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Title: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: ABCbits on October 04, 2024, 12:42:52 PM
Some of you probably have heard about this news. HBO claim they've discovered identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. And while their documentary isn't released yet, people on Polymarket mainly bet Len Sassaman as name that'll be revealed on it. I wouldn't bother watch their documentary, but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?

References:
https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-creator-bitcoin-identified-new-hbo-documentary-satoshi-nakamoto-crypto-currency/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-creator-bitcoin-identified-new-hbo-documentary-satoshi-nakamoto-crypto-currency/)
https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-hbo-doc-identify-as-satoshi (https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-hbo-doc-identify-as-satoshi)
https://www.hbo.com/movies/money-electric-the-bitcoin-mystery (https://www.hbo.com/movies/money-electric-the-bitcoin-mystery)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: _act_ on October 04, 2024, 12:50:42 PM
I wouldn't bother watch their documentary, but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
What I am expecting is that Satoshi Nakamoto will not be revealed because they can not know who Satoshi is or are.

They will most likely only come with guesses conclusion or their conclusion will be very fake from reality or fake to what that have happened in the past. It is just 4 days from now for them to disappoint people with their conclusion.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Zed0X on October 04, 2024, 12:58:46 PM
I wouldn't bother watch their documentary
You'll see a lot of clips posted on social media after it's released anyway.
 
~ but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
This must be the big reveal posts that I've seen. I think it's a money making documentary. At this point, it doesn't really matter if he's identified or not because Bitcoin is beyond him now.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: rdluffy on October 04, 2024, 02:19:10 PM
I believe it's just a flashy title in the end, since if they had found out, this information would have been revealed
I think in the end they'll reveal something more generic that we all know so far, that it could be several people, and we'll continue with the same opinion so far haha

Everyone's curiosity has certainly been aroused, so the strategy has already worked  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 04, 2024, 07:36:12 PM
There is no possible way for this to be true at all, and I mean not even %1 chance, there isn't even a lottery chance, they did not and will not. You know why I know? Because there are 100 million and more people in crypto world, and he is one of the biggest mysteries of all time, and from big government agencies like FBI and CIA and Mossad to KGB, they are all looking for him but also all these people are looking for him as well. So eventually one of them would have found already, and this documentary doesn't have people that are brighter and smarter than this 100+ million plus all agencies combined.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 04, 2024, 08:26:16 PM
There is no possible way for this to be true at all, and I mean not even %1 chance, there isn't even a lottery chance, they did not and will not. You know why I know? Because there are 100 million and more people in crypto world, and he is one of the biggest mysteries of all time, and from big government agencies like FBI and CIA and Mossad to KGB, they are all looking for him but also all these people are looking for him as well. So eventually one of them would have found already, and this documentary doesn't have people that are brighter and smarter than this 100+ million plus all agencies combined.
Well, we've been discussing Satoshi identity for years but we've only gained more insight into Satoshi's grand vision rather than uncovering his true identity. I don't believe HBO can shed any light on this even if they can create a compelling conspiracy theory.

The crypto community also has many hypotheses but each hypothesis has flaws that make it completely unreliable. I'll wait for the film reviews to see the artistic perspective on the mystery of Satoshi, at least it will help crypto reach potential investors through popular art.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: TomPluz on October 05, 2024, 05:22:49 AM


I am not so sure if this coming documentary can definitely 100% identify the real Satoshi Nakamoto. There is now a strong interest and speculation that Len Sassaman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Sassaman) will be the name to be revealed by this documentary...and they can come up of some basis why this dead man can be the ONE we are looking for. Unfortunately, the man is dead since 2011 so it would be hard to confirm if he really invented Bitcoin. Now, am quite sure this will not be the last attempt to unmask the Bitcoin founder but nothing will stop the speculation. The only thing that is so clear with me is that I am not the one who made Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 05, 2024, 06:33:03 AM
I wouldn't bother watch their documentary, but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
What I am expecting is that Satoshi Nakamoto will not be revealed because they can not know who Satoshi is or are.
yup it is all just a clickbait title and prospect of course people will click on it thinking they will finally have an answer but in the end there will be nothing i would like to check it out tho just to check for inaccuracies hopefully there aren’t much because a well made documentary can help educate much people but if the show is just full of misinformation then well nothing much we can do
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Baofeng on October 05, 2024, 11:46:28 AM
I'm still going to be watching it do, I have to check Netflix if it has been rolled already in Asia.

