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Title: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: TomPluz on October 09, 2024, 09:21:37 AM

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HBO’s documentary “Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery“ surprised the cryptocurrency community by claiming that Peter Todd, a Canadian software developer and former core member of the Bitcoin Core project, is the creator of Bitcoin.

The film, directed by the talented Cullen Hoback, is based on in-depth interviews with Todd and valuable data gathered from the cypherpunk community.

However, shortly after this revelation, Peter Todd quickly refuted the claim. He stated that it was simply “a rushed attempt to connect vague pieces” by director Hoback, and he did not hesitate to point out the inconsistencies in the film’s argument.


Taken from here... (https://azc.news/peter-todd-denies-being-satoshi-nakamoto-id29385/)

I have not yet watched this HBO documentary but on the surface of things it looks like the people behind this piece are just desperate to whom they can point their fingers as to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, if Peter Todd who has vehemently denied already that he is the one, can then move the wallets ascribed to Satoshi then he can surely be the one.

What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?



 


Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: hugeblack on October 09, 2024, 10:18:08 AM
Peter Todd himself denied that he is Satoshi, so I don't think there is a possibility that he is Satoshi. The mysterious Satoshi identity will be the subject of intense debate as Bitcoin becomes more successful, and we may never know who Satoshi is, and there is a possibility that Satoshi is a group of developers, not just one developer. Anyone who wants to settle the debate simply has to sign a message from one of the addresses used by Satoshi.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ABCbits on October 09, 2024, 11:43:19 AM
What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?

As expected, HBO provide very weak proof. It even reminds of what Newsweek did to Dorian Nakamoto. So i believe he'll remain one of many proposed candidate without strong or solid proof.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: philipma1957 on October 09, 2024, 02:33:47 PM

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HBO’s documentary “Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery“ surprised the cryptocurrency community by claiming that Peter Todd, a Canadian software developer and former core member of the Bitcoin Core project, is the creator of Bitcoin.

The film, directed by the talented Cullen Hoback, is based on in-depth interviews with Todd and valuable data gathered from the cypherpunk community.

However, shortly after this revelation, Peter Todd quickly refuted the claim. He stated that it was simply “a rushed attempt to connect vague pieces” by director Hoback, and he did not hesitate to point out the inconsistencies in the film’s argument.


Taken from here... (https://azc.news/peter-todd-denies-being-satoshi-nakamoto-id29385/)

I have not yet watched this HBO documentary but on the surface of things it looks like the people behind this piece are just desperate to whom they can point their fingers as to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, if Peter Todd who has vehemently denied already that he is the one, can then move the wallets ascribed to Satoshi then he can surely be the one.

What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?
Lets pretend he is.
Lets pretend he controls 1,000,000 plus btc

That is over 60,000,000,000  sixty billion plus.


Not sure I would admit I own 60 billion dollars in btc.

Remember there are different tax laws all around the world.

At this moment in time the USA does not tax unrealized gains. So if Trump wins you can sit on the coin and not worry about cap gains tax.

If Harris gets in and passes an unrealized cap gains tax on unrealized gains he may have to cash in about 250,000 btc to pay that tax.

So there is no way he will admit the coins are his before the upcoming USA election.

By the way once in a while a block of those old coins gets cashed out. More power to whoever invented it.

But I am thinking if the guys alive and the coins are unlock-able the guy will wait longer and every once in a while just peel off a block of 50.

50 coins is 3,000,000  plus I think two old blocks were cashed out this year so far.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: God Of Thunder on October 09, 2024, 03:25:23 PM
Lets pretend he is.
Lets pretend he controls 1,000,000 plus btc

That is over 60,000,000,000  sixty billion plus.

Not sure I would admit I own 60 billion dollars in btc.

Remember there are different tax laws all around the world.

