragically, because their investments are in the range of several tens of $ per week, or perhaps $100 per month.

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Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 17, 2024, 05:02:18 PM
Maybe for people who expect quick and multiple profits, meme coins or shit coins that have just emerged are a path that they can really rely on. because if we look at it, sometimes in a few hours there are also new coins that increase by hundreds or even thousands of percent. this is crazy, that's why many of the profits are really beyond reason.

but yes, this is different from Bitcoin, as long as we still hold and don't sell at a loss, our assets are safe in Bitcoin, which will one day be able to increase again. and this is a very valuable crypto asset and can be said to be quite certain for the crypto business. but what about the new coins or meme coins or shit coins? If the time has passed or it is too late to take profits, it will be very difficult to hope that the price will go up that drastically again.

that's why, there is always the saying "high return, high risks, and vice versa.
Well, we shouldn't compare memecoins to BTC because it's like insulting BTC. Although BTC was also created from nothing (along with a lot of hardware and energy), it has achieved great success in the financial market.

On the other hand, memecoins and many other types of tokens are created hastily through support software and cost only a few dollars. They still have a chance to succeed and exist for a long time like SHIB, PEPE, BONK, but most of them will fail and be forgotten in the history of this market. I really hope that new investors will avoid "junk" tokens and focus on top coins.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: coinerer on October 21, 2024, 02:23:57 PM

Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?

Well there's nothing at the end of the rainbow. We should enjoy the rainboy untill it fade away. If we wants to make some good profit we've to accept the risk of losing our asset.

In memecoins it goes on just in reputation. Everyone knows dogecoin is the first memecoin and it was very cheap untill elon musk shows his interest on Dogecoin.

But some crypto does have actually use cases , they are solving problems of this crypto industries and bringing creativity inventing and intruducing new feature to us. We should choose them instead of blindly picking a token. Cause their team continuously working and bound to bring something new and attract more new user in this market.

Crypto nowadays accepting in a lot of industries and using broadly. So we have to decide what we're investing. Is the team is good?

If we can find out these it's not like gambling it's fundamental analysis. At the last don't mix your emotion in crypto.

We saw a lot of bug industries falls to zeero. Like $FTX & $LUNA who would have thought they are gonna be bankruptcy. So it's not always predictable, Don't mix your emotion.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Publictalk792 on October 21, 2024, 02:52:27 PM

Well there's nothing at the end of the rainbow. We should enjoy the rainboy untill it fade away. If we wants to make some good profit we've to accept the risk of losing our asset.

In memecoins it goes on just in reputation. Everyone knows dogecoin is the first memecoin and it was very cheap untill elon musk shows his interest on Dogecoin.

But some crypto does have actually use cases , they are solving problems of this crypto industries and bringing creativity inventing and intruducing new feature to us. We should choose them instead of blindly picking a token. Cause their team continuously working and bound to bring something new and attract more new user in this market.

Crypto nowadays accepting in a lot of industries and using broadly. So we have to decide what we're investing. Is the team is good?

If we can find out these it's not like gambling it's fundamental analysis. At the last don't mix your emotion in crypto.

We saw a lot of bug industries falls to zeero. Like $FTX & $LUNA who would have thought they are gonna be bankruptcy. So it's not always predictable, Don't mix your emotion.
Yes Making quick money in cryptocurrency is not always realistic. Focus on understanding process and take smart risks to succeed. Be wise when investing and know difference between coins like Dogecoin that rely on popularity and those that solve real problems. We always choose cryptocurrencies with strong teams and  ongoing improvements and practical uses. We do not make emotional decisions and stay informed to avoid losses even big companies like FTX and LUNA failed. By being thoughtful and cautious we will make better investment choices in growing crypto industry.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: robelneo on October 23, 2024, 05:31:18 PM

And with resurgence of memecoin in this cycle of the crypto era, we are again seeing investors looking not for value but for one that can give them x10, x100 and even x1000, of course. So this has become like a gambling thing.

Some people make it to be like gambling because they see the opportunity or maybe a loophole, and they know that people like to make profit on just about anything, so even if we don't like it, there will be among us who will look for profit more than value, but in the value will always win.

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Do you feel the same thing too...or do you prefer to see that at the end of rainbow there is something really waiting for this industry...maybe a pot of gold?
Value and usecase will always win because these are the two that conquer the market and what makes the industry moving forward.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Z-tight on October 24, 2024, 12:06:16 AM
We do not make emotional decisions and stay informed to avoid losses even big companies like FTX and LUNA failed.
Ftx is a collapsed centralized exchange and their creditors made a bad decision leaving their funds in the exchange. However, many people still leave funds in centralized exchanges, even though there have been so many exchanges and custodial services that have collapsed, people don't just learn their lesson.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Findingnemo on October 26, 2024, 06:07:52 PM
We do not make emotional decisions and stay informed to avoid losses even big companies like FTX and LUNA failed.
Ftx is a collapsed centralized exchange and their creditors made a bad decision leaving their funds in the exchange. However, many people still leave funds in centralized exchanges, even though there have been so many exchanges and custodial services that have collapsed, people don't just learn their lesson.

If some repeat their mistake of keeping the funds in a centralized exchange or custodial wallet even after losing previously due to some reasons means they lack the skill of learning. ???

For a trader it's acceptable to leave a fraction of their holding in the exchange itself since withdrawing everytime will eat the capital value over the profits but anyone else should not be using exchange as a wallet, they need to learn about the security of crypto assets even before thinking about investing in it.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Cryptsafe on October 26, 2024, 08:15:19 PM
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This is a very important point you have raised here. People need to learn about the security of crypto assets even before thinking about investing or holding them. Safety and security should be an investors major key to lasting investment because if  there are any lapses, the assets could be hacked or scammers could get their way through to do away with the investors assets.

Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: |MINER| on October 26, 2024, 08:32:33 PM
I don't think so, Crypto has it's own value and as well as it also running it own path. I wouldn't disagree about the unpredictable situation about the memcoin value on the market but is has also the reason and as well as also the sign like it will have the big backers and the potential team and goal and the plan also.
So I don't crypto making value out of the thin air. And I think those who are think this about the crypto market those don't have the analysis knowledge and they invested on crypto and face losses and that is the reason they said this.
Title: Re: Crypto: Making Value Out of Thin Air?
Post by: Stuart on November 14, 2024, 09:24:16 PM
I don't think it's ideal if you say crypto is making money or value out of a thin air. Time is used, imagine the time it took to move from a newbie in this forum to a Hero or Legendary Member, or money is invested for the projects to be successful at the end of it's campaign. Or are we looking at the part that gives more (or take more at same time  ;D ) which is the tactical knowledge or reading and understanding the movements of candle sticks in the market charts.
Time and dedication are being put in place for every success made in the crypto industry.

I believe there is a pot of gold up ahead. We just rocked BTC hitting $90k, with full expectation of it hitting the $100k price mark before the end of 2024. There will be more possibilities in the coming years as more investors and crypto enthusiasts will join the train.