Although I will obviously very skeptic about the whole documentary and maybe caught some mistakes about it. We have been chasing the shadow of Satoshi for many years and up to know, no one has claim or no one says definitively that they have found the creator of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: ABCbits on October 05, 2024, 12:44:34 PM
I believe it's just a flashy title in the end, since if they had found out, this information would have been revealed
I think in the end they'll reveal something more generic that we all know so far, that it could be several people, and we'll continue with the same opinion so far haha

Everyone's curiosity has certainly been aroused, so the strategy has already worked  :D

You're probably right. It's safer rather than choosing someone with weak proof or choosing controversial feature (such as faketoshi).

I'm still going to be watching it do, I have to check Netflix if it has been rolled already in Asia.

It's HBO exclusive for now. Which is why some people (on different website) also speculate it's HBO tactic to make people subscribe to their service.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Jating on October 05, 2024, 01:07:55 PM
I don't know, but for me, I might not watch it at all. I have been in the crypto and Bitcoin for at least 8 years and so far no one, not even FBI has come up to claim that they indeed identified Satoshi.

And we all know that there are a lot of personalities in the past that everyone has suspected to be Satoshi. But up to this day, majority of us believed that Satoshi will not be found, unless someone had signed a message on a supposedly old Satoshi address.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: robelneo on October 05, 2024, 03:44:29 PM
This is another hype on finding Satoshi Nakamoto that happened 5 or six years ago, and now they want another hype and HBO wants this maybe to increase their subscription base or whatever but this is interesting not because they may have found the real Satoshi Nakamoto but what theory they are going to offer this time, maybe its somethign new that will generate interest and lets see if the Satoshi version that they've found will admit that he is the real Nakamoto.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on October 05, 2024, 04:21:03 PM
This is a bunch of bad propaganda and trying to sell this documentary to more people before release day, and I think they managed to do it.
I am not expecting from them to say anything new that we already don't know, just a bunch of speculations and interviews.
Bottom line is - they don't know who Satoshi is.

Here is the trailer for anyone who didn't see it already:
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Rami on October 05, 2024, 06:48:21 PM
I guess we’ll finally find out if Satoshi is a genius coder or just a really good magician! 🎩✨ If it turns out to be Len Sassaman, I hope he’s ready for a lifetime of “Are you Satoshi?” questions at every family gathering!
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Freemind on October 06, 2024, 12:36:59 PM
Many people, governments, security agencies and more have searched and continue to search for the real Satoshi, and have never found him. It seems an insult to me, and very coincidental, that HBO, a payment platform, knows who Satoshi is and is going to reveal it to the world. theymos, the person who may have more information on this matter, made it very clear in a post on BitcoinTalk.

Satoshi Identity Revealed LOL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5511762.msg64601119#msg64601119)

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My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
 - Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.

I think the documentary that HBO will premiere on October 8 is just smoke.

@_act_ I deleted the new thread, thanks for sending me to this thread, I hadn't seen it.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Lucius on October 06, 2024, 04:10:27 PM
I guess we’ll finally find out if Satoshi is a genius coder or just a really good magician! 🎩✨ If it turns out to be Len Sassaman, I hope he’s ready for a lifetime of “Are you Satoshi?” questions at every family gathering!

You are taking baby steps in the wrong direction - read other people's posts before you write something. In the post from @TomPluz (+1) it is clearly written (with a link) that LS died in the middle of 2011.



@Freemind, if you read that topic, then maybe you also read my post - however, believing the information that LS died only two months after Satoshi wrote his last post on BTT, I assumed that with regard to other information that exists regarding Satoshi's private communication - > Gavin Andersen (April 26, 2011) LS can't be Satoshi. However, considering that LS died a few months after that, it is a possible candidate to be Satoshi.

Of course, assuming that someone is Satoshi is one thing, and proving it is something else entirely. If it is true that LS left computers that were completely encrypted, then no one will be able to reliably prove anything so soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: target on October 06, 2024, 05:11:12 PM
Len Sassaman woukd have to.prove and sign message to old wallets.
Hes going for a wild ride of his life but anything coukd happen already in this wierd times.