I don't think this could be the only reason to deny he is not Satoshi.
The reaso that is that he is Not Satoshi. If he wanted to prewas Satoshi, hetoshi, he could simply say he is Satoshi, but lost the seed phrases of hi,s wallets, and he does not own that Bitcoin anymore. But he does not want to lie like CSW and other Faketoshi's. I am glad he did admit that he is not Satoshi.

theymos himself thinks there is a possibility that Hal finney was satoshi. He gives a 35% chance out of a hundred and his recent statement says that. He also said that he is moving to this possibility as time goes by. It is not easy to be hidden and without moving a single bitcoin if he was alive.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 09, 2024, 07:07:28 PM
I have not yet watched this HBO documentary but on the surface of things it looks like the people behind this piece are just desperate to whom they can point their fingers as to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, if Peter Todd who has vehemently denied already that he is the one, can then move the wallets ascribed to Satoshi then he can surely be the one.

What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?
This is my first time hearing about Todd as a potential Satoshi. I've never considered him a viable candidate. HBO can fabricate all sorts of conspiracies to draw in viewers, but convincing the crypto community of their theory will be a tough sell.

I believe the community doesn't need to know Satoshi true identity. Anonymity is part of BTC's value proposition as it prevents the creation of a central figure vulnerable to government pressures. HBO documentary might introduce BTC to a wider pool of potential investors. I even suspect that crypto whales might have funded this project to induce FOMO.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: electronicash on October 09, 2024, 07:35:21 PM

If Harris gets in and passes an unrealized cap gains tax on unrealized gains he may have to cash in about 250,000 btc to pay that tax.


there's the motivation in finding Satoshi and for Harris to win too.

but sure even if Todd is Satoshi, he will really deny himself because of the laws that will tie him down for unleashing  dangerous technology such as blockchain.  ;D
in fact Satoshi should be afraid to come out.

i don't even see Trump cancelling that unrealized gains law if he finds out Satoshi is just a click way or maybe he could just accuse Satoshi of leading a revolution against fiat system.  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 09, 2024, 09:09:39 PM
There is no possible way they actually think Peter is satoshi, they are doing this for sole marketing purposes and nothing more. Saying they figured out who real satoshi is would make this watched more, and even though I am telling you already that this is a lie and Peter isn't satoshi and even go further and say they can't possible find it, we all know some people will still watch it and give it the viewership it needs. So all in all, they achieved what they wanted to achieve and there is no correct information here. Peter isn't satoshi, and some HBO crew can't find who the satoshi is, not going to happen.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Z-tight on October 09, 2024, 10:41:05 PM
Even HBO truly knows that Peter Todd isn't Satoshi and i believe they are making this fake discovery for viewers and engagement from the crypto community, which is large by the way. Peter Todd already denied the claims very quickly, which is a wise thing to do, so that people don't start haunting him with questions about if he is Satoshi or not.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Zed0X on October 09, 2024, 11:16:38 PM
Even HBO truly knows that Peter Todd isn't Satoshi and i believe they are making this fake discovery for viewers and engagement from the crypto community, which is large by the way.
I guess that could be the case. Even if Peter denies it (and assuming that he's not), the real Satoshi will never come out from years of hiding just to disprove the HBO claim. Good money-making for them because their documentary will continue to be aired and give them $.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: robelneo on October 09, 2024, 11:50:13 PM
Congratulation to HBO, not because they've uncovered who Nakamoto is but because they made money out of Satoshi Nakamoto. Because of this, many people will be more curious to see why HBO chooses Peter Todd to choose Nakamoto and if they really have strong evidence pointing to Peter as the real Satoshi Nakamoto , I hope I can see the documentary through some leaks, but I will still stick to Netflix
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: joniboini on October 10, 2024, 02:11:03 AM
I hope I can see the documentary through some leaks, but I will still stick to Netflix
Do you think Netflix will jump on this and make their documentary? I don't really trust Netflix for high-quality documentaries anymore, I think some Youtubers make better-documented research than them. Granted they probably have to do that since they need to watch out for more stuff because they have investors or sponsors.

