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Bitpost | Decentralized parcel delivery
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Bitpost is a fully decentralized parcel delivery system leveraging community members to provide services in their local areas, thereby building a global logistics network. Open to everyone. Beyond anyone's control. Powered by blockchain.
Website:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc (https://bitpost.cc)
BPG Presale:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bpg (https://bitpost.cc/bpg)
White paper:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/whitepaper.pdf (http://bitpost.cc/whitepaper.pdf)
Decentralized Logistics Network
Unaffiliated individuals build the global logistics network by operating sorting hubs, delivering parcels, or hosting electronic parcel lockers in areas where they live. The service coverage is constantly expanding until it spans the entire globe. Participants are incentivized for their honest work and penalized for protocol violations, allowing untrusted parties to securely exchange parcels entrusted by customers.
Game-changer for the Shipping Industry
Instead of relying on centralized sorting facilities, Bitpost uses a peer-to-peer like approach, where closely located sorting hubs exchange parcels with their neighbors. The network can scale dynamically, attracting more participants and increasing the frequency of transport between key distribution points, reducing delivery times with the only limit of actual transit time between sender and recipient.
Trustworthy Shipping Method
Security deposits locked in smart contracts guarantee compensation for lost or damaged parcels. Tracking statuses are immutable records on the blockchain, automatically generated during the parcel handoff and confirmed by cryptographic signatures, making them tamper-proof. Utilizing these mechanisms, Bitpost fosters a transparent and trustworthy logistics environment, ensuring that customers can rely on the integrity of the service.
Privacy by Design
Users can start using Bitpost instantly, without agreements or formalities. Instead of relying on government-issued IDs, users are identified solely by the cryptographic keys of their connected wallets, allowing network participants and parcel locker users to remain fully anonymous. For home deliveries, Bitpost maximizes the privacy of both the sender's and recipient's addresses.
Market-Driven Pricing
Instead of fixed rates for sending a parcel, Bitpost operates on a flexible, market-driven pricing model. Customers propose a fee, and drivers choose to accept only the jobs they find profitable. This decentralized approach creates a competitive environment within the network, encouraging continuous cost optimization among service providers.
In Harmony with Web3
Third-party smart contracts can interact with Bitpost's smart contracts to manage shipments, monitor their statuses, and take automated actions. The emergence of fully decentralized, Web3-compatible logistics system makes previously unattainable models, such as decentralized marketplaces, storage, rental services or pawnshops will be able to thrive.
BPG public presale is underway!
BPG is the governance token of Bitpost. BPG holders can decide about the project future by proposing protocol updates and voting on them. They are also entitled to share in the profits distribution.
PRESALE LIVE ➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bpg (https://bitpost.cc/bpg)
X (Twitter):
https://x.com/BitpostNetwork (https://x.com/BitpostNetwork)
TikTok:
https://tiktok.com/@BitpostNetwork (https://tiktok.com/@BitpostNetwork)
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Market-Driven Pricing
Instead of fixed rates for sending a parcel, Bitpost operates on a flexible, market-driven pricing model. Customers propose a fee, and drivers choose to accept only the jobs they find profitable. This decentralized approach creates a competitive environment within the network, encouraging continuous cost optimization among service providers.
Oh, how much infrastructure is needed for this alone, the software solution is perhaps the smallest problem. Plus there are a lot of additional things, customs, taxes, various controls... All this has to be done by people and some kind of token cannot solve it.
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Oh, how much infrastructure is needed for this alone, the software solution is perhaps the smallest problem. Plus there are a lot of additional things, customs, taxes, various controls... All this has to be done by people and some kind of token cannot solve it.
Don't ask them to many questions about this, just send them your coins and participate in presale quickly :)
I could be wrong, but I don't see any realistic way for this project to work in next 5 to 10 years, if ever.
$1,200,000 won't change anything, and this project gives me the vibes from 2019/2020 time period.
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Don't ask them to many questions about this, just send them your coins and participate in presale quickly :)
You mean:
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Oh, how much infrastructure is needed for this alone, the software solution is perhaps the smallest problem.
What exactly do you mean? What kind of infrastructure?
Don't ask them to many questions about this, just send them your coins and participate in presale quickly :)
We are happy to answer any questions about this project and ideas behind it. Feel free to ask.
I could be wrong, but I don't see any realistic way for this project to work in next 5 to 10 years, if ever.