There ha e been theories BTC was created by the government since it appearse after 2008 financial crisis and the gvernment has to  create a new economic market to save its ass for the coming collapse. So if its Sassaman, he probably is a government planted.

Kraken exchange should know the guy because recently they recieve BTC from wallet created back in 2008.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Cantsay on October 06, 2024, 05:35:33 PM
Len Sassaman woukd have to.prove and sign message to old wallets.
Hes going for a wild ride of his life but anything coukd happen already in this wierd times.


The post above yours already stated that LS is no longer alive, so how do you expect the signing of the message from an old wallet address to work?

8th is not that far again, let’s just wait and see what type of theory they’ll come up with in the documentary and also who they’ll point as being Satoshi.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Z-tight on October 06, 2024, 10:59:23 PM
It is easy to get publicity when you use the crypto community, even Donald Trump has made BTC a part of his campaign strategy and it has worked for him. We all know HBO isn't going to reveal Satoshi to us, they cannot do that because they do not know who Satoshi is, but this is good PR for them, and it has worked because a lot of people have been talking about this.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Freemind on October 07, 2024, 09:10:02 PM
~snip~
@Freemind, if you read that topic, then maybe you also read my post - however, believing the information that LS died only two months after Satoshi wrote his last post on BTT, I assumed that with regard to other information that exists regarding Satoshi's private communication - > Gavin Andersen (April 26, 2011) LS can't be Satoshi. However, considering that LS died a few months after that, it is a possible candidate to be Satoshi.

Of course, assuming that someone is Satoshi is one thing, and proving it is something else entirely. If it is true that LS left computers that were completely encrypted, then no one will be able to reliably prove anything so soon.

Correct, and that was precisely what I was looking for a few minutes ago, more specific dates. Also taking into account what theymos have said in BTT, it is very likely that LS is not Satoshi, we must remember that he was one of the last people with whom Satoshi spoke "publicly" and take the emails into account.

My opinion remains the same, I don't think Len Sassaman is Satoshi. Now I will ask a question to all the users of the forum.

Doesn't anyone find it strange that HBO (or any streaming platform) is releasing a documentary about Satoshi, focusing on a person who died?. I hope someone understands where I'm going...
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Stompix on October 07, 2024, 09:21:13 PM
Len Sassaman woukd have to.prove and sign message to old wallets.
Hes going for a wild ride of his life but anything coukd happen already in this wierd times.

Yeah, before that go and grab the elixir of life because the guy has been dead for 13 years!

Kraken exchange should know the guy because recently they recieve BTC from wallet created back in 2008.

How could someone send coins from a wallet created in 2008 when the genesis block was mined in 2009?
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on October 08, 2024, 12:08:40 AM
Everyone preparing for another big nothingburger documentary reveal  8)

Len Sassaman woukd have to.prove and sign message to old wallets.
Hes going for a wild ride of his life but anything coukd happen already in this wierd times.
Dude....  ::)
Len Sassaman has been dead for 13 years.
Simple search of his name would told you that he committed a suicide in 2011.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: ABCbits on October 08, 2024, 11:15:29 AM
Kraken exchange should know the guy because recently they recieve BTC from wallet created back in 2008.

How could someone send coins from a wallet created in 2008 when the genesis block was mined in 2009?

It's possible he mistook year of genesis block mined with date of Bitcoin whitepaper. Although Kraken exchange was founded in 2011.

Everyone preparing for another big nothingburger documentary reveal  8)

I'm not sure what you mean by preparing. But IMO some people just want to laugh at HBO, assuming they nominate someone as Satoshi with no or weak proof.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Lucius on October 08, 2024, 02:50:22 PM
~snip~
@Freemind, if you read that topic, then maybe you also read my post - however, believing the information that LS died only two months after Satoshi wrote his last post on BTT, I assumed that with regard to other information that exists regarding Satoshi's private communication - > Gavin Andersen (April 26, 2011) LS can't be Satoshi. However, considering that LS died a few months after that, it is a possible candidate to be Satoshi.

Of course, assuming that someone is Satoshi is one thing, and proving it is something else entirely. If it is true that LS left computers that were completely encrypted, then no one will be able to reliably prove anything so soon.


Correct, and that was precisely what I was looking for a few minutes ago, more specific dates. Also taking into account what theymos have said in BTT, it is very likely that LS is not Satoshi, we must remember that he was one of the last people with whom Satoshi spoke "publicly" and take the emails into account.