Even if they want to make a documentary about satoshi, I'd like to see other questions being explored other than the usual "who is satoshi" where people put rumors and screenshots as proof.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: KingsDen on October 10, 2024, 02:22:07 AM
I have a question
I have 3 scenarios here;

Who is likely to be the real Satoshi Nakamato?
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: hugeblack on October 10, 2024, 04:38:09 AM
Congratulation to HBO, not because they've uncovered who Nakamoto is but because they made money out of Satoshi Nakamoto.
Frankly, it was clear that if they had confirmed information about Satoshi, they would not have waited for a documentary to be made about it, and if Peter Todd had not sued them, such hypotheses would most likely have continued for a long time.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 10, 2024, 04:58:25 AM
Lets pretend he is.
Lets pretend he controls 1,000,000 plus btc

That is over 60,000,000,000  sixty billion plus.
even if peter todd really is satoshi i do understand that he would want to deny it because then if his identity is revealed bitcoin won’t be as decentralized anymore as we can pinpoint a central figure in the name of satoshi but I genuinely believe that he is telling the truth and that he is indeed not satoshi

satoshi is a smart person i just do not think his identity will be identified as easy as hbo has done but anyway we might never know who satoshi is and we need to let this discussion go because revealing his identity will do more harm to him and bitcoin than good
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: terrific on October 10, 2024, 05:49:49 AM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: Stompix on October 10, 2024, 06:33:18 AM
theymos himself thinks there is a possibility that Hal finney was satoshi. He gives a 35% chance out of a hundred and his recent statement says that. He also said that he is moving to this possibility as time goes by.

Theymos was quite late to the party compared to others, he only exchanged a few private messages with Satoshi and all were basic stuff, so he didn't know more than anyone who could read the forum, and even less than the people active in 2009. So I would take his hunches with a grain of salt!

I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

He has no chance of winning a dime, just as Dorian Nakamoto back in the day!
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 10, 2024, 09:08:20 AM
I'm already coming to a point where nobody will stop investing until they find who Satoshi is/are.  :-X :-X

Many pinpointed different people on who Satoshi is and all of them denied it "EXCEPT" for one which is Fake-toshi Craig S. Wright which right now we know that he isn't Satoshi, but he's Faketo-shit. Anyway, this kind of claims from the early adopters of Bitcoin and those expert in cryptography might affect their life because of this kind of things. I mean if you got pinpointed by some random people out there and he claimed that you're Satoshi, they might come to you and ask those Bitcoins.

When they will stop investigating?  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: NotATether on October 10, 2024, 09:23:54 AM
So wait a minute here, HBO wasted hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say that some Bitcoiner is Satoshi Nakamoto, who even denies being him?  ;D

You wonder whether streaming companies nowadays have so much money that they can just produce whatever trash they want without affecting their bottom lines, well there's your answer. Lmao.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ABCbits on October 10, 2024, 12:54:41 PM
I hope I can see the documentary through some leaks, but I will still stick to Netflix
Do you think Netflix will jump on this and make their documentary? I don't really trust Netflix for high-quality documentaries anymore, I think some Youtubers make better-documented research than them. Granted they probably have to do that since they need to watch out for more stuff because they have investors or sponsors.

Even if they want to make a documentary about satoshi, I'd like to see other questions being explored other than the usual "who is satoshi" where people put rumors and screenshots as proof.

Does Netflix actually make their own shows? I seem to recall they actually give money to the creator in order to get label "Netflix exclusive" or "Netflix original".

So wait a minute here, HBO wasted hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say that some Bitcoiner is Satoshi Nakamoto, who even denies being him?  ;D

You wonder whether streaming companies nowadays have so much money that they can just produce whatever trash they want without affecting their bottom lines, well there's your answer. Lmao.

I simply agree. I wonder how many people actually pay for HBO subscription to watch their "documentary", when i don't even bother looking for pirated version.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: NotATether on October 10, 2024, 01:56:33 PM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

He has no chance of winning a dime, just as Dorian Nakamoto back in the day!

God forbid if his house does get burglarized then he will have an actual claim against HBO for a settlement (but we all know money cannot fix calamities that's right even if you HODLed it since 2014 then you can't get everything you want Certainly not peace of mind, for example).

I simply agree. I wonder how many people actually pay for HBO subscription to watch their "documentary", when i don't even bother looking for pirated version.

Nobody pays for any streaming subscription, at least not the ones who know how to get pirated movies and TV shows.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Gurujebs on October 10, 2024, 02:26:17 PM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

Exactly what I just said in of the thread of HBO Satoshi documentary. If he doesn't sue them, another company will be around the cornet making claims that another person create Bitcoin and all for what? It's nothing but traffic because since last week they made that announcement, the company premium accounts will have double just to view that videos.