It's not as difficult as you think. Check the roadmap on the project website. So far, the development work is on schedule, and we do not plan any delays. The presale is essential for us to launch with a bang: execute effective marketing, encourage early adopters to build the logistics network, and establish partnerships with popular online stores to integrate Bitpost as a delivery method. All the software behind Bitpost (smart contracts, dApp, etc) will be developed and launched regardless of the presale outcome, but without sufficient funding, organic growth may be slow, and the project could end up being quite niche.
this project gives me the vibes from 2019/2020 time period.
Just recently, we did research that resulted in this article:
bitpost.cc/the-story-behind-decentralized-parcel-delivery-systems-from-early-concepts-to-reality/
We also noticed that the biggest boom for decentralized delivery projects occurred during those years. Do you have any memories or personal thoughts related to that?
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In Harmony with Web3
Third-party smart contracts can interact with Bitpost's smart contracts to manage shipments, monitor their statuses, and take automated actions. The emergence of fully decentralized, Web3-compatible logistics system makes previously unattainable models, such as decentralized marketplaces, storage, rental services or pawnshops will be able to thrive.
That sounds really cool. However, I’m curious whether Bitpost will be able to support cross-chain functionality, or will it be limited to a specific ecosystem? If these aspects are managed well, Bitpost could indeed become a foundational layer for many decentralized services with real-world use cases. I’m looking forward to seeing how this develops
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Bitpost is building its complete ecosystem on top of an EVM-compatible blockchain, which hosts the platform's smart contracts, settlement and governance tokens, as well as all Layer 2 extensions, our own side projects and 3rd party applications. However interoperability is fully possible, for example by using the Arbitrary Message Bridge with another EVM-compatible chain.
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Does the nature of Bitpost not complicate tax compliance for both parties? Typically, businesses sending packages receive invoices from carriers like DHL, which serve as the basis for withdrawing funds from the company account and counting that amount as a business expense. Additionally, employees of such companies are legally employed. How does this work for users and workers within the Bitpost platform?
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On the service providers side, we don’t foresee any significant issues. In most countries, it is legal to acquire cryptocurrencies, whether through mining, receiving airdrops, or earning rewards for completing specific tasks. These tasks could also include transporting Bitpost parcels or engagement in other logistic processes. Taxes are typically applied only at the moment of selling crypto to cash.
However, the absence of formal invoices and the use of cryptocurrency for settlements can introduce unique challenges for business users who want to send orders to their customers using Bitpost. In many countries, a bit of creative accounting might enable businesses to take advantage of decentralized services like Bitpost. Another option could be the emergence of intermediaries registered in favorable jurisdictions who accept payments in fiat currencies, issue invoices for shipping services, and facilitate the ordering of Bitpost services on behalf of their customers. Ultimately, it may also turn out that using Bitpost provides such significant benefits in delivery speed that it is worthwhile to use the platform despite the inability to fully deduct shipping fees as business expenses. So there are numerous possibilities to address this.
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We are happy to answer any questions about this project and ideas behind it. Feel free to ask.
How many developers are working on Bitpost project?
And can you show us some preview, since you are claiming that you have something completed.
It's not as difficult as you think. Check the roadmap on the project website.
I did check the roadmap, that is why I said that I think it's impossible for project like this to start doing anything serious, except maybe at small scales.
First, all smart contract have bunch of bugs, and I can only imagine what would happen with brand new contract that involves real life delivery events.
Second, I don't like network members handling hubs or anything else, decentralization is not a good idea for this.
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How many developers are working on Bitpost project?
There are three developers working on the project.
And can you show us some preview, since you are claiming that you have something completed.
What we can already present is BPX Chain (https://bpxchain.cc (https://bpxchain.cc)), developed by the Bitpost team as both the platform and native currency for Bitpost and related further projects. It’s the world’s first blockchain fully compatible with Ethereum that utilizes hard drives to mine new blocks, consuming only a fraction of the energy required by Proof of Work and sidestepping many of the drawbacks of Proof of Stake systems.
We also have the Bitpost smart contracts nearly completed, but the development of the user interface is still in its early stages. At this moment, I don’t see any way to present this, but in just a few more months, there will be a breakthrough.
First, all smart contract have bunch of bugs, and I can only imagine what would happen with brand new contract that involves real life delivery events.