My opinion remains the same, I don't think Len Sassaman is Satoshi. Now I will ask a question to all the users of the forum.

Doesn't anyone find it strange that HBO (or any streaming platform) is releasing a documentary about Satoshi, focusing on a person who died?. I hope someone understands where I'm going...


I don't find it strange that any streaming platform deals with any topics that have to do with famous and deceased people - because people are intrigued by such things and that obviously increases viewership. I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but maybe in the direction that if Satoshi is dead then we shouldn't be afraid that he will appear one day and dump his 1+ million BTC - or maybe after tonight some people will claim that BTC is a project of a crazy man who eventually committed suicide.

Be that as it may, today I read an article in which the LS widow says that she does not think that her late husband was Satoshi - noting that no one even contacted her about the documentary in question. There are more interesting details in the article that will probably be part of the documentary.

Quote from: https://www.dlnews.com/articles/people-culture/len-sassaman-the-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto/
Sassaman who died in 2011, isn’t Satoshi, says his widow, Meredith L Patterson. And HBO never even approached her when making the documentary, she told DL News, “which is the strangest thing about all this to me.” ... The suggestion that Sassaman could be Satoshi Nakamoto is not a new one. When similar claims circulated in 2022, Patterson refuted them, emphasising that Sassaman was “a Mac user.” Early Bitcoin development was focused on Linux, and Satoshi had to ask for help building the MacOS version, which is the operating system used by Apple devices like the MacBook. ... Another intriguing detail that fuels the speculation: a reference found in Satoshi’s writings to an obscure academic conference that took place in 1999 near the Belgian city of Leuven — the same city where Sassaman later earned his PhD. Sassaman did not list this conference among those he attended, and its proceedings were likely accessible online.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Findingnemo on October 08, 2024, 09:07:36 PM
I watched the trailer and it's kind of jumping all over the place and my best guess they are going to show the profile of Satoshi on Bitcointalk and nothing else.

Even though it seems a stunt to make people to subscribe it will reach more places who already subscribed and their clips surely will be going viral all over the media so it could help with the adoption.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: electronicash on October 08, 2024, 09:59:57 PM

its not even someone that people have already been speculating to be Satoshi such as Hal Finney or Adam Back or Nick Szabo. what would the effect of this documentary to Craig Wright and his believers?  ;D

i haven't watched it yet nor read the article about this discovery but my speculation is that if they are going to verify whether he is the real Satoshi, should they be finding out whether he kept some private keys on the wallets from genesis?
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: bhadz on October 09, 2024, 08:22:53 AM
I don't have to watch the docu of HBO about satoshi nakamoto because it's for sure that they don't have any leads who's the real one. The one that they have revealed isn't even convinced himself that he's satoshi.  ;D

its not even someone that people have already been speculating to be Satoshi such as Hal Finney or Adam Back or Nick Szabo. what would the effect of this documentary to Craig Wright and his believers?  ;D

i haven't watched it yet nor read the article about this discovery but my speculation is that if they are going to verify whether he is the real Satoshi, should they be finding out whether he kept some private keys on the wallets from genesis?
Their lead isn't even known by the community. Whoever are their researchers, they need to do better but still good job for making a content and making everyone curious about it but lacks convincing theories and facts.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: God Of Thunder on October 09, 2024, 03:44:36 PM
I don't have to watch the docu of HBO about satoshi nakamoto because it's for sure that they don't have any leads who's the real one. The one that they have revealed isn't even convinced himself that he's satoshi.  ;D

Now, Peter Todd even accused HBO of putting his life in danger. I was reading a article right now about it and as it says;

“For the record, I’m not Satoshi,” Peter Todd, a bitcoin core developer, told CNN in a statement. Todd accused the film of being “irresponsible” and putting his life in danger.[1]

There is no real reason For Peter Todd to deny that he is not Satoshi. He could have said that he do not have access to his wallets anymore and he does not have control of those Bitcoin. He simply decided not to lie about it. A lot of Faketoshies tried to prove themself as Satoshi while a honest guy denied that he is not Satoshi.