Not only HBO will make money from this, other content creators especially YouTubers that are finding it difficult to make money from bull run will use this to trend, they will even design some thumbnails just to make it look real. It's hight time this Satoshi false news come to an end.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: God Of Thunder on October 10, 2024, 02:55:41 PM
Theymos was quite late to the party compared to others, he only exchanged a few private messages with Satoshi and all were basic stuff, so he didn't know more than anyone who could read the forum, and even less than the people active in 2009. So I would take his hunches with a grain of salt!

Probably yes. I would agree with you. But I feel like he could know a little more than just an average forum member. If he decides not to reveal anything related to Satoshi, he may know, we cannot do anything, and we don't know if he really knows something or not. I don't remember where I read that, but theymos had IP logs of satoshi's account which he wanted to a decade later. But we haven't heard anything from him lately regarding this matter. We don't know if Satoshi accessed his account with TOR. Probably the IP logs are nothing but just from the Tor browser IP. But, I don't want to deny the fact that he may know something which we don't know. So, when he gives a statement, I guess people care about it.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: robelneo on October 10, 2024, 08:14:47 PM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

I think he should; he will likely become a target with 1 million Bitcoin in your wallet You don't want to be Satoshi Nakamoto at this point and since HBO puts him in spotlight,, all eyes are on him now based on the evidence presented by HBO he needs to explain and refute HBO evidence and if he can successfully do that he can ask for possible damages if there is, on the contrary many people want to be called Satoshi Nakamoto who just loss his private keys to his wallet.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: KingsDen on October 10, 2024, 11:39:26 PM
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all eyes are on him now based on the evidence presented by HBO he needs to explain and refute HBO evidence and if he can successfully do that he can ask for possible damages if there is, on the contrary many people want to be called Satoshi Nakamoto who just loss his private keys to his wallet.
Wait, did HBO present such a compelling evidence to be refuted? I thought this is an ordinary clout chasing, if they came up with striking evidences, it's something to be worried about.
How do I get this documentary? Is it available for public consumption? Or is it leaked, I need to read and make informed opinions.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Zed0X on October 10, 2024, 11:54:30 PM
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all eyes are on him now based on the evidence presented by HBO he needs to explain and refute HBO evidence and if he can successfully do that he can ask for possible damages if there is, on the contrary many people want to be called Satoshi Nakamoto who just loss his private keys to his wallet.
Wait, did HBO present such a compelling evidence to be refuted? I thought this is an ordinary clout chasing, if they came up with striking evidences, it's something to be worried about.
How do I get this documentary? Is it available for public consumption? Or is it leaked, I need to read and make informed opinions.
Why would you be worried if there are evidences pointing that it's him?

You'll have to be subscribed to watch the full documentary I guess. If you'll wait for the leaks, it will probably in the dark web or in a private group. I'm sure they will be quick to take down all videos posted on mainstream social media platforms.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Stompix on October 11, 2024, 05:32:57 AM
So wait a minute here, HBO wasted hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say that some Bitcoiner is Satoshi Nakamoto, who even denies being him?  ;D

And made millions!
They made everyone talk about it, they made every crypto lover at last watch trailers if not the actual movie on subscription, and the talk about the movie was tending everywhere from TikTok conspiracies to Tweets and created 40 million in betting volume on Polymarket!
Do you still think they've 'wasted' money?
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: yhiaali3 on October 11, 2024, 06:44:59 AM
In fact, the HBO documentary did not surprise the Bitcoin community, but rather upset and disgusted them, as many tweeted on the X platform. This documentary was below par and was terribly disappointing given the huge media hype it received before its release.

Even Peter Todd, who they claimed to be Satoshi, vehemently denied the accusation and criticized HBO and director Colin Hoback, accusing him of putting his life in danger as a result of this irresponsible film.

It is clear that their goal is fame and to get some money.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: ABCbits on October 11, 2024, 12:42:35 PM
I simply agree. I wonder how many people actually pay for HBO subscription to watch their "documentary", when i don't even bother looking for pirated version.

Nobody pays for any streaming subscription, at least not the ones who know how to get pirated movies and TV shows.