Of course, bugs are common in any smart contract. But if we avoided innovation due to potential bugs, no new solutions would ever reach the market. Developing new ideas always comes with risks, but we believe that with gradually implementing new features and conducting thorough testing in an isolated environment without any valuable shipments, we can build a reliable system.
Second, I don't like network members handling hubs or anything else, decentralization is not a good idea for this.
Why do you think so? Independence from any centralized entity is, in our opinion, the greatest strength of the entire system.
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There are three developers working on the project.
That is a start.
At this moment, I don’t see any way to present this, but in just a few more months, there will be a breakthrough.
OK, let's see what is going to happen in next few months.
I am following this project for any updates.
Of course, bugs are common in any smart contract. But if we avoided innovation due to potential bugs, no new solutions would ever reach the market. Developing new ideas always comes with risks, but we believe that with gradually implementing new features and conducting thorough testing in an isolated environment without any valuable shipments, we can build a reliable system.
Problem is that you are not only using smart contracts, but you are using totally new blockchain, that means number of bugs can only be higher than on established blockchains.
Why do you think so? Independence from any centralized entity is, in our opinion, the greatest strength of the entire system.
It usually makes thing work slower and less efficient, and with delivery business everyone want's precision and speed.
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Problem is that you are not only using smart contracts, but you are using totally new blockchain, that means number of bugs can only be higher than on established blockchains.
Our blockchain has already undergone over a year of testing. As of today, I can confidently call it a fully mature, battle-tested product.
It usually makes thing work slower and less efficient, and with delivery business everyone want's precision and speed.
There’s no chance that a model designed for unlimited scalability, with almost direct routes and an infinite pool of drivers, could turn out to be slower and less efficient than traditional delivery companies and their practice of transporting all packages to a central sorting facility only once a day.
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Announcement: The BPX Token Bounty Campaign is now live!
Recently, we have launched the mainnet of BPX Chain – an innovative EVM-compatible blockchain designed by the Bitpost team as a platform for Bitpost smart contracts.
To celebrate this important milestone and promote the Bitpost project, we are launching a bounty campaign with an airdrop of 2.500.000 BPX.
Complete daily, weekly, and special quests, earn points and get the native token of BPX Chain completely for free!
More info:
➡️ https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325880.0 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325880.0)
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/airdrop_screenshot-1024x581.png) (https://airdrop.bitpost.cc)
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To celebrate this important milestone and promote the Bitpost project, we are launching a bounty campaign with an airdrop of 2.500.000 BPX.
Who is running this campaign for you?
Is there is any camapign manager or you are doing everything yourself?
This doesn't look like an airdrop to me when you are telling people to promote and write posts everywhere about your project.
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We're running this campaign ourselves. We understand that on forums like this, such campaigns are typically referred to as "bounty," while the term "airdrop" is associated with campaigns requiring no engagement. However, based on our research, most projects tends to use "airdrop" for campaigns like this, while "bounty" is more commonly associated with bug hunting and similar activities. Since this campaign is not limited to this forum but also targets our website and other platforms, we’ve chosen to stick with this terminology. It's also worth noting that we initially posted in the "Bounties & Rewards [BOUNTY]" category, but the moderator moved it to "Airdrops & Giveaways [FREE]."
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We're running this campaign ourselves. We understand that on forums like this, such campaigns are typically referred to as "bounty," while the term "airdrop" is associated with campaigns requiring no engagement. However, based on our research, most projects tends to use "airdrop" for campaigns like this, while "bounty" is more commonly associated with bug hunting and similar activities. Since this campaign is not limited to this forum but also targets our website and other platforms, we’ve chosen to stick with this terminology. It's also worth noting that we initially posted in the "Bounties & Rewards [BOUNTY]" category, but the moderator moved it to "Airdrops & Giveaways [FREE]."
Correct.
You should rename the term Airdrop to Bounty.
If you want to give some of use free tokens without doing any activity than you can call it an Airdrop.
Without doing this I think it sounds misleading coming from someone who wants to build trust and attract people who can invest their coins.
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New Article: Bitpost smart contract subsystems
We’ve published a new blog post on the Bitpost website! This time, we explore the architecture behind the Bitpost smart contracts.
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bitpost-smart-contract-subsystems-bitpost-internals-3/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/internals_sc_subsystems_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/bitpost-smart-contract-subsystems-bitpost-internals-3/)
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Oh, how much infrastructure is needed for this alone, the software solution is perhaps the smallest problem. Plus there are a lot of additional things, customs, taxes, various controls... All this has to be done by people and some kind of token cannot solve it.