[1] ‘I am not Satoshi Nakamoto’: Subject of HBO documentary denies he invented bitcoin (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/08/investing/satoshi-nakamoto-identity/index.html)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Lucius on October 09, 2024, 05:19:16 PM
@Learn Bitcoin, whoever the real Satoshi is, he definitely has a reason to remain anonymous as he has been until now. Todd would have done himself a lot more damage if he had confessed, not to mention that revealing the identity of the real Satoshi would only have negative consequences for BTC.

Of course, I'm not suggesting that Todd is who some "geniuses" think he is, but I just want to say that none of the living people who are suspected of being Satoshi will ever admit it, because none of them want such "fame".

+1
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Stompix on October 09, 2024, 09:20:54 PM
There is no real reason For Peter Todd to deny that he is not Satoshi. He could have said that he do not have access to his wallets anymore and he does not have control of those Bitcoin. He simply decided not to lie about it.


Do you believe that guys who think he is Satoshi with this little proof and are prepared to harm him for his coins would also believe him if he says he is Satoshi but he has lost his wallet? Remember the $5 wrench, don't you think there are a ton of guys who would think, well he admitted he is Satoshi, we isk a few years in jail if we get caught but let's see if beating him to a pulp won't make him remember where those 60 billions are!
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on October 09, 2024, 09:49:52 PM
Now that I heard how authors of this documentary are claiming that Peter Todd is allegedly Satoshi Nakamoto, I can only laugh and say that this is one big bullshit.
I didn't watch documentary yet, but I think that three letter government agency was involved in making this.
Majority of Bitcoin community does not agree with claims made in Money Electric.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Z-tight on October 09, 2024, 10:35:43 PM
There is no real reason For Peter Todd to deny that he is not Satoshi. He could have said that he do not have access to his wallets anymore and he does not have control of those Bitcoin. He simply decided not to lie about it. A lot of Faketoshies tried to prove themself as Satoshi while a honest guy denied that he is not Satoshi.
That is the smartest thing to do, deny what you aren't, what will be the point of claiming to be Satoshi and then looking over your shoulders, when truly you are a faketoshi. Only a conman like Craig Wright would argue to be Satoshi all these years, when it is so obvious that he is not, any sensible person would not want to draw attention to himself or his family with a lie.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Rruchi man on October 09, 2024, 10:58:02 PM
... but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
I will not trust the identity of whosoever the release in the documentary will be Satoshi Nakamoto because the hype around this kind of documentary is usually for them to have a lot of viewers and have financial benefit from it. I'm simply not interested in this documentary and will not be following the update on this unless perhaps I come across it mistakenly, but I would not consciously seek to watch this documentary because I believe it will be false.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: KingsDen on October 10, 2024, 02:36:33 AM
... but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
I will not trust the identity of whosoever the release in the documentary will be Satoshi Nakamoto because the hype around this kind of documentary is usually for them to have a lot of viewers and have financial benefit from it. I'm simply not interested in this documentary and will not be following the update on this unless perhaps I come across it mistakenly, but I would not consciously seek to watch this documentary because I believe it will be false.
If everly the true Satoshi Nakamato will surface again, it will be through forums like BTT or discords or private emails and not from such purported documentaries. It's just about clout chasing and making money and not for the benefit of the cryptocurrency industry.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: NotATether on October 10, 2024, 10:05:10 AM
Now that I heard how authors of this documentary are claiming that Peter Todd is allegedly Satoshi Nakamoto, I can only laugh and say that this is one big bullshit.
I didn't watch documentary yet, but I think that three letter government agency was involved in making this.
Majority of Bitcoin community does not agree with claims made in Money Electric.

Three letter agencies don't have time to meddle with streaming giants' productions, especially when their targets are usually elsewhere and not streaming videos to their devices.

I think an executive had one too many shots one night, had a meeting, and then decided "why don't we make a documentary on who Satoshi is but we just use Bitcointalk posts as evidence?" "Will it make a lot of money?" "Sure it will, from crypto bros".
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: robelneo on October 10, 2024, 10:19:10 AM
I have not yet watched the documentary and still looking for a review od this documentary I'm sure many will post their reviews on YouTube and other social media, but one of the thing that HBO's evidence show on their documentary is this one, but of course Peter Todd will deny this and I don;t think its a strong evidence that he really is.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/10/ilOOI.png) (https://talkimg.com/image/ilOOI)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: NotATether on October 10, 2024, 10:45:57 AM
I have not yet watched the documentary and still looking for a review od this documentary I'm sure many will post their reviews on YouTube and other social media, but one of the thing that HBO's evidence show on their documentary is this one, but of course Peter Todd will deny this and I don;t think its a strong evidence that he really is.