Not fully true though. I've some people with capability to pirate digital content, but still decide to subscribe since they feel it's cheap or convenient enough.

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all eyes are on him now based on the evidence presented by HBO he needs to explain and refute HBO evidence and if he can successfully do that he can ask for possible damages if there is, on the contrary many people want to be called Satoshi Nakamoto who just loss his private keys to his wallet.
Wait, did HBO present such a compelling evidence to be refuted? I thought this is an ordinary clout chasing, if they came up with striking evidences, it's something to be worried about.

HBO actually provided weak proof. But some people will trust it anyway.

How do I get this documentary? Is it available for public consumption? Or is it leaked, I need to read and make informed opinions.

AFAIK the only legal option is subscribe to HBO, although i believe you're just wasting your money and privacy that way. But you can easily find it on pirated movie/TV show website.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: philipma1957 on October 11, 2024, 02:27:31 PM
I hope I can see the documentary through some leaks, but I will still stick to Netflix
Do you think Netflix will jump on this and make their documentary? I don't really trust Netflix for high-quality documentaries anymore, I think some Youtubers make better-documented research than them. Granted they probably have to do that since they need to watch out for more stuff because they have investors or sponsors.

Even if they want to make a documentary about satoshi, I'd like to see other questions being explored other than the usual "who is satoshi" where people put rumors and screenshots as proof.

Does Netflix actually make their own shows? I seem to recall they actually give money to the creator in order to get label "Netflix exclusive" or "Netflix original".

So wait a minute here, HBO wasted hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say that some Bitcoiner is Satoshi Nakamoto, who even denies being him?  ;D

You wonder whether streaming companies nowadays have so much money that they can just produce whatever trash they want without affecting their bottom lines, well there's your answer. Lmao.

I simply agree. I wonder how many people actually pay for HBO subscription to watch their "documentary", when i don't even bother looking for pirated version.

They (Netflix) have a huge studio near me. A former Army base in Monmouth County NJ.

So if you provide money a studio and cameras. Saying you made it may be partially true but not completely.

As for Peter Todd being satoshi he could be, so he will need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. Worse maybe he does not even have a few hundred bitcoins. He will need to fear people and their actions towards him for a long time.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Lucius on October 12, 2024, 03:31:04 PM
~snip~
What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?


First of all, it should be said that Peter Todd voluntarily participated in the documentary and that he clearly stated that he was not Satoshi, which is quite logical since no relevant evidence was presented there. The whole story is based on insinuations that come from a post on BTT, and something that PT wrote on a chat, which can be interpreted as being the one who destroyed Satoshi coins.

PT is certainly one of the candidates to be Satoshi for several reasons - the first is that already at the age of 15 he contacted a man named Adam Back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back) and was interested in his "invention" which, among other things, is listed as a reference in the BTC white paper, and is the only one which is directly mentioned in the text of the same document.

PT also showed for me personally that he was not very comfortable when the author confronted him with the "evidence", and I was left with the impression that he was hiding something, or better said, that he was not telling the truth.

My opinion is that a lot of people know a lot more than they want to admit, but it is obvious that they are protecting themselves or someone else.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Freemind on October 13, 2024, 11:36:54 AM
I think HBO has behaved very irresponsibly. And I don't say this just to present a documentary based on smoke, which we already knew was not going to clarify absolutely anything about Satoshi's true identity, but for the fact of pointing out someone (Peter Todd) as the real Satoshi, when he was been involved in Bitcoin since 2010. That HBO wants to sell more subscriptions to its platform seems normal to me considering that it is its business, but that they could endanger someone seems irresponsible and disrespectful to those affected.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Lucius on October 13, 2024, 02:42:08 PM
@Freemind, I would not blame only the author and the production, because everyone participating in the documentary, including Peter Todd, did so voluntarily, and it is possible that they were paid for their time. Therefore, the responsibility lies with everyone who participated - although I don't see this whole story as an exclusive attempt to identify Satoshi, it's an ordinary story about Bitcoin with a touch of the search for Satoshi.