Don't ask them to many questions about this, just send them your coins and participate in presale quickly :)
I could be wrong, but I don't see any realistic way for this project to work in next 5 to 10 years, if ever.
$1,200,000 won't change anything, and this project gives me the vibes from 2019/2020 time period.
Don't be in a hurry to advice anyone to participate, any new investors on such project must ask vital questions and search for information before investing. It is therefore necessary to ask about a new project projects presale to to receive good advice from those who knows better about the project developments.
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Don't be in a hurry to advice anyone to participate, any new investors on such project must ask vital questions and search for information before investing. It is therefore necessary to ask about a new project projects presale to to receive good advice from those who knows better about the project developments.
I didn't give anyone any advices to participate in this or in any other presale campaigns, you could see that if you read my conversations with OP.
20 days left for Bitpost presale to end and I dont see bar moving at all or target being reached :)
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Development Update: Bitpost Version Manager has been deployed
The first Bitpost smart contracts has been completed, tested, and successfully deployed on the blockchain.
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bitpost-version-manager-has-been-deployed-development-update-1/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/vm_deployed_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/bitpost-version-manager-has-been-deployed-development-update-1/)
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Development Update: BPG Token has been deployed
Bitpost Governance Token (BPG) has been successfully deployed on the BPX Chain mainnet.
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bpg-token-has-been-deployed-development-update-2/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/bpg_deployed_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/bpg-token-has-been-deployed-development-update-2/)
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Announcement: BPG Token has been launched! Minting and distribution
Bitpost Governance Token is now live! In line with the roadmap, the entire supply was minted and distributed to the initial community members.
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/bpg-token-has-been-launched-minting-and-distribution/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/bpg_launch_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/bpg-token-has-been-launched-minting-and-distribution/)
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Announcement: 2.5M BPX distributed to participants – BPX Airdrop completed
We are excited to announce that the BPX Token Airdrop campaign has officially concluded, and the reward pool of 2,500,000 BPX has been distributed to all participants based on the points they earned!
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/2-5m-bpx-distributed-to-participants-bpx-airdrop-completed/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/airdrop_completed_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/2-5m-bpx-distributed-to-participants-bpx-airdrop-completed/)
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We are excited to announce that the BPX Token Airdrop campaign has officially concluded, and the reward pool of 2,500,000 BPX has been distributed to all participants based on the points they earned!
Is there any rich list we can find for some BPX token explorer?
I would like to see current coin distribution and who owns the most coins, that is if everyone already received their share of coins.
I know this is separate BPX Chain blockchain but I couldn't find any explorer links on website.
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Of course! There is a block explorer for BPX Chain: https://explorer.bpxchain.cc (https://explorer.bpxchain.cc).
You can find the full list of BPX coin holders here: https://explorer.bpxchain.cc/accounts (https://explorer.bpxchain.cc/accounts).
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Of course! There is a block explorer for BPX Chain: https://explorer.bpxchain.cc (https://explorer.bpxchain.cc).
You can find the full list of BPX coin holders here: https://explorer.bpxchain.cc/accounts (https://explorer.bpxchain.cc/accounts).
You should create and add pie chart and percentage for top token holders, but I already see that first few addresses hold big majority of tokens.
I think we can all assume those coins are controlled by Bipost team and people connected with them.
Only 694 addresses and totall of 697 transactions doesn't sound very good.
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decentralized logistics? Does this mean that all privacy and data security between sender and recipient are truly kept confidential? Then how can we ensure that this happens? Isn't it very necessary for the delivery of goods to make the data public?
if there are no other special features that can attract market attention, and fail to compete with existing large companies, sometimes the logistics business is a bit tough... what makes Bitpost different from DHL or FedEx?
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You should create and add pie chart and percentage for top token holders, but I already see that first few addresses hold big majority of tokens.
I think we can all assume those coins are controlled by Bipost team and people connected with them.
To clarify, only two addresses from the TOP50 are controlled by us. We hold approximately 14% of all circulating coins: the official prefarm transparently disclosed on the project’s website (20M BPX), and coins either mined using physical hardware under the same rules as everyone else or acquired through buybacks from the market (around 5.5M BPX). The current total supply is approximately 182M BPX, which accounts for the mentioned percentage.
decentralized logistics? Does this mean that all privacy and data security between sender and recipient are truly kept confidential?