They may write that Peter Todd denies this, but they are putting "Satoshi" and "Peter Todd" right next to each other along with his face, so some people might actually believe this stuff, especially on mainstream media who've never heard of him before.

I am actually starting to worry about his safety. I can't imagine how he feels now that a bunch of dim-witted criminals might actually believe this news and think he does have the 1.1 million BTC and "rob Satoshi Nakamoto".
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Baofeng on October 10, 2024, 01:40:05 PM
I have not yet watched the documentary and still looking for a review od this documentary I'm sure many will post their reviews on YouTube and other social media, but one of the thing that HBO's evidence show on their documentary is this one, but of course Peter Todd will deny this and I don;t think its a strong evidence that he really is.

They may write that Peter Todd denies this, but they are putting "Satoshi" and "Peter Todd" right next to each other along with his face, so some people might actually believe this stuff, especially on mainstream media who've never heard of him before.

I am actually starting to worry about his safety. I can't imagine how he feels now that a bunch of dim-witted criminals might actually believe this news and think he does have the 1.1 million BTC and "rob Satoshi Nakamoto".

Great point, we have seen the numbers of physical attacks on crypto holders, and so with this documentary, who knows, maybe this dim witted criminals goes after him because he is "Satoshi" after all.

Hopefully Peter will be aware of this and take his safety seriously. This could be one downside of this documentary, revealing people and we all know that he already deny this many times already that he is not Satoshi.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: NotATether on October 10, 2024, 01:51:43 PM
Great point, we have seen the numbers of physical attacks on crypto holders, and so with this documentary, who knows, maybe this dim witted criminals goes after him because he is "Satoshi" after all.

Hopefully Peter will be aware of this and take his safety seriously. This could be one downside of this documentary, revealing people and we all know that he already deny this many times already that he is not Satoshi.

I'm pretty sure he knows Jameson Lopp very well so I don't think he has anything to worry about on the crypto-heists front. I'm sure he can give him some advice about home defence. (https://blog.lopp.net/firearms-for-home-defense/) Peter is definitely not the type to, you know, flaunt his wealth, unlike some of those edgy 19-year olds I read on the news who do that and then get mugged at gun-point or arrested for wire fraud.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Gurujebs on October 10, 2024, 01:55:20 PM
I have not yet watched the documentary and still looking for a review od this documentary I'm sure many will post their reviews on YouTube and other social media, but one of the thing that HBO's evidence show on their documentary is this one, but of course Peter Todd will deny this and I don;t think its a strong evidence that he really is.

Todd Peter has denied the claim which is was expected but if I am him, I will be happy to sue HBO for endangering his life because I'm very sure that with this fake documentary, his reputation and security has been put at risk and even if he deny it, I'm sure some people will not believe and will want to do anything to attack him especially that his 1M untouch Bitcoin ;D

I have only read that Todd was an advocate of Bitcoin and has done a lor as a developer, even wrote a lot of BIP proposals but it is foolish of one company to claim he is the founder of Bitcoin, why not other famous Bitcoin developers.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: God Of Thunder on October 10, 2024, 03:11:18 PM
There is no real reason For Peter Todd to deny that he is not Satoshi. He could have said that he do not have access to his wallets anymore and he does not have control of those Bitcoin. He simply decided not to lie about it. A lot of Faketoshies tried to prove themself as Satoshi while a honest guy denied that he is not Satoshi.
That is the smartest thing to do, deny what you aren't, what will be the point of claiming to be Satoshi and then looking over your shoulders, when truly you are a faketoshi. Only a conman like Craig Wright would argue to be Satoshi all these years, when it is so obvious that he is not, any sensible person would not want to draw attention to himself or his family with a lie.