I don't believe that anyone from that documentary feels threatened or that they will have problems in life because of what they said - in fact, it is even ridiculous to assume that someone is Satoshi based on the "evidence" presented in that documentary.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: oneandzero on October 14, 2024, 11:31:48 AM
This was expected, there was very little evidence to suggest he was.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: terrific on October 21, 2024, 02:43:56 AM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

He has no chance of winning a dime, just as Dorian Nakamoto back in the day!
Since they've made some documentary about himself and then putting his life into danger like the viewers will think that he's got a million BTC. Intruders and bad actors could go to him and try to torture him even if he doesn't have him. So, in return he can do this thing in protection of his life and not just about the name that they've dragged out of this revealing documentary that they've made. He might have no chance but for publicity could do some good on his side.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamotop
Post by: robelneo on October 24, 2024, 10:11:01 PM
I hope that Peter will sue whoever are behind that documentary. They're putting his life into jeopardy just because of that hype that they're making through his name.

He has no chance of winning a dime, just as Dorian Nakamoto back in the day!
Since they've made some documentary about himself and then putting his life into danger like the viewers will think that he's got a million BTC. Intruders and bad actors could go to him and try to torture him even if he doesn't have him. So, in return he can do this thing in protection of his life and not just about the name that they've dragged out of this revealing documentary that they've made. He might have no chance but for publicity could do some good on his side.

The documentary has no solid evidence to prove that he is, although many will think that he is, if ever he is threatened because of this documentary, he can always sue them for dragging his name and endangering him and his family.
And I guess the world is so used to tracking and pointing out who Satoshi is; we all know we even had a guy who claims to be Satoshi, and no harm was done to him until now.
Right now the report of Wired that he is hiding were exaggerated based on Peter's words, people are going to circulate false story about him, jus to sustain the story line.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/10/23/peter-todd-bitcoin-developer-named-as-satoshi-nakamoto-in-hbo-documentary-goes-into-hiding/
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Faisal2202 on October 26, 2024, 06:58:51 PM
I have not yet watched this HBO documentary but on the surface of things it looks like the people behind this piece are just desperate to whom they can point their fingers as to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, if Peter Todd who has vehemently denied already that he is the one, can then move the wallets ascribed to Satoshi then he can surely be the one.

What do you think on Peter Todd being the Satoshi Nakamoto the whole cryptocurrency industry has been looking for? Is he  a very good candidate or just one of the many proposed over the years?
I don't think he is the real satoshi as he has also shared that he is not the real Satoshi Nakamoto and some podcasters has pointed that he used the same pattern in his posts he made on BTT that Satoshi followed means he can be him but he is not as he is totally a different person being active in the crypto market for a long time and AFAIK he was the moderator of bitcoin reddit too.

If Satoshi doesn't want to come in front of the public then we can't make anyone him and there are some crazy dudes like Craig making big efforts to prove themselves the owner of BTC doesn't know what he would get if he would have won the case.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Z-tight on October 26, 2024, 07:28:55 PM
This was expected, there was very little evidence to suggest he was.
Yeah, they knew they had no evidence and they only wanted to promote their service and get more people to subscribe to it, they don't know who Satoshi is, nobody knows who Satoshi is. The better people stop looking for who Satoshi is, the better, we simply have to leave the mystery unresolved.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 26, 2025, 02:01:21 PM
Peter Todd himself denied that he is Satoshi, so I don't think there is a possibility that he is Satoshi. The mysterious Satoshi identity will be the subject of intense debate as Bitcoin becomes more successful, and we may never know who Satoshi is, and there is a possibility that Satoshi is a group of developers, not just one developer. Anyone who wants to settle the debate simply has to sign a message from one of the addresses used by Satoshi.

As the identity of the Satoshi  Nakamoto continue trend at some points, I think that it may be very difficult for many crypto enthusiast to asscept anyone that comes out as the real Satoshi Nakamoto because it has remained a hidden identity a long that, that many may not believe whoever that surface now as the true Satoshi.
You see,  many people had claimed to be Satoshi but they have no convincing evidence before the crypto community as the real Satoshi Nakamoto, unfortunately, having taken to long to know the true identity of Satoshi, many may not accept anyone that appears now as the real Satoshi.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: NotATether on January 26, 2025, 08:28:39 PM
Peter Todd himself denied that he is Satoshi, so I don't think there is a possibility that he is Satoshi. The mysterious Satoshi identity will be the subject of intense debate as Bitcoin becomes more successful, and we may never know who Satoshi is, and there is a possibility that Satoshi is a group of developers, not just one developer. Anyone who wants to settle the debate simply has to sign a message from one of the addresses used by Satoshi.