Bitpost offers a flexible approach to privacy protection. On one hand, you can send a package in a way that allows the entire world to track its entire journey with an accuracy of just a few meters. On the other hand, two individuals can exchange packages while remaining completely anonymous to each other, as well as to members of the Bitpost network or any third parties.
This second model operates much like the Tor network, adapted for physical parcels instead of internet packets. Each participant in the delivery chain knows only where the package came from and where to send it next, but no one knows its entire route.
Then how can we ensure that this happens? Isn't it very necessary for the delivery of goods to make the data public?
Of course, some data must be processed publicly. On the public blockchain, you’ll find records indicating that a package with a specific identifier was picked up by a courier, delivered to a sorting hub, or received by the recipient. However, these records do not disclose any locations or identify the parties involved.
what makes Bitpost different from DHL or FedEx?
We are working on a detailed article about this topic, which will be released in a few days. I’ll share the link here once it's live. In the meantime, check the Motivations section in the Bitpost white paper (https://bitpost.cc/whitepaper.pdf).
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To clarify, only two addresses from the TOP50 are controlled by us. We hold approximately 14% of all circulating coins: the official prefarm transparently disclosed on the project’s website (20M BPX), and coins either mined using physical hardware under the same rules as everyone else or acquired through buybacks from the market (around 5.5M BPX). The current total supply is approximately 182M BPX, which accounts for the mentioned percentage.
I understand, but you should add some information in explorer to clearly show addresses you as a team owns.
Premined or prefarmed coins are obviously not the same as coins mined/farmed in regular way, but from what I see this is some type of modified chia Proof of Space and Time.
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Oh my god, are people actually buying this? I mean the story, not the coin?
"Global logistic network", yeah right, I'm willing to bet nobody in your team has a clue about logistics, so here are some head-ups why this will not work even in theory, and this format guy with a decade in the field
- customs, you need the receiver name to pick and pay the parcels, nowhere in the universe would a stranger be allowed to do this
- in all the western world carrying goods for other people demands recipes and authorization, have fun getting those while anonymous
- nobody is going to insure this thing, never ever!!!!!
- logistics is about efficiency, sending parcels one by one with different carriers and so on will make the whole thing expensive as hell, things work because a guy delivers a hundred packets a day, who do you think will deliver a package out of his way for 50 cents?
- you have no idea what a sorting hub is and how big and how many people work in it, your presale is what 1.2 million? Our latest hub was worth 60 million just in construction. with 1.2 million you won't even buy the land for one
-For home deliveries, Bitpost maximizes the privacy of both the sender's and recipient's addresses.
How the hell would you preserve privacy when you just said it in your whitepaper that everyone can see the orders, so everyone will know there is a package coming this guy to that guy? :D
The whole thing is just ridiculous, and of course, we don't have a single picture of an actual "hub" or anything like that.
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- customs, you need the receiver name to pick and pay the parcels, nowhere in the universe would a stranger be allowed to do this
The philosophy of Bitpost is to remain outside traditional systems rather than integrate into them. Just as no decentralized blockchain enforces KYC/AML procedures or reports tax data to authorities - despite all traditional financial services being required to do so - Bitpost similarly does not recognize the concept of borders or customs. The only thing that matters is whether someone can offer to transport a parcel between specified geographic coordinates, and if so, at what price. How they manage to do so if the route crosses a border with customs regulations is their individual matter. If no one is interested in providing such a service, connections between certain areas are simply unavailable, resulting in an error when attempting to ship a parcel. Until someone comes up with a viable way to do it and starts earning from it.
- in all the western world carrying goods for other people demands recipes and authorization, have fun getting those while anonymous
That may be true for heavy truck drivers doing their job professionally, but I don’t think that anywhere, transporting a few dozen parcels by a private individual in a personal passenger car or van, which isn’t part of their profession, requires any special permits or authorization. If I'm wrong, could you provide some examples where this could be an issue?
- nobody is going to insure this thing, never ever!!!!!
True, just like all other things related to crypto. But the lack of traditional insurance doesn't stop decentralized solutions from working - there are different ways of providing trust and security. Smart contracts can do everything that insurance does.
- logistics is about efficiency, sending parcels one by one with different carriers and so on will make the whole thing expensive as hell, things work because a guy delivers a hundred packets a day, who do you think will deliver a package out of his way for 50 cents?