Craig Write is a businessman, and he wanted to be Satoshi because it would help his business and his scams to work further. He is a scammer as well. Everything he did was just for business purposes. He tried to be famous, which would boost his business. A lot of companies would invest in his business. However, the plan did not work because a true creator of Bitcoin won't just mess around and support a fork. People know that he is not Satoshi. I am glad that he had to face the court due to this, and he was proved Faketoshi. At some point, he was forced to update his website saying he was dishonest.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Lucius on October 10, 2024, 03:45:08 PM
They may write that Peter Todd denies this, but they are putting "Satoshi" and "Peter Todd" right next to each other along with his face, so some people might actually believe this stuff, especially on mainstream media who've never heard of him before.
~snip~


Today I read an article in my local newspaper that reads something like "Mystery solved, BTC creator found", so so-called journalists who only c/p news from other media do not question the credibility of such claims at all, but take them for granted.

However, I think that the average person who is not interested in BTC anyway is not too interested in such things, so that story will probably fade over time - especially if someone makes another documentary in which they will claim that Satoshi is actually someone else.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: KingsDen on October 10, 2024, 11:21:32 PM
They may write that Peter Todd denies this, but they are putting "Satoshi" and "Peter Todd" right next to each other along with his face, so some people might actually believe this stuff, especially on mainstream media who've never heard of him before.
~snip~


Today I read an article in my local newspaper that reads something like "Mystery solved, BTC creator found", so so-called journalists who only c/p news from other media do not question the credibility of such claims at all, but take them for granted.

However, I think that the average person who is not interested in BTC anyway is not too interested in such things, so that story will probably fade over time - especially if someone makes another documentary in which they will claim that Satoshi is actually someone else.
They actually do not make such a news for people who are not interested in Bitcoin. They make it for people interested in cryptocurrency but has no deep knowledge of bitcoin. They might not have bought any bitcoin in life, maybe they joined the industry through airdop and meme coins hunting. These set of people will help spread the news without verification.

Is there no body that regulates journalism? I mean these guys can misinform and go free. They do anything to remain relevant in their journalism business. If CW can fade, nobody claiming or acclaimed to be Satoshi that wouldn't fade.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on October 10, 2024, 11:42:16 PM
I watch the documentary today and I don't want to reveal to much spoilers, but movie was done more like quick history of bitcoin.
Talking about identity of Satoshi Nakamoto was jumbled up and inserted sparingly with authors personal speculation and opinions.
There is no real evidence for his claims and whole thing was not executed very well.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 11, 2024, 11:01:19 AM
I can't watch the documentary as I don't have a subscription plan to HBO, and for those who are curious about it, I would say follow whatever these users are saying.
The 100-minute documentary is more of a harm than a benefit because HBO created a non-sense documentary in exchange for a security of another person.

Just watch this video on YouTube. He summarized what the documentary is, and why it's for him, one of the worst Bitcoin-related documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-c_j2tgxDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-c_j2tgxDU)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Lucius on October 11, 2024, 03:03:50 PM
I can't watch the documentary as I don't have a subscription plan to HBO, and for those who are curious about it, I would say follow whatever these users are saying.
The 100-minute documentary is more of a harm than a benefit because HBO created a non-sense documentary in exchange for a security of another person.
~snip~


You don't necessarily have to have a subscription to watch that or any other documentary, because it has already become available through various IPTV services and has probably already been uploaded to torrents. Of course, I'm not saying that you should do anything illegal, I'm just stating the facts ;)

As for "doing more harm than good" I would disagree that there is any harm to anyone, as all the people appearing in the documentary apparently agreed to it willingly, including Peter Todd and Adam Back.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Cryptsafe on October 11, 2024, 03:30:02 PM
... but what do you think about upcoming HBO documentary?
I will not trust the identity of whosoever the release in the documentary will be Satoshi Nakamoto because the hype around this kind of documentary is usually for them to have a lot of viewers and have financial benefit from it. I'm simply not interested in this documentary and will not be following the update on this unless perhaps I come across it mistakenly, but I would not consciously seek to watch this documentary because I believe it will be false.

I think all these documentaries are just cooked up because on a normal, we all know satoshi would never come out to reveal his identity when he knows the world is waiting for him. I would not even give a second thought believing whatever or whoever stands out to claim to be Satoshi while airing such documentaries.