As the identity of the Satoshi  Nakamoto continue trend at some points, I think that it may be very difficult for many crypto enthusiast to asscept anyone that comes out as the real Satoshi Nakamoto because it has remained a hidden identity a long that, that many may not believe whoever that surface now as the true Satoshi.
You see,  many people had claimed to be Satoshi but they have no convincing evidence before the crypto community as the real Satoshi Nakamoto, unfortunately, having taken to long to know the true identity of Satoshi, many may not accept anyone that appears now as the real Satoshi.

Peter Todd is probably greatful right now that thieves and robbers haven't harassed him. Considering all the other high-profile extortion happening in recent days and weeks. I bet he thought for sure that a fucking streaming service of all things calling him Satoshi woukd put a target on his back. But he turned out to be OK.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 27, 2025, 05:07:25 AM
Peter Todd is probably greatful right now that thieves and robbers haven't harassed him.
you do not know that i would bet a lot that he has already been a victim of harassment from numerous people not only from robbers or scammers but also from journalists and reporters
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Considering all the other high-profile extortion happening in recent days and weeks. I bet he thought for sure that a fucking streaming service of all things calling him Satoshi woukd put a target on his back. But he turned out to be OK.
thankfully no one seemed to have cause himn serious trouble because we have never heard of it maybe because a lot of people in the community did not believe that streaming platform anyway or maybe some did not even watch the documentary at all
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Bobcrypto on February 05, 2025, 03:05:07 PM
This was expected, there was very little evidence to suggest he was.
Yeah, they knew they had no evidence and they only wanted to promote their service and get more people to subscribe to it, they don't know who Satoshi is, nobody knows who Satoshi is. The better people stop looking for who Satoshi is, the better, we simply have to leave the mystery unresolved.

I have come to realize that many of the claimed to be the Satoshi Nakamoto were actually for personal gains and to draw people attention into their projects or business platforms.
These guys that willfully claimed Satoshi were driven by greed, and because the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is unknown, these people wants to assumed the name at all cost to control the crypto community, and like i said, for their personal gains.
obviously, those who are still determined to claim Satoshi will definitely fail because they don't have a clear evidence to defend their claims.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: bayu7adi on February 06, 2025, 05:21:46 AM
Peter Todd himself denied that he is Satoshi, so I don't think there is a possibility that he is Satoshi. The mysterious Satoshi identity will be the subject of intense debate as Bitcoin becomes more successful, and we may never know who Satoshi is, and there is a possibility that Satoshi is a group of developers, not just one developer. Anyone who wants to settle the debate simply has to sign a message from one of the addresses used by Satoshi.
Even the real Satoshi Nakamoto would definitely deny that he is Satoshi Nakamoto in public... so, when Todd denies that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, it makes us a little distrustful and think that he is lying.. human psychology about lies always moves in the opposite direction...

In the context of cryptocurrency, anyone who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, it is actually doubtful and we immediately think that he is a fake Satoshi... while the real Satoshi will deny his identity and does not want many people to believe that he is the real Satoshi....

So, there is also a possibility that Todd is the real Satoshi... but there is no guarantee that he is the real Satoshi.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Z-tight on February 07, 2025, 10:13:13 PM
So, there is also a possibility that Todd is the real Satoshi... but there is no guarantee that he is the real Satoshi.
That is why people should let it be, if Satoshi's identity has not been known till date, that is enough indication that we would probably never get to know who Satoshi is. Hopefully we never do, Satoshi went away for a very good reason and we ought to respect his wish and leave it that way.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Baofeng on February 13, 2025, 12:27:03 AM
So, there is also a possibility that Todd is the real Satoshi... but there is no guarantee that he is the real Satoshi.
That is why people should let it be, if Satoshi's identity has not been known till date, that is enough indication that we would probably never get to know who Satoshi is. Hopefully we never do, Satoshi went away for a very good reason and we ought to respect his wish and leave it that way.