Nobody has to deliver a single package out of their way. The same principles of efficiency apply here, scaled down in both profits and costs. A driver can focus on a specific district or city, consolidating several parcels before setting out on their route. While they may not have a hundred packages to deliver, the distances are also shorter, and smaller vehicles with lower fuel consumption make the process more cost-effective.
Not to mention that traditional couriers drive exclusively to transport parcels, whereas Bitpost drivers can integrate these transports with trips they would be taking anyway. For example, if you're going on vacation, you could fill your trunk with parcels from a hub in your city and deliver them to a hub 300 km away. You might only recover half the cost of your fuel, but that's still a win because you’d be taking that trip regardless of Bitpost.
And let’s not forget there are customers ready to pay significantly more for ultra-fast delivery, for example, knowing that an order placed from an online store on Friday afternoon can arrive the same day within three hours instead of waiting until after the weekend.
- you have no idea what a sorting hub is and how big and how many people work in it, your presale is what 1.2 million? Our latest hub was worth 60 million just in construction. with 1.2 million you won't even buy the land for one
Rather it seems like you don't fully understand what Bitpost is about.
The 1.2 million presale will be more than enough for robust marketing, exchange listings, and hiring additional coders and graphic designers. But we have absolutely no need to buy any land or build anything.
The essence of this project lies in the sharing economy and the utilization of existing resources. For example, you could have a small shop in the city center. You register it as a Bitpost hub and allow couriers to drop off parcels they have in their vehicle right there. While there are no customers, you sort the parcels, and then they are picked up by other couriers who continue their journey to the next hubs, which could also be anything: other shops, hotels, gas stations, or even private homes.
You open such a hub with no investment and no operational costs, and in just a minute. If something doesn’t suit you, you close it just as quickly. There could be 10 hubs in a small town and 20 in the neighboring one. Their combined throughput could match that of a logistics center worth 60 million, generating massive costs and bureaucratic hurdles.
How the hell would you preserve privacy when you just said it in your whitepaper that everyone can see the orders, so everyone will know there is a package coming this guy to that guy? :D
It's simpler than you think!
For first/last mile delivery: you send a shipment announcement with the approximate pickup location only to couriers in your area. Once a courier accepts the assignment, you share the exact pickup location exclusively with them. The courier doesn’t need to know the recipient of the package; their task is simply to drop it off at the nearest hub.
For routes between hubs: Hub X publishes an announcement saying it has 15 parcels to be transported to Hub Y. It doesn’t reveal who the parcels are from or to, or any other details.
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How they manage to do so if the route crosses a border with customs regulations is their individual matter. If no one is interested in providing such a service, connections between certain areas are simply unavailable, resulting in an error when attempting to ship a parcel. Until someone comes up with a viable way to do it and starts earning from it.
You can't expect any serious service to work long term with that kind of strange policy.
Crossing borders and dealing with customs is very serious business and you can depend on someone doing tricks with this.
And international shipping is very complicated business, especially for long distances.
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When I saw that wall of text I said to myself, what a load fo crap I would have to debunk here, but reading it, my god, reminds me of the audacity scammers in 2017 had
Bitpost similarly does not recognize the concept of borders or customs.
Probably in your brain it's hard to comprehend the concept of customs, but they are the ones holding the packages, it's their rules, you can't recognize the velocity, mass and existence of a train but please go on the tracks and tell us what happens.
That may be true for heavy truck drivers doing their job professionally, but I don’t think that anywhere, transporting a few dozen parcels by a private individual in a personal passenger car or van, which isn’t part of their profession, requires any special permits or authorization.
Yeah, please do that in the states and when the police stops you you have ten parcels with different names on it, so most likely you will end up in detention for 24 hours on suspicion of being a porch pirate, the parcels will be confiscated and the owners can kiss the goodbye.
Also who would be dumb enough to carry around parcels they don't have a clue what's in that might be full of drugs. Good luck explaining to the police you were carrying this from one PO box to another, lol.
Anyhow we all know this is a scam and this will never be even tested, you're in for the money grab and after one month you will disappear and the project will be done for.
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Development Update: The Zone Isolation subsystem has been deployed
The next batch of Bitpost smart contracts is now live on the blockchain. This time, we successfully deployed the Zone Isolation subsystem, making another component of the platform on track for the launch.