What ever the organisers of such events are up to is just left for them because all their major focus is just centered on generating traffic and funds to themselves and nothing much. Whoever dares to present himself as Satoshi on that documentaries should just be prepared for the turn of events because the government would definitely come after him.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on October 11, 2024, 09:06:57 PM
Three letter agencies don't have time to meddle with streaming giants' productions, especially when their targets are usually elsewhere and not streaming videos to their devices.
This agencies are involved in literally everything.
HBO has been involved in several projects related to the CIA, NSA, and everyone know that ALL news network have their people working inside.
If you watched this documentary Money Electric you would see that even Peter Todd was connected with certain government agent, same as Gavin Andresen.
Some even speculate that they have their fingers in developing bitcoin.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: examplens on October 11, 2024, 09:25:43 PM
I have not yet watched the documentary and still looking for a review od this documentary I'm sure many will post their reviews on YouTube and other social media, but one of the thing that HBO's evidence show on their documentary is this one, but of course Peter Todd will deny this and I don;t think its a strong evidence that he really is.

HBO showed a sublimated message that Peter Todd is actually Satoshi. At the same time, the whole thing was fun for him during the recording, so maybe his message of denial might not be taken very seriously.

If you watched this documentary Money Electric you would see that even Peter Todd was connected with certain government agent, same as Gavin Andresen.
Some even speculate that they have their fingers in developing bitcoin.
The government and the three-letter agency were mentioned too many times for an ordinary documentary.  ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 12, 2024, 12:06:17 AM
Realizing what kind of mistake they did with this could cause HBO to never work with this producer or even director ever again. Remember, bad marketing do exists for big companies, I understand if you are totally unknown, bad marketing could result with at least "some" people siding with you and you ending up better than before thanks to this. But when you are HBO, being bad mouthed because of a moron isn't something you are going to like, and this should not be all that great for the long term neither. They will have to figure out what to do next, or just act as if this didn't happen and move on and be more careful.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on November 08, 2024, 09:53:21 PM
This was stupid documentary, but I had much more fun watching another clown Stephen Mollah who is pretending to be Satoshi.
If you want to laugh I recommend watching or listening six videos from ''press conference'' in London 31/10/2024, uploaded by Jonny1000



Enjoy ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: ABCbits on November 09, 2024, 10:06:31 AM
This was stupid documentary, but I had much more fun watching another clown Stephen Mollah who is pretending to be Satoshi.
If you want to laugh I recommend watching or listening six videos from ''press conference'' in London 31/10/2024, uploaded by Jonny1000



Enjoy ;)

Unfortunately i find video uploaded by that youtuber have rather low audio quality, which is challenging for me who isn't native english speaker. Some reader may want to read https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c079zp2vy31o (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c079zp2vy31o) instead.
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Freemind on November 09, 2024, 10:52:19 AM
This was stupid documentary, but I had much more fun watching another clown Stephen Mollah who is pretending to be Satoshi.
If you want to laugh I recommend watching or listening six videos from ''press conference'' in London 31/10/2024, uploaded by Jonny1000
~snip~

Correct. It's good for a laugh, but nothing more. I don't know if the people who make these documentaries, and all those who claim to be Satoshi, think that we are idiots, or that we were born yesterday. I don't understand the point of doing these things, they draw attention that is quickly lost by not being able to show absolutely anything...
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: dkbit98 on November 09, 2024, 07:30:28 PM
Correct. It's good for a laugh, but nothing more. I don't know if the people who make these documentaries, and all those who claim to be Satoshi, think that we are idiots, or that we were born yesterday. I don't understand the point of doing these things, they draw attention that is quickly lost by not being able to show absolutely anything...
Believe it or not this latest Faketoshi scammer asked everyone who was in his ''press conference'' to pay entry fee, so they are only trying to earn money with stuff like this.
It's funny that he announced another bigger event and I am sure he is going to ask money again... because he announced real ''evidence'' of his claims  :P
Title: Re: Upcoming HBO documentary claims to identify Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Post by: Freemind on November 11, 2024, 09:11:31 PM
Believe it or not this latest Faketoshi scammer asked everyone who was in his ''press conference'' to pay entry fee, so they are only trying to earn money with stuff like this.
It's funny that he announced another bigger event and I am sure he is going to ask money again... because he announced real ''evidence'' of his claims  :P

The problem, and the fun part, is not that this "new Satoshi" is going to organize another event soon, the problem, but above all, the fun part, is that there will be people attending that event. As long as we continue to listen to these types of people, more people will always appear who claim to be Satoshi, and in the end everything related to the identity of the real Satoshi will end up becoming a circus.

Satoshi doesn't want us to know who he or she is or what group of people they are. And although I know it is difficult, that must be respected.