Yes, as much as we want to fine out who Satoshi is, I think it's better to rest the case because it's better that way. There could be implications if he surfaces and that's why it's better for him or they or whatever the pronouns will be.

And the market is just fine without finding out who the real Satoshi.

So why not keep it that way? And let the secret goes down as one of the most enigmatic personality in the last century.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Freemind on February 20, 2025, 08:36:06 PM
Yes, as much as we want to fine out who Satoshi is, I think it's better to rest the case because it's better that way. There could be implications if he surfaces and that's why it's better for him or they or whatever the pronouns will be.

And the market is just fine without finding out who the real Satoshi.

So why not keep it that way? And let the secret goes down as one of the most enigmatic personality in the last century.

As I said in another post, it is better that Satoshi's identity never be made public, it would be a danger to him (or her, them) and possibly their families. Besides something as obvious as that, I think Satoshi gave us the best gift he could give us, his ideas and dreams. Let Satoshi live his life however he wants. The hundreds of headlines we can read, and all the documentaries we can watch, are nothing more than simple speculations trying to get our attention. Nobody knows who Satoshi is and that's how it should remain, unless Satoshi one day decided otherwise and wanted to make his identity public, although I doubt that will happen.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Bobcrypto on February 21, 2025, 09:34:21 AM
It look like the issue of Satoshi Nakamoto identity will generate more discussions in the future, and when there seems a slow down of talks about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity, there are still people out there pointing their arrows to some high profile persons as the Satoshi Nakamoto.

Read here for more details:  https://crypto.news/jack-dorsey-is-satoshi-nakamoto-matthew-sigel-of-vaneck-claims/

I think the identity of the Bitcoin founder should not be an issue, but there are people who just busy for nothing. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto may be more harmful to the progress of crypto community than good in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Baofeng on February 21, 2025, 09:43:57 AM
It look like the issue of Satoshi Nakamoto identity will generate more discussions in the future, and when there seems a slow down of talks about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity, there are still people out there pointing their arrows to some high profile persons as the Satoshi Nakamoto.

Read here for more details:  https://crypto.news/jack-dorsey-is-satoshi-nakamoto-matthew-sigel-of-vaneck-claims/

I think the identity of the Bitcoin founder should not be an issue, but there are people who just busy for nothing. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto may be more harmful to the progress of crypto community than good in my opinion.

I think Bitcoin enthusiast already accepted the fact that Satoshi's identify will not be going to be revealed to us. Although there is a break through in one of the most enigmatic case in history, Jack the Ripper, https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/world-news/jack-the-rippers-identity-revealed-after-dna-breakthrough-historian/

Nevertheless we can't compare it to Satoshi as we don't have the DNA and only digital footprints, but those are even hard to break as Satoshi was really smart to cover his trail up to this point.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: robelneo on February 21, 2025, 02:20:10 PM

I think the identity of the Bitcoin founder should not be an issue, but there are people who just busy for nothing. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto may be more harmful to the progress of crypto community than good in my opinion.
It keeps on popping up. There were times it were the hot discussions, but after so many false news stories about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, people got enough; those impostors couldn't prove that they were the real Nakamoto, its just that some people want to become instant celebrities by falsely claiming they are Nakamoto, but they will eventually get exposed because of false narratives and being unable to move the real Nakamoto's wallet.
Title: Re: Peter Todd: Sorry but I am not Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: KincaidT on February 27, 2025, 06:25:40 AM

I think the identity of the Bitcoin founder should not be an issue, but there are people who just busy for nothing. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto may be more harmful to the progress of crypto community than good in my opinion.
It keeps on popping up. There were times it were the hot discussions, but after so many false news stories about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, people got enough; those impostors couldn't prove that they were the real Nakamoto, its just that some people want to become instant celebrities by falsely claiming they are Nakamoto, but they will eventually get exposed because of false narratives and being unable to move the real Nakamoto's wallet.

Satoshi staying anonymous is probably the best thing for bitcoin. If their identity were revealed, it could cause distractions, legal issues, or even risks for that person. Bitcoin was built to stand on its own and it is doing just that. Instead of chasing a name, we should focus on how bitcoin is changing the world. In the end, Satoshi's real legacy is the technology not their identity.