Read more:
➡️ https://bitpost.cc/the-zone-isolation-subsystem-has-been-deployed-development-update-3/
(https://bitpost.cc/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/zi_deployed_wordpress-1536x854.jpg) (https://bitpost.cc/the-zone-isolation-subsystem-has-been-deployed-development-update-3/)
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You can't expect any serious service to work long term with that kind of strange policy.
Crossing borders and dealing with customs is very serious business and you can depend on someone doing tricks with this.
I’m sorry, but this is the only approach truly aligned with our libertarian visions.
Bitcoin doesn't enforce KYC/AML procedures.
Uniswap does not block tokens that are widely known to be scams.
BitTorrent and IPFS do not remove pirated content.
Tor does not block websites selling drugs.
So Bitpost won’t force anyone to comply with customs regulations. Don't treat Bitpost as a business, but as a decentralized protocol, like the ones mentioned above.
And one more thing: we will finish and release this project in the form we believe it should take. But after that, governance will be entrusted to the community. If the majority wants different rules, they can change them even on the very first day after the launch, and we won't be able to stop it.
Yeah, please do that in the states and when the police stops you you have ten parcels with different names on it, so most likely you will end up in detention for 24 hours on suspicion of being a porch pirate, the parcels will be confiscated and the owners can kiss the goodbye.
I don’t live in the USA, I can’t verify this with full certainty. However, based on all the research our team have done on the topic, I think you’re overestimating the situation.
Moreover, Bitpost shipments don’t have personal details of different individuals on the label. They have the Bitpost logo and a pair of cryptographic keys in the form of QR codes. That could make a big difference in this case.
Anyhow we all know this is a scam and this will never be even tested, you're in for the money grab and after one month you will disappear and the project will be done for.
As you mentioned, if this were a scam, it would have been clear within a month. But let me give you a few facts about the Bitpost project to set the record straight:
1. Our website has been live since December 13, 2021 (!!!).
https://who.is/whois/bitpost.cc (https://who.is/whois/bitpost.cc)
2. Our GitHub account was created on December 14, 2021.
https://github.com/BitpostNetwork?tab=overview&from=2021-12-01&to=2021-12-31 (https://github.com/BitpostNetwork?tab=overview&from=2021-12-01&to=2021-12-31)
3. Our Twitter account was launched in December 2022.
https://x.com/BitpostNetwork (https://x.com/BitpostNetwork)
4. We spent over a year developing, testing, and debugging our custom blockchain, created specifically for Bitpost, which is now live and has active users.
https://bpxchain.cc (https://bpxchain.cc)
As you can see, we’ve spent years working behind the scenes on this project, and we’ve only gone public recently because now we’re almost there.
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I’m sorry, but this is the only approach truly aligned with our libertarian visions.
And everyone earning money from service not obeying regulations will get in trouble in your place, think how Uber works, the moment they try to bypass some of those they get kicked out of the country.
Don't treat Bitpost as a business, but as a decentralized protocol, like the ones mentioned above.
You can call yourself whatever you want, you can call yourself protocol or elephant as long as there are people working with you and making money and you provide a service you're a business.
I don’t live in the USA, I can’t verify this with full certainty.
3 years of research and you haven't checked this, lol
1. Our website has been live since December 13, 2021 (!!!).
Good, means you have never been able to scam anyone with meaningful sums since you have been selling this token since 2022 without a single thing being made:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221204123002/https://bitpost.cc/
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I’m sorry, but this is the only approach truly aligned with our libertarian visions.
Wtf this even means? :o
Bitcoin doesn't enforce KYC/AML procedures.
Bitcooin is just a protocol, it can't enforce anything.
People enforce KYC procedures on you everyday including connected with Bitcoin.
Uniswap does not block tokens that are widely known to be scams.
One of the worst platform made for scams, and developers who created it enforced censorship.
BitTorrent and IPFS do not remove pirated content.
Tor does not block websites selling drugs.
Totally unrelated with what I wrote.
I also know people selling cocaine, crack, and kill each other every day, also totally unrelated.
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And everyone earning money from service not obeying regulations will get in trouble in your place, think how Uber works, the moment they try to bypass some of those they get kicked out of the country.
That's exactly why decentralization is needed. Uber is a regular centralized company. One wrong move, and their headquarters will be raided, the board of directors arrested, bank accounts frozen, and servers disconnected from the network. Good luck trying to do the same with a truly decentralized service like Bitpost.
You can call yourself whatever you want, you can call yourself protocol or elephant as long as there are people working with you and making money and you provide a service you're a business.
We don't provide a service - it operates on its own. We could be gone the day after launching it, and it wouldn't affect its operation. We have no way of shutting it down or changing the established rules. We can't decide who can work for Bitpost or who will be fired. We earn from its operation under the same conditions as an ordinary user, nothing more. That’s why I don’t agree that this is a business.
Good, means you have never been able to scam anyone with meaningful sums since you have been selling this token since 2022 without a single thing being made:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221204123002/https://bitpost.cc/
You’re confusing the BPX token, which is mined on physical hardware and tradable on the open market, with the BPG token, which is subject to the presale, but that’s beside the point. If the long track record of the project doesn’t convince you, why do you think it’s a scam and believe we won’t deliver a working application?
I’m sorry, but this is the only approach truly aligned with our libertarian visions.
Wtf this even means? :o
It means that, like most decentralized solutions, we want the Bitpost protocol to remain agnostic to government-imposed regulations and focus solely on what’s physically feasible.
For instance, sending a parcel from Buenos Aires to Beijing through a giant tunnel straight through the Earth is simply impossible - that’s why Bitpost routes shipments along the Earth's surface. However, crossing a border without going through customs clearance is technically possible - so that’s allowed.
You might make arrangements with your customer and politely go through customs, or transport packages one by one with a remote-controlled vehicle through a forested section of the border in the middle of the night. It’s not up to Bitpost to decide whether you should or shouldn’t do it.
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Are there any updates and new developments with Bitpost?
I visited your website and checked the roadmap that is claiming Bitpost smart contracts deployment should happen in March of 2025.
There are other plans in next few months but I won't go there until I see what happens next month.
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For instance, sending a parcel from Buenos Aires to Beijing through a giant tunnel straight through the Earth is simply impossible - that’s why Bitpost routes shipments along the Earth's surface. However, crossing a border without going through customs clearance is technically possible - so that’s allowed.
So this scammer once faced with the actual question of how his wanna be scam would even be able to function has found the solution.
Make everyone who is using the service a criminal, and turn this service into a mule operation that runs like cartels do so, police would have a field day ordering stuff through your customers and then picking them up one by one and throwing them in jail on at least three felony counts.
I wonder what morons would buy into such a scam that has zero proof of anything being done other than a bunch of text written by a 12yo who doesn't know shit about laws and commerce and a one-page website.
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Are there any updates and new developments with Bitpost?
I visited your website and checked the roadmap that is claiming Bitpost smart contracts deployment should happen in March of 2025.
Currently we’re doing a final review and testing of the most complex module, which handles the majority of the project's logic (hubs, couriers, service areas, connections). Everything is on schedule, and we don’t anticipate any delays. Some peripheral contracts have already been deployed.
Make everyone who is using the service a criminal, and turn this service into a mule operation that runs like cartels do so, police would have a field day ordering stuff through your customers and then picking them up one by one and throwing them in jail on at least three felony counts.
But no one is being forced or even encouraged to do it. If someone chooses to provide such a service (transporting packages across the border while avoiding customs) it’s entirely their own decision, fully aware of the risks involved. Most people will use Bitpost simply to get their online orders delivered faster within the same country.
I wonder what morons would buy into such a scam that has zero proof of anything being done other than a bunch of text written by a 12yo who doesn't know shit about laws and commerce and a one-page website.
You've called our project a scam so many times. Have you already thought about what you'll say when, one day, in just a few months, I post a link to the fully functional Bitpost app right here in this thread?
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This topic looks very silent and without news, even on social media nothing was posted since January.
Is Bitpost and member BitpostNetwork alive?
And when can we start revolutionary ordering and delivery of goods around the world using bitpost?? :D
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Bitpost is doing great! We're not posting any updates lately because, in just a moment, our website will be completely replaced with a brand-new one. The current site was created a long time ago, more as a placeholder when we weren't even sure if this project would take off. Now, there will be much more content across multiple subpages, and visually, it finally has its own unique character, shouting loud and clear that we're here to break free from corporations - not follow their trends. Apart from that, we're sticking to the roadmap, and work on the smart contracts is ongoing. There will be a slight delay, but nothing major. It’s just that better ideas for some things came up during